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compton11:
so where did u see rape there?

"It was narrated from Salamah bin Muhabbiq that: the case of a man who had intercourse with the slave woman of his wife was referred to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), and he did not stipulate any legal punishment for him"
_Sunan Ibn Majah
English reference : Vol. 3, Book 20, Hadith 2552
Arabic reference : Book 20, Hadith 2649

Oh, so it is no longer rape when someone didn’t give consent? Oh I forgot, Muhammad was also guilty of the same same crime. He was caught pant down raping Maria Al-Qibitiyya, Hafsa’s slave, on Hafsa’s bed. So Muhammad has no moral right to have punished the man that did the same. Iru iro ni iborun

Plus do u know what we talking about before u put mouth?

Of course

this Hadith u posted, where was the name of the prophet mentioned there?

So are you saying those Muslims following the Hadith are misguided Muslims?

Rape of free women that is not your wife is like adultery and punishable by flogging,so the Hadith contradicted the teaching of Islam.

So in Islam adultery and rape are the same? Chai

advocatejare:
"It was narrated from Salamah bin Muhabbiq that: the case of a man who had intercourse with the slave woman of his wife was referred to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), and he did not stipulate any legal punishment for him"
_Sunan Ibn Majah
English reference : Vol. 3, Book 20, Hadith 2552
Arabic reference : Book 20, Hadith 2649





Oh, so it is no longer rape when someone didn’t give consent? Oh I forgot, Muhammad was also guilty of the same same crime. He was caught pant down raping Maria Al-Qibitiyya, Hafsa’s slave, on Hafsa’s bed. So Muhammad has no moral right to have punished the man that did the same. Iru iro ni iborun

oponu and u are doing as if Yahweh your father don't allow it to smash a slave that belongs to u, even the one that doesn't belong to u sef.

And Mary the Qoptic u talking about in that Hadith belongs to the prophet,she Even born a son for him.


[quote author=advocatejare post=115050425
Of course[/quote]oya tell me,what were we actually talking about?



[quote author=advocatejare post=115050425
So are you saying those Muslims following the Hadith are misguided Muslims?[/quote]not only misguided but wicked,how can u be raping a free women that doesn't belong to u.

That sounds like Bible stuff,and fake Hadith stuff though..

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered,29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives

Deuteronomy 22:28-29




I can deny the Hadith if I suspected it is fabricated but ain't no way u will deny the Bible verse.

advocatejare:
So in Islam adultery and rape are the same? Chai

if u do it to free woman that is not yours or your wife and Qur'an never say we should sleep with the slave woman that is not ours.

That means a slave woman is being use as prostitute.

compton11:
oponu ni Compton11 and u are doing as if Yahweh your father don't allow it to smash a slave that belongs to u, even the one that doesn't belong to u sef.

And Mary the Qoptic u talking about in that Hadith belongs to the prophet,she Even born a son for him.

If Maria Coptic was his wife, why then did he beg Hafsah not to tell other wives that he was caught pant down with Maria? Why did he swear never to sleep with her again? Until he lied that Allah has freed him from the oath?

If your other wife sees you sleeping with the other wives, how is that a big deal? That means your sex-addict false prophet raped the innocent Maria and her pregnant that was why he was ashamed and started swearing that he won’t sleep with her again!

Alailojuti ni Muhammad, atenuje lopa Muhamo

advocatejare:
If Maria Coptic was his wife, why then did he beg Hafsah not to tell other wives that he was caught pant down with Maria? Why did he swear never to sleep with her again? Until he lied that Allah has freed him from the oath?

fabricated Hadith,why shouldn't he be sleeping with her,ain't she not her belongings?


Abi Yahweh don't commanded that again?

advocatejare:
If your other wife sees you sleeping with the other wives, how is that a big deal? That means your sex-addict false prophet raped the innocent Maria and her pregnant that was why he was ashamed and started swearing that he won’t sleep with her again!

Hehehehe did Mary the Coptic complained to u about that?

Abi Moses don't commanded virgins to be kept for himself and his army again?

advocatejare:
Alailojuti ni Muhammad, atenuje lopa Muhamo

if u still insist that poison killed him even he died three years after that,sebi na sour drink killed your Jesus immediately with his dick dangling on cross

And u are doing as if Jesus Never did atenujẹ at Matthew house too

compton11:
fabricated Hadith,why shouldn't he be sleeping with her,ain't she not her belongings?

Anytime we expose you,‘you lie that it’s fabricated even though it’s a sahih Hadith written by Muslims, so are you saying that you sahih Hadith are fabricated? Or your Quran are Tafsir are fabricated?



"And when the Prophet confided to one of his wives a statement; and when she informed [another] of it and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored a part. And when he informed her about it, she said, Who told you this? He said, I was informed by the Knowing, the Acquainted."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 3)

"If you two [wives] repent to Allah, [it is best], for your hearts have deviated. But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 4)


It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.
Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959.




66.1 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriyaَ— when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [and finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed — byَ saying,َ‘Sheَ isَ unlawfulَ forَ me!’,َ seeking,َ byَ makingَ herَ unlawfulَ [forَ you],َ toَ pleaseَ yourَ wives?َ Andَ God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition.



If Maria was Muhammad’s wife and not a slave he raped on Hafsa’s bed, why did he swear not to ever sleep with her again?

Of course because he knew that he did a very shameful thing!
[b]

if u still insist that poison killed him even he died three years after that

If you claim that poison didn’t kill your false prophet, then you are saying that Muhammad is a liar for saying that he died from poisoned food (atenuje lopa Muhamo)

Muhammad dying from poison showed that he was a fabricator as he failed his proof of authenticity as stated in the Quran:

Muhammad claimed that his sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate and that his aorta was cut

quote]


[b]"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498[/b

[b]Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

advocatejare:
Anytime we expose you,‘you lie that it’s fabricated even though it’s a sahih Hadith written by Muslims, so are you saying that you sahih Hadith are fabricated? Or your Quran are Tafsir are fabricated?



"And when the Prophet confided to one of his wives a statement; and when she informed [another] of it and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored a part. And when he informed her about it, she said, Who told you this? He said, I was informed by the Knowing, the Acquainted."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 3)

"If you two [wives] repent to Allah, [it is best], for your hearts have deviated. But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants."
(QS. At-Tahrim 66: Verse 4)


It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.
Grade : Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959.




66.1 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriyaَ— when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [and finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed — byَ saying,َ‘Sheَ isَ unlawfulَ forَ me!’,َ seeking,َ byَ makingَ herَ unlawfulَ [forَ you],َ toَ pleaseَ yourَ wives?َ Andَ God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition.



If Maria was Muhammad’s wife and not a slave he raped on Hafsa’s bed, why did he swear not to ever sleep with her again?

Of course because he knew that he did a very shameful thing!
[b]

are u saying Yahweh don't allowed us to smash our slave again?




And they who guard their private parts


Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed


But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors
QURAN 25:5-7




[b]Even Yahweh collected his shared of Virgins from war Moses fought

advocatejare:
If you claim that poison didn’t kill your false prophet, then you are saying that Muhammad is a liar for saying that he died from poisoned food (atenuje lopa Muhamo)

oponu leyin ọdun mẹrin abi? ,the aim of poisoner is to kill u quickly not after four years

The same atenujẹ that led to Jesus death,it was during the atenujẹ that they captured him

advocatejare:
Muhammad dying from poison showed that he was a fabricator as he failed his proof of authenticity as stated in the Quran:

Jesus dying on cross after drinking sour wine showed he was ACCURSED as stated in the Bible


And how come Qur'an didn't called him a fabricator?

advocatejare:
Muhammad claimed that his sickness that led to his death was due to the poison he ate and that his aorta was cut


"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)

Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498[/b

[b]Sahih Bukhari Vol 5 book 59 Hadith 713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

your lying ass would be exposing today by linking the Qur'an and this Hadith



There are several problems with this assumption.

He said: AS IF my aorta is being cut off.

How does this mean it actually is being cut off?


How can one actually know if his aorta is actually being cut off?


If the Prophet did know his aorta was actually being cut off, why did he tell that to others? Wouldn't that make people think he is a false prophet as people claim he is?



Your dumb ass saw AS IF there and u Know concluded his orta was cut of?

And no 2 answer about this, the word used in Qur'an is وتين Al wateen.

While both the two Hadith u quoted used أبهر abhar.


They are different but both in the same place


Ahbar is a general term for the main vein in the body of which the aorta is part of (which is why it is translated such sometimes). Wateen is always Aorta, Ahbar doesn't necessarily mean aorta.



Plus this is the idiom the Arabs like to used especially when they are in pain.

advocatejare:
Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

this one is fabricated according to al- Albany but since u won't agree and let assume his aorta was cutten off according to this second Hadith then why did Quran says these about the prophet?



And indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is the absolute truth.

69:51


These are Allah’s revelations, which We are conveying to you accurately. And O Muhammad, most surely you are of those who have been sent as Messengers
2:252

compton11:
are u saying Yahweh don't allowed us to smash our slave again?




And they who guard their private parts


Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed

If he had divine right to slave, why then was he peeing in his pant and crying to his wives that he wouldn’t touch the slave girl anymore?

oponu ni Muhammad how could he have said that the poison he ate was what was killing him leyin ọdun mẹrin abi? ,the aim of poisoner is to kill u quickly not after four years

First and foremost, it was not everyone that ate the poisoned meat that died instantly and muhammad didnt die instantly because he didn't swallow the meat, and even despite that, the effect of the poison was still felt on his uvula and muhammad showing us that he didn't have any divine powers could not heal himself and Allah could not heal him, he had to get treated by cupping:

Muhammad didn't die on time because he didn't swallow the meat
When the apostle had rested, Zaynab d. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam prepared for him a roast lamb, having first inquired what joint he preferred. When she learned that it was the shoulder she put a lot of poison in it and poisoned the whole lamb. Then she brought it in and placed it before him. He took hold of the shoulder and chewed a morsel of it, but he did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Then he called for the woman and she confessed, and when he asked her what had induced her to do this she answered: ‘You know what you have done to my people. I said to myself, If he is a king I shall ease myself of him and if he is a prophet he will be informed (of what I have done).’ So the apostle let her off. Bishr died from what he had eaten.
Marwan b. Uthman b. Abu Sa’id b. al-Mu’alla told me: The apostle had said in his illness of which he was to die when Umm Bishr d. al-Bara came to visit him, ‘O Umm Bishr, this is the time in which I feel a deadly pain from what I ate with your brother at Khaybar.’ The Muslims considered that the apostle had died as a martyr in addition to the prophetic office with which God had honoured him.
- Sira Ibn Ishaq The Life of Muhammad, p. 516


Jabir ibn Abdullah used to say that a Jewess from the inhabitants of Khaybar poisoned a roasted sheep and presented it to the Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ ) who took its foreleg and ate from it. A group of his companions also ate with him. The Messenger of Allah then said: Take your hands away (from the food). The Messenger of Allah then sent someone to the Jewess and he called her. He said to her: Have you poisoned this sheep? The Jewess replied: Who has informed you? He said: This I foreleg which I have in my hand has informed me. She said: Yes. He said: What did you intend by it? She said: I thought if you were a prophet, it would not harm you; if you were not a prophet, we should rid ourselves of him (i.e. the Prophet). The Messenger of Allah then forgave her, and did not punish her. But some of his companions who ate it, died. The Messenger of Allah had himself cupped on his shoulder on account of that which he had eaten from the sheep. AbuHind cupped him with the horn and knife. He was a client of Banu Bayadah from the Ansar.
Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495

As you can see here, only some,( not all) of his companions that are the poisoned meat died. So Muhammad not dying immediately wasn't special

And how come Qur'an didn't called him a fabricator?

Quran said if Muhammad fabricated things, his aorta will be cut and his aorta was cut

There are several problems with this assumption.

He said: AS IF my aorta is being cut off.

How does this mean it actually is being cut off?

Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

If the Prophet did know his aorta was actually being cut off, why did he tell that to others? Wouldn't that make people think he is a false prophet as people claim he is?

Muhammad had short memory, he had forgotten that part of the Quran, you know he was always forgetting the Quran?

Sahih Muslim 788 b
"Aisha reported that the Messenger of Allah
listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a
man in the mosque. Thereupon he said:
May Allah have mercy upon him; he
reminded me of the verse which I had been
made to forget."

And indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is the absolute truth
These are Allah’s revelations, which We are conveying to you accurately. And O Muhammad, most surely you are of those who have been sent as Messengers
2:252

That is why you should believe when the Quran said Muhammad was lost and misguided

Muhammad was misguided and lost before Allah claimed to have sent him but Muslims always lie that Allah doesn't sent the misguided.


"We found you lost and guided [you]"

“wawajadaka ḍāllan fahad
-surah 93:7


The word used is ضَالًّا dallan, which means lost, astray, misguided. That was what Muhammad was before he was named a prophet by Waraqa !

advocatejare:
If he had divine right to slave, why then was he peeing in his pant and crying to his wives that he wouldn’t touch the slave girl anymore?

is Yahweh don't allowed us to sleep with our slave again?

advocatejare:
First and foremost, it was not everyone that ate the poisoned meat that died instantly and muhammad didnt die instantly because he didn't swallow the meat, and even despite that, the effect of the poison was still felt on his uvula and muhammad showing us that he didn't have any divine powers could not heal himself and Allah could not heal him, he had to get treated by cupping:

Muhammad didn't die on time because he didn't swallow the meat
When the apostle had rested, Zaynab d. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam prepared for him a roast lamb, having first inquired what joint he preferred. When she learned that it was the shoulder she put a lot of poison in it and poisoned the whole lamb. Then she brought it in and placed it before him. He took hold of the shoulder and chewed a morsel of it, but he did not swallow it. Bishr b. al-Bara b. Ma’rur who was with him took some of it as the apostle had done, but he swallowed it, while the apostle spat it out, saying, ‘This bone tells me that it is poisoned.’ Then he called for the woman and she confessed, and when he asked her what had induced her to do this she answered: ‘You know what you have done to my people. I said to myself, If he is a king I shall ease myself of him and if he is a prophet he will be informed (of what I have done).’ So the apostle let her off. Bishr died from what he had eaten.
Marwan b. Uthman b. Abu Sa’id b. al-Mu’alla told me: The apostle had said in his illness of which he was to die when Umm Bishr d. al-Bara came to visit him, ‘O Umm Bishr, this is the time in which I feel a deadly pain from what I ate with your brother at Khaybar.’ The Muslims considered that the apostle had died as a martyr in addition to the prophetic office with which God had honoured him.
- Sira Ibn Ishaq The Life of Muhammad, p. 516


Jabir ibn Abdullah used to say that a Jewess from the inhabitants of Khaybar poisoned a roasted sheep and presented it to the Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ ) who took its foreleg and ate from it. A group of his companions also ate with him. The Messenger of Allah then said: Take your hands away (from the food). The Messenger of Allah then sent someone to the Jewess and he called her. He said to her: Have you poisoned this sheep? The Jewess replied: Who has informed you? He said: This I foreleg which I have in my hand has informed me. She said: Yes. He said: What did you intend by it? She said: I thought if you were a prophet, it would not harm you; if you were not a prophet, we should rid ourselves of him (i.e. the Prophet). The Messenger of Allah then forgave her, and did not punish her. But some of his companions who ate it, died. The Messenger of Allah had himself cupped on his shoulder on account of that which he had eaten from the sheep. AbuHind cupped him with the horn and knife. He was a client of Banu Bayadah from the Ansar.
Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495

As you can see here, only some,( not all) of his companions that are the poisoned meat died. So Muhammad not dying immediately wasn't special

Arindin u don't need to swallow poison before it works.


It has to be ingested or licked to cause harm.

advocatejare:
Quran said if Muhammad fabricated things, his aorta will be cut and his aorta was cut

don't lie unto Qur'an, Qur'an did say his aorta will be cut.


It says we would have [/b]which means It is used to express an unreal or untrue idea, that would or could be true if something else were true.

And before that the word

The verse was stated as


[b]Had the [/b]Messenger made up something in Our Name,

advocatejare:
[b]Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

and where did Allah said he would cut his off his aorta if he invented a lie?

I want u to answer the bolded especially

advocatejare:
Muhammad had short memory, he had forgotten that part of the Quran, you know he was always forgetting the Quran?

Sahih Muslim 788 b
"Aisha reported that the Messenger of Allah
listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a
man in the mosque. Thereupon he said:
May Allah have mercy upon him; he
reminded me of the verse which I had been
made to forget."

mumu u saw made in the bolded,so how is that related to short memory?

advocatejare:
That is why you should believe when the Quran said Muhammad was lost and misguided

Muhammad was misguided and lost before Allah claimed to have sent him but Muslims always lie that Allah doesn't sent the misguided.


"We found you lost and guided [you]"

“wawajadaka ḍāllan fahad
-surah 93:7


The word used is ضَالًّا dallan, which means lost, astray, misguided. That was what Muhammad was [b]before he was named a prophet [/b]by Waraqa !

mumu the meaning there means Allah was aware of what he doesn't know about and guided him.

Does that supposed to mean he was into pagan worship before becomoa prophet?

compton11:
Arindin ni compton11 and Muhammad u don't need to swallow poison before it works.


It has to be ingested or licked to cause harm.

Ignorant one, some poison just need to touch your body and you’re a goner. Besides this one even touched Muhammad’s uvula and it was there causing its havoc till he died in agony and attributed his death to the poison

Sahih Muslim 26:5430
Anas reported that a Jewess came to Allah's Messenger ﷺ with poisoned mutton and he took of that what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: I had determined to kill you. Thereupon he said: Allah will never give you the power to do it. He (the narrator) said that they (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said: Should we not kill her? Thereupon he said: No. He (Anas) said: I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula Allah’s Messenger.

don't lie unto Qur'an, Qur'an did say his aorta will be cut.


It says we would have [/b]which means It is used to express an unreal or untrue idea, that would or could be true if something else were true.

And before that the word

The verse was stated as


[b]Had the [/b]Messenger made up something in Our Name,




and where did Allah said [b]he would cut his off his aorta if he invented a lie?

I want u to answer the bolded especially

English language is hard for you. Do you know what logic is? I’m sure you don’t. If someone say if you say false things (that is, fabrication) we would have cut your aorta. What it implies is that if your aorta is cut then you have said false things


"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"

(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)



Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.

Comptom11 is a mumu the meaning there means Allah was aware of what he doesn't know about and guided him.

Does that supposed to mean he was into pagan worship before becomoa prophet?

Muhammad was lost and misguided and into pagan practice before he had encounter with the jinn that pinned him down thrice in the cave.

Muhammad was misguided and lost before Allah claimed to have sent him but Muslims always lie that Allah doesn't sent the misguided.


"We found you lost and guided [you]"

“wawajadaka ḍāllan fahad
-surah 93:7


The word used is ضَالًّا dallan, which means lost, astray, misguided. That was what Muhammad was before he was named a prophet by Waraqa !


If Muhammad was not lost and misguided, what religion was he practicing for the first 40 years of his life before he had the violent encounter in the cave of Hira?

advocatejare:
Ignorant one, some poison just need to touch your body and you’re a goner. Besides this one even touched Muhammad’s uvula and it was there causing its havoc till he died in agony and attributed his death to the poison

Sahih Muslim 26:5430
Anas reported that a Jewess came to Allah's Messenger ﷺ with poisoned mutton and he took of that what had been brought to him (Allah's Messenger). (When the effect of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: I had determined to kill you. Thereupon he said: Allah will never give you the power to do it. He (the narrator) said that they (the Companion's of the Holy Prophet) said: Should we not kill her? Thereupon he said: No. He (Anas) said: I felt (the affects of this poison) on the uvula Allah’s Messenger.


English language is hard for you. Do you know what logic is? I’m sure you don’t. If someone say if you say false things (that is, fabrication) we would have cut your aorta. What it implies is that if your aorta is cut then you have said false things


"And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,"

(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 44)
َََََُّ

"We would have seized him by the right hand;"
(QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 45)
ََّْ ََََُُ
"Then We would have cut from him the aorta." (QS. Al-Haaqqa 69: Verse 46)



Sunan Abu Dawud 39:4495-4498
Narrated AbuSalamah: Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of AbuSalamah, and he did not mention the name of AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah). This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) ate of it and the people also ate. He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died. So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.





Muhammad was lost and misguided and into pagan practice before he had encounter with the jinn that pinned him down thrice in the cave.

Muhammad was misguided and lost before Allah claimed to have sent him but Muslims always lie that Allah doesn't sent the misguided.


"We found you lost and guided [you]"

“wawajadaka ḍāllan fahad
-surah 93:7


The word used is ضَالًّا dallan, which means lost, astray, misguided. That was what Muhammad was before he was named a prophet by Waraqa !


If Muhammad was not lost and misguided, what religion was he practicing for the first 40 years of his life before he had the violent encounter in the cave of Hira?

oponu ni Yahweh and Jesus the accursed.

That is the problem I have with u,u are ready to ask questions but turn blind to answer the one u were asked


If u can't be answering my questions, then don't engage me in debate.

compton11:
oponu ni compton11, Allah the Satan and the poisoned alatenuje false prophet that died in agony and whose death had no positive spiritual implication, he lived a useless life and failed in his mission of compiling the Quran.


That is the problem I have with u,u are ready to ask questions but turn blind to answer the one u were asked

Which question did you ask, if you ask questions without insults, you will get your answers but you must answer my questions first.

advocatejare:
oponu ni jesu, Yahweh the virgin booty collector and the sour drink alatenuje false Messiah that died in agony and whose death made him an ACCURSED and hell fire boy.







Which question did you ask, if you ask questions without insults, you will get your answers but you must answer my questions first.

my question is Yahweh allowed sex slavery or not?

compton11:
my question is Yahweh allowed sex slavery or not?

No.

My question to you is what religion was Muhammad practicing (for the Quran to have said he was lost) for the first 40 years of his life?

advocatejare:
No.

If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death

Leviticus 19:20



Explain

advocatejare:
My question to you is what religion was Muhammad practicing

he wasn't practising any religion before becoming a prophet just like Abraham and Moses but he used to condemn what the pagans of Mecca were doing then.

advocatejare:
(for the Quran to have said he was lost) for the first 40 years of his life?

the lost here means many things,like making mistake and be guided on his mistake just like the reason for the what is in surah 89.

Also he didn't have any religion before,so Allah guided him.

compton11:
If a man has sex with a slave girl whose freedom has never been purchased but who is committed to become another man’s wife, he must pay full compensation to her master. But since she is not a free woman, neither the man nor the woman will be put to death

Leviticus 19:20

You asked if Yahweh allowed sex slavery or not and I told you that the answer is no, then you brought out this verse. This is not talking about allowing sex slavery. There was not a command that people should have sex with their slaves. That was what the word used is “if” . So it wasn’t a commmand or what what was expected as a legal right unlike what is obtained in your Quran where Muslims are given an express permission to sleep with their slaves and keep sex slaves


Successful indeed are the believers Who are humble in their prayers, And who shun vain conversation, And who are payers of the poor-due; And who guard their modesty - Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy
-Quran 23:1-6


And those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,
-Quran 70:29-30

Allah even gives you the right to sleep with married slaves :

Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Quran 4:23-24

Explain
he wasn't practising any religion before becoming a prophet just like Abraham and Moses but he used to condemn what the pagans of Mecca were doing then.

There was no God’s established religion during the time of Moses and Abraham but after then, all other prophets that you also claimed are you prophets in Islam, served Yahweh. They went and serve Yahweh in the temple.

Jesus that Muhammad claimed to be the successor of went into the temple as a child to serve God, he was never lost and misguided like the Quran said Muhammad was.

the lost here means many things,like making mistake and be guided on his mistake just like the reason for the what is in surah 89.

You have not told us the mistakes he made.

How he continued his Quraysh idolatry tradition in the worship of Hubal/Allah in the Quran

How he used to go into the caves before he claimed to have become a prophet (when he was still lost and misguided) to worship Allah his tribal god in the caves until one day when he had encounter with the entity that pinned him down 3 times before he was taken to Waraqa who then pronounced him a prophet

advocatejare:
You asked if Yahweh allowed sex slavery or not and I told you that the answer is no, then you brought out this verse. This is not talking about allowing sex slavery. There was not a command that people should have sex with their slaves. That was what the word used is “if” . So it wasn’t a commmand or what what was expected as a legal right unlike what is obtained in your Quran where Muslims are given an express permission to sleep with their slaves and keep sex slaves

the word allow is what I asked not commanded,don't twist the word.the allow is In the Quran concerning concubines/sex slavery.

If it is not allowed, Yahweh would condemn it,so if the slave girl u are fvcking is not bethroned to another man,then no punishment,so tell me he doesn't permit that.



If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to go free as male servants do.If she does not please the master who has

selected her for himsel[/b]f,he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her


Exodus 21:7-8

Ojuntana:
Successful indeed are the believers Who are humble in their prayers, And who shun vain conversation, And who are payers of the poor-due; And who guard their modesty - [b]Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy
-Quran 23:1-6



And those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,
-Quran 70:29-30

yeah Islam allow it just like Bible, instead of taking using them as prostitute to multiple men and Islam also allowed marry them.

Abraham, Solomon, David and so on had sex slave and Yahweh never condemn it.

Ojuntana:
Allah even gives you the right to sleep with married slaves :

Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Quran 4:23-24

I don't know where u see sleep with there cos Allah was mentioning the people that cannot be Marry to.

u see Allah was mentioning those who cannot be Marry to except a slave,he now said all those beyond the people he mentioned (except-excluding slave women) are lawful to us for marriage.


Because slave can also be married to in Islam.

Ojuntana:
There was no God’s established religion during the time of Moses and Abraham but after then, all other prophets that you also claimed are you prophets in Islam, served Yahweh. They went and serve Yahweh in the temple.

this is lie,they don't need to have God established religion, plus all prophets worship one God and they commanded people of not worshipping idols.

Plus during the prophehood of Abraham and Moses, Bible said they worship God,that is religion.

Ojuntana:
Jesus that Muhammad claimed to be the successor of went into the temple as a child to serve God, he was never lost and misguided like the Quran said Muhammad was.

yeah cos during his time, idolatary wasn't rampant in isreal plus the like of Moses, Elijah, Samuel and so on have eradicated idolatary in the Land of isreal.


Or do u read any evidence of rampant idolatary during the time of Jesus in isreal?

Ojuntana:
You have not told us the mistakes he made.

one of it was during the time a blind poor man called Abdullah ibn maktum came to accept Islam from him when the prophet was preaching to the Mecca Chieftains,Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came along and asked Muhammad about something.the prophet did not want to turn his attention away from the chieftains and frowned at ibn Umm Maktum. Allah admonished prophet Muhammad for this action

Ojuntana:
How he continued his Quraysh idolatry tradition in the worship of Hubal/Allah in the Quran

How he used to go into the caves before he claimed to have become a prophet (when he was still lost and misguided) to worship Allah his tribal god in the caves until one day when he had encounter with the entity that pinned him down 3 times before he was taken to Waraqa who then pronounced him a prophet

The reason why he used to visit the mount hira. Mostly, he was thinking and meditating on the Greatness of God, and seeking to escape the social ills that dominated Meccan society at the time, including abuse and neglect of women, idolatry, an unfair balance of wealth, and abuse of those living in poverty




Christians used to visit mountain,so if I visit the same mountain,does that mean I'm worshipping in Christiandom way?

compton11:
the word allow is what I asked not commanded,don't twist the word.the allow is In the Quran concerning concubines/sex slavery.

If it is not allowed, Yahweh would condemn it,so if the slave girl u are fvcking is not bethroned to another man,then no punishment,so tell me he doesn't permit that.



If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to go free as male servants do.If she does not please the master who has

selected her for himsel[/b]f,he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her


Exodus 21:7-8

yeah Islam allow it just like Bible, instead of taking using them as prostitute to multiple men and Islam also allowed marry them.

Abraham, Solomon, David and so on had sex slave and Yahweh never condemn it.


I don't know where u see [b]sleep with there cos Allah was mentioning the people that cannot be Marry to.

u see Allah was mentioning those who cannot be Marry to except a slave,he now said all those beyond the people he mentioned (except-excluding slave women) are lawful to us for marriage.


Because slave can also be married to in Islam.


this is lie,they don't need to have God established religion, plus all prophets worship one God and they commanded people of not worshipping idols.

Plus during the prophehood of Abraham and Moses, Bible said they worship God,that is religion.


yeah cos during his time, idolatary wasn't rampant in isreal plus the like of Moses, Elijah, Samuel and so on have eradicated idolatary in the Land of isreal.


Or do u read any evidence of rampant idolatary during the time of Jesus in isreal?




one of it was during the time a blind poor man called Abdullah ibn maktum came to accept Islam from him when the prophet was preaching to the Mecca Chieftains,Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came along and asked Muhammad about something.the prophet did not want to turn his attention away from the chieftains and frowned at ibn Umm Maktum. Allah admonished prophet Muhammad for this action




The reason why he used to visit the mount hira. Mostly, he was thinking and meditating on the Greatness of God, and seeking to escape the social ills that dominated Meccan society at the time, including abuse and neglect of women, idolatry, an unfair balance of wealth, and abuse of those living in poverty




Christians used to visit mountain,so if I visit the same mountain,does that mean I'm worshipping in Christiandom way?

Taqiyya Master. Why are you quoting me and putting my moniker on things I never said. Is your brain doing overheating?

You that lied against your Master Muhammad

compton11:
the word allow is what I asked not commanded,don't twist the word.the allow is In the Quran concerning concubines/sex slavery.

So if FRSC says that if you drive a car with an expired driver’s license, you will be fined N10,000 does that mean that FRSC has allowed driving without license?

advocatejare:

So if FRSC says that if you drive a car with an expired driver’s license, you will be fined N10,000 does that mean that FRSC has allowed driving without license?

your logic doesn't related thought,if the slave have not bethroned nkọ,then no punishment for the man that fvcked her.

Concerning picture Qur'an 55:72,it is reward for the Muslim in Janna and u are doing as if Yahweh never collected his own share of earthly virgins from Moses.


What is Christian enjoyment sef if u go to your paradise?

Ojuntana:
Taqiyya Master. Why are you quoting me and putting my moniker on things I never said. Is your brain doing overheating?

You that lied against your Master Muhammad

my fault bro and shut the fvck up and u are doing as if u can't make mistake.

advocatejare:
You asked if Yahweh allowed sex slavery or not and I told you that the answer is no, then you brought out this verse. This is not talking about allowing sex slavery. There was not a command that people should have sex with their slaves. That was what the word used is “if” . So it wasn’t a commmand or what what was expected as a legal right unlike what is obtained in your Quran where Muslims are given an express permission to sleep with their slaves and keep sex slaves

the word allow is what I asked not commanded,don't twist the word.the allow is In the Quran concerning concubines/sex slavery.

If it is not allowed, Yahweh would condemn it,so if the slave girl u are fvcking is not bethroned to another man,then no punishment,so tell me he doesn't permit that.



If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to go free as male servants do.If she does not please the master who has

selected her for himsel[/b]f,he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her


Exodus 21:7-8

advocatejare:
Successful indeed are the believers Who are humble in their prayers, And who shun vain conversation, And who are payers of the poor-due; And who guard their modesty - [b]Save from their wives or the (slaves) that their right hands possess, for then they are not blameworthy
-Quran 23:1-6



And those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (then) they are not to be blamed,
-Quran 70:29-30

yeah Islam allow it just like Bible, instead of taking using them as prostitute to multiple men and Islam also allowed marry them.

Abraham, Solomon, David and so on had sex slave and Yahweh never condemn it.

advocatejare:
Allah even gives you the right to sleep with married slaves :

Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Quran 4:23-24

I don't know where u see sleep with there cos Allah was mentioning the people that cannot be Marry to.

u see Allah was mentioning those who cannot be Marry to except a slave,he now said all those beyond the people he mentioned (except-excluding slave women) are lawful to us for marriage.


Because slave can also be married to in Islam.

advocatejare:
There was no God’s established religion during the time of Moses and Abraham but after then, all other prophets that you also claimed are you prophets in Islam, served Yahweh. They went and serve Yahweh in the temple.

this is lie,they don't need to have God established religion, plus all prophets worship one God and they commanded people of not worshipping idols.

Plus during the prophehood of Abraham and Moses, Bible said they worship God,that is religion.

advocatejare:
Jesus that Muhammad claimed to be the successor of went into the temple as a child to serve God, he was never lost and misguided like the Quran said Muhammad was.

yeah cos during his time, idolatary wasn't rampant in isreal plus the like of Moses, Elijah, Samuel and so on have eradicated idolatary in the Land of isreal.


Or do u read any evidence of rampant idolatary during the time of Jesus in isreal?

advocatejare:
You have not told us the mistakes he made.

one of it was during the time a blind poor man called Abdullah ibn maktum came to accept Islam from him when the prophet was preaching to the Mecca Chieftains,Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came along and asked Muhammad about something.the prophet did not want to turn his attention away from the chieftains and frowned at ibn Umm Maktum. Allah admonished prophet Muhammad for this action

advocatejare:
How he continued his Quraysh idolatry tradition in the worship of Hubal/Allah in the Quran

How he used to go into the caves before he claimed to have become a prophet (when he was still lost and misguided) to worship Allah his tribal god in the caves until one day when he had encounter with the entity that pinned him down 3 times before he was taken to Waraqa who then pronounced him a prophet

The reason why he used to visit the mount hira. Mostly, he was thinking and meditating on the Greatness of God, and seeking to escape the social ills that dominated Meccan society at the time, including abuse and neglect of women, idolatry, an unfair balance of wealth, and abuse of those living in poverty




Christians used to visit mountain,so if I visit the same mountain,does that mean I'm worshipping in Christiandom way?

compton11:
Concerning picture Qur'an 55:72,it is reward for the Muslim in Janna and u are doing as if Yahweh never collected his own share of earthly virgins from Moses.


What is Christian enjoyment sef if u go to your paradise?

Everything about Allah is sex sex and sex, that is how he said that he breathed his spirit(Ruh) into Maryam’s vagina (farjaha) and got her pregnant in the process. Only the devil will promise you eternity of sexual orgies

advocatejare:
Everything about Allah is sex sex and sex, that is how he said that he breathed his spirit(Ruh) into Maryam’s vagina (farjaha) and got her pregnant in the process. Only the devil will promise you eternity of sexual orgies

oga which one is sex sex again?

Is sex not part of life or u don't fvck?

Moses, Solomon, David, Abraham and so on sex multiple women in their life.



And u using wrong translation for Qur'an 21:92?


And also recall the woman who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and made her and her son a Sign to the whole world.


And when did u become Arabic scholar?



Unlike Bible



The angel said to Mary, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you.



Holy spirit wan fvck?

advocatejare:
Everything about Allah is sex sex and sex, that is how he said that he breathed his spirit(Ruh) into Maryam’s vagina (farjaha) and got her pregnant in the process. Only the devil will promise you eternity of sexual orgies

oga which one is sex sex again?

Is sex not part of life or u don't fvck?

Moses, Solomon, David, Abraham and so on sex multiple women in their life.



And u using wrong translation for Qur'an 21:92?


And also recall the woman who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and made her and her son a Sign to the whole world.



Ati arabinrin to sọ abẹ rẹ,so u want the translator translated it to obo or Virgina?




No, because the term "farju" is used for both men and women

Example is

˹O Prophet!˺ Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their chastity. That is purer for them. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what they do.

The word "furuj" was used there, that's plurah for farju.


Are u saying Mary wasn't actually a virgin according to Qur'an?


She said: 'O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has ever touched me?'

Qur'an 3:47



And when did u become Arabic scholar?



Unlike Bible



The angel said to Mary, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you.



Holy spirit wan fvck?

compton11:
oga which one is sex sex again?

Is sex not part of life or u don't fvck?

Moses, Solomon, David, Abraham and so on sex multiple women in their life.

We are talking about your filthy sex party “paradise” where Allah will be watching all of you as you all tire yourself out of sexual orgies

And u using wrong translation for Qur'an 21:92?


And also recall the woman who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and made her and her son a Sign to the whole world.



Ati arabinrin to sọ abẹ rẹ,so u want the translator translated it to obo or Virgina?




No, because the term "farju" is used for both men and women

Example is

˹O Prophet!˺ Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their chastity. That is purer for them. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what they do.

The word "furuj" was used there, that's plurah for farju.


Are u saying Mary wasn't actually a virgin according to Qur'an?

The Arabic word for Vagina is farjaha, Muslim translators deliberately translated Farjaha to chastity in order to hide the truth.

Quran 21:91
wa-allatī aḥṣanat farjahā fanafakhnā fīhā min rūḥinā wajaʿalnāhā wa-ib'nahā āyatan lil'ʿālamīna

Quran 66:12
Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena



Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

There are many words for chastity in Arabic language, farjaha is not one of them:

بَتوليّة [batūliyya] means celibacy or virginity

طُهْر [ṭuhr] means purity



The word the Quran said Maryam guarded was farjaha which means ‘her cleft’ when cleft is used for a woman it means vagina because the female sex organs looks like 2 clefts/slits

In Biology if the word فَرْج Faraj/Farj is used it means cleft, which if used for a non-human means slit/an opening.



To further prove to you that فَرْجَهَ means vagina i will show u from your hadiths where the word was used to refer to vagina

فَرْجِهَا وَرَوَى سَعِيدٌ أَيْضًا : عَنْ عَلِيٍّ نَحْوَهُ , وَزَادَ : { وَبِهَا قَرَنٌ , فَزَوْجُهَا بِالْخِيَارِ , فَإِنْ مَسَّهَا فَلَهَا اَلْمَهْرُ بِمَا اِسْتَحَلَّ مِنْ

Sa'id (bin Mansur) also reported something similar from 'Ali (RA) and added:
"And (if) she has something like a horn (Qarn) (coming out of her vagina), her husband then has the right to divorce her or keep her. And if he had intercourse with her, she gets her dowry for the intercourse her husband has had."

Bulugh al-Maram Book 8, Hadith 1021

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنْ بَعْضِ، أَزْوَاجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَ إِذَا أَرَادَ مِنَ الْحَائِضِ شَيْئًا أَلْقَى عَلَى فَرْجِهَا ثَوْبً

Narrated One of the Wives of the Prophet:
Ikrimah reported on the authority of one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) saying: When the Prophet (ﷺ) wanted to do something (i.e. kissing, embracing) with (his) menstruating wife, he would put a garment on her private part.
Sunan Abi Dawud 272

She said: 'O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has ever touched me?'

Qur'an 3:47



And when did u become Arabic scholar?



Unlike Bible



The angel said to Mary, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you.



Holy spirit wan fvck?

I laugh at your ignorance. Holy spirit coming upon people in the Bible had nothing to do with filthiness like your Allah, it means the power of God descended upon them:

Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Holy Spirit came upon:
Othniel (Judges 3:9-10)

Gideon (Judges 6:34)

Epitaph (Judges 11:29)

Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6, 19; 15:14)

Samuel (1 Samuel 10:6-10; 16:13-14)

Saul (1 Samuel 19:20-23)

David (1 Samuel 23:1).

And the word translated as "overshadow" is ἐπισκιάσει (episkiasei) which means to enveloped by God's glorious presence which was not the first place such word was used in the Bible to denote the presence of God and had nothing to do with sexual intercourse like your sexual immoral god.

ἐπισκιάσει was also used in matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Luke 9:34
While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

But same can't be said of your immoral god who boasted about blowing his spirit into a lady's vagina

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

advocatejare:
We are talking about your filthy sex party “paradise” where all of you will be watching all of you as you all tire yourself out of sexual orgies

what are Christians be doing in paradise?



Or u think Solomon that fvcked multiple women on Earth won't like to do the same in heaven?


Even the sons of god from heaven came to fvck the daughter of men on the earth


And u think those sons won't like to fvck.

advocatejare:
The Arabic word for Vagina is farjaha, Muslim translators deliberately translated Farjaha to chastity in order to hide the truth. [/b]

problem is u don't understand Arabic and u are arguing.

the HA u put at the end is even "her" a posseive pronoun.

And the word farju was even also used for men in the Qur'an,the common word the Arabs used for vagina مهبل.



Farju means private part and it is used for both men and women,so he who guard her private part guard her Chasity!

advocatejare:
Quran 21:91
wa-allatī aḥṣanat farjahā fanafakhnā fīhā min rūḥinā wajaʿalnāhā wa-ib'nahā āyatan lil'ʿālamīna

Quran 66:12
Wamaryama ibnata AAimrana allatee ahsanat farjaha fanafakhna feehi min roohina wasaddaqat bikalimati rabbiha wakutubihi wakanat mina alqaniteena



Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

There are many words for chastity in Arabic language, farjaha is not one of them:

yeah u right there are many words for chastity but so u know farju was Also used for men?


And the word Quran used was Also used for Mary.

advocatejare:
بَتوليّة [batūliyya] means celibacy or virginity

طُهْر [ṭuhr] means purity

Arabic teacher


Virgin is among the chastity,a person that doesn't involve in extramarital sex is chastity.

So these people are guiding their private part

So these people are called محصنات (muhsanat) in Arabic and what they are guiding is their Private part فرج (farju).

advocatejare:
The word the Quran said Maryam guarded was farjaha which means ‘her cleft’ when cleft is used for a woman it means vagina because the female sex organs looks like 2 clefts/slits

In Biology if the word فَرْج Faraj/Farj is used it means cleft, which if used for a non-human means slit/an opening.



To further prove to you that فَرْجَهَ means vagina i will show u from your hadiths where the word was used to refer to vagina

فَرْجِهَا وَرَوَى سَعِيدٌ أَيْضًا : عَنْ عَلِيٍّ نَحْوَهُ , وَزَادَ : { وَبِهَا قَرَنٌ , فَزَوْجُهَا بِالْخِيَارِ , فَإِنْ مَسَّهَا فَلَهَا اَلْمَهْرُ بِمَا اِسْتَحَلَّ مِنْ

Sa'id (bin Mansur) also reported something similar from 'Ali (RA) and added:
"And (if) she has something like a horn (Qarn) (coming out of her vagina), her husband then has the right to divorce her or keep her. And if he had intercourse with her, she gets her dowry for the intercourse her husband has had."

Bulugh al-Maram Book 8, Hadith 1021

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادٌ، عَنْ أَيُّوبَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنْ بَعْضِ، أَزْوَاجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَ إِذَا أَرَادَ مِنَ الْحَائِضِ شَيْئًا أَلْقَى عَلَى فَرْجِهَا ثَوْبً

Narrated One of the Wives of the Prophet:
Ikrimah reported on the authority of one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) saying: When the Prophet (ﷺ) wanted to do something (i.e. kissing, embracing) with (his) menstruating wife, he would put a garment on her private part.
Sunan Abi Dawud 272

Oga the correct translation for farju is private part cos it was used for both men and women in Qur'an except if u want to say men have Virgina



And if u guard your private part,then u are Chasity.

advocatejare:
I laugh at your ignorance. Holy spirit coming upon people in the Bible had nothing to do with filthiness like your Allah, it means the power of God descended upon them:

Acts 1:8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

Acts 2:4
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Holy Spirit came upon:
Othniel (Judges 3:9-10)

Gideon (Judges 6:34)

Epitaph (Judges 11:29)

Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6, 19; 15:14)

Samuel (1 Samuel 10:6-10; 16:13-14)

Saul (1 Samuel 19:20-23)

David (1 Samuel 23:1).

And the word translated as "overshadow" is ἐπισκιάσει (episkiasei) which means to enveloped by God's glorious presence which was not the first place such word was used in the Bible to denote the presence of God and had nothing to do with sexual intercourse like your sexual immoral god.

ἐπισκιάσει was also used in matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Luke 9:34
While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud.

i laughed and breathing a spirit into her has to do with sexual?

And you are doing as if Yahweh don't breath a spirit into people.

because he never came to know the God who shaped him, who breathed into him an active soul and a living spirit.

Book of wisdom 15:11

Catholic book though, Protestant don remove am.

advocatejare:
But same can't be said of your immoral god who boasted about blowing his spirit into a lady's vagina

Sura 21:91
Wa-allati [and who] ahsanat [guarded] farjaha [vágina] fanafakhnā [so we breathed] feeha [therein] min [of] ruhina [our spirit] waja [and we] alnāhā [made her] wa-ibnahā [and her son] ayatan [a sign/verse] lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].

where did Qur'an says they Allah blew spirit into her Virgina?

compton11:
what are Christians be doing in paradise?

Praising God

Or u think Solomon that fvcked multiple women on Earth won't like to do the same in heaven?


Even the sons of god from heaven came to fvck the daughter of men on the earth

Our own God didn’t promise us paradise of orgy and pornography

the HA u put at the end is even "her" a posseive pronoun.

Her vagina

And the word farju was even also used for men in the Qur'an,the common word the Arabs used for vagina مهبل.

When used for women it means vagina

Farju means private part and it is used for both men and women,so he who guard her private part guard her Chasity!

He guarded her vagina and still Allah breathed his spirit into her vagina

i laughed and breathing a spirit into her has to do with sexual?

Not breathing a spirit into her, but into her vagina

And you are doing as if Yahweh don't breath a spirit into people.

Yahweh never claimed to have breathed his spirit into peoples vagina and got them pregnant in the process

because he never came to know the God who shaped him, who breathed into him an active soul and a living spirit.

Book of wisdom 15:11

Catholic book though, Protestant don remove am.

Show me where breathe into her vagina is written in your so called book of wisdom!

where did Qur'an says they Allah blew spirit into her Virgina?

Is Allah no longer the one talking in the Quran?

Wa-allati [and who]
ahsanat [guarded]
farjaha [vágina]

fanafakhnā [so we breathed]
feeha [therein]
min [of]
ruhina [our spirit]

waja [and we]
alnāhā [made her]
wa-ibnahā [and her son]
ayatan [a sign/verse]
lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].
-Quran 21:91

advocatejare:
Praising God

oti da

advocatejare:
Our own God didn’t promise us paradise of orgy and pornography

but Solomon and the heaven sons of god will like to fvcked though.

advocatejare:
Her vagina

her private part though cos farju was Also used for men.

advocatejare:
When used for women it means vagina

and when used for men nkọ ooo?

advocatejare:
He guarded her vagina and still Allah breathed his spirit into her vagina

pastor jare,e bẹru Olohun, stop misquoting

advocatejare:
Not breathing a spirit into her, but into her vagina

advocatejare:
Yahweh never claimed to have breathed his spirit into peoples vagina and got them pregnant in the process

but he sent holy spirit to raga bo Maria.

advocatejare:
Show me where breathe into her vagina is written in your so called book of wisdom!

which one is my so called book of wisdom?

Is book of wisdom not in Christiandom again?

advocatejare:
Is Allah no longer the one talking in the Quran?

Wa-allati [and who]
ahsanat [guarded]
farjaha [vágina]

fanafakhnā [so we breathed]
feeha [therein]
min [of]
ruhina [our spirit]

waja [and we]
alnāhā [made her]
wa-ibnahā [and her son]
ayatan [a sign/verse]
lil’ʿālamīna [for the world].
-Quran 21:91

وَٱلَّتِيٓ أَحۡصَنَتۡ فَرۡجَهَا فَنَفَخۡنَا فِيهَا مِن رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلۡنَٰهَا وَٱبۡنَهَآ ءَايَةٗ لِّلۡعَٰلَمِينَ



And We breathed into her of Our spirit



Oga mistranslating won't help u especially when u don't understand Arabic.

compton11:
oti da


her private part though cos farju was Also used for men.



and when used for men nkọ ooo?

When used for men it means penis as highlighted in this Hadith where Muhammad was sprinkling water on his farj



Mishkat al-Masabih 361
Al-Hakam b. Sufyan said that when the Prophet passed water he performed ablution and sprinkled his penis. Abu Dawud and Nasa’i transmitted it.
وَعَن الحكم بن سُفْيَان قَالَ: كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ إِذَا بَالَ تَوَضَّأَ وَنَضَحَ فَرْجَهُ. رَوَاهُ أَبُو دَاوُد وَالنَّسَائِيّ
صَحِيح (الألباني) حكم :
Reference : Mishkat al-Masabih 361
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 73

And We breathed into her of Our spirit

Oga mistranslating won't help u especially when u don't understand Arabic.

Into her vagina (farjaha) why did you remove farjaha?

Your paradise is a sex party and pornography place where each Muslims will be sleeping with 72 heavenly wives and will be given the strength of a hundred men. Kai

Even Muhammad's followers were amazed about how they will manage to be having sex with 72 wives and as usual he gave them another fantasy 

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2536
Anas narrated that the Prophet (s.a.w) said:
"The believer shall be given in paradise such and such strength in [lintercourse ." it was said: "O Messenger of Allah! And will he able to do that?" He said: "He will be given the strength of a hundred."


Is that how 72 men will be bunking your women in your filthy paradise too? It will be an eye sore?

Or what sexual fantasies does Allah have in place for your women in his brothel paradise?