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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:25pm On Aug 03, 2022
ChristoBam:

Messi wan score 15 this year? It's probably more because of these devilish youngsters like Mbappe and Haaland. Make it more difficult for them to meet it.

Despite his average form last season, he scored 5....repeating that same 5 this season moves him very close to CR7 record, and don't forget that he's 2 years younger.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 4:29pm On Aug 03, 2022
afrodoc2:


Okantable times. cry
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Starboytwo(m): 4:35pm On Aug 03, 2022
But it’s Messi showing sign of decline overall using the just concluded season stats to judge. Ronaldo is 37 but he’s fitter than Messi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:39pm On Aug 03, 2022
Starboytwo:
But it’s Messi showing sign of decline overall using the just concluded season stats to judge. Ronaldo is 37 but he’s fitter than Messi.

Ronaldo will play till he’s 40+.

Zlatan is still playing at 41 and he’s nowhere compared to Ronaldo when it comes to body discipline and fitness routine.

If Messi(2 years younger) was the one leading Ronaldo with 15 CL goals, I would still back Cristiano to surpass Messi because of the sheer drive and determination.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:41pm On Aug 03, 2022
Starboytwo:
But it’s Messi showing signs of decline overall using the just concluded season stats to judge. Ronaldo is 37 but he’s fitter than Messi.

True.

But Ronaldo has been available for transfer for like a month now and no single bid has been reported, If Messi becomes available tomorrow Barcelona will gladly re-sign him.

And Ronaldo has always bn fitter than Messi since 2006, it didn't stop Messi from doing his things.....no be by fitter.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:50pm On Aug 03, 2022
Starboytwo:
But it’s Messi showing sign of decline overall using the just concluded season stats to judge. Ronaldo is 37 but he’s fitter than Messi.

If you are fitter but scoring your goals in Europa League but the other person who is not fit is scoring his goals in the Champions League who you help?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:50pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


True.

But Ronaldo has been available for transfer for like a month now and no single bid has been reported, If Messi becomes available tomorrow Barcelona will gladly re-sign him.

And Ronaldo has always bn fitter than Messi since 2006, it didn't stop Messi from doing his things.....no be by fitter.






I think his point is that messi won't deliver elite goal scoring numbers going forward especially playing in a Mbappe-Neymar/another striker (like the Etikite guy) attack. Messi is getting more withdrawn from the box-18 as he ages hence it makes it unlikely that he will get higher goals tally than a Ronaldo (who plays as a 9 now) as both ages.

It's not about their overall play but more about how realistic it is for Messi to top Ronaldo UCL goals record with his more withdrawn attacking role.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:55pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


I think his point is that messi won't deliver elite goal scoring numbers going forward especially playing in a Mbappe-Neymar/another striker (like the Etikite guy) attack. Messi is getting more withdrawn from the box-18 as he ages hence it makes it unlikely that he will get higher goals tally than a Ronaldo (who plays as a 9 now) as both ages.

It's not about their overall play but more about how realistic it is for Messi to top Ronaldo UCL goals record with his more withdrawn attacking role.

CR7 did not get to his level by leaving things to chance the way you guys are doing.

It seems you guys don’t understand the mindset that turned him from just another showboating winger to a goal machine.

He is going to try do his utmost to ensure he stays ahead rather than leaving everything in Messi’s hands to decline.

MAYBE Messi won’t catch him o but Ronaldo aims to make sure of it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:56pm On Aug 03, 2022
afrodoc2:


If you are fitter but scoring your goals in Europa League but the other person who is not fit is scoring his goals in the Champions League who you help?

Lol. It's just for one season na abi won't United make top4 next season?

It's very likely this season would be the last for Ronaldo though in elite level football unless baba performs well in the ETH set-up.

Messi likely has this season and next season too and he can hardly score up to 15 UCL goals in those 2 seasons. Messi and Ronaldo UCL goals tally per season has been around 5-6goals on average for the past 3-4 seasons.

Ronaldo UCL top scorer record is already secured coa I don't even see Messi finishing with 140 UCL goals come the end of his career. Make Ronaldo just face his lane and add up europa goals joor and forget about a possible messi challenge.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:58pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


I think his point is that messi won't deliver elite goal scoring numbers going forward especially playing in a Mbappe-Neymar/another striker (like the Etikite guy) attack. Messi is getting more withdrawn from the box-18 as he ages hence it makes it unlikely that he will get higher goals tally than a Ronaldo (who plays as a 9 now) as both ages.

It's not about their overall play but more about how realistic it is for Messi to top Ronaldo UCL goals record with his more withdrawn attacking role.

With Bayern Munich, Juventus, ATM, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and PSG out of the race for him, which top Club is he going to play and score his UCL goals for??

Because Man Utd won't qualify for UCL next season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:59pm On Aug 03, 2022
afrodoc2:


CR7 did not get to his level by leaving things to chance the way you guys are doing.

It seems you guys don’t understand the mindset that turned him from just another showboating winger to a goal machine.

He is going to try do his utmost to ensure he stays ahead rather than leaving everything in Messi’s hands to decline.

MAYBE Messi won’t catch him o but Ronaldo aims to make sure of it.

Yeah you're right but if Ronaldo stat-pad europa goals, we CR7-stans go dey add all of them together as "european club goals" when e reach to banter Messi. Anything for the banter cos goals na goals grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:02pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


With Bayern Munich, Juventus, ATM, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and PSG out of the race for him, which top Club is he going to play and score his UCL goals for??

Because Man Utd won't qualify for UCL next season.






Where is your faith o' man of little faith? angry
ETH x CR7 x Sancho x Rashford/Martial ball = minimum of top3 finish plus one cup trophy.

Believe man cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:02pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


With Bayern Munich, Juventus, ATM, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool and PSG out of the race for him, which top Club is he going to play and score his UCL goals for??

Because Man Utd won't qualify for UCL next season.

He will go to Sporting Lisbon and statpad there till age 44.

No single human being is catching Ronaldo in the CL.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:04pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


Where is your faith o' man of little faith? angry
ETH x CR7 x Sancho x Rashford/Martial ball = minimum of top3 finish plus one cup trophy.

Believe man cool

Lol, Rashford and Martial?

Forget Man City and Liverpool, with this our transfer activities we can't finish ahead of Chelsea and Spurs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:06pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


He will go to Sporting Lisbon and statpad there till age 44.

No single human being is catching Ronaldo in the CL.

Sporting Lisbon?

That's if they make it out of UCL qualifiers or group stage. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:10pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


Sporting Lisbon?

That's if they make it out of UCL qualifiers or group stage. grin grin

There are 6 games in every group stage. That’s enough for Ronaldo to do his thing every season till he retires.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:10pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


He will go to Sporting Lisbon and statpad there till age 44.

No single human being is catching Ronaldo in the CL.

I like this spirit grin
Except another winch of a goalscoring talent comes up again in the future though cos I don't even expect Haaland to be consistent enough to reach those heights. Mbappe? Maybe sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 5:12pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


Lol, Rashford and Martial?

Forget Man City and Liverpool, with this our transfer activities we can't finish ahead of Chelsea and Spurs.
True. ETH is no magician.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:14pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


Lol, Rashford and Martial?

Forget Man City and Liverpool, with this our transfer activities we can't finish ahead of Chelsea and Spurs.

Every football fan uses the form of last season to judge a new season so it's expected of you to be pessimistic a bit. Just like everyone was predicting top3 for United and possible EPL challenge for Chelsea last seaon ahead of Liverpool based on (2020/21 performance).

United can't do worse than last season's performance so I am reasonably optimistic. Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea ain't shit cos they got their own problems too. The first 5-10 games would make things a bit clearer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:19pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


I like this spirit grin
Except another winch of a goalscoring talent comes up again in the future though cos I don't even expect Haaland to be consistent enough to reach those heights. Mbappe? Maybe sha.

Haaland had a very solid start. Even better than the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly. If he takes care of his body as much as Ronaldo does, he’s the most likely to break the record. That young man is a wizard.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:25pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


Haaland had a very solid start. Even better than the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly. If he takes care of his body as much as Ronaldo does, he’s the most likely to break the record. That young man is a wizard.


Yeah a fast start helps but consistency is the key. Neymar had a similar fast start by the age of 21 (career goals), even Mbappe UCL goals was crazy at first when he was still a teenager till he slowed down around 2018-19. Similar thing to Kane who started well in the UCL goals chart but couldn't maintain (Spurs lack of UCL participation caused it sha).

Haaland has had his first big move so I am realistic in my view that if he doesn't hit the ground running and consistently performs for Man City, his UCL goals records wouldn't reach those Ronaldo/Messi heights. The man needs to be hitting 10goals/season consistently going forward and City forwards (even the great Kun Aguero) has never produced such numbers before.

P.S: I am more concerned about UCL goals here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:28pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


Haaland had a very solid start. Even better than the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly. If he takes care of his body as much as Ronaldo does, he’s the most likely to break the record. That young man is a wizard.


Injury-free Haaland will break both Ronaldo UCL goals record and Alan Shearer's EPL goals record.

That guy is fvking good.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:32pm On Aug 03, 2022
Expert17:


Injury-free Haaland will break both Ronaldo UCL goals record and Alan Shearer's EPL goals record.

That guy is fvking good.

If he stays injury free and in City he definitely will. People don't yet understand that Pep was not supposed to get Haaland. Like how did people let that happen?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:32pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


Yeah a fast start helps but consistency is the key. Neymar had a similar fast start by the age of 21 (career goals), even Mbappe UCL goals was crazy at first when he was still a teenager till he slowed down around 2018-19. Similar thing to Kane who started well in the UCL goals chart but couldn't maintain (Spurs lack of UCL participation caused it sha).

Haaland has had his first big move so I am realistic in my view that if he doesn't hit the ground running and consistently performs for Man City, his UCL goals records wouldn't reach those Ronaldo/Messi heights. The man needs to be hitting 10goals/season consistently going forward and City forwards (even the great Kun Aguero) has never produced such numbers before.

P.S: I am more concerned about UCL goals here.

Aguero’s injury was an obstacle and he was almost 25 before he joined City. He’s not a good example to use here.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:36pm On Aug 03, 2022
Android17:
If he stays injury free and in City he definitely will. People don't yet understand that Pep was not supposed to get Haaland. Like how did people let that happen?

OLE and United board.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kozmicity: 5:40pm On Aug 03, 2022
Ellexy:
Simple and short.

grin grin
Like Messi
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:09pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


Aguero’s injury was an obstacle and he was almost 25 before he joined City. He’s not a good example to use here.

Agreed.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay1: 7:19pm On Aug 03, 2022
TrebleChamp:
I don't even know why Ten Hag wants him in the team, sign a new striker and put GOHT for bench if Reserve team is to demeaning to him. We cannot enter a new season with all this baggage abeg

Bold of you to assume ETH wants him in the team.

From a football and rebuilding stand point, ETH like other coaches currently will reject him. From the commercial stand point, the Board will want him to stay so hey can milk another commercial revenue out of him for another year , at least to recoup the transfer fee and wages they spent on the werey as well as make little profit out of it. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:34pm On Aug 03, 2022
Illimitable:


Haaland had a very solid start. Even better than the Messi/Ronaldo duopoly. If he takes care of his body as much as Ronaldo does, he’s the most likely to break the record. That young man is a wizard.

I don't think halaand will play as long or rather maintain that level when he hits 32+.. age where ororo and messi where still scoring loads .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 7:41pm On Aug 03, 2022
GoddyOra:


Yeah you're right but if Ronaldo stat-pad europa goals, we CR7-stans go dey add all of them together as "european club goals" when e reach to banter Messi. Anything for the banter cos goals na goals grin
Why the fvck will Ronaldo play in the Europa? Apart from the Semis upwards..
His game time will be limited to the League and Fa cup.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 7:47pm On Aug 03, 2022
So Klopp wanted to get Julian Brandt by all means from Leverkusen. He was his first and only choice. Till Michael Edwards sat with him and convinced him to try out an alternative which was Mo Salah.

Murtough on the other hand is just a clueless d*lt. He's just glad to be in the position he is. Not willing to put his neck on the line. If we don't get FDJ, it was the Manager's choice. If we do and he doesn't do well, it's the Manager's choice. Nothing to do with him.

Woodward is just a fo*l, but man would have gone for Rice/Neves by now. No time.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TeslaFC: 7:53pm On Aug 03, 2022
Matic did not inform them early enough of his intention to leave.

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