Svlla:


I will like both of us to talk about military might of the 2 nations since you seem to know alot about the US military

If you're ready for the conversation just reply

ivandragon:
Hmm...

As much as NATO needs to prepare for the Russian Bear, it also needs to keep an Eagle eye out for the Chinese...

BritishNaija:


You talk like the Kid you are.
US beat Russia both in Air, Sea and Land. How can a Military force be so Stupid to create a long 45miles long Military Convoy? They are lucky US is not Well equipped, Sadam tried that during golf war, and we know how roasted all those hardware turned to.

At the bold, everytime you bring hypersonic bullshit As if the bold will even have effect if US confront Russia in a conventional war.

US has No business to put boot on the ground in Ukraine. Let russia mistakenly attack a NATO member, then you do know What US is capable of.

When it comes to military tech, US is miles ahead of Russia, Russia still Depends on Soviet craps to fight, and Lets i forget, the chips used for Russia military electronics are deigned and built by the West. Do not let ignorant blind your sense of reasoning.

Svlla:


The chips used are designed by the West, like for real. You're very ignorant to make such claim

Is it the same US military that fled Afghanistan with tail tucked between legs that you compare to Russian military that is consolidating its holdings in Ukraine while taking more

US simply cannot have boots on ground in Ukraine because Russia is the not because of some simplistic notion about NATO. Is Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq Nato before US intervened.....was Lybia NATO.

YES hypersonic missiles scare the shit out of US because it puts their missile defence in question and they recognize the threat that's why they are racing to develop theirs

If US is so advanced in military tech then they should boast the best military hardware but disappointingly they do not

BritishNaija:


Lets start in What way? Lets go with Airforce first, the gap and superiority of America Airforce to Russia Airforce is so wide, America beat them in All departments,In what way?

Technology, airframes, avionics, stealth? America hands down.

America has sustained development of TWO fifth generation airframes, and Russia is just now catching up. So the edge goes to America

Budget, training, procurement, industrial base? America hands down. It’s not even close.

Beside US Navy Airforce is bigger than Russia Airforce, Not to talklessabout USAirforce.

Russia has No SEAD or DEAD mission/unit in their Airforce, Reason they find it Very in eliminating Ukraine Airdefence systems.

When you Fight with America, America Airforce of now will do a SEAD and DEAD attacks on you, and you will bw left with nothing as They Rule your sky.


If Russia was able to eliminate Ukraine Air defence, this War would have been over since.

Russia have No Wild Weasle Aircraft to fool enemy Air defence to fire and reveal their locations, and get other aircraft to destroy it.
If i continue going on What Russia Airforce lack, I will not finish writing, so their Airforce is A baby Bird when you compare that with US Airforce.

Should we proceed to Navy?

BritishNaija:


Mr man counter the claims I wrote above, a lot of you on this forum are not exposed, you not knowing the west designed the chips used by Russia on it miliatry electronic shows the Level you are at.

Counter the claims above,Then we move to Navy. No wonder someone on twitter said those on NL are dummues,do not be part of them, counter the points above then we can have another discussion.

Svlla:


Taking about sead and dead and America ruling your skies and where have you seen this happen

American Airforce that Shot over 100 missiles and yet the Syrian military was able to eliminate about 80% of this aerial threat using Buk M1 and Pantsir

American Airforce is shit. Syria shot down American F16 with Pantsir S1

The so called stealth of America's most modern 5th generation Air superiority fighters have been proven by analysts and military expert to be vulnerable to Russian S400 no wonder Turkey went for S400 and abandoned all plan for F35.
Even after US offered to purchase the s400 from Turkey in exchange for F35 (wow, what a lucrative deal but no thank you) the Turks refused to handover their Russian made S400 Air defence system

If Ukraine war is to prove anything, it is the air superiority of Russian Air defence systems. The Pantsir, BukM1, Buk M2 and Tor M has shot down every piece of flying object in Ukraine. Wonder what the S400 will do?

Russian radar just detected US F35 (so called stealth) patrolling near Ukrainian border and around the black sea ahead of NATO summit just barely 24hours ago....the flight path was even charted.

So much for stealth

Have you wondered why the West refused to send aircrafts to Ukraine while they have the famed B2, B22, F22, F16, F35 and so on

While so they opt to send borrowed NASAM instead of Patriots Pac3 to Ukraine. It will be another round of failure just like in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel

BTW...Russia has enough Hypersonic missiles of mach6+ (Iskander) Mach 8 (Tsirkon) Mach 12+ (Khinzal) to turn the entire US nave to a bunch of scrap metals.

NB: there's no US missiles defence that can stop this missiles yet if you think there is any then show me and prove me wrong

BritishNaija:


Mr man you have No defence and Thank you for proving me right. Counter how Russia Airforce is Stronger than AmericaAirforce you are here blab crying.

You don't know What is SEAD OR DEAD, If not you would have knew it was used againt Iraq in Gulf War.

Go and use google to know the full meaning or brush your exposure a little bit, Do dummify your brains with ignorance. HAVE A BLISSFUL DAY.

Svlla:


You made a very bold claim about Russian depending on the West for chips

Until you show me evidence i won't take you serious

Even the West get most of their chips from China and Taiwan but then you're oblivious of this fact

Don't be a dummy.....a little digging and small research will help cure your ignorance

BTW we are the ones on Twitter claiming nairalanders are dummies and you just proved it

Svlla:


Who's arguing with you about strongest Airforce

I said what I said and that is US and the whole west can't go to war with Russia

Russia beat them hands down in missile technology

For everything US hardware Russia has a countermeasure but US has no countermeasure for Russian hardwares

you can continue to throw tantrums and use your insults to cloud your ignorance but it doesn't change the fact that you need proper education of military hardwares and weapon systems

BritishNaija:


Who designed those chips? Don't be ignorant. IPhone is produced in China does not mean China designed it. Do you even know Why and reasons company produces in china? Ignorance is Bliss.

BritishNaija:


Mr, You have Zero knowledge about Country Military capability. Russia Military is shitty to that of US, Take it or leave it.

Svlla:


Then prove it

Show us evidence or atleast counter my claims

You have a very rare opportunity here because am engaging a dummy like you to prove your stupidity....pls don't disappoint

BritishNaija:


You are ignorant and dummy, if not,you should know that chips manufactured in China are done using US technology and patent. Why did you think Huawai fell out from top 5 on mobile phones if China is that Good Im chips?

A lot of you Kids just come to argue without knowing background facts. The chips use by Russia are of west patent and designed, US blocked all companies Manufacturing chips with US technology and so from supplying to Russia, I Hope you got schooled a little.

Svlla:


Do you know how dumb you sound now

Always shifing goal post

So in your vain attempt to discredit Russia and attribute its success in making modern, advance, next generation weapons you claimed that they depend on the West for their chips


After bursting your lies now you're claiming American patent in Chinese chip making

Continue running around naked but don't end up in the market place

It's no longer Russia depend on West it's now America patent

If China and Taiwan had been in the West you might have made sense

BritishNaija:



You still sounding Dumb the more, is IPhone own by China? Russia Depends on chips designed by US for it major electronics in weaponry, How else do I educate you Mr hypersonic missiles?

Svlla:
@BritishNaija In other news
Russia just completed test for Belgorod Submarine that will be a launch platform for Posaidon Tornadoes

Earlier, the West anticipated that Belgorod will only be ready by 2027-2030 giving them enough time to develop a countermeasure for the Russia Posidon nuclear powered, nuclear capable tornado, the most powerful and most deadly Tornado in the world

For the sake of your education I will recommend you read further on Poseidon Tornado and why it's giving the West sleepless night

Svlla:


You are even more dumb than I thought

Is it only Iphone that uses chip

You're yet to prove your claims
1. That Russia depends on the West for chips

You're yet to counter this claim
1. That most world chips are produced in China and Taiwan.....a staggering 90% of world chips used in all known electronics

BritishNaija:



Mr you lack education, worse is that when you are being educated you keep showing silly ignorance. I used IPhone As an example.

I won't be the one to try to educated a brain that don't or have refused to acquire knowledge.

Chips Russia uses for their weapons especially smart are west designed, and patent.

Just like Turkish drone uses Canadian cameras.

You don't know nothing,But you keep arguing blindly.

BritishNaija:


Some of you can cap Nonesense. Without Nuke, Russis has No strenght to match US in conventional warefare, talkless of NATO.

Svlla:


You keep saying what you can't prove

You're a pathetic liar

Even your lamestream media couldn't help you with anything to back your claim??

BritishNaija:


Russia can build submarine the way they care, it can never be matched with US sub and techs.

How is Russia Aircraft carrier doing my friend? A smoky target, that is to show you how bad they are and lag in technology.

tamdun:

Same goes for US, without nuke, US is weak, was it not same US in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Japan etc?

Svlla:


Russia and US are on par when it comes to Submarine with a difference of ±2
And I can prove it to you

What US don't have is the Kind of Russian armament

BTW....China beats US in number of modern submarine and sophistication

You see one of the problems you have, Russia is in par with US in submarine and China? Since when did US submarine capabilities that are Well classified released in public space?

You are not yet out from one hole you are already in, and you are digging another hole Inside thesame hole hoping that you will dig out, you will end up sinking below.

There are a lot of things i know that i purposely withheld, waiting for you to climbout before firing from all cylinders

Everything I say to you is in public space, I don't go about throwing insult

BritishNaija:


See, when i type things, i type What Im Sure of, I don't do your usual propaganda. Before I further answer or show you anything more, Go and counter that Airforce claim.
I don't jump from one argument to another, let that be known

BritishNaija:



You still sounding Dumb the more, is IPhone own by China? Russia Depends on chips designed by US for it major electronics in weaponry, How else do I educate you Mr hypersonic missiles?

Svlla:


If you can't prove what you said then you're not a smart person I must say.

What Airforce claim. Mr mahn i beat you in this game. Your claim about US having 2 5th generation airframe and Russia having just Su57 is lame. Because Russia has What US will not have in the next 10 years
1. Russia has 5 known hypersonic systems both ballistic and cruise that can carry both conventional and nuclear warhead, US is decade behind China
2. Russian has a working hypersonic glyde vehicle US is no where to be found. None, even in development
3. Russia has Ballistic missiles (ICBM) RS28 that has the longest range and can fly across poles neglecting magnetic field effect and can change course mid flight
US has nothing of these nature and is still in awe at Russia
4. Russia has the best air defence systems in the world s500 known to take out hypersonic missiles (US don't have) s400 that can take out aeroballistic threats and the 5th generation US fighters. US best airdefence is still compared with Russian s300 in defence forums
4. Russia has the world only Nuclear powered tornadoe capable of lying in wait anywhere in the world sea bed and can strike any city in the world without range limit. US is still trying to wrap its head around it after initially calling it bluff
5. Russia still has the world only nuclear powered cruise missile. The collective West does not understand this weapon

So you see, instead of being always stupid with you pedantic approach to learning you should be more open minded especially when discussing with people that are many times more informed than you

Like I said earlier, everything in west arsenal has a Russian countermeasure

but the West doesn't have anything close to Russia new strategic weapons or an analogous to them and even the West that you're now playing herald to have admitted this claims

Your stupid ass needs some serous spanking and your coconut head need some serious knocking

The east is responsible for Over 90% of chips in the world

I will be coming with prove but before then I await your prove of Russia depending on the West for chips

Prove it or your ignorance is forever incurable

Svlla:


Typical

We're talking chips and your talking Iphone

You think this conversation is about tiktok and Instagram abi

Svlla:


Oh, you think US submarine is classified and not in public space but you don't think Russia and China submarine is also classified?

That's the problem I have with you pro west

See your smelly hypocrisy

Well, we are dealing with what is in the public space as neither of us are Pentagon or Kremlin Chiefs or minister of defence of either nations

So let's stick to what is in the public domain

Dumbo

BritishNaija:


I hate blabbing. Does Russia have a Railgun? There many weapons in US Arsenal that Russia don't have, and i don't want to even go on talking about it.

Hypersonic missiles Which US have already successful tested can never be the weapon to Win a war. What matters a lot is Airpower, Which US beats Russia hands down in all departments.

I'm not going to go Into F22 Which is a beyond visual Air superiority fighter and No Russia figter can match both in techs. Or the F35.

You see, you can be denying the facts like you want, even Russia pilots know whose the Boss is.

Your are not knowledgeable than the persons/communities that labels US Military the strongest in the would.
You type is the type that argues that Nigeria is the strongest Military in Africa.