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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by ballydankkf: 2:41pm On Jun 20, 2022
Take your car to any of the computerized vehicle inspection centre in your state if at all there is one there, am sure they will detect the actual fault
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Innobee99(m): 3:01pm On Jun 20, 2022
mine85:


Sorry, its 1999 - 2000 toyota camry, tiny light.
Exactly what am passing through right now.



Have changed my rings and metals twice and after like 3-6 months, the damage is done again. Managing it till a get money to get a better engine.

It's so painful Sir. Getting a new engine now will cost not less than 250k I guess. Am in same situation. My engine oil get shorten within short period
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by DallasMike77: 4:05pm On Jun 20, 2022
you engine is going gradually
you need to replace your ring ASAP.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by greatefa1011(m): 4:30pm On Jun 20, 2022
Two things cab ne responsible.
1. Sensors
2. Nursles
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by stacyadams: 5:12pm On Jun 20, 2022
mine85:


3500



My mechanic is calling fifteen K,saying he will bring down gear and it's a day job...abi my own case is different
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 5:29pm On Jun 20, 2022
stacyadams:




My mechanic is calling fifteen K,saying he will bring down gear and it's a day job...abi my own case is different

It is definitely different. Maybe i don't understand oil seal u mean. You know that place they pour engine oil, where they fix 4 plugs, that's the place he loose ..the entire top and there is a rubber seal there. We bought d seal 2500, gum 700,
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 5:30pm On Jun 20, 2022
DallasMike77:
you engine is going gradually
you need to replace your ring ASAP.

It doesn't last... I heard max. 6 months.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 5:33pm On Jun 20, 2022
kennosman:
Once happened to me, very important information, most of the oil we use are not the proper recommended Oil for our car engine, this really affects the Engine,was recently a learned Guy told me to Check what is written on the cover of our Engine, the figure written there is the recommended Oil to use, not knowing that all the while i have been using a cheap oil of #10,500 (Mobil super 1000 20w 50) instead of ( Mobil 1 #30,500 5w 20 ).
The difference is clear Nah, not knowing i was Killn My Engine.

My engine cover don't have this number... I think its not follow come engine
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by cp3o: 5:57pm On Jun 20, 2022
Dozieson:


Rings are going. May need new engine or change rings
Basically, just use oil treatment until you have money for a rebuild. New rings, gasket, metal, oil pump, and you should be alright.

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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by akpunda86: 7:15pm On Jun 20, 2022
mine85:


My hydraulic was shorting, the mechanic opened the servo and saw that all the hydraulic was entering the servo. So he opened a small outlet and the hydraulic poured out, he rinsed with water and pour out again. Though, i doubt if everything poured out, it will remain small Sha.

Since then, my hydraulic cup is still full unlike before where it dries up with 3 days. Thus, if we emptied the servo, how is it dropping on the exhaust?

Well, ita after they worked on that hydraulic container and servo cleaning that I observed this smoking... You may have a strong point. I will go to another mechanic to check the work they did on the servo and hydraulic container engine (they went to service it or so)


The white smoke is from d hydraulic fluid pouring on ur exhaust.check d servo well who serviced it no do it well for u,problem with ur servo is from Ur brake upper master cylinder it is bad or called slave..
Thank me later
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by akpunda86: 7:19pm On Jun 20, 2022
cp3o:

Basically, just use oil treatment until you have money for a rebuild. New rings, gasket, metal, oil pump, and you should be alright.

Bro it got noting to do with rings nor oil pumps,when the Oli pressure is it shows level low,gasket rings no overheating ,noting like oil treatment,sorry I'm advicing u but I'm an Electro Mechanical Engineer,I work cars and cooling systems,cheers
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by ayolayo0405(m): 8:26pm On Jun 20, 2022
I can guarantee you, it's the rings... there are gaps in the rings allowing oil to bypass causing the engine to smoke and short oil but if you use our product, it will seal off all the gaps in the rings

Kindly check my signature, this is what I sell


mine85:
If i drive for a 5mins or more, white or light blue smoke will suddenly come out and within 2 mins, it will stop. Sometimes, when i accelerate, the smoke will come out much, other times, it won't. Still yet, it smokes sometimes even i don't accelerate at all.

Comparatively, most times, it doesn't smoke. But when it does, it comes out quite much and stops gradually. But when i start the car, it doesn't bring smoke.

What could be the fault.? Your advice needed to also guide me with all these mechanics.

Car. Is 2.2 camry

Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Iamolukorede(m): 10:12pm On Jun 20, 2022
This doesn't need too much questions and answers, the thing is to enjoy that car foe as long as you can use, be getting ready to buy a new engine or sell the car fast.

I jus sold a car with a similar problem in fact at a cheaper price, it engine is getting weak and ringed more than once, don't mind those mechanics, they know your engine is getting bad but won't tell you the truth so that they can keep milking you for money.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Iamolukorede(m): 10:24pm On Jun 20, 2022
Innobee99:
Exactly what am passing through right now.



Have changed my rings and metals twice and after like 3-6 months, the damage is done again. Managing it till a get money to get a better engine.

It's so painful Sir. Getting a new engine now will cost not less than 250k I guess. Am in same situation. My engine oil get shorten within short period

The truth is that, it is better he buys a new engine rather than trying to ring it and also pad the gaskets and the rest, I ringed my car 4 different times, while my mechanic was milking me on a regular saying it will return to normality when all that is done which turned to be a fat lie.

In fact, the smoke at a time became annoying to me, until last year that I bought a new engine then boom � I'm doing zoom zoom at ease on a good day.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 10:53pm On Jun 20, 2022
Iamolukorede:


The truth is that, it is better he buys a new engine rather than trying to ring it and also pad the gaskets and the rest, I ringed my car 4 different times, while my mechanic was milking me on a regular saying it will return to normality when all that is done which turned to be a fat lie.

In fact, the smoke at a time became annoying to me, until last year that I bought a new engine then boom � I'm doing zoom zoom at ease on a good day.

I also heard if you put new engine, the gear may fail if weak already or the new engine may over power it
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 10:54pm On Jun 20, 2022
Iamolukorede:
This doesn't need too much questions and answers, the thing is to enjoy that car foe as long as you can use, be getting ready to buy a new engine or sell the car fast.

I jus sold a car with a similar problem in fact at a cheaper price, it engine is getting weak and ringed more than once, don't mind those mechanics, they know your engine is getting bad but won't tell you the truth so that they can keep milking you for money.

How much can i sell mine... Camry 2.2
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 10:57pm On Jun 20, 2022
cp3o:

Basically, just use oil treatment until you have money for a rebuild. New rings, gasket, metal, oil pump, and you should be alright.

Does it last? If ringed. I keep hearing only for 6 months. How can one get original rings.?
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Innobee99(m): 6:05am On Jun 21, 2022
Iamolukorede:


The truth is that, it is better he buys a new engine rather than trying to ring it and also pad the gaskets and the rest, I ringed my car 4 different times, while my mechanic was milking me on a regular saying it will return to normality when all that is done which turned to be a fat lie.

In fact, the smoke at a time became annoying to me, until last year that I bought a new engine then boom � I'm doing zoom zoom at ease on a good day.
That's just the best option u too Sir. Have also done mine like 4 different times and after a while it's still the same.
And the whole money wasted would have been able to get me a new Engine.
I regret my actions cuz right now I can't afford a new engine now.
Just managing till I can afford it.
Thanks fo ur input

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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 9:25am On Jun 21, 2022
pentsystems:
Scan your car and do some google research with your result .. you can get these bluetooth scanner from Jiji. https:///ilupeju/car-parts-and-accessories/vgate-icar2-bluetooth-obd2-scanner-6gx7Q93OFieDqfIR8AdoQrnW.html?page=1&pos=2&cur_pos=2&ads_per_page=2&ads_count=2&lid=iLD-8-fZH5iRKnrL. It goes for 10k and download car scanner on Google play store you can scan your car for free .. then you can Google the result and learn more about the problem before going to the mechanic to fix it with the direction you learnt online .. but from my experience if the smoke is whitish then it is a leaking coolant to your exhaust .. if it is blueish in colour then your injectors are failing and your car is pumping much fuel than required into the cylinder so you need to change all your injector , if it is blackish smoke then your piston rings are bad you need to get a good mechanic to replace that for you .. just get the scanner and scan it first then paste the result first.. I am not a mechanic but I like buying cars with engine problems and low mileage then fix it by using mechanic and my scanner to resale for a good price

. I am putting up for sale. 500k
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Iamolukorede(m): 12:23pm On Jun 21, 2022
mine85:


How much can i sell mine... Camry 2.2

You can place an advert on the car or if lucky you can get an end user who can buy the car from you but in that condition be ready to negotiate reasonably with the buyer and you might be lucky.

However, your best best is to sell it fast to avoid story that touches, infact if you settle to buy a new engine, calculate the cost for a new engine and workmanship and other side fix you understand what I mean.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 7:21pm On Jun 21, 2022
Iamolukorede:


You can place an advert on the car or if lucky you can get an end user who can buy the car from you but in that condition be ready to negotiate reasonably with the buyer and you might be lucky.

However, your best best is to sell it fast to avoid story that touches, infact if you settle to buy a new engine, calculate the cost for a new engine and workmanship and other side fix you understand what I mean.

I checked on jiji, most tiny light are 900k and to 1.2m Nigerian used... And there is no guarantee d engine is perfect.

I am thus considering to ring it if eventually it is the cause and use till December, save money and put in 600k to buy engine and gear, then paint the car. I think i will be more sure that its good.

I have spent over 200k fixing shaft, bearing, rack.. Not knowing engine may be bad.

I hope 500k will give me engine and gearbox anyway.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by adubam(m): 1:01pm On Jun 22, 2022
Innobee99:
Exactly what am passing through right now.



Have changed my rings and metals twice and after like 3-6 months, the damage is done again. Managing it till a get money to get a better engine.

It's so painful Sir. Getting a new engine now will cost not less than 250k I guess. Am in same situation. My engine oil get shorten within short period

NEW Engine for 250k or used engine?
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by seangy4konji: 1:56pm On Jun 22, 2022
Rings needs replacement.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Innobee99(m): 5:35pm On Jun 22, 2022
adubam:


NEW Engine for 250k or used engine?
Used Engine should be within that range I guess oooo.




But try and make ur own inquiry too whatever u outcome is, pls do share with me too. Thank you
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by adubam(m): 5:55pm On Jun 22, 2022
Innobee99:
Used Engine should be within that range I guess oooo.




But try and make ur own inquiry too whatever u outcome is, pls do share with me too. Thank you

210k a guy gave me on Nairaland
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by adanny01(m): 7:14pm On Jun 22, 2022
mine85:
If i drive for a 5mins or more, white or light blue smoke will suddenly come out and within 2 mins, it will stop. Sometimes, when i accelerate, the smoke will come out much, other times, it won't. Still yet, it smokes sometimes even i don't accelerate at all.

Comparatively, most times, it doesn't smoke. But when it does, it comes out quite much and stops gradually. But when i start the car, it doesn't bring smoke.

What could be the fault.? Your advice needed to also guide me with all these mechanics.

Car. Is 2.2 camry

I had exactly the same symptoms but was fixed recently.

The culprit is valve stem seals. The smoking mostly happens after long engine idle or high rev. It has to do with high vacuum causing more oil to pass through worn out valve stem seals. The longer the idle the bigger the smoke. These seals are just N500 but to replace it is a nightmare.

To fix, there are 2 ways, the traditional kazeem way or the YouTube way which most Kazeems will not accept to do.

The traditional way involves removing the entire cylinder head and valves.

The YouTube way is actually very simpler but mechanics find it very stressful. I called it the YouTube method because that's where I saw it done and all the mechanics I contacted for the method refused. Except my young experimental mechanic who always agrees to my instructions just to learn new tricks I always teach him. I attempted DIY but one M10 bolt I rounded defeated me.

The method involves removing the timing belt/chain, camshaft and valve spring. This gives you access essentially but it's still complicated. Removing valve springs will cause the valve to fall into the cylinder bore, to prevent that, a nylon rope is passed through the sparkplug hole while that piston is at bottom dead center. The rope must fill the cylinder bore and then engine rotated to compress the rope and prevent the valves from moving. In this case, only 1 cylinder can be worked on at a time so this is cumbersome for the mechanic. Anyways, I did it successfully and my car stopped smoking.

The essence of doing this is to avoid removing the head cylinder since mine is still factory fitted. I have seen many engines die after head cylinder removal job and I didn't want the risk of creating a new problem if head is removed. If your cylinder head has been removed before, don't sweat it, just go traditional.

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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 7:19pm On Jun 22, 2022
adanny01:


I had exactly the same symptoms but was fixed recently.

The culprit is valve stem seals. The smoking mostly happens after long engine idle or high rev. It has to do with high vacuum causing more oil to pass through worn out valve stem seals. The longer the idle the bigger the smoke. These seals are just N500 but to replace it is a nightmare.

To fix, there are 2 ways, the traditional kazeem way or the YouTube way which most Kazeems will not accept to do.

The traditional way involves removing the entire cylinder head and valves.

The YouTube way is actually very simpler but mechanics find it very stressful. I called it the YouTube method because that's where I saw it done and all the mechanics I contacted for the method refused. Except my young experimental mechanic who always agrees to my instructions just to learn new tricks I always teach him. I attempted DIY but one M10 bolt I rounded defeated me.

The method involves removing the timing belt/chain, camshaft and valve spring. This gives you access essentially but it's still complicated. Removing valve springs will cause the valve to fall into the cylinder bore, to prevent that, a nylon rope is passed through the sparkplug hole while that piston is at bottom dead center. The rope must fill the cylinder bore and then engine rotated to compress the rope and prevent the valves from moving. In this case, only 1 cylinder can be worked on at a time so this is cumbersome for the mechanic. Anyways, I did it successfully and my car stopped smoking.

The essence of doing this is to avoid removing the head cylinder since mine is still factory fitted. I have seen many engines die after head cylinder removal job and I didn't want the risk of creating a new problem if head is removed. If your cylinder head has been removed before, don't sweat it, just go traditional.

Hmmm, you seem to have the idea. Mine happens only when i accelerate. All these plenty idea u gave now is useful. But I want to sell the car. I don tire, as a first time user, its frustrating already. If the person that will buy it will have ur idea, it will go a long way. Na buyer i de find now


I have gone to mechanic today, told him about PCV, injector, coolant, hydraulic dropping on exhaust, he checked all and told me, na rings.

I didn't know of this valve stem seals... I will ask him again sha, while i look for buyer of the car.
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by Innobee99(m): 8:00pm On Jun 22, 2022
adubam:


210k a guy gave me on Nairaland
That's great am working towards that too. I'll try and get mine soon by God's Grace

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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by adanny01(m): 9:30pm On Jun 22, 2022
mine85:


Hmmm, you seem to have the idea. Mine happens only when i accelerate. All these plenty idea u gave now is useful. But I want to sell the car. I don tire, as a first time user, its frustrating already. If the person that will buy it will have ur idea, it will go a long way. Na buyer i de find now


I have gone to mechanic today, told him about PCV, injector, coolant, hydraulic dropping on exhaust, he checked all and told me, na rings.

I didn't know of this valve stem seals... I will ask him again sha, while i look for buyer of the car.

Don't look further, I am certain. I researched well and was convinced of the symptoms before I also searched for the solution. The part is not more than 1k.

If it was rings, it will smoke in the morning and will never stop.

If it's PCV, it will not smoke heavy.

Only valve seals smoke heavily on acceleration or revving the car at stand still and then stop smoking. Other smoking types don't stop but valve seal stops. It causes shortening of oil like the rings and PCV. Also you will have random misfire (jacking) and loss of power when it smokes.

The symptoms is exactly like mine. Selling is your choice, however, you will never know what you will buy. Be careful not to jump from frying pan to fire.

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Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 10:12pm On Jun 22, 2022
adanny01:


Don't look further, I am certain. I researched well and was convinced of the symptoms before I also searched for the solution. The part is not more than 1k.

If it was rings, it will smoke in the morning and will never stop.

If it's PCV, it will not smoke heavy.

Where is your location, in case u are nearby, i can give to that your young mechanic to fix mine

Only valve seals smoke heavily on acceleration or revving the car at stand still and then stop smoking. Other smoking types don't stop but valve seal stops. It causes shortening of oil like the rings and PCV. Also you will have random misfire (jacking) and loss of power when it smokes.

The symptoms is exactly like mine. Selling is your choice, however, you will never know what you will buy. Be careful not to jump from frying pan to fire.

You are correct, random misfire, sometimes the car jerks. Also, loss of power when it smokes.. The car shakes or jerks if i put it on after its idle for 24 hrs plus.

If i mention Valve stem seal... Will every mechanic understand it or they have another name. Like when i called PCV today, they didn't know d name.

Why I am considering selling because the car is accidented and the mechanic told me it will give problem in future too. (my friend bought d car 8 months ago, didn't know it was accidented.

Where is ur location, i am in owerri. In case u are nearby, we can arrange for ur young mechanic to come fix it
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by mine85(m): 10:51pm On Jun 22, 2022
mine85:


You are correct, random misfire, sometimes the car jerks. Also, loss of power when it smokes.. The car shakes or jerks if i put it on after its idle for 24 hrs plus.

If i mention Valve stem seal... Will every mechanic understand it or they have another name. Like when i called PCV today, they didn't know d name.

Why I am considering selling because the car is accidented and the mechanic told me it will give problem in future too. (my friend bought d car 8 months ago, didn't know it was accidented.

Where is ur location, i am in owerri. In case u are nearby, we can arrange for ur young mechanic to come fix it

Addendum.

I have been browsing about the valve seal.... Symptoms, it says when the car is idle for a long time, u start it, that smoke will come out and stop, my own doesn't do that...

I used d car 4pm on Monday and used again by Wednesday 8am...that's over 24hrs parked, it doesn't smoke at start and does its smoke at acceleration or occasionally without acceleration
Re: Car Smoking Occasionally by adanny01(m): 1:17pm On Jun 23, 2022
mine85:


You are correct, random misfire, sometimes the car jerks. Also, loss of power when it smokes.. The car shakes or jerks if i put it on after its idle for 24 hrs plus.

If i mention Valve stem seal... Will every mechanic understand it or they have another name. Like when i called PCV today, they didn't know d name.

Why I am considering selling because the car is accidented and the mechanic told me it will give problem in future too. (my friend bought d car 8 months ago, didn't know it was accidented.

Where is ur location, i am in owerri. In case u are nearby, we can arrange for ur young mechanic to come fix it

They call it valve seal. I am in the north.

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