A40:

Lol. Nothing like leverage when you're under a 4 year deal. If you want leverage you sign a 2 year or 1 year deal. Also the guys that wield such power are less than 2% of the league. Bear in mind that even the Nets now are not obliged to respond to KD's request. They could tell him see you at training camp. And na there conversation go end

Lmaoo. You think Euroleague and China can afford to give 9 figure contracts?? Better wake up. Everything is swimmingly because there's enough money in the pot to go round but if there's a lockout the players would be much much harder hit than the owners. You think Stan Kroenke, Steve Ballmer, Joe Tsai rely on NBA money? Don't be funny bro

In the year of the lockout. Dirk was under contract for 4yr/80mil. The Chinese league offered him 1.5mil per month, with the knowledge that he would leave whenever the lockout ended. With the fact that basketball players from the states don't pay taxes in China, I say that is pretty equivalent, we've not even started to talk about the endorsement opportunities and how brands like Nike, Adidas pand puma would love it for the big name guys to play there even if it is for just a season.

PS: you say the owners don't need the money. I say all the players association needs to do is go to either Blackrock or one of the emirates fund and guarantee that if they get the funding for a league, every single player in the nba retires from the nba and joins said new league, if they guarantee coaches a union, coaches will absolutely follow them. In case you think it is far fetched, the PGA just saw how easy it is for players to get funding for a competing tour. Aston Martin one of the worst teams in f1, just secured over $600mil in funding for a paltry 17% stake from the same people. So please keep telling yourself the players don't have an option, if they decide to go nuclear the owners will lose, because their investment will become worthless.
That is why it is in everybody's interest to work together and fix the issues that exists without one group acting as if it's an aristocracy.

One of the easiest ways to make sure players don't move and I don't understand why it is not allowed is to give max/supermax players the option of taking an ownership stake instead of cash wages.
The new Wolves GM who has done nothing for the franchise got ownership stake as part of his package, if that same option is given to players you will see them remaining long term, because their leaving will affect their pocket.
This idea is not novel in business, because it is done in about every industry in the USA except for sports.

Khanben:


In the year of the lockout. Dirk was under contract for 4yr/80mil. The Chinese league offered him 1.5mil per month, with the knowledge that he would leave whenever the lockout ended. With the fact that basketball players from the states don't pay taxes in China, I say that is pretty equivalent, we've not even started to talk about the endorsement opportunities and how brands like Nike, Adidas pand puma would love it for the big name guys to play there even if it is for just a season.

PS: you say the owners don't need the money. I say all the players association needs to do is go to either Blackrock or one of the emirates fund and guarantee that if they get the funding for a league, every single player in the nba retires from the nba and joins said new league, if they guarantee coaches a union, coaches will absolutely follow them. In case you think it is far fetched, the PGA just saw how easy it is for players to get funding for a competing tour. Aston Martin one of the worst teams in f1, just secured over $600mil in funding for a paltry 17% stake from the same people. So please keep telling yourself the players don't have an option, if they decide to go nuclear the owners will lose, because their investment will become worthless.
That is why it is in everybody's interest to work together and fix the issues that exists without one group acting as if it's an aristocracy.

Lmaooo. You're a really funny guy. You think Guangdong Tigers will pay Khris Middleton 20mil per season or KCP 10mil for one season of ball? We're talking about sustainability you're bringing up outliers of 1 or 2 players.
China cannot pay NBA money. Better don't kid yourself. They tried it with football. Barely 2 seasons it crashed. You're jonzing if you think the Chinese can bankroll 30 NBA teams and pay anything close to NBA type salary.

There's a reason there's no equivalent of the NBA, NFL or MLB anywhere in the world. The US far and away still have the biggest economy.

Laughable also that you compare the PGA an individual sport to the NBA a team sport. The dynamics are a 1000% different. Laughable that you also compare a 1 time buy-in stake to recurring salaries

Anyway it's not your fault na Adam Silver wey dey form Player's commissioner. In the good old days of David Stern all this nonsense no dey fly

Nothing like aristocracy. It's a boss and employee dynamic. There's no field or sphere of life where employer and employee will always have it equal. And neither should it be that way. The only thing you should push for is disparity to not be too wide.

Khanben:


In the year of the lockout. Dirk was under contract for 4yr/80mil. The Chinese league offered him 1.5mil per month, with the knowledge that he would leave whenever the lockout ended. With the fact that basketball players from the states don't pay taxes in China, I say that is pretty equivalent, we've not even started to talk about the endorsement opportunities and how brands like Nike, Adidas pand puma would love it for the big name guys to play there even if it is for just a season.

PS: you say the owners don't need the money. I say all the players association needs to do is go to either Blackrock or one of the emirates fund and guarantee that if they get the funding for a league, every single player in the nba retires from the nba and joins said new league, if they guarantee coaches a union, coaches will absolutely follow them. In case you think it is far fetched, the PGA just saw how easy it is for players to get funding for a competing tour. Aston Martin one of the worst teams in f1, just secured over $600mil in funding for a paltry 17% stake from the same people. So please keep telling yourself the players don't have an option, if they decide to go nuclear the owners will lose, because their investment will become worthless.
That is why it is in everybody's interest to work together and fix the issues that exists without one group acting as if it's an aristocracy.

They can take a few players, but they cant sustain one NBA team talk less of a dozen.

A40:
Lmaooo. You're a really funny guy. You think Guangdong Tigers will pay Khris Middleton 20mil per season or KCP 10mil for one season of ball? We're talking about sustainability you're bringing up outliers of 1 or 2 players.
China cannot pay NBA money. Better don't kid yourself. They tried it with football. Barely 2 seasons it crashed. You're jonzing if you think the Chinese can bankroll 30 NBA teams and pay anything close to NBA type salary.

There's a reason there's no equivalent of the NBA, NFL or MLB anywhere in the world. The US far and away still have the biggest economy.

Laughable also that you compare the PGA an individual sport to the NBA a team sport. The dynamics are a 1000% different. Laughable that you also compare a 1 time buy-in stake to recurring salaries

Anyway it's not your fault na Adam Silver wey dey form Player's commissioner. In the good old days of David Stern all this nonsense no dey fly

Nothing like aristocracy. It's a boss and employee dynamic. There's no field or sphere of life where employer and employee will always have it equal. And neither should it be that way. The only thing you should push for is disparity to not be too wide.

What is the nba without it top 10 players. Are you going to be watching a finals where Middleton is the best player on the court?
It was Stern that made the nba about the players, before him it was Lakers vs Celtics, he came in and changed it to Magic vs Bird.
Furthermore employee and employer dynamic is based on what the employee does for the team, most CEOs and MDs are employees, but they still get ownership stakes as part of the payments.
GSW was a nobody before Steph, whatever valuation GSW is worth today, at the very least 20% is due to what Steph did on the court.

PS: Why does all this stuff not happen in European football, cr7 wanted to leave Madrid while under contract and Madrid reduced his buyout clause and helped facilitate the move, same thing when he wanted to leave Juve, they let him go on a free. But a nba player who can be traded whenever ownership wants, decides he wants a trade then all of a sudden he has committed treason. Maybe we should be asking why they expect some rights for themselves but not the same for players.

birdman:


They can take a few players, but they cant sustain one NBA team talk less of a dozen.

Nobody says they will take all, but they can definitely sustain taking the very best.
Also, a $150bil investment with a a yearly return of like 5% for say the 1st 3-5yrs and rising to say 10% after that is something that the nba players as a product can generate if they start their own league, and that is easily sellable in today's financial market. Any fund manager worth their name will scramble to get some of that action.

PS: The next NBA CBA discussion will be starting by latest next year, we will all see that the players will not lose any ground when it's all said and done, because they have a very strong hand and they know how to play it.

Khanben:


Nobody says they will take all, but they can definitely sustain taking the very best.
Also, a $150bil investment with a a yearly return of like 5% for say the 1st 3-5yrs and rising to say 10% after that is something that the nba players as a product can generate if they start their own league, and that is easily sellable in today's financial market. Any fund manager worth their name will scramble to get some of that action.

PS: The next NBA CBA discussion will be starting by latest next year, we will all see that the players will not lose any ground when it's all said and done, because they have a very strong hand and they know how to play it.

lol hasn't the nfl tried something like this mutiple times?

Khanben:



PS: Why does all this stuff not happen in European football, cr7 wanted to leave Madrid while under contract and Madrid reduced his buyout clause and helped facilitate the move, same thing when he wanted to leave Juve, they let him go on a free. But a nba player who can be traded whenever ownership wants, decides he wants a trade then all of a sudden he has committed treason. Maybe we should be asking why they expect some rights for themselves but not the same for players.

CR7 release clause was 1B boss. Let's not even go there.

He was 33 then, madrid made an evaluation and put an 100M price tag on him which is ridiculous cause he is also going to command heavy wages and he is probably not gonna give you more than 4 years of elite performances at most. Juve met it and it was game.

Same with the Present KD situation I think. Nobody has just been willing to meet their evaluation

Khanben:


Nobody says they will take all, but they can definitely sustain taking the very best.
Also, a $150bil investment with a a yearly return of like 5% for say the 1st 3-5yrs and rising to say 10% after that is something that the nba players as a product can generate if they start their own league, and that is easily sellable in today's financial market. Any fund manager worth their name will scramble to get some of that action.

PS: The next NBA CBA discussion will be starting by latest next year, we will all see that the players will not lose any ground when it's all said and done, because they have a very strong hand and they know how to play it.

Hahahaha. This man is a utopian. See as e dey call $150bn like say na pure water. Where them wan see am? Who will drop $150bn. Not even Saudi Government and China combined

No take laugh kill me abeg. Where do you think the money is going to come from.

Players will definitely lose ground. Not to the degree that people fear but if you think it will just be business as usual you definitely have another thing coming

Khanben:


What is the nba without it top 10 players. Are you going to be watching a finals where Middleton is the best player on the court?
It was Stern that made the nba about the players, before him it was Lakers vs Celtics, he came in and changed it to Magic vs Bird.
Furthermore employee and employer dynamic is based on what the employee does for the team, most CEOs and MDs are employees, but they still get ownership stakes as part of the payments.
GSW was a nobody before Steph, whatever valuation GSW is worth today, at the very least 20% is due to what Steph did on the court.

PS: Why does all this stuff not happen in European football, cr7 wanted to leave Madrid while under contract and Madrid reduced his buyout clause and helped facilitate the move, same thing when he wanted to leave Juve, they let him go on a free. But a nba player who can be traded whenever ownership wants, decides he wants a trade then all of a sudden he has committed treason. Maybe we should be asking why they expect some rights for themselves but not the same for players.

And so Giannis, KD, Steph,Lebron play with who? Li Jianlian and Xi Jinping? Abi who go be their teammates

Stern and the league pushed specific players but it wasn't a player league. The players were used to sell the league without any real power. Michael Jordan was the ambassador of the game from pretty much 88 to 98. He didn't start making significant league money till the final 2-3 years of his contract.

Are you talking about the same David Stern that blocked the CP3 to Lakers trade? Go and look up your NBA history. Commissioner Stern was a no nonsense guy

Steph was even more of a nobody. The team surrounded him with talent. Their location also helped. Steph has not done more than what Tim Duncan did for the San Antonio Spurs. Nobody has crowned him shareholder

Ronaldo was moved at the behest of Madrid. Same way the Nets are not obliged to honor KDs request if they're not satisfied with the compensation. Let me reiterate Kevin Durant is a staff of the Nets. The Nets pay him not the other way round. You cannot be dragging equal privileges with the man that cuts your cheque. It's not done anywhere. And when you do agidi laslas the boss will eventually put you in your place.

Say what you want about Lebron but at least he's never not seen out his contracts

What is sports compensation turning into?

J. Soto, the outfielder (LF) for the Washington Nationals rejected a whopping 15 year, $440M offer. This kid is only 23, already a champion and wants to test his value in the market with 2 years left in his current contract. This man is seeking $500M for shorter amount of years which he believes he will get.

I am in the wrong profession

Roland17:
What is sports compensation turning into?

J. Soto, the outfielder (LF) for the Washington Nationals rejected a whopping 15 year, $440M offer. This kid is only 23, already a champion and wants to test his value in the market with 2 years left in his current contract. This man is seeking $500M for shorter amount of years which he believes he will get.

I am in the wrong profession

i wish say i go play ball for roundabout instead of go primary school sometimes sef

donlittle25:
i wish say i go play ball for roundabout instead of go primary school sometimes sef

Naija too hard and the chances to blow dey very low.

If to say na for here I do primary school or high school? Dem for hear am

Imagine rejecting $440M guaranteed money

Roland17:
What is sports compensation turning into?

J. Soto, the outfielder (LF) for the Washington Nationals rejected a whopping 15 year, $440M offer. This kid is only 23, already a champion and wants to test his value in the market with 2 years left in his current contract. This man is seeking $500M for shorter amount of years which he believes he will get.

I am in the wrong profession

Lol

Roland17:
What is sports compensation turning into?

J. Soto, the outfielder (LF) for the Washington Nationals rejected a whopping 15 year, $440M offer. This kid is only 23, already a champion and wants to test his value in the market with 2 years left in his current contract. This man is seeking $500M for shorter amount of years which he believes he will get.

I am in the wrong profession

Omo. Where these people dey see this money? See what person for here thinks China and Saudi can replicate

Be like na baseball my pikin go play so

donlittle25:
i wish say i go play ball for roundabout instead of go primary school sometimes sef

Lol
This is funny.

A40:
Omo. Where these people dey see this money? See what person for here thinks China and Saudi can replicate

Be like na baseball my pikin go play so

TV money for America no be anybody mate!

Na from belle I dey train my own to play sports.

Khanben:


Nobody says they will take all, but they can definitely sustain taking the very best.
Also, a $150bil investment with a a yearly return of like 5% for say the 1st 3-5yrs and rising to say 10% after that is something that the nba players as a product can generate if they start their own league, and that is easily sellable in today's financial market. Any fund manager worth their name will scramble to get some of that action.

PS: The next NBA CBA discussion will be starting by latest next year, we will all see that the players will not lose any ground when it's all said and done, because they have a very strong hand and they know how to play it.

The very best need a supporting cast. You will end up needing at least a third of the current league to form a parallel league that is viable. Good luck convincing a third of the league to stick their neck out. Cats that could not stay in the bubble for 2 weeks to win a ring, they had to get their strip club on and risk catching covid. You think they are disciplined enough for this? Nah.

Khanben:


JT got voted for 1st team all-nba because Embiid is a center. As long as the voting uses positions, then there had to be just 1 center to preserve tradition

In other words, Our boy Giannis will be in the first team for a very long time because I don't see any power-forward taking over soon. Maybe Zion Williamson but not with his couch potato weight. Talking about Legacies, dude is cementing one right before our eyes.

Pls basketball fans,abeg who create this mobile basketball game,d programmer need to be arrested for criminality,d game is d worst sport game I have ever play in my life in Mobile phone,d worse is that PG players are d worse shooters in d game, but d COM are like Superman or mighty thor in shooting, even players who are not good in shooting in real life, are still better or best than ur PG in d game,for example Looney (COM) is a better 3 point shooter than S.Curry and D.lillard,if u are using their team golden State and blazers to play against COM in d game,even they are not good in mid-range shot. One thing I like d game is d graphics, but d control and d shooting is so bad that u are likely to break ur phone.
The developer,programmer and need serious beating, because they create a game for basketball fans to play but make it very difficult for d same fans to win and d only difficult level that u can win is Rookie and Pro level, but when it is All star,super star u will lose,let me not talk about Hall all fame level that one is suicide, even d Pro level they will drag with u, before u win them. And d most annoying part is d tutorial level,if u shoot d ball,it will enter d ringnet easily but Gameplay against COM it will not,even used d same position and direction u used in tutorial level for d gameplay against COM,u will still lose d shot and another most annoying part,is when u shoot d ball and d ball is looking like if it trying to enter d ring net,like if it want to go in, it will still bounce out.
For me I rate d game 3/10 or 30% out of 100%, if u have play d game or still playing it , I need ur rating.

donlittle25:
lol hasn't the nfl tried something like this mutiple times?

The nfl is not a players league, the nba is

A40:
And so Giannis, KD, Steph,Lebron play with who? Li Jianlian and Xi Jinping? Abi who go be their teammates

Stern and the league pushed specific players but it wasn't a player league. The players were used to sell the league without any real power. Michael Jordan was the ambassador of the game from pretty much 88 to 98. He didn't start making significant league money till the final 2-3 years of his contract.

Are you talking about the same David Stern that blocked the CP3 to Lakers trade? Go and look up your NBA history. Commissioner Stern was a no nonsense guy

Steph was even more of a nobody. The team surrounded him with talent. Their location also helped. Steph has not done more than what Tim Duncan did for the San Antonio Spurs. Nobody has crowned him shareholder

Ronaldo was moved at the behest of Madrid. Same way the Nets are not obliged to honor KDs request if they're not satisfied with the compensation. Let me reiterate Kevin Durant is a staff of the Nets. The Nets pay him not the other way round. You cannot be dragging equal privileges with the man that cuts your cheque. It's not done anywhere. And when you do agidi laslas the boss will eventually put you in your place.

Say what you want about Lebron but at least he's never not seen out his contracts

Thank God you used the word staff, do you know what every other staff in every other industry can do whenever they want as long as they give notice, they can move to other companies. Freedom of movement in pursuit of professional fulfillment is a right of every human employee has, except it seems for sports stars.
as long as a team can trade away a player under contract anytime they want, then players should also have the same right to demand a trade whenever they want.
In every other industry, we see it all the time, top guys moving from one company to another while earning millions, but a sports stars tries it and it is derided as if the end of the world is nigh.

PS: when did sports become the only exception to capitalist principles?

Georgia football coach just signed a 10yr $112mil contract, but it is players making money that will kill the sport . A coach is the highest paid government employee in a state

Khanben:


The nfl is not a players league, the nba is

That is what nfl players used to think, until they were convinced otherwise.

In a fair business climate, your scenario is possible. Players have the goods, and can sell to the highest bidder in a capitalist society.

Unfortunately, big business does not work this way. In the case of the NBA, the owners have huge advantages like TV rights, backroom deals and buddy networks that include lawmakers, that ensure any usurper will fail. To make a parallel league to the NBA, you need to get an equivalent amount of rich billionaires to buy in to even have a chance to succeed. It is those billionaires that will wage war with the NBA to make sure parallel league succeeds.

If you doubt this, go count how many competitors google alone has killed in the last 5 years. Set aside a couple of hours to read the list

In the three NBA Finals games in which Payton drew the primary Jordan assignment, His Airness averaged only 23.7 points per game on 36.7 percent shooting from the field. In Chicago's first 15 playoff games, Jordan averaged 32.1 points on 47.6 percent shooting.

PS: Just putting it out there because we have a lot of revisionist history majors.

Wait, how did Malcolm Brogdon end up with Celtics . Na dis kin trade league suppose dey block. Who dash leprecahun banana

Westbrook and his agent parting ways. If the rumor of what caused the rift is true then the dude needs to do some deep soul searching.

birdman:
Wait, how did Malcolm Brogdon end up with Celtics . Na dis kin trade league suppose dey block. Who dash leprecahun banana

Na today you wake up abi?

No be only block na cement.

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Khanben:
In the three NBA Finals games in which Payton drew the primary Jordan assignment, His Airness averaged only 23.7 points per game on 36.7 percent shooting from the field. In Chicago's first 15 playoff games, Jordan averaged 32.1 points on 47.6 percent shooting.

PS: Just putting it out there because we have a lot of revisionist history majors.

2 good games vs Jordan (Games 4 and 6) and we no go hear word. What of the games Jordan was dropping 35pts or more on Gary Payton's head. Or you want to tell me in all those games Payton didn't have primary assignments in any of them