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|Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by kolaxed98(m): 10:35am On Jan 10|
So my friend send me this pic
Spanning the size of 40km square. The size of capital of ebonyi.
Second largest in Africa.
Worth billions of dollar
All located in ogun
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:32am On Jan 10|
Before they start to brag they didn't borrow a dime from the bank or any institution, I hope the members will be able to afford these houses to rent unlike the university that was built with same members' money but wasn't affordable. Btw, why do you tagged it Oyedepo massive estate? His personal property or church investment? I'm just curious
You can hate me for telling the truth....I really don't care....
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|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:32am On Jan 10|
Let me book space for haters who will come and shout "some members can't afford it".
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:37am On Jan 10|
Because YOU ALREADY KNOW an average member won't be able to afford the price tag that will eventually be placed on it....just like the universities.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:38am On Jan 10|
Goshen360:See them already. Are there no orphaned members from humble background graduating from CU and LU yearly? The answer is they exist and in substantial number, so what are you talking about. It is a matter of giving a percentage of admission slots to the brilliant and poor(orphaned) via scholarship and then making the best of the rest pay according to the set standard.
I am ashamed of you bros.
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|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:43am On Jan 10|
What in the world are you talking about? When a man does good, he will be commended for it and no one hating on Oyedepo and his contribution to the community but just make it AFFORDABLE TO THE AVERAGE MEMBERS SO MAJORITY CAN ATTEND PLUS AND STILL GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS TO THOSE WHO NEED IT BECAUSE U CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
And you don't have to be ashamed of me because I don't carry shame neither do I say or do shameful things, you just can't deal with truth because you made Oyedepo your god that can't be touched or spoken against.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:44am On Jan 10|
Goshen360:Stop spreading falsehood. There are poor folks in that school. there are robust scholarship schemes in place for those brilliant enough and proven member that are unfortunate to be orphaned.
You talk as if poverty is a thing that is planned or a thing that can be insured in such way that if you ever make money, the insurer pays you heavily.
Stop spreading falsehood sir.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:47am On Jan 10|
Goshen360:No system works like that and survives. Nigeria is an example. The Deeper Life University ( forgotten the exact name ) are also good example. They can't pay salary because they want to make their school cheap by all means.
Winners financial model is a fair one and I challenge you to show me any school that runs the way you are suggesting and excelled.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:48am On Jan 10|
How much is the school fees in the university AND HOW MANY PERCENTAGE OF MEMBERS CAN AFFORD THAT FEES....give us figures and let's see who's spreading falsehood and who's inconsiderate
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:53am On Jan 10|
Goshen360:Oga winners does not force people to pay their money there. The government is there taking tax from you forcefully. pay your offering to the government then take them to court if you don't get admitted to a public school because you couldnt raise enough to pay the fees.
Show me a church owned or run university that works that way and satisfies all members. I am waiting.
Church seed are suppose to be paid with faith of receiving. That's why Abel was justified and had acceptable offering above Cain. So stop trying to pin this on Oyedepo.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:54am On Jan 10|
Let me get done driving and handle you on this.... okay
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 11:59am On Jan 10|
Goshen360:I am waiting for your ignorant áss.
It has been long since i intellectually raped an intellectual like you. I count this as a service to God in advance.
I strongly suspect you are a bricklayer or casual laborer in that project and just managed to snap that pics with your barely-camera phone. If not you won't be demanding funny freebies from a church when your govt still has a face.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 12:08pm On Jan 10|
Goshen360:I can see your early attempt at dodging my questions about other churches doing same by asking me question that are irrelevant in return. Let me still give you answer.
Go and check or google "theoyedepofoundation scholarship" and see what it entails. As for the exact figure or percentage of winners member in the church's schools, I can't give you an answer because the school doesn't discriminate or ask for such details when admitting. I know that for sure.
So I am waiting for your own answer as regards church owned schools that are subsidized heavily to point of affordability for all members and runs well enough to have reputation.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 2:29pm On Jan 10|
I'm NEVER scared to answer your question (s) whichever way. Now, to answer your question, the same way I'm jumping winners now and I had critized other same Churches who collect money from all kinds of members AND DO NOT PAY TAXES BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS " NON PROFIT" organization BUT THE MONEY COLLECTED FROM NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION are used to build these instructions that AREN'T STILL AFFORDABLE TO MOST MEMBERS....I'm jumping on winners now as I have jumped other churches too in the past and this is wickedness in our society
2. I'm not in anyway disputing the scholarships as I'm aware of that. I was onced a winners member and I can give you inner details about winners and their scams. I'm talking about reasonable affordability to both the new housing as I hope and the non affordable universities.
3. I'm not running those universities but here's my submission....if the so called subsidies are still not AFFORDABLE...the truth is there's nothing subsized. And btw, if PROFIT are not made, how do you expand more on businesses if Oyedepo claims they don't profit off the first university to build another one....THINK MAN, THINK AND STOP YOUR MENTAL SLAVERY.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 2:35pm On Jan 10|
Let's understand something, if we're gonna have conversation we gonna talk like ADULTS AND YOU GONNA COME WITH RESPECT while I do same but if you gonna claim a Christian and act thogery, I can decide what to do....okay.
Do you know me and my background to insinuate am a bricklayer or casual labourer? And btw, even if I am, what's wrong with that? Is bricklayer or casual labourer not human being? Stop displaying your thogery online and btw u not doing this as service to God bit in defense of Oyedepo who had brainwashed people like you and enslaved you mentally.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Jeromejnr(m): 2:45pm On Jan 10|
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 3:33pm On Jan 10|
Goshen360:Pathetic. You are speculating. How did they get money to build the first university then? Maybe from faith academy! But if that was true, then did they get the money to build the first faith academy? You have to keep speculating to justify that.
You are speculating man. give us facts.
If you claim CU is making profit then explain why UI that gets as high as 500,000 per student per year of subsidy from FG isn't having a trillion Naira reserves or profit stashed somewhere?
Just like the average internet warrior, you are always speculating that the schools makes profit and all you arguments are based on these speculations.
From what I can glean from you here, you have no idea what it takes to run a university.
Professors earn average of N12m/annum, then there is power, maintenance, and many others. You are assuming the 30-40k they pay in public schools is what they run the schools with and therefore erroneously conclude that public universities charging 600-850k are making profit.
Go and do a thorough research, the FG subsidizes the average public uni graduate by hundreds of thousands yearly.
UI spends over Half a million on grads from biological science depts.
Professor Okebukola attested to this himself. Stop assuming what you don't know bros.
Read up the current university strike in South Africa and be enlightened. CU and LU don't make any profits.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 6:24pm On Jan 10|
Who then is subsiding winner universities and where money coming from to expand to the next university and now the housing estate? You can keep on defending fraud....it doesn't make no difference, everyone knows what's going on and btw, if Oyedepo dies and hand over all the businesses to his son and we speak out against him, you will still be here defending him.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 7:48pm On Jan 10|
If Oyedepo goes home to be with the good Lord and hands over to his son, it is a question of whether God has ordained his son to take over.
Even if God chooses a former Fulani herdsman as the new leader it is up to the followers to watch out for the signs of of a true apostle in him.
As for the funding of the school, the money comes from various source including private individuals.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 11:50pm On Jan 10|
All the big grammar you've been dropping since since, see how you EASILY MADE MY POINT since the argument back and forth....THIS IS A UNIVERSAL FACT AND TRUTH.... Oyedepo collects from the CHURCH MEMBERS ALL OVER THE BRANCH NETWORKS.... including remit all TITHE to headquarters and these are the sources of universities and housing estate found BUT HOW IS IT AVERAGE INDIVIDUALS OR EVEN ALL MEMBERS CANT AFFORD THESE UNIVERSITY OR WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE HOUSING ....if they have been contributing or paying tithes into the ministry for years....if you don't get my angle I'm criticizing this practice from by this time, I conclude your are one of Oyedepo loyalist and I am not.
2. As for the handing over to his son, it's NOT A MATTER of if God says his son will take over or not....it's how things are being lined up IN OUR EYES AND THE SIGNS ARE THERE....It's also on record here on nairaland....I sincerely hope I can find the thread where Oyedepo has said when he dies, his son will take over.... that's when I left the church then.... again i was a member of winners at the badagry branch and the information I do know ....you will be amazed but I'm not spilling nothing out here.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by spongeisback: 11:54pm On Jan 10|
Oyedepo the only "billionaire" without any prior business. Dude just opened a church now he's balling.
Bloody criminal!!!! Before you insult yourself, tell your "daddy" to go to the UK. The British indicted this man for diverting MILLIONS of pounds meant for charity, Thief!
If only Nigerians are not bloody corrupt and wicked this man and his kind would be cooling their heels in jail.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by asuustrike1: 12:28am On Jan 11|
Goshen360:And who told you he doesn't give scholarship?
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Goshen360(m): 12:47am On Jan 11|
I NEVER argued that.... follow the thread and just don't jump in.... okay.
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|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by asuustrike1: 12:54am On Jan 11|
Goshen360:But you did. I followed it hence I picked that from your earlier submission
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by InansBobo(m): 7:18am On Jan 11|
Goshen360:the thing is that you're less informed as to how these things are run and anyone who is so(sees these things from the far outer space) would surely say what you're saying.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by ChiefAzubuike(f): 7:33am On Jan 11|
The Shiloh sacrifice and January first fruit una pay nahim dem dey use execute this project.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 7:59am On Jan 11|
Goshen360:Point of correction. He manages what the members entrust in him. has he ever threatened anyone for money? Never.
You keep on regurgitating your weak and redundant argument about all members not being able to afford the school. I asked you in return, can all citizens afford the federal universities of the govt they pay tax to also? Even as heavily subsidized as the schools are (30-50k of fees) many still can't afford them.
Another important question or factor you purposely fail to consider is " was the school established to meet the schooling needs of every member's children and ward? " Never. It wasn't. So why should the church try to accommodate all members children simultaneously?
I have challenged you severally. show me any church that does that.
Show me any church that receives less than N100k in tithes and offering from a particular family all through the year then flips it around into a N600k - N850k of school fee subsidy for 2 or 3 children from that same family? Please show me where this your almighty MMM formula is working. I am waiting for you. come at me with facts or just take it easy.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 8:05am On Jan 11|
spongeisback:I wanted to ask you some other question but I will ask if you are a believing Christian?
Do you believe on the Bible at all?
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Anas09: 8:35am On Jan 11|
CodeTemplar:Pls don't bother with that one, he is a satanist.
|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by Anas09: 8:38am On Jan 11|
ChiefAzubuike:The operative word is 'Una'. Na awa sacrifice, and awa first fruits wey awa pastor dey use execute the projects. We wey give the moni no dey complain, you wey your kobo no dey inside dey cry, why?
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|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by generationz(f): 9:22am On Jan 11|
Before you criticize a system make sure you make an effort to become a part of it and observe from within
You people will willingly take student loans , work several jobs etc just to get a degree from Yale , Harvard or some backwater university in the UK where they use the money from African students for their own students.
Stop acting like you have the best interest of the so called poor at heart , you know nothing about how that school is run and when someone who was a part of the system is trying to educate you, you scream nonsense.
Your federal government schools that are affordable for the poor are nothing to write home about . Despite the fact that these schools are funded from taxes generates from the poor an average government universitys merit list has the names of lecturers and politicians kids first before your own children will dream of it.
Despite funding from taxes and it being affordable for the poor we dilapidated structures , overcrowded classrooms and hostels, outdated lecture notes , lecturers who act like gods etc.
Despite being in a third world country that seems to be going backward cannanland and the entire ministry is one of the most structured I have seen in Nigeria.
There has never been power outage in cannanland since it was dedicated in 1999. It doesn't use phcn but internally generated gas power plants unlike your country that has been battling power issues since 1960.
How that church is run still baffles me sometimes, it is an obvious miracle.
It isn't run on taxes which are expected to be regular but on tithes.
You really think everyone pays tithes and offerings.
How many high income earners even attend the church.
Remember tithe is 10% of once a month . unlike many pastors I ha e never seen oyedepo raise seed offering and trust me I have been to many churches where pastors frustrate their members with sowing money for miracles and seed offerings .
Like I said earlier how that church is run without any hitch is a miracle to me. Despite massive looting , yes I said massive looting within the system by members of administration, pastors and those in charge of accounts that church still manages to stand.
Do you know that there was a system set up to give very poor members 50k and 20k (depending on your need ) to start a business of your choice.
Do you know that that initiative was frustrated by fraudulent practises of pastors within the system and many poor people who come back 10 times to collect money with many different stories.
What of the free bus rides provided for church members nko? greedy drivers , greedy pastors destroyed it.
Before you criticize a system be part of it first and see how its run
Before you criticize a man walk a mile in his shoes first and see how it pinches.
I have an assignment for you - as you have taken time out to be a freedom fighter and cry out for the poor I hope you also take out time and money to care for the poor people in your community. Unless you have no case
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|Re: Pics Of Bishop Oyedepo Canaancity Massive Estate Ota by CodeTemplar: 10:12am On Jan 11|
generationz:God bless you. The guy you are replying belongs to small and inconsequential group of radical, rebellious and ignorant believer who want to turn the church into MMM or thrift society (osusu) system.
He has forgotten that as a believer he is suppose to give with faith and expect his reward from God and not Oyedepo or Adeboye. He doesn't realize the the reason Abel had a more excellent sacrifice above Cain was faith (Hebrews 11:4). And that explains why he is always tracking what his inconsequential offering and seed is being used for on social media.
God bless you for that revealing post.
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