₦airaland Forum

VeryWickedMan:
Lagos is a no man's land. Every tribe claiming it are thieves who came there to sell off their own blood for gunpowder and mirror.

Tinubu came to Lagos on a maloo truck in 1961.

Oga go to Kano state and tell them it is no man's land they will turn you to suya.

Mind you Lagos is like Kano accommodating other tribes.

Was Calabar not a capital before?


Why did you not call calabar no man's land?

Hundreds of your brothers and sisters are on their war to Lagos, kano, Ibadan, Kaduna even Maiduguri this evening!!!

PARASITES REPUBLICANS

Femifasola:
Hausa fulani are considered to be same just because of useless politics of the fulani. Are you that daft? I guess so

The Yoruba and Egun Languages are more related than the Hausa and Fulani Language Which you agree here are the same People

Femifasola:
Eguns aren't yorubas like us, unity begger. If language is not a factor then what else. Stop claiming them, I am contended with just Yorubas of 5 states. Lagos belong to the Eguns and we should respect our host

Bro stop saying what you don’t know, because Egun that migrated from Ile ife didn’t speak full Yoruba now means they are not Yoruba?
What about Okun, Itsekiri, what about me Ikale and sister Ilaje that our languages are different from Yoruba?
If you don’t know I want you to know now, we Yoruba and nothing can separate us.

IamAtikulate:
There are also Ijaws

Ijebus

Egbas

Aworis

Ilajes

None of them are Yoruba

I haven't seen a bigger clownery all my life. The Ilaje sub group (which I belong to)is part of the Yoruba ethnic group and we have never denied our yorubaness. We even trace our history to Ile I've which is the source of the Yoruba race. The Awori's, Egba's and Ijebu's are Yoruba too

0lawale20:
I haven't seen a bigger clownery all my life. The Ilaje sub group (which I belong to)is part of the Yoruba ethnic group and we have never denied our yorubaness. We even trace our history to Ile I've which is the source of the Yoruba race. The Awori's, Egba's and Ijebu's are Yoruba too

They are not Sir.

Ilajes were Yorubanised.

Ekealterego:
Egun or Ogu people didn't migrate to that place, that is their ancestral lands. If anything, they were pushed back during the Oyo empire expansion.
Egun or Ogu people are from the great Dahomey kingdom who defeated the Oyo Empire.

Due to their location, they are traditionally water people who engage in fishing, basket making etc.

Egun are Descendants of Oduduwa and migrated from Ile Ife
They adoped the Language of the Fon in Dahomey and when Alaafin of Oyo defeated the Fon Kings the Egun and many Fon became bilingual speaking Yoruba too

The Egun king of Badagry wears a.beaded Crown from ife that only kings descended from Oduduwa Wear

christistruth01:
Egun are Descendants of Oduduwa and migrated from Ile Ife
They adoped the Language of the Fon in Dahomey and when Alaafin of Oyo defeated the Fon Kings the Egun and many Fon became bilingual speaking Yoruba too

The Egun king of Badagry wears a.beaded Crown from ife that only kings descended from Oduduwa Wear

Same Oduduwa who was a Bini prince.

Oduduwa story is pure folklore.

No one can tell with certainty. What is certain is that the mothertongue of Ogu people is not Yoruba and not related to Yoruba in any way. They also do not see themselves as Yoruba.

IamAtikulate:
They are not Sir.

Ilajes were Yorubanised.

Go to Igbokoda,Mahin and Ugbo and tell them this. I'm glad Nairaland is where this narrative of yours starts and ends

Ekealterego:
Same Oduduwa who was a Bini prince.

Oduduwa story is pure folklore.

No one can tell with certainty. What is certain is that the mothertongue of Ogu people is not Yoruba and not related to Yoruba in any way. They also do not see themselves as Yoruba.

Why is the Oba of Benin Claiming to be descended from a Myth then?

Oduduwa Story is not Folklore
The Exact Crown Oduduwa Wore is still in the Ooni’s Palace and Every New Ooni must wear it during his Coronation

All the Major Yoruba Kings and Kingdom founders descended from him


The Egun mother Tongue is in the same Kwa Language Group Yoruba


Hausa and Fulani Languages are completely unrelated yet they are considered to be the same People

IamAtikulate:
You see how painful it is when you people claim Delta Igbos are not Igbos and at the same time say the 1965 coup is an Igbo coup.

We know Aworis are Yorubas, but we just want you guys to see how foolish your thinking about Delta Igbos are.

We will continue to push that narrative until Yorubas repent.


Aworis are Yorubas but Egun, Ilajes and Ijebu are not. They don't even share the same ancestry. They were only Yorubanised due to closeness to Oyo Empire.

FACT

Who told you they are not from the same Ancestry?

Every Yoruba sub group trace their origin to Ile - ife and migrated from ile ife

You are just ignorant and adding "fact" in capital letters at the end of your comment doesn't make it fact.

0lawale20:
Go to Igbokoda,Mahin and Ugbo and tell them this. I'm glad Nairaland is where this narrative of yours starts and ends

I have visited those places and they told me that they are not Yoruba but Ilaje. They only learnt Yoruba to a avoid discrimination from Yorubas.

FACT

Christistruth00:
Why is the Oba of Benin Claiming to be descended from a Myth then?

Oduduwa Story is not Folklore
The Exact Crown Oduduwa Wore is still in the Ooni’s Palace and Every New Ooni must wear it during his Coronation

All the Major Yoruba Kings and Kingdom founders descended from him


The Egun mother Tongue is in the same Kwa Language Group Yoruba


Hausa and Fulani Languages are completely unrelated yet they are considered to be the same People

Bruv, stop misinforming yourself. Yoruba is not a Kwa language There exist NO Kwa language in Nigeria. These are mostly, Togo, Ghana and Ivory coast.

Ogu/Egun is a Fon-Gbe language and Yoruba cannot and is not a Gbe language. Yoruba is more related to Edoids and Igbo languages than the distant Ogu, which is basically a Fon language.

Some Igbo say they are from Israel, all these are not tied to written records nor archaeology.

Secondly, people like Ijebu believe they are from Sudan and or somewhere afar off and do not regard themselves as Yorubas. In fact, Ijebus and Egbas sold Yorubas as slaves up until the slave trade was abolished. However, I know of recent, this loud separation is no longer as vociferous as it used to be. Even though we understand that Ijebu is a Yoruba language.

Bottom-line, many Yorubas are so keen on quashing individual identity of these minority groups into their larger group and collapsing their identity for a Yoruba identity even if it means conjuring up a folklore that gears towards that goal.
Ogu people however do not speak a Yoruba or yoruboid language or even a related language. Igbo and Edo languages are closer to Yoruba than Ogu.

PureFace1:
Who told you they are not from the same Ancestry?

Every Yoruba sub group trace their origin to Ile - ife and migrated from ile ife

You are just ignorant and adding "fact" in capital letters at the end of your comment doesn't make it fact.

Lies Sir.

Ilajes didn't trace their ancestry to Ife.

FACT

VeryWickedMan:
Lagos is a no man's land. Every tribe claiming it are thieves who came there to sell off their own blood for gunpowder and mirror.

Tinubu came to Lagos on a maloo truck in 1961.

Why should you say the truth, oya come de go, you have said enough

IamAtikulate:
I have visited those places and they told me that they are not Yoruba but Ilaje. They only learnt Yoruba to a avoid discrimination from Yorubas.

FACT

According to akpu infested Ipob brain?

Keep deluding yourself with your imagination. Don't dare bring it to the face of an Ilaje man if you don't want to be flogged.

Ekealterego:
Bruv, stop misinforming yourself. Yoruba is not a Kwa language There exist NO Kwa language in Nigeria. These are mostly, Togo, Ghana and Ivory coast.

Ogu/Egun is a Fon-Gbe language and Yoruba cannot and is not a Gbe language. Yoruba is more related to Edoids and Igbo languages than the distant Ogu, which is basically a Fon language.

Some Igbo say they are from Israel, all these are not tied to written records nor archaeology.

Secondly, people like Ijebu believe they are from Sudan and or somewhere afar off and do not regard themselves as Yorubas. In fact, Ijebus and Egbas sold Yorubas as slaves up until the slave trade was abolished. However, I know of recent, this loud separation is no longer as vociferous as it used to be. Even though we understand that Ijebu is a Yoruba language.

Bottom-line, many Yorubas are so keen on quashing individual identity of these minority groups into their larger group and collapsing their identity for a Yoruba identity even if it means conjuring up a folklore that gears towards that goal.
Ogu people however do not speak a Yoruba or yoruboid language or even a related language. Igbo and Edo languages are closer to Yoruba than Ogu.

Another bullshit.

Egun language is as close to Yoruba as it can get. It's not even difficult to understand. I understand some of their tongue. People around the axis of ijebu, Ilaje etc can understand egun's language to an extent. It's been modified of course due to their interaction with other tribes in Ghana and Benin republic, especially after Dahomey enslaved them for a while.

That being said, your language isn't the source of your root but your culture and historical root. Egun root is from ile ife. So also is their culture.

0lawale20:
Go to Igbokoda,Mahin and Ugbo and tell them this. I'm glad Nairaland is where this narrative of yours starts and ends

Most Yoruba sub-ethnic groups were yorubanized via conquest.

The ijebus do not come from the lineage of oduduwa. They migrated from sudan and have now taken up the Yoruba language. But Does that make them Yoruba?

IamAtikulate:
Lies Sir.

Ilajes didn't trace their ancestry to Ife.

FACT

Go and tell them that

MrColdsweat:
Most Yoruba sub-ethnic groups were yorubanized via conquest.

The ijebus do not come from the lineage of oduduwa. They migrated from sudan and have now taken up the Yoruba language. But Does that make them Yoruba?

Who told you that?

You guys act like you know Ijebu history more than Ijebu people themselves.

Awolowo is an Ijebu man so you want to tell me Awolowo is no longer Yoruba?

You are very ignorant.

It is not only people that descended from Oduduwa lineage that bear Yoruba alone.

Yoruba mean people that migrated from Ile Ife in present day Osun state, to be a Yoruba at least you must have connection and trace your Origin to Ile ife.

Ekealterego:
Same Oduduwa who was a Bini prince.

Oduduwa story is pure folklore.

No one can tell with certainty. What is certain is that the mothertongue of Ogu people is not Yoruba and not related to Yoruba in any way. They also do not see themselves as Yoruba.

same bini that yoruba founded .....benin Is what we yoruba want they are our property and we can do them how we like ..just as we have the benin king grave in ife

diadem10:
Another bullshit.

Egun language is as close to Yoruba as it can get. It's not even difficult to understand. I understand some of their tongue. People around the axis of ijebu, Ilaje etc can understand egun's language to an extent. It's been modified of course due to their interaction with other tribes in Ghana and Benin republic, especially after Dahomey enslaved them for a while.

That being said, your language isn't the source of your root but your culture and historical root. Egun root is from ile ife. So also is their culture.

oga please stop misinforming people online.. we Gunuu which you guys call Eguns are not Yorubas and we were never enslaved by Dahomey, our language is not related at all.. yes most can also speak Yoruba but that doesn't make us Yorubas, just loke you have Yorubas in Benin Republic and Nigeria, we also have Gunnus in Nigeria and Benin Republic, the Akran of Badagry.. we don't call him Oba he is Aholu AKRAN.. Thats what we call our kings not Oba, and he didn't migrate from ile ife but Abomey.

masseratti:
oga please stop misinforming people online.. we Gunuu which you guys call Eguns are not Yorubas and we were never enslaved by Dahomey, our language is not related at all.. yes most can also speak Yoruba but that doesn't make us Yorubas, just loke you have Yorubas in Benin Republic and Nigeria, we also have Gunnus in Nigeria and Benin Republic, the Akran of Badagry.. we don't call him Oba he is Aholu AKRAN.. Thats what we call our kings not Oba, and he didn't migrate from ile ife but Abomey.

Another Ipob miscreant.

Let me dish these out below.

Ooni of ife;

Olowo of Owo;

Olubadan of Ibadan;

Alafin of Oyo;

Does that ring a bell to your head?

All Yoruba Obas have their titles which they bear. However they're all Obas

Meanwhile, you've seen the king of badagry in his attires. His costume, crown and wears are all Yorubas. His staff is from ile -ife. Egun's gods are sango, Ogun, IFA etc which are Yorubas.

You dey ment or what?

diadem10:
Another Ipob miscreant.

Let me dish these out below.

Ooni of ife;

Olowo of Owo;

Olubadan of Ibadan;

Alafin of Oyo;

Does that ring a bell to your head?

All Yoruba Obas have their titles which they bear. However they're all Obas

Meanwhile, you've seen the king of badagry in his attires. His costume, crown and wears are all Yorubas. His staff is from ile -ife. Egun's gods are sango, Ogun, IFA etc which are Yorubas.

You dey ment or what?

oga am Egun... other kings in Benin Republic also dress that way and wear crowns in that fashion its not just a Yoruba thing... we are not Yorubas and sango or ogun is not part of the traditional gods of Gunuus... have u heard of Zangbeto before? stop saying what you don't know online someone has been trying to correct you since the first page you decide to continue your ignorance online.

masseratti:
oga am Egun... other kings in Benin Republic also dress that way and wear crowns in that fashion its not just a Yoruba thing... we are not Yorubas and sango or ogun is not part of the traditional gods of Gunuus... have u heard of Zangbeto before? stop saying what you don't know online someone has been trying to correct you since the first page you decide to continue your ignorance online.

You're the one dealing in ignorance because Yoruba spanned all the way from Nigeria to Benin Republic and Togo. Some of them still send their chiefs to Ile-ife to represent them whenever Ile-ife is having any festive period. All Yoruba's historical root is from Ile-ife. You identify them by their culture.

Meanwhile, I can confirm you're a liar the moment you said ogun, IFA etc isn't part of egun's gods. Na ment?

As a matter of fact, egun stemmed from popo which is one of the offsprings of oduduwa.

diadem10:
Another bullshit.

Egun language is as close to Yoruba as it can get. It's not even difficult to understand. I understand some of their tongue. People around the axis of ijebu, Ilaje etc can understand egun's language to an extent. It's been modified of course due to their interaction with other tribes in Ghana and Benin republic, especially after Dahomey enslaved them for a while.

That being said, your language isn't the source of your root but your culture and historical root. Egun root is from ile ife. So also is their culture.

What do you mean your language is not your root?
Language says more about your root and history than any thing. Language is a bundle of your roots, history, battles and war expressed via sounds.

Do you mean Yoruba language does not define Yoruba people. When the name of your language is literarily the name of your people. Igbos speak Igbo. Yorubas speak Yoruba but the language is not the people? Guy please don't disappoint people with any iota of sense.

If Yoruba language is for Yorubas and Igbo language is for Igbos why are you contesting that Ógu/Egun should not define Egun people?

As per language classification. It is NOT an OPINION that Ógu is not a Yoruba language nor even close, it's a SCIENTIFIC fact.

It is possible that Ijebu and Ilaje could have an ógu sound, it shows past and present relationship which is a fact with all neighbouring languages. They can be mutually influential. However, by fact and not by folklore of a earth bound, heaven evicted creature who layed eggs all by himself to father children singlehandedly. Ógu do not speak a close language to Yoruba neither do they identify as Yorubas.

diadem10:
You're the one dealing in ignorance because Yoruba spanned all the way from Nigeria to Benin Republic and Togo. Some of them still send their chiefs to Ile-ife to represent them whenever Ile-ife is having any festive period. All Yoruba's historical root is from Ile-ife. You identify them by their culture.

Meanwhile, I can confirm you're a liar the moment you said ogun, IFA etc isn't part of egun's gods. Na ment?

As a matter of fact, egun stemmed from popo which is one of the offsprings of oduduwa.

you just a very ignorant person.. are you a Badagarian? have u ever been to Badagry to be talking about the people? am from Badagry my family compound is not far from the Akran palace... my uncle was former commissioner of Education in lagos state in the 80s under Babangida regime... so don't come online disputing my history for me and try to learn is not a bad thing to admit when you wrong online... Who tell you Sango, Ogun are Egun Gods... besides we don't call ourselves Egun... its either Ogu or Gunnu... period.

IamAtikulate:
I have visited those places and they told me that they are not Yoruba but Ilaje. They only learnt Yoruba to a avoid discrimination from Yorubas.

FACT

I'm sure you visited another Ilaje and not the one I hail from

diadem10:
According to akpu infested Ipob brain?

Keep deluding yourself with your imagination. Don't dare bring it to the face of an Ilaje man if you don't want to be flogged.

Na Ilaje people tell me

0lawale20:
I'm sure you visited another Ilaje and not the one I hail from

Ilaje in Ondo state

Which one did you hail from?

PureFace1:
Go and tell them that

Wikipedia?



Bros, Ilajes are not Yorubas

PureFace1:
Who told you that?

You guys act like you know Ijebu history more than Ijebu people themselves.

Awolowo is an Ijebu man so you want to tell me Awolowo is no longer Yoruba?

You are very ignorant.

It is not only people that descended from Oduduwa lineage that bear Yoruba alone.

Yoruba mean people that migrated from Ile Ife in present day Osun state, to be a Yoruba at least you must have connection and trace your Origin to Ile ife.

I believe you're one of those people who believe oduduwa fell from the sky.

Ijebus are Jews who migrated from Sudan. Just as oduduwa migrated with his people from Saudi Arabia.

Ekealterego:
Same Oduduwa who was a Bini prince.

Oduduwa story is pure folklore.

No one can tell with certainty. What is certain is that the mothertongue of Ogu people is not Yoruba and not related to Yoruba in any way. They also do not see themselves as Yoruba.

And what are you going to do about this?