₦airaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: RegisterLoginWith GoogleTrendingRecentNew

Stats: 3,329,154 members, 8,439,070 topics. Date: Saturday, 04 July 2026 at 01:50 PM

Toggle theme

Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves - Christianity Etc (11) - Nairaland

Nairaland ForumNairaland GeneralChristianity EtcKillings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves (48258 Views)

1 2 3 ... 8 9 10 11 12 13 Reply (Go Down)

Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 5:12pm On Jul 03, 2022
am4truth:
He is a Pastor and not a business man. I repeat you lack home training and I'm sure your parents must have disowned you.

He goat.
He is a business man who pretends to know God's Truth. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by ObosiUkwalla: 5:12pm On Jul 03, 2022
am4truth:
He is a Pastor and not a business man. I repeat you lack home training and I'm sure your parents must have disowned you.

He goat.
Clown, sheeples being deceived by pastorpreneurs. Olodo radarada
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by am4truth(m): 5:25pm On Jul 03, 2022
ObosiUkwalla:
Clown, sheeples being deceived by pastorpreneurs. Olodo radarada
OK.. I leave you to your fate. You have chosen the path to follow, good luck to you. But I must say that you lack home training, this is obvious for all to see. Insulting someone of 80 years old.
Spit...
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by treatise: 5:25pm On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good
Who will read your scriptures when you and your household are eliminated? I listened to him, he said "use the jaw of a cow just the way Samson used the jaw of a donkey"
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 5:28pm On Jul 03, 2022
treatise:
Who will read your scriptures when you and your household are eliminated? I listened to him, he said "use the jaw of a cow just the way Samson used the jaw of a donkey"
Did Jesus Christ call you or anyone to doing as Samson did? undecided

As one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you are not called according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, God's Constitution given to the people of Israel- those born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - as the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it makes no sense of any kind to try to model your life after even David, or Samson, in any way or form. undecided

Instead you are called according to God's New Covenant Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God and are so expected to live your life in submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14. undecided

Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom? undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by lifestyletv: 5:32pm On Jul 03, 2022
DSS is Enroute to your house, you better escape and never come to Nigeria again.
AfonjaNaBastard:
Any Christian who wants to acquire AK 47 rifle or 6 Rounds Automatic Revolver for protection, should contact me.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Lighthouse50: 5:33pm On Jul 03, 2022
treatise:
Who will read your scriptures when you and your household are eliminated? I listened to him, he said "use the jaw of a cow just the way Samson used the jaw of a donkey"
Which is preferable whether for you to use the jaw of a cow to kill one and i apply the tactics of king hezekiah by kneeling down to pray and from night to morning 185,000 to be slayed by angels?
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by abidem4real: 5:34pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Are you being intentionally ignorant or what? undecided
Is that an answer to my question? I said show me where the Bible says no one should defend himself or herself against an attack from his or her enemy.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by treatise: 5:35pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ call you or anyone to doing as Samson did? undecided

As one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you are not called according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, God's Constitution given to the people of Israel- those born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - as the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it makes no sense of any kind to try to model your life after even David, or Samson, in any way or form. undecided

Instead you are called according to God's New Covenant Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God and are so expected to live your life in submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14. undecided

Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom? undecided
We should discard the old testament? I know God is same yesterday, today and forever. Jehoshephat as well as other leaders of old were supported/strengthened by God to execute wars successfully against the children that were against Israelites or God himself.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by treatise: 5:37pm On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Which is preferable whether for you to use the jaw of a cow to kill one and i apply the tactics of king hezekiah by kneeling down to pray and from night to morning 185,000 to be slayed by angels?
Whether Jonah swallowed fish or fish swallowed Jonah there's SWALLOW. You've just used the word SLAIN
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Femi8586(m): 5:41pm On Jul 03, 2022
Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.
God gave you a brain for a reason. Utilize it. If the people of Isreal had this your kind of mentality, Isreal would have become history by now.

Continue to sit down there and be forming over spiritual(I too Sabi) while your enemies continue slitting your throats. If you don't defend yourself, you will be killed and if you have any sin, you will still go to hell. Your killer may repent and make heaven later.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 5:45pm On Jul 03, 2022
treatise:
1. We should discard the old testament?

2. I know God is same yesterday, today and forever. Jehoshephat as well as other leaders of old were supported/strengthened by God to execute wars successfully against the children that were against Israelites or God himself.
Discard Old testament? Where did you read that in all I typed up there?? undecided

2. God is indeed the same God who never included you, a Gentile, in His Covenant with the children of Israel forever. He never called you to obeying those laws or living as those who He called under that Law do. undecided

Again, As one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you are not called according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, God's Constitution given to the people of Israel- those born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - as the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it makes no sense of any kind to try to model your life after even David, or Jehoshephat, in any way or form. undecided

Instead you are called according to God's New Covenant Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God and are so expected to live your life in submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 5:47pm On Jul 03, 2022
abidem4real:
Is that an answer to my question? I said show me where the Bible says no one should defend himself or herself against an attack from his or her enemy.
I already die that one page one... Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36. undecided

Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom? undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by salem1996: 5:50pm On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good
And yet it says, sell your cloak and buy a sword, it also says one should pray and watch, it also says Jesus whip people in the temple and not just pray they leave
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 5:53pm On Jul 03, 2022
salem1996:
And yet it says, sell your cloak and buy a sword, it also says one should pray and watch, it also says Jesus whip people in the temple and not just pray they leave
Never lift a verse of scripture out-of-context! undecided

Read the entire passage of Luke 22 vs 36 - 53 to under what Jesus Christ meant and why He meant it instead. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by TAYO124: 6:00pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom? undecided
You better relocate NOW to Sokoto/Zamfara, go and sacrifice yourself for nothing.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by GoodIsGod: 6:00pm On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the last time i read the bible, the messiah had eradicated eye for an eye mosaic law
The Bible never says don't defend yourself.
He who kills by the sword must die by the sword.

If a killer is coming to your house and your saw him first. If it's Cutlass or pestle that you find use it against him before he gets to you.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by loooozeem: 6:03pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kingozymandias:
I have been saying this for long . If Muslims come to kill you butcher them all and burn their bodies . No mercy. If someone comes to take your life take theirs in defense .

Muslims don't act against those who kill us so time to start killing them back
Muslim and christian war. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Let's the killing begin.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:03pm On Jul 03, 2022
TAYO124:
You better relocate NOW to Sokoto/Zamfara, go and sacrifice yourself for nothing.
In Matthew 10 vs 23, Jesus Christ instead said to His followers,"when they persecute you in this city, flee to another city". undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by orisa37: 6:05pm On Jul 03, 2022
GOOD.
BEAR ARMS WITH PRAYERS. THAT'S GOD'S INSTRUCTION.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Jul 03, 2022
GoodIsGod:
1. The Bible never says don't defend yourself.
He who kills by the sword must die by the sword.

2. If a killer is coming to your house and your saw him first. If it's Cutlass or pestle that you find use it against him before he gets to you.
1. Jesus Christ Himself told you not to defend yourself if you are one of His followers in Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 and Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 undecided

2. Jesus Christ said, "if you are persecuted in one city,flee to another city" - Matthew 10 vs 23 undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by GoodIsGod: 6:07pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Not only did Jesus Christ make it clear that it is of sin to defend yourself as His follower from an attacker ... undecided
.... He also said it is of sin to pray against an enemy using His name. undecided
Similar teachings are found written of in Luke 6 vs 27 - 38 undecided
The hypocrisy of your sect is second to none.
As if I meet you on the road and nack your big head with a stick without doing me any evil you won't fight back.

Shior.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by TAYO124: 6:07pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
In Matthew 10 vs 23, Jesus Christ instead said to His followers,"when they persecute you in this city, flee to another city". undecided
Okay where will you go? Are you an evangelist sent on a particular mission like Paul or the disciples when Jesus sent them to Jews in diaspora?
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by orisa37: 6:09pm On Jul 03, 2022
GOOD.
BEAR ARMS WITH PRAYERS. THAT'S GOD'S INSTRUCTION.
GOD WILL RAISE SOLDIERS, POWER AND MIGHT FROM STONES AROUND YOU.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:10pm On Jul 03, 2022
GoodIsGod:
The hypocrisy of your sect is second to none.
As if I meet you on the road and nack your big head with a stick without doing me any evil you won't fight back. Shior
Wouldn't it be foolishness to fight back when attacked by a lunatic? Isn't it better to run away and instead call the authorities to get the lunatic off the streets instead? undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:11pm On Jul 03, 2022
TAYO124:
1. Okay where will you go?

2. Are you an evangelist sent on a particular mission like Paul or the disciples when Jesus sent them to Jews in diaspora?
1. If God is the one who leads you, He will let you know where to go next and how to escape to it.

2.Those of them who could flee did, while of them who couldn't died. That's just what happened. When it is time for you to go, it is your time. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by orisa37: 6:17pm On Jul 03, 2022
GOD EMPOWERED DAVID'S CATAPULT TO KILL "GOLAIATH", THE PHILISTINE.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by TAYO124: 6:23pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. If God is the one who leads you, He will let you know where to go next and how to escape to it.

2.Those of them who could flee did, while of them who couldn't died. That's just what happened. When it is time for you to go, it is your time. undecided
The bible is balanced, by it’s wisdom “there is a time &season for everything under heaven. When time for war arrives pick up your weapons and do a battle to survive.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jul 03, 2022
TAYO124:
The bible is balanced, by it’s wisdom “there is a time &season for everything under heaven. When time for war arrives pick up your weapons and do a battle to survive.
Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What that means is that all those who love Him obey His every teachings(and commandments) - John 14 vs 15 - 25 - His friends are those who do as He asks - John 15 vs 14. undecided

Jesus Christ didn't send any of His followers to fight any battles in His name, nor did He ask them to carry weapons in His name. He clearly commanded them to instead resist all urged to defend themselves and to flee to another city when persecuted is the one. undecided

So do you follow the Gospel or do you follow your own ideas pretending they are endorsed by Jesus Christ even when they obviously don't, you decide. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by TAYO124: 6:31pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What that means is that all those who love Him obey His every teachings(and commandments) - John 14 vs 15 - 25 - His friends are those who do as He asks - John 15 vs 14. undecided

Jesus Christ didn't send any of His followers to fight any battles in His name, nor did He ask them to carry weapons in His name. He clearly commanded them to instead resist all urged to defend themselves and to flee to another city when persecuted is the one. undecided
What doctrine do you subscribe to, you are like an unrealistic Pacifist.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kobojunkie: 6:32pm On Jul 03, 2022
TAYO124:
What doctrine do you subscribe to, you are like an unrealistic Pacifist.
I subscribe to the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant and Truth, the Gospel of the Kingdom of God which I am a citizen of. undecided
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by oscarlamba: 6:38pm On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
As one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you are not called according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, God's Constitution given to the people of Israel- those born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - as the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it makes no sense of any kind to try to model your life after even David in any way or form. undecided

Instead you are called according to God's New Covenant Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God and are so expected to live your life in submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14. undecided

Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom? undecided
wow thanks alot
1 2 3 ... 8 9 10 11 12 13 Reply

How Should Christians/believers Defend Themselves From Attack And Violence?Pastor Adeboye Asks His "Son" To Sack His SecretaryNkechi Bianze: COZA Agent Offered Me Money To Defend Pastor Biodun234

Jesus Statue Survives Typhoon Haiyan's Destruction In The Philippines (PHOTO)Ifeanyi Ogbonna - World Youngest BishopSleeping In A Room Where A Dead Body Was Buried.