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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Nobody: 1:30pm On Jul 26, 2022
SmartyPants:


What part of the information do you find doubtful? I'd be happy to clarify.

Needless to say, this is all anecdotal, based on my many years of experience in this industry.

My question is how do we know that non-programming people don't do well in those foreign spaces when hired? Because I know all Nigerians are hard working.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 1:33pm On Jul 26, 2022
CSTRR:
The vacancies are so much that some engineers are getting 20 job invitations in a week.

None of those vacancies have a monthly salary of less than N500,000.

CSTRR:
You better learn tech.

Those that would get skilled enough will never know poverty.

I am not in tech and I have netted way more than that in a month. So which one is I better learn tech? I won’t learn it even at gunpoint. They can’t pressure me.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Jaqenhghar: 1:34pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:
I saw THIS THREAD on the frontpage and I must say the points there were very educational.





No be when electricity and internet dey dem dey do remote work?
In that shithole electricity and internet are perks that should only be enjoyed by the rich.
Besides we still have youths who believe that any job you dont go and do in an office space is not work

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by kunleiky(m): 1:35pm On Jul 26, 2022
Oh @pocohantas you followed that thread too.
Interesting
It got me thinking since. If we don't join hands in fixing this shattering economy, we are in a sorry state as a nation.
Cos, even if you're earning conveniently in USD and living in Nigeria. What happens when prices if goods escalate beyond what's bearable

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by SmartyPants(m): 1:35pm On Jul 26, 2022
truthsayer009:


My question is how do we know that non-programming people don't do well in those foreign spaces when hired? Because I know all Nigerians are hard working.

It's not about hard work.

1. For content writing, Nigerians generally don't write that well. Africans in general. You can find many large companies with several Nigerian programmers but not one single Nigerian writer despite the fact that there are more writers than programmers in Nigeria. Even a few reasonably successful Nigerian writers I've come across still have visible room for improvement.

2. I don't know why there aren't many Nigerians in customer support and design jobs. It could be that most Nigerians don't even know that these jobs are available.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by CSTRR: 1:36pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:




I am not in tech and I have netted way more than that in a month. So which one is I better learn tech? I won’t learn it even at gunpoint. They can’t pressure me.
Well, good.

All way na way. As long as it is legal.

It's the one I know I said.

And the Japa prospects too is very high and worth considering.

A skilled software engineer with experience, that knows data structures and algorithms very well (the tech equivalent of GMAT) will not stay in Nigeria for long.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by lexy2014: 1:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.

So any reason why you are shortchanging people and slashing their pay?

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by kunle75(m): 1:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
tensazangetsu20:
There's a lot. You could be a Salesforce admin. You could do marketing automation with tools like Salesforce marketing cloud or pardot. Their certifications are very highly valued. An entry level job in those fields will pay you more than even some senior devs in Nigeria sef and there's so much demand out there's it's so crazy. Research on tech platforms and no code tools there's always an administrative side to it which absolutely no programmer wants to use and touch and get good at those administrative tasks. Get insanely good and extremely dangerous and watch your fortunes change.


You're very apt and correct on this,servicenow is another admin software tool doing great now

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 1:38pm On Jul 26, 2022
Truth234:
pocohantas as a non-tech remote worker with a U.S. company, there are a lot of non-tech roles. However, what I found is they are also technical if you want to earn good pay.

I am a financial/economic analyst with a U.S.-based investment company. In fact, they increased my pay just a month into the job. It shows they value and need real talents.

My point exactly. Everything requires a little bit of tech. Which basically is familiarizing oneself with tools and softwares in your niche. The tech I am talking here is programming. We all can’t be programmers and people should stop acting like that is all to remote work.

Even customer support get levels to it.

Jaqenhghar:

No be when electricity and internet dey dem dey do remote work?
In that shithole electricity and internet are perks that should only be enjoyed by the rich.
Besides we still have youths who believe that any job you dont go and do in an office space is not work

Lol. Nigerians find a way to overcome. Bet9ja shops, hotels, fastfoods…etc. Sit there, find them something and plug laptop.

I used to be like that too. Thinking it was all about the four-corner office. They would all see the light.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Chidi2022: 1:40pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.
Animal.....

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 1:40pm On Jul 26, 2022
CSTRR:

Well, good.

All way na way. As long as it is legal.

It's the one I know I said.

And the Japa prospects too is very high and worth considering.

A skilled software engineer with experience, that knows data structures and algorithms very well (the tech equivalent of GMAT) will not stay in Nigeria for long.

All the tech bros I know that left Nigeria FINANCED themselves. As long as you are earning good money, you can save and japa. It isn’t about the tech, it is money they use to leave Nigeria.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Jaqenhghar: 1:43pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


My point exactly. Everything requires a little bit of tech to it. Which basically is familiarizing oneself with tools and softwares in your niche. The tech I am talking here is programming. We all can’t be programmers and people should stop acting like that is all to remote work.

Even customer support get levels to it.



Lol. Nigerians find a way to overcome. Bet9ja shops, hotels, fastfoods…etc. Sit there, find them something and plug laptop.

I used to be like that too. Thinking it was all about the four-corner office. They would all see the light.
My dear sister. My people will never see the light. I have given up on them. Make we just dey siddon dey look. If you see opportunity to run a eg no dely O .
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by CSTRR: 1:46pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


All the tech bros I know that left Nigeria FINANCED themselves. As long as you are earning good money, you can save and japa. It isn’t about the tech, it is money they use to leave Nigeria.
The ones I know got jobs abroad that gave them relocation.

They worked for a few months as remote, and the companies took them away.
Some were working for banks and still doing remote job.

Yes, ofcourse you are not wrong too.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by chiedozie198100: 1:46pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.

how can I get the job?

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 1:53pm On Jul 26, 2022
truthsayer009:


Even in Nigeria, only 5% of tech people had direct contact with employers for Interviews and got hired before 2020/2021. There are tech Agencies that made the remote work popular, because those guys handle outsourcing, taxes and legal expenses that may arise. So it is easier for those US companies to come in. I can bet you that majority of people working remotely on Nairaland got their job via an Agency. We need to have agencies to help boost other areas like Accounting, Law, Business Development, Customer Service etc.

Very enlightening. I heard of this agency that gives links to other jobs. Though people were complaining that their commission is too much.
It seems to be a problem with Nigerian supervisors.


If Agencies don't come in, it will never work. The average Nigerian employer doesn't even want you to find alternative source of income. They will make sure they block you from getting any remote jobs yourselves if they can. For example, jobs like Recruitment HR doesn't require any one to come to the office any more, you can be an HR for Amazon and be in Nigeria, all you need to do is schedule Interviews and design your house like Abroad House for video calls.

Lol! Your own must dey different. grin

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by alakara(m): 1:54pm On Jul 26, 2022
Seniorwriter:
The only non tech remote job that I can recommend is Technical Writing...
Though I'm here to read comments....



@Seniorwriter
Pls, can you mentor me on technical writing?
Thanks.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Truth234(m): 1:55pm On Jul 26, 2022
pocohantas:


My point exactly. Everything requires a little bit of tech. Which basically is familiarizing oneself with tools and softwares in your niche. The tech I am talking here is programming. We all can’t be programmers and people should stop acting like that is all to remote work.

Even customer support get levels to it.

I don't mean technology. I meant technicality. The remote jobs that paid well are those not easily picked up by citizens of those countries. Customer service, admin, etc roles are easily filled. The only reason foreigners are given those roles is because of lower pay. Whereas in high-skilled roles we get paid way better.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by hooge: 1:55pm On Jul 26, 2022
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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 1:58pm On Jul 26, 2022
Jaqenhghar:

My dear sister. My people will never see the light. I have given up on them. Make we just dey siddon dey look. If you see opportunity to run a eg no dely O .

Very true. I have stopped talking because sometimes they think you are just another motivational speaker. In fact, I have learned to protect my own trade secrets. All man for himself.

Truth234:


I don't mean technology. I meant technicality. The remote jobs that paid well are those not easily picked up by citizens of those countries. Customer service, admin, etc roles are easily filled. The only reason foreigners are given those roles is because of lower pay. Whereas in high-skilled roles we get paid way better.

I mixed that up. Yes we do, but still lesser than they would pay Americans or some Europeans. It remains the cheaper alternative for them, but a lot of money to a Nigerian.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by johnpablo541(m): 1:58pm On Jul 26, 2022
Remote working is bae, but the first few months are usually the hardest. I was almost frustrated after my first three months before I finally landed a gig.

But it gets easy with time, because clients would have seen that you have completed a lot of jobs and that puts you ahead of those with new profiles.

I believe there is more competition now than in 2021.

One advise is do not stick to one platform, I make use Upwork and Fiverr, but I prefer Upwork, but I seemed to have performed better on Fiverr this month than on Upwork.

I am planning on switching over from writing to Tech probably next year. A friend of mine is making a kill as a Sharepoint Administrator.



Attached is my earnings for July on Fiverr, I know it isn't much but it would motivate someone.

You can learn Copywriting from Venzal's thread, you don't need anyone to teach you. Just read everything on his thread on Email Copywriting.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by cococandy(f): 2:01pm On Jul 26, 2022
There are a bunch of remote doctors and nurses here . You just have to be licensed in USA which defeats the purpose for an international remote worker.
pocohantas:


We are talking of remote roles, Sir. Are they going to employ you as a remote doctor? Because the highest I have seen for people in healthcare is management of shifts and medical writing.
. cheesy
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Macdon245295(m): 2:02pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.
. Please can I work for you
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Jamesz12: 2:05pm On Jul 26, 2022
Please how can I reach you?



VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Beautifulemi(f): 2:07pm On Jul 26, 2022
chatinent:
I go use pidgin. No vex.
Thank you. I gained knowledge.
True true, time go reach when administrative work go disappear unto say AI go take over. The takeover is already in place.

Tech is the future.

And e dey easy to learn now because na the basics. Soon, it will be expensive because of the demands.

But what I think?
It will always look difficult if we keep calling it technology. Technology is actually that skill everyone has. My dummy thoughts tho.

Did a voice over as an amateur for an Indian couple and they were wanting more. And I am like..with this my yeye voice? Hehe.

Tried virtual assistance..with a faster speed rate of delivering 10k words in a day. Employer asked how I did it. I no tell am. That's my secret...pay me.

Opened a website for a man running a candy shop in 20minutes, designed and functional. Dude was all surprised. First guy charged him $4000 for 3 weeks. I charged $2k for few minutes. You can guess the rest. No bi say I sabi pass the first person, no. But I only learn things with AI these days...it just makes works easier.

For instance, there's a tool to do everything you do in an office for a week in minutes. What's really the need visiting? You snap the paper, it converts to Word. It computes..provides options for charts and many more. Then why do humans suffer?

So I used to draw when I was lil. Like I draw well. But later, I found one tool where you put the original picture and it paints it like hand drawn. What I do, I freelanced with it. You can hardly tell... My secret? Simple tool! Faster delivery!


Everybody has a skill. Try doing the lil graphic design you know...it's money.

Even if na only pidgin you sabi translate to, visit sites and offer to translate their webpages to Nigerian pidgin. They may not pay you at first...yeah, work as an intern. They will add you to translation team. Na CV bi that for next paying jobs.

I'm proud to say I am a contributor and developer at Google. Oya ask me what I did. Na just to do survey and review. Offered to translate too. grin No bi say I kuma do anything self. But that batch that year, I was enlisted as a contributor. But you needed to see how I boosted with “Developer at Google” during my Fiverr days.

Same with Wikipedia. I helped edited some profile. My name enter team from Nigeria that year. grin It was in my freelance CV, trust me.

I'm sorry but I like money... genuine money tho.

Just do it write and yes, boost about it in your CV.

Everyone has a skill.

I know of a dude online who says he has no skill..but he sends potatoes as love notes to emotionally depressed folks. Dude is a freaking millionaire.


I believe every skill is technical. You just need to know to apply it to meet the audience.


So many ways to make money..but it requires consistency.


Did I forget? I think the analogue age hasn't really passed so far we remain a developing country.

So cashing out it easy until tomorrow.

I no dey too webinar again...pay me N100k make I put skill into you. Trust me, e no go affect your normal jobs.
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Zulu2022: 2:08pm On Jul 26, 2022
tensazangetsu20:
There's a lot. You could be a Salesforce admin. You could do marketing automation with tools like Salesforce marketing cloud or pardot. Their certifications are very highly valued. An entry level job in those fields will pay you more than even some senior devs in Nigeria sef and there's so much demand out there's it's so crazy. Research on tech platforms and no code tools there's always an administrative side to it which absolutely no programmer wants to use and touch and get good at those administrative tasks. Get insanely good and extremely dangerous and watch your fortunes change.
you are the one that made sense here bro,heard much about this Salesforce, how do one as a newbie with any experience start its journey towards this skill
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by donestk(m): 2:09pm On Jul 26, 2022
Its here already. https://errands.ng is an example.

Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by ComputipsTechDe: 2:09pm On Jul 26, 2022
You can work remotely on https://kobogigs.com.ng

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Dharmie02: 2:09pm On Jul 26, 2022
tensazangetsu20:
There's a lot. You could be a Salesforce admin. You could do marketing automation with tools like Salesforce marketing cloud or pardot. Their certifications are very highly valued. An entry level job in those fields will pay you more than even some senior devs in Nigeria sef and there's so much demand out there's it's so crazy. Research on tech platforms and no code tools there's always an administrative side to it which absolutely no programmer wants to use and touch and get good at those administrative tasks. Get insanely good and extremely dangerous and watch your fortunes change.


Thank you so much. I am a stay at home mum and I work remotely as a customer support for a business in Nigeria. I totally love the remote idea,the pay and I'm not coding(Lol). I recently ,I came across Sales force admin and I have been thinking lately to enrol for it. Thank you for mentioning this.

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Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by pocohantas(f): 2:14pm On Jul 26, 2022
cococandy:
There are a bunch of remote doctors and nurses here . You just have to be licensed in USA which defeats the purpose for an international remote worker.

Thanks for this. Now I understand the question “Are you licensed to work in USA?” cheesy
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Iblex(m): 2:14pm On Jul 26, 2022
100k to learn. Your location bro
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 26, 2022
There are some remote opportunities for corporate lawyers sha
Re: Remote Work: Any Hope For Non-Tech Nigerians? by RepoMan007: 2:20pm On Jul 26, 2022
VeryWickedMan:
There are many non-tech remote jobs like customer care reps, sales executives, product managers/owners, software testers etc.

Pay is by experience level. $1k-$1.5k for beginners, $2k-$3.5k for mid and $5k+ for experienced roles depending on your field. Bear in mind that you have an 80% chance of being shortchanged if you have a Nigerian supervisor who will slash your pay and give you like 50% or less of these figures.


I supervise some African devs and I slash their salaries by more than 60% sometimes and divert it for myself. $500 is already big salary in Nigeria so any of them that complains gets kicked out at the next appraisal and replaced ASAP with someone who's willing to accept even less.
Don Corleone

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