₦airaland Forum

Natbrowny:
Nannies and Baby sitters nko.

They work based on time
No b naija wey house girl go dey stay with you to dey use anyhow

Nannies are used by a minority out here whereas babysitters are used when needed..

Nigerians have house helps because they can afford to hire them and pay peanuts, the industry is not monitored and well regulated, so even as child labor is a crime, many poor families are willing to give up their children as house maids for financial rewards or to ease their burden

If it were cheap to hire nannies in the US, many mothers will consider doing that as opposed to being full time housewives, having baby sitters or taking children to the daycare.

Childcare center - you pay for it.
You can hire ( agencies or through connections,
church members etc) someone to come watch your child at specific time and you pay.

If going to work, you use child care center.

Husband and wife work together for a successful child care experience.

JovialJune:
Op people are telling you they have nannies/babysitters over there, yet you're insisting on being ignorant, what is wrong with you

Not ready to accept what does not align with his own thinking.

Kobojunkie:
Nannies are used by a minority out here whereas babysitters are used when needed..

Please tell them. Many of them typing with speed and authority whereas they don't know the country.

My question is: How do Americans take care of children 0-14 months old, on a day to day basis. (There are 330m Americans in the US, at least 90m families). How? The Chinese as well? Can Nigerians explain?

Do all them have nannies, baby sitters? From what time to which time daily? All of them? To what extent could Nigeria copy that. Bc upon all, America remains the most productive nation with $76,000 per capita.

We must stop Nigerians from seizing people's 12y olds. Children must leave with their parents till at least 18y. Not where some seemingly good looking person will be making the child sleep on kitchen floor. They profit nothing by staying with you. They were feeding and schooling before they came to your place.

Not all Nigerian families use help, I and my husband raised all our three children by our selves,my eldest is 9+, the second 6+ and my last 3 years old we also work, we put them in creche and I pick them up after work, he helps with the house chores too. In the morning while I get them up and prepare them for school, he helps around in the kitchen. When I return from work I clean the house and prepare dinner and also the break fast against the next day. Also my neighbors don't have helps too, two has their own business while the other work from home.

JovialJune:
Op people are telling you they have nannies/babysitters over there, yet you're insisting on being ignorant, what is wrong with you

The people saying that are being truthful. Majority of Americans do not have Nannies and babysitters are still used in many homes on occasion, not a regular basis.

This article from 2009 paints a clear picture of why many American families even considered nannies, ans also estimates that only about 4% of families in the country then had nannies.

But most of these workers are not nannies; instead, they work in traditional day care centers. Airane Hegewisch, a scholar in residence with the Institution for Women's Policy Research, said that less than 4 percent of families in the United States have a nanny.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=4982205&page=1

Nannies are primarily used in cases where the man and woman work outside of the home and are generally not used in families where one parent is unemployed or a stay-at-home. This is in stark contrast with the Nigerian situation where even the poor and underemployed/employed feel they are entitled to having nannies/househelps .

NigerianAngelo:
I mean, you see many videos of parents taking care of their own kids. It's not like they have some kid our adult to help them out. Most times that's the case and it's true. And they live ok. Just a few may have day time nannies. But Nigerians can't do without somebody's daughter.

Americans have washing machine,
dishwasher,
microwave,
lawn mower,
air conditioner,
rice cooker,
pressure cooker,
Blender
iron,
ironing board,
vacuum cleaner,
electric kettle
non stick pots
deep freezer
Refrigerator
SUVs
Iphones
4 bedroom duplexes




WHAT DO YOU Nigerian husbands get for your wives?

Saintmary:
Americans have washing machine,
dishwasher,
microwave,
lawn mower,
air conditioner,
rice cooker,
pressure cooker,
Blender
iron,
ironing board,
vacuum cleaner,
electric kettle
non stick pots
deep freezer
Refrigerator
SUVs
Iphones
4 bedroom duplexes
WHAT DO YOU Nigerian husbands get for your wives?

Long before all of those were even invented, American women raised their kids without help from third-parties.

Kobojunkie:
The people saying that are being truthful. Majority of Americans do not have Nannies and babysitters are still used in many homes on occasion, not a regular basis.

This article from 2009 paints a clear picture of why many American families even considered nannies, ans also estimates that only about 4% of families in the country then had nannies.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=4982205&page=1

Nannies are primarily used in cases where the man and woman work outside of the home and are generally not used in families where one parent is unemployed or a stay-at-home. This is in stark contrast with the Nigerian situation where even the poor and underemployed/employed feel they are entitled to having nannies/househelps .

Do they have babysitters/nannies or not yes or no?

JovialJune:
Do they have babysitters/nannies or not yes or no?

A better question in this case would be how many families in the USA utilize nannies/babysitters on a daily basis.

Kobojunkie:
A better question in this case would be how many families in the USA utilize nannies/babysitters on a daily basis.

Maybe you should direct your question to op that thinks they don't use babysitters and nannies at all

JovialJune:
Maybe you should direct your question to op that thinks they don't use babysitters and nannies at all

I believe you instead misunderstand the OP in this. Americans aren't know for using nannies/babysitters in the same way Nigerians use househelps, is what OP is attempting to get you to realize.

As of 2009, even with about 50% of women working, only about 4% of those homes utilized nannies aka househelps, is what that ABC article I posted earlier explained. Compare that to Nigeria where even the poor have full-time/live in househelps, and you find you cannot compare both cases at all in this.

Ask your Nigerian friends living abroad with children how many times each week they call in babysitters, and the answer you will get from at least 10 wil sort of give you an idea of how even babysitters can't compare to your househelps.

Kobojunkie:
I believe you instead misunderstand the OP in this. Americans aren't know for using nannies/babysitters in the same way Nigerians use househelps, is what OP is attempting to get you to realize.

As of 2009, even with about 50% of women working, only about 4% of those homes utilized nannies aka househelps, is what that ABC article I posted earlier explained. Compare that to Nigeria where even the poor have full-time/live in househelps, and you find you cannot compare both cases at all in this.

Ask your Nigerian friends living abroad with children how many times each week they call in babysitters, and the answer you will get from at least 10 wil sort of give you an idea of how even babysitters can't compare to your househelps.

Kobo, you know say I no like to dey argue with you, I dey always avoid you like plague, so abeg leave me, na comment I comment I no kee person, abeg

Kobojunkie:
Long before all of those were even invented, American women raised their kids mostly without help of third parties.

They don't pound yam.

They eat sandwiches, and salad.




We could continue arguing this all week and I won't run out of content.

Saintmary:
They don't pound yam. They eat sandwiches, and salad.

We could continue arguing this all week and I won't run out of content.

Who send Africans dey pound yam abeg? Why we never invent yam pounda or even automatic fufu-making machine to ease our stress?

The wheat wey dem take make the bread, no be grind dem dey grind am before them invent machines dey do am for them instead?

We can argue but there is no reason at all for what we continue do to ourselves in Africa abeg.

cococandy:
Engage your spouse in child raising.
Use Nannies and babysitters.
And don’t work everyday of the week.
That’s the only way I’m surviving.

Even then, It’s still tough.

I know someone close who is raising three boys all under 10 years of age with no nanny or babysitters to help. She has her own business so she works from home a lot of the times. With summer here and kids all hone, she takes advantage of help afforded by relatives which goes a long way. No one wants to pay for babysitters and childcare serviced all year around. Many of my neighbors are the same way. They all keep most of it within the family and it all seems to work out fine..

Children are responsibilities so nothing easy about that burden which is to be expected of course.

Right. When family is available, it’s the best. I remember when I had my mom and mother in law respectively come stay and help me with kids. Goes a long way and you trust them more because you know them.

But when they are not available, you end up having to do division of labor and also paying nannie’s/babysitters. It’s expensive. Sigh but wetin person wan do?

Kobojunkie:
I know someone close who is raising three boys all under 10 years of age with no nanny or babysitters to help. She has her own business so she works from home a lot of the times. With summer here and kids all hone, she takes advantage of help afforded by relatives which goes a long way. No one wants to pay for babysitters and childcare serviced all year around. Many of my neighbors are the same way. They all keep most of it within the family and it all seems to work out fine..

Children are responsibilities so nothing easy about that burden which is to be expected of course.

Beremx:
it’s because their parents don’t want to show the face of the nanny. Beyonce and all other celebrities do not move around with their nannies. Nannies are at home taking care of the kids

Beyonce and your other celebrities are not a mirror of the average American family abeg.

Octobertwentysix:
Not all Nigerian families use help, I and my husband raised all our three children by our selves,my eldest is 9+, the second 6+ and my last 3 years old we also work, we put them in creche and I pick them up after work, he helps with the house chores too. In the morning while I get them up and prepare them for school, he helps around in the kitchen. When I return from work I clean the house and prepare dinner and also the break fast against the next day. Also my neighbors don't have helps too, two has their own business while the other work from home.

I grew up in Nigeria during the 80s and 90s and about 50% of the families in my area had househelps, and there were homes with at most one working family member. And I am not talking of the rich of well-off.

NigerianAngelo:
Lalasticlala

They cooperate with their partners nothing like, I am a man and I can't do this or that

They have few kids

Their husbands are always ready to help and assist in running the home despite they work too

They run their duty on shifts, so wife can be on morning duty and husband can be on night duty

They don't over struggle because their government has made life meaningful and provides what they will suffer for

Here in our own path, you must struggle for everything just to survive and live

Their men loves their wives and doesn't subject them to domestic torture and their law also protects their women

Here, men don't support women unless you fight for it as a wife, before they will realise that a mother needs help

I have a friend that her husband wakes up to prepare the children for school while their mum prepares their lunch pack

Weekends the man stays home to help himself and do domestic work

From the wife incomes they were able to buy land and build

They never hard a Nanny and the man doesn't go to bar and that doesn't mean he doesn't drink

Once he closes from work he goes to pick the children from school and straight to house

This is what I call cooperation

Kobojunkie:
Who send Africans dey pound yam abeg? Why we never invent yam pounda or even automatic fufu-making machine to ease our stress?

The wheat wey dem take make the bread, no be grind dem dey grind am before them invent machines dey do am for them instead?

We can argue but there is no reason at all for what we continue do to ourselves in Africa abeg.

Babe, the point of my concern is Nigerian men, they will rather have their wives go the tougher route than buy gadgets that will make things easier at home.



Imagine a grown man refusing to allow his wife use the washing machine because he thinks it will make her lazy!



By the way, yam pounder has already been invented now.

frozen70:
They cooperate with their partners nothing like, I am a man and I can't do this or that

They have few kids

Their husbands are always ready to help and assist in running the home despite they work too

They run their duty on shifts, so wife can be on morning duty and husband can be on night duty

They don't over struggle because their government has made life meaningful and provides what they will suffer for

Here in our own path, you must struggle for everything just to survive and live

Their men loves their wives and doesn't subject them to domestic torture and their law also protects their women

Here, men don't support women unless you fight for it as a wife, before they will realise that a mother needs help

I have a friend that her husband wakes up to prepare the children for school while their mum prepares their lunch pack

Weekends the man stays home to help himself and do domestic work

From the wife incomes they were able to buy land and build

They never hard a Nanny and the man doesn't go to bar and that doesn't mean he doesn't drink

Once he closes from work he goes to pick the children from school and straight to house

This is what I call cooperation

That's a type of husband girls should be looking out for.



Lucky woman.

Saintmary:
That's a type of husband girls should be looking out for.



Lucky woman.

That's exactly what they are looking for but men in this category are rare

Kobojunkie:
I grew up in Nigeria during the 80s and 90s and about 50% of the families in my area had househelps, and there were homes with at most one working family member. And I am not talking of the rich of well-off. :-

That was then, now most people don't use house helps again, especially here in warri, a lot of them are scared of witchcraft, the few people around me that have helps are mainly members of their extended families. My younger sister in PH has a help but she's a grown lady who they pay salary it's like a job she comes in the morning and close in the evening. What most people do now is to pay someone who comes and wash, clean twice or three times a week and they pay them at the end of the month.

frozen70:
They cooperate with their partners nothing like, I am a man and I can't do this or that

They have few kids

Their husbands are always ready to help and assist in running the home despite they work too

They run their duty on shifts, so wife can be on morning duty and husband can be on night duty

They don't over struggle because their government has made life meaningful and provides what they will suffer for

Here in our own path, you must struggle for everything just to survive and live

Their men loves their wives and doesn't subject them to domestic torture and their law also protects their women

Here, men don't support women unless you fight for it as a wife, before they will realise that a mother needs help

I have a friend that her husband wakes up to prepare the children for school while their mum prepares their lunch pack

Weekends the man stays home to help himself and do domestic work

From the wife incomes they were able to buy land and build

They never hard a Nanny and the man doesn't go to bar and that doesn't mean he doesn't drink

Once he closes from work he goes to pick the children from school and straight to house

This is what I call cooperation

Ok

Octobertwentysix:
That was then, now most people don't use house helps again, especially here in warri, a lot of them are scared of witchcraft, the few people around me that have helps are mainly members of their extended families.

My younger sister in PH has a help but she's a grown lady who they pay salary it's like a job she comes in the morning and close in the evening. What most people do now is to pay someone who comes and wash, clean twice or three times a week and they pay them at the end of the month.

That's in fact not a truth you offer at all. As of today, almost all of my former high-school class mates - over 80% of them - living in Nigeria, and I am talking of from at least the 2 secondary schools which I attended, all claim to have househelps. Majority of the househelps are distant cousins from the village or recommended by a friend or someone.

Your " what most people do" theory does not even begin to sound like Nigeria I know of even today in 2022.

Saintmary:
1. Babe, the point of my concern is Nigerian men, they will rather have their wives go the tougher route than buy gadgets that will make things easier at home.

2. Imagine a grown man refusing to allow his wife use the washing machine because he thinks it will make her lazy!

By the way, yam pounder has already been invented now.

1. Women here weren't sit-at-home dundee. They had a hand in many of those inventions , so let's not keep cutting our folks unnecessary slacks abeg.

2. Why did the woman herself marry such an imbe_cile?

3. It already exists now? Ok, so why did you say that women where still pounding yam?,

Techstar:
In America, the government give mothers monthly allowance for babies up to a certain age, so they can afford to raise their kids while they work from home or do a less demanding job. In Nigeria, that is a rich oil producing country, you have to hustle to eat. Although, if the Nigerian government decides to pay mothers, some guys will take it as a new business.

Which America abeg?

Techstar:
In America, the government give mothers monthly allowance for babies up to a certain age, so they can afford to raise their kids while they work from home or do a less demanding job. In Nigeria, that is a rich oil producing country, you have to hustle to eat. Although, if the Nigerian government decides to pay mothers, some guys will take it as a new business.

Who de lie give una like this? People I know don’t get such. My European friends may though. Depends on the country. But not the American ones. Or you people just sit down and throw assumptions on people so you can start fighting them for non existent money. My experience visiting America is that you pay for everything. Nothing is free at all.

Kobojunkie:
That's in fact not a truth you offer at all. As of today, almost all of my former high-school class mates - over 80% of them - living in Nigeria, and I am talking of from at least the 2 secondary schools which I attended, all claim to have househelps. Majority of the househelps are distant cousins from the village or recommended by a friend or someone.

Your " what most people do" theory does not even begin to sound like Nigeria I know of even today in 2022.

Ok ooo, no need to argue with you, but the fact remains that I don't have a house help neither do my two neighbors and I have been doing just fine, my first daughter who's 9+ is already washing plates and can also sweep and arrange their room, my second is also learning fast, infact am looking forward to my retirement from house chores in the nearest future.