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Wilgrea7:
The issue i have with this “7 prophets saying the same thing is"

Hostkene:
And why did different pastors from different places told him same thing

2 pastors in Enugu, 1 in Kenya and 1 in nsukka...

This thread is hilarious. The story keeps taking twists and turns as you shoot from the hip but try to keep it together. 2+1+1 = 4, so we are missing 3 prophets and their locations. Or is it 4 pastors and 7 prophets telling him he will be stashotbbed to death?

In short, the moral of the story is “prophets can see” but so can dogs.

Hostkene:
And why did different pastors from different places told him same thing
2 pastors in Enugu, 1 in Kenya and 1 in nsukka...

Why different pastors giving him the same warning And why did it later come to pass exactly the way they said

What solution/warning did the pastors give the boy?

KnownUnknown:
This thread is hilarious. The story keeps taking twists and turns as you shoot from the hip but try to keep it together. 2+1+1 = 4, so we are missing 3 prophets and their locations.

In short, the moral of the story is “prophets can see” but so can dogs.

This thread is not for psychiatric patients. If you have nothing to contribute or finding it difficult to read properly, then take the next door.

Hostkene:
He came from a Christian family who believes in just "prayers"

We lived in nsukka when they first told him this... But this happened in Awka, Anambra state

I understand.

People that are Christian (especially pentecostal) will feel trying out other solutions is devilish but it isn't so.

Things like Reiki healing, spell casting, White magic are safe. Some pastors even use it but won't want to tell people so as not to chase away customers.

Hostkene:
Why was his death lead by a friend who invited cultists Why did what the propehts said come to pass

What you are asking me is akin to asking me how come you can throw stones into a market, and get at least one hit on even a low-traffic day. I don't know.

Kobojunkie:
You are really stretching this one aren't you.

So, this boy did not die each and every time before until an ex-girlfriend of his made the decision to hire a gang to assassinate him, is that what you believe the prophets wanted to tell you?

Now I believe you must VERY dumb.

Your family must be from the mud, where you don't believe in prophecies.

From now, you can reply and post to yourself. I refuse to stoop this low. Thanks.

Kobojunkie:
What you are asking me is akin to asking me how come you can throw stones into a market, and get at least one hit on even a low-traffic day. I don't know.

After getting same prophecy from different pastors. The boy is dead now, yet you are Still speaking like a kid who still sucks breast.

If a soutsayer says you are destined to be rich man, then you'd just invest one business and boom immediately?? Without failing at all..

You must be seriously dumb and ignorant.

Go live your life, when different pastors tells you that the same thing was going to happen to you. Then take it as a joke and watch.

Thanks for your contribution. Think I'm done with you. I need smart people only.

SHALOM!

Hostkene:
Can prophets really see your destiny?

oaroloye:
[color=silver].[/color] 1^st SAMUEL 9:1-10.

NOW there was a man of Benjamin,
whose name was Kish,
the son of Abiel,
the son of Zeror,
the son of Bechorath,
the son of Aphiah,
a Benjamite,
a mighty man of power.
2. And he had a son,
whose name was Saul,
a choice young man,
and a goodly:
and there was not
among the Children of Israel
a goodlier person than he:
from his shoulders and upward
he was higher than any of the people.
3. And the asses of Kish Saul's father
were lost.
And Kish said to Saul his son,

"Take now one of the servants
with thee,
and arise,
go seek the asses."

4. And he passed through
mount Ephraim,
and passed through
the land of Shalisha,
but they found them not:
then they passed through
the land of Shalim,
and there they were not:
and he passed through
the land of the Benjamites,
but they found them not.
5. And when they were come to
the land of Zuph,
Saul said to his servant
that was with him,

"Come, and let us return;
lest my father leave caring
for the asses,
and take thought for us."

6. And he said unto him,

"Behold now,
there is in this city a Man of God,
and he is an honourable man;
all that he saith cometh surely to pass:
now let us go thither;
peradventure he can shew us our way
that we should go."

7. Then said Saul to his servant,

"But, behold,
if we go,
what shall we bring the Man?
For the bread is spent in our vessels,
and there is not a present
to bring to the Man of God:
what have we?"

8. And the servant
answered Saul again,
and said,

"Behold,
I have here at hand
the fourth part of a shekel of silver:
that will I give to the Man of God,
to tell us our way."

9. [Beforetime in Israel,
when a man went
to enquire of God,
thus he spake,

"COME,
AND LET US GO
TO THE SEER:"

for he that is now called a Prophet
was beforetime called a Seer.]

10. Then said Saul to his servant,

"Well said;
come, let us go."

So they went unto the city
where the Man of God was.

A QUARTER SHEKEL OF SILVER IS 2.75g.

At the current price of Silver being N320.64/g, that is N881.76.

THEY KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE WRONG TO CONFRONT A MAN OF GOD, EMPTYHANDED.

THEY KNEW THAT PROPHETS AND SEERS WERE RELIABLE SOURCES OF INFORMATION.

If you know what a "Prophet" is, from The Bible, it is the height of foolishness to question whether or not Prophets exist, and whether or not they have the capabilities described in Scripture.

Having established the fact that Prophets exist, one should then examine their capabilities.

Having listed their capabilities, one should then find out how they work.

Having found out how Prophetic abilities work, an intelligent person would set about working them themselves.

Hostkene:
Being told the same thing by different prophets clearly means that this or that is meant to happen...

THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS FOR A WORSHIPPER OF GOD IS TO CONSULT A PROPHET FOR ANYTHING!

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE BIBLE IS TO MAKE EVERY WORSHIPPER OF GOD BECOME A PROPHET!

[color=silver].[/color]    NUMBERS 11:24-29.

24. And Moses went out,
and told the people
the Words of The LORD,
and gathered
the seventy men
of the Elders of the people,
and set them round
about The Tabernacle.
25. And The LORD
came down in a Cloud,
and Spake unto him,
and took of the spirit
that was upon him,
and gave it unto
the seventy Elders:
and it came to pass,
that, when the spirit rested upon them,
they prophesied,
and did not cease.
26. But there remained
two of the men in the camp,
the name of the one was Eldad,
and the name of the other Medad:
and the spirit rested upon them;
and they were of them
that were written,
but went not out unto The Tabernacle:
and they prophesied in the camp.
27. And there ran a young man,
and told Moses, and said,

"Eldad and Medad
do prophesy in the camp."

28. And Joshua the son of Nun,
the servant of Moses,
one of his young men,
answered and said,

"My lord Moses,
forbid them."

29. And Moses said unto him,

"Enviest thou for my sake?
Would God that all
The LORD'S people were Prophets,
and that The LORD
would put His Spirit
upon them!"

[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 14:1-27.

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way,
The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh
unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known
my Father also:
and from henceforth
ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO
UNTO MY FATHER.'

13. "And whatsoever ye shall
ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father may be
Glorified in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask
any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.

21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself
unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send
in my Name,
He shall Teach you
all things,
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said
unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

THE OYINBOS ONLY WANTED THE BIBLE AS A TOOL OF COLONIALISM/IMPERIALISM- NOW THEY HAVE GUNS AND BOMBS, THEY NO LONGER WANT THE BIBLE.

However, there has been an unwanted development: THE THIRD WORLD HAS BEGUN TO UNLOCK THE TRUE POWER OF THE HOLY BIBLE.

WHY WOULD SOMEONE CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN, AND DISAGREE WITH THE WORDS OF GOD?

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

I DESPISE VAIN OYINBO THEOLOGY CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANITY- WHOSE AUTHORS HIDE WHICH HERETICAL PERSUASION THEY REPRESENT!

God has only ever wanted ONE THING:

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD Sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

[color=silver].[/color] 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

[color=silver].[/color]   AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

THE ONLY THING GOD HAS EVER WANTED FROM ALL OF HIS CREATION IS AGREEMENT.

Is that too much to ask?

IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, THEN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A PROPHET.

If you think you are a Christian, and yet you are not a Prophet, then you have been deceived.

oaroloye:
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are
The Commandments,
The Statutes,
and The Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them
in the land whither ye go
to possess It:
2. That thou mightest
fear The LORD thy God,
to keep all His Statutes
and His Commandments,
Which I Command thee,
thou, and thy son,
and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days
may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore,
O Israel,
and observe to do (It);
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may
increase mightily,
as the LORD God of thy fathers
hath promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee
this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

IT IS THE PLAN OF GOD THAT THE PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN HOW TO KNOW GOD, BY LOVING HIM TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THEIR SPIRITUAL, MENTAL, AND PHYSICAL RESOURCES.

God has no plan to help anyone who was not given this proper Home Training by parents. He never created any Office to take the part of legitimate father's and mothers.

oaroloye:
[color=silver].[/color] THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

THE FIRST PSYCHOLOGIST, BORIS SIDIS, OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY, USA, DETERMINED THAT EVEN THE ABOVE-AVERAGE HUMAN ADULT USES NO MORE THAN 10% OF THEIR MIND, CONSCIOUSLY: HE THEORIZED THAT APPROPRIATE TRAINING FROM INFANCY WOULD ENABLE ANYONE TO GROW UP WITH, AND RETAIN, 100% CONSCIOUSNESS THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES

He tested his theory on his own son, never treating him as a mental inferior, he and his wife included him in their conversations as a baby, as if he could understand them.

One of the results was that he was able to read THE NEW YORK TIMES Newspaper at the age of 2 years.

The Oyinbo academics claimed that it was impossible to restore 100% Consciousness in those older than "the formative period."

But an independent dropout researcher proved that 100% Consciousness could be restored to anyone of any age.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard (1950).
SELF ANALYSIS, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).
SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL: The Prediction of Human Behavior, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).
SCIENTOLOGY: The Fundamentals of Thought, by L. Ron Hubbard (1956).
THE PRODIGY: The Biography of WILLIAM JAMES SIDIS- America's Greatest Child Prodigy, by Amy Wallace (1986).
THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE, by Michael Talbot (1991).
THE EINSTEIN FACTOR: A Proven New Method for Increasing your Intelligence, by Win Wenger and Richard Poe (1995).
THE DELIBERATE DUMBING-DOWN OF AMERICA: A Chronological Paper-Trail, by Charlotte Iserbyt (1999).]

Hostkene:
Imagine being told by different prophets that this bad thing is gonna happen to you, and they cover it up by telling you to "pray" instead of telling you that it's your destiny.

WHY SHOULD A PROPHET KNOW MORE ABOUT YOUR FUTURE THAN YOU YOURSELF DO? WHY SHOULD A PROPHET WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW TO DO WHAT HE DOES, WHEN YOU ARE PAYING HIM TO KEEP YOU IGNORANT?

Many people are ingrates, and have no problem with letting a Prophet, who helped them, die in Poverty.

In my opinion, Prophet who opens you a stream of income should be rewarded with 10% of that income for the rest of your life.

But the teacher who taught you to be a Prophet, should receive 20% of whatever you earn through that ability, for life.

Christianity is weak and poverty-stricken, because of the stinginess of It's members- who all hate one another.

[color=silver].[/color] MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”

22. And Jesus Answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i

24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”

WHEN YOU HOLD BACK WHAT YOUR BRETHREN NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE, THAT IS HATE.

When you are ungrateful to one who has helped you out, that is hate.

oaroloye:
[color=silver].[/color] THE TEN TALENTS. (Matthew 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. ETERNAL LIFE.

[color=silver].[/color] THE TEN POUNDS. (Luke 19:11-27.)

1. THE ABOVE; 2. THE BELOW.
3. THE EARTH; 4. THE NETHER REALMS.
5. FIRE; 6. WATER.
7. THE MOVING; 8. THE STATIONARY.
9. THE LOUD; 10. THE SILENT.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).].

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 25:1-4.

IF there be
a controversy between men,
and they come unto judgment,
that the judges may judge them;
then they shall justify the Righteous,
and condemn the Wicked.
2. And it shall be, if the Wicked man
be worthy to be beaten,
that the judge shall cause him
to lie down,
and to be beaten before his face,
according to his fault,
by a certain number.
3. Forty stripes he may give him,
and not exceed:
lest, if he should exceed,
and beat him above these
with many stripes,
then thy Brother
should seem vile unto thee.
4. Thou shalt not muzzle the ox
when he treadeth out (the corn).

All Humans Exist on Eight Dynamic Levels in Forty Levels of Awareness:

[color=silver].[/color] THE EIGHT DYNAMICS.

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - i.e. PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7. SPIRITS; 8. GOD.

[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard (1956).]

[color=silver].[/color] THE FORTY AWARENESS LEVELS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION
8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS
4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATISM
2.5 BOREDOM
2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.

[color=silver].[/color] THE AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

[color=silver].[/color] SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12.

LIFE IS BASICALLY A STATIC.

Definition: a Life Static has no mass,
no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.
2. The Static is capable of Considerations,
Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects, Form,
and Time are the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static,
and are perceived solely because
the Static considers that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of
postulated particles
in Space.
6. Objects consist of
grouped particles and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate
that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is
the change of position of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe
is the Creation of an Effect.

11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN
CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE
ARE FOUR-FOLD.

(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence,
and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation
and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations
in that it does not contain survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the Consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.
This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition through the use of force.
It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.[/color]

12. The Primary Condition of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies, or Objects must not occupy the same Space.
When this condition is violated [Perfect Duplicate]
the Apparency of any Universe or any part thereof is nulled.

[See: SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL: The Prediction of Human Behaviour, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).
THE DYNAMICS AND TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard (1952).
See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard (1970).]

ANY CREATED OBJECT OR ENTITY HAS ITS CREATION, FUTURE AND END PROGRAMMED INTO IT, FROM THE BEGINNING.

Hostkene:
My question is - can destiny be changed?

THE ART OF A PROPHET IS TO READ THE PROGRAMMING OF ANY THING OR BEING: ONCE PROGRAMMING IS KNOWN, IT CAN BE CHANGED.

If your SPIRITUAL AWARENESS attains the necessary Dynamic Level, you can change your Destiny- even if it were GOD Who predicted It.

This ability is called SELF-DETERMINISM.

Hostkene:
This thread is not for psychiatric patients. If you have nothing to contribute or finding it difficult to read properly, then take the next door.

Did a prophet see it or did you see it?

KnownUnknown:
Did a prophet see it or did you see it?

Exactly what a psychiatric patient would sound like

Hostkene:
Exactly what a psychiatric patient would sound like

It depends on what the prophets see. Have you consulted them yet?
FYI - You can do the Macarena to nullify any bad thing they see.

Hostkene:
Go live your life, when different pastors tells you that the same thing was going to happen to you. Then take it as a joke and watch.
Thanks for your contribution. Think I'm done with you. I need smart people only.

That actually happened to me. Different pastors tried to convince my folks that I was wrong and had demons. I lived in that shadow for a while in Nigeria but fortunately, I escaped and now realize they were all frauds. What they said amounted to bullsheet and I am glad I never paid attention to their bullsheet.

I explained earlier that these ideas you speak of are pagan in origin and you are better off visiting a Babalawo for answers than seeking understanding from pastors in these things. Why? Because I speak from both experience and knowledge of God of scripture. You decide what you will do what I say. I can't help you since I don't believe in destiny.

KnownUnknown:
It depends on what the prophets see. Have you consulted them yet?
FYI - You can do the Macarena to nullify any bad thing they see.

You mean the psychiatric hospital? You need location?

Kobojunkie:
That actually happened to me. Different pastors tried to convince my folks that I was wrong and had demons. I lived in that shadow for a while in Nigeria but fortunately, I escaped and now realize they were all frauds. What they said amounted to bullsheet and I am glad I never paid attention to their bullsheet.

I explained earlier that these ideas you speak of are pagan in origin and you are better off visiting a Babalawo for answers than seeking understanding from pastors in these things. Why? Because I speak from both experience and knowledge of God of scripture. You decide what you will do what I say. I can't help you since I don't believe in destiny.

Difference men of God? Are you trying to say that they were all lies??

Different pastors to just randomly stand you up and tell you the same thing for free? And yet same thing still happened??

I still don't understand what you're trying to insunate about pastors who give prophecies. You think everyone is fake? You probably mean that God doesn't exist? It's well. Did has been done.

Kobojunkie:
That actually happened to me. Different pastors tried to convince my folks that I was wrong and had demons. I lived in that shadow for a while in Nigeria but fortunately, I escaped and now realize they were all frauds. What they said amounted to bullsheet and I am glad I never paid attention to their bullsheet.

I explained earlier that these ideas you speak of are pagan in origin and you are better off visiting a Babalawo for answers than seeking understanding from pastors in these things. Why? Because I speak from both experience and knowledge of God of scripture. You decide what you will do what I say. I can't help you since I don't believe in destiny.

Sorry for sounding rude.

I just lost a childhood friend who has been through alot, doubting me is what I least expect from anyone

Hostkene:
Sorry for sounding rude.

I just lost a childhood friend who has been through alot, doubting me is what I least expect from anyone

For me, destiny does not work as far as a general explanation for life and existence as a whole. It only seems to work if you myopically focus on just some aspects of it you want to, ignoring the bigger picture. It is like a sort of delusion that one has to subscribe to in order for it to even compute and only for a bit even. And I have been in my own mind long enough to know and realize that such delusions aren't worth it.

Hostkene:
1. Difference men of God? Are you trying to say that they were all lies??
2. Different pastors to just randomly stand you up and tell you the same thing for free? And yet same thing still happened??

I still don't understand what you're trying to insunate about pastors who give prophecies. You think everyone is fake? You probably mean that God doesn't exist? It's well. Did has been done.

1. Pretty much! My mother used to visit most any popular man of God in search for answers back then. I hated every one of those trips because I was left even more depressed after each, wondering why I was made faulty and what it was all for, to begin with.

2. They all said nonsense and nonsense it all amounted to at the end of the day. Of course, there were the few who the stones thrown out by those that day hit -they went away singing praises of the same pastors - but those of us who got shit cast on us went on downcast, wondering what was wrong with us.

3. In Christiandom, the power is meant to come from God Himself, not from Babalawos. So, when you find a Christian who claims to be a pastor using babalawo powers, you already know such a one is a fake pastor. A fraud is a fraud no matter what.

Hostkene:
You mean the psychiatric hospital? You need location?

If you can get the location from four pastors and seven prophets who can see, I’ll accept it.

Hostkene:
Sorry for sounding rude.

I just lost a childhood friend who has been through alot, doubting me is what I least expect from anyone

You lost him?! Find prophets who can see and you will definitely find him.

Kobojunkie:
1. Pretty much! My mother used to visit most any popular man of God in search for answers back then. I hated every one of those trips because I was left even more depressed after each, wondering why I was made faulty and what it was all for, to begin with.

2. They all said nonsense and nonsense it all amounted to at the end of the day. Of course, there were the few who the stones thrown out by those that day hit -they went away singing praises of the same pastors - but those of us who got shit cast on us went on downcast, wondering what was wrong with us.

3. In Christiandom, the power is meant to come from God Himself, not from Babalawos. So, when you find a Christian who claims to be a pastor using babalawo powers, you already know such a one is a fake pastor. A fraud is a fraud no matter what.

I've always had clear experience with pastors...

Whether fake pastor or not, the main question is - "can he see"? If he can see properly, than I have no issues with that.

You've had bad experiences with pastors, I'm still yet to encounter one. I believe there is God and I believe we still have pastors who has the gift of vision

KnownUnknown:
You lost him?! Find prophets who can see and you will definitely find him.

Sorry for replying to you man .

I look like a fool replying to you , you can type alone and reply alone sir. Bye bye

Hostkene:
Sorry for replying to you man .

I look like a fool replying to you , you can type alone and reply alone sir. Bye bye

I see good things in your future.

Hostkene:
I've always had clear experience with pastors...
Whether fake pastor or not, the main question is - "can he see"? If he can see properly, than I have no issues with that.
You've had bad experiences with pastors, I'm still yet to encounter one. I believe there is God and I believe we still have pastors who has the gift of vision

Which God do you claim to believe in? Because the God of Christian Scripture, whom you claim to believe in, did not give His followers power to see into the private lives of individuals as your seers and Babalawos do. So, you need to know who exactly your God is.

First, resolve your God issues, then you resolve the fact that in God's eyes, those pastors you claim to have had a good experience with are all of them false prophets. Then maybe you will begin to see that what you claim may not be as you have imagined them at all.

Kobojunkie:
Which God do you claim to believe in? Because the God of Christian Scripture, whom you claim to believe in, did not give His followers power to see into the private lives of individuals as your seers and Babalawos do. So, you need to know who exactly your God is.

First, resolve your God issues, then you resolve the fact that in God's eyes, those pastors you claim to have had a good experience with are all of them false prophets. Then maybe you will begin to see that what you claim may not be as you have imagined them at all.

Oh, no pastors have the gift of vision??

Where in the Bible exactly please?

Cos I'm yet to understand why different pastors would fish you out and tell you the same thing others have been telling you... This is yet to be answered.

Last time I checked, a witch doesn't want you dead, rather it wants you to live and SUFFER.

concerning my second paragraph, lemme know where in the Bible exactly...

Hostkene:
1. Oh, no pastors have the gift of vision?? Where in the Bible exactly, please?

2. Cos I'm yet to understand why different pastors would fish you out and tell you the same thing others have been telling you... This is yet to be answered.

3. Last time I checked, a witch doesn't want you dead, rather it wants you to live and SUFFER.

4. concerning my second paragraph, lemme know where in the Bible exactly...

1. The power you have in Jesus Christ is given to you by Him and there is no record in the Gospels of Jesus Christ giving His followers power to see into the personal lives of others.
2. Soothsayers and Psychics have done pretty much that for the longest. Those you call pastors simply copied those tricks to use on the gullible is what.

3. I don't know about that. Even the average individual out there harbors ill will towards his fellow men, so?

Kobojunkie:
1. The power you have in Jesus Christ is given to you by Him and there is no record in the Gospels of Jesus Christ giving His followers power to see into the personal lives of others.
2. Soothsayers and Psychics have done pretty much that for the longest. Those you call pastors simply copied those tricks to use on the gullible is what.

3. I don't know about that. Even the average individual out there harbors ill will towards his fellow men, so?

1. Bible verse please?

2. Pastors copied the trick to use on the gullible ones, how then do different pastors from different locations tell you the same thing

Hostkene:
1. Bible verse please?

2. Pastors copied the trick to use on the gullible ones, how then do different pastors from different locations tell you the same thing

1. The below passage details the power Jesus Christ bestowed on His followers

15 He said to them, “Go everywhere in the world. Tell the Good News to everyone. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. But those who do not believe will be judged guilty.
17 And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned.
18 If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.” - Mark 16 vs 15 - 18.

Notice how there is no mention of powers to peer into people's private lives?

2. Similar way Soothsayers and psychics also can?

Kobojunkie:
1. The below passage details the power Jesus Christ bestowed on His followers
Notice how there is no mention of powers to peer into people's private lives?

2. Similar way Soothsayers and psychics also can?

1. You are still yet to bring a Bible verse.

2. Similar way soothsayers can, So why do you say they are lies Minewhile you suggested I should also visit the soothsayers?

Hostkene:
1. You are still yet to bring a Bible verse.

2. Similar way soothsayers can, So why do you say they are lies Minewhile you suggested I should also visit the soothsayers?

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2. They are the experts in such things, aren't they?

Kobojunkie:
1.

2. They are the experts in such things, aren't they?

1. Still waiting..

2. They are experts, yet why do you say they are liers? And you still suggest me to visit them for visions

Hostkene:
1. Still waiting..

2. They are experts, yet why do you say they are liers? And you still suggest me to visit them for visions

1. I am sorry but I can't help you there.

2. I didn't call them liars. Pay attention!.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am sorry but I can't help you there.

2. I didn't call them liars. Pay attention!.

1. Means you don't know what you're saying.

2. What then do you call them? Since you were posing the prophecy my frnd got as "coincidence",,, and since you said pastors and soothsayers use same trick... What do you call them then?