Stopping taking scriptures out of context.

Passovile:
Stopping taking scriptures out of context.

Don't waste your time....he doesn't know what context means....even if he does, he doesnt care..as long as his writeup fulfils his aim...

He that don't even know what Righteous is how would he know what Context is, not possible

Bible is Holy in the hand of a holy person, the writer and poster don't have understanding of the Word of God, so they like Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts Chapter 8 :30-32 they need someone to guide them

AntiChristian:
By Samson O Lukman

Top 20 Biblical Verses That Prove Paul Contradicted Jesus
Apostle Paul versus Jesus
Paul contradicted Jesus..

1. On the time of the coming of the Lord:
Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.
Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.

2. On the source of the Truth and the true gospel:
Paul says:
1Cor.2
[13] And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit.
Gal.1
[12] For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
Jesus says:
John.17
[14] I have given them thy word;
[17] Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth.

3. On the God of the dead:
Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;

4. On the sum of the commandments:
Paul says:
Rom.13
[9] The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Jesus says:
Matt.22
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.

5. On whom God has mercy:
Paul says:
Rom.9
[15] For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
[16] So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy.
[18] So then he has mercy upon whomever he wills, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wills.
Jesus says:
Matt.5
[7] Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

6. On forgiveness of trespasses:
Paul says:
Eph.1
[7] In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace
Rom.4
[25] who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification.
Jesus says:
Matt.6
[14] For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you;
[15] but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

7. On being justified:
Paul says:
Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.
Jesus says:
Matt.12
[37] for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

1. Romans 13 vs 12 and Luke 21 vs 8 - There is clearly no contradiction in your first since clearly both verses you quote insist that the day/time is at hand which indeed it is.

2. 1 Corinthians 2 vs 13 & Galatians 1 vs 12 & John 17 vs 14 - 17 - There is also no contradiction in both of those verses either since Paul correctly indicated there that the source of the Truth which He received is the Spirit of Truth aka the Spirit of Jesus Christ Himself who is God's Word and Truth. And it is true that all those who have the Spirit of Truth living in them are sanctified by the Truth. Jesus Christ.

3. Romans 14 vs 9 vs Luke 20 vs 28 - - This isn't a contradiction at all. Instead, it is a problem of understanding/ignorance on the part of the OP. Indeed Jesus Christ is Lord both over those who are already dead(sleeping in their graves) and also over those who are still alive. After all Jesus Christ explained in John 5 vs 19 - 29 that when He returns, those who are dead(sleeping in their graves) will hear His voice and answer Him.

4. Romans 13 vs 9 & Matthew 22 vs 37 - 40 - - While I do see a problem between the two verses, I instead believe it is a mistake on Paul's part in stating also the greatest commandment.

5. Romans 9 vs 15- 18 and Matthew 5 vs 7 - This again, isn't a contradiction at all. The blessing that awaits the merciful as Spoken of by Jesus Christ is of God's Heaven, however, where it concerns the Law of Moses, mercy to be obtained is of this world, and as Moses clearly said, God shows mercy to whomever He chooses. Men cannot decide this for Him. God pours out His mercy on even the wicked and the ungrateful in the word regularly by that.

6. Ephesians 1 vs 7 & Romans 4 vs 25 & Matthew 6 vs 14 -15 - Again, this isn't a contradiction at all but a lack of understanding on the part of the OP again.

Paul's primary audience were Christians of Jewish decent - the sinners of Israel - for whom Jesus Christ died in order to pay off their sin debt which they owed to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses. So, Paul is correct in stating that they were redeemed from their Old Covenant sins by Jesus Christ's sacrifice and Grace, from the Old Covenant debt which they owed, while they were then ported from following the Old Covenant by it into living under God's New Covenant Law instead.

Jesus Christ's statement in Matthew 6 vs 14 -15 has entirely to do with all those who exist under His New Covenant Law, regardless of their past ties.

7 Romans vs 24 - 28 & Romans 5 vs 9 and Matthew 12 vs 37 - [/b]This is also not a contradiction but again arises from a lack of understanding on the part of the OP. Those whose sin debt - to God's Old Covenant Law - was erased by Jesus Christ's death on the cross, the Jewish Christians, are those justified by Grace. God's promise to those of the Old Covenant was Eternal life(Life) for the righteous - [b]Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - aka Grace. By resolving their debt to God's Old Law, and freely giving them Eternal life, Jesus Christ essentially justified them according to the Old Covenant standard i.e. He gave freely to them righteousness by the Old Covenant Standard meaning they too will inherit not only the New Covenant promise but also God's Old Covenant promises/benefits as a result of Jesus's Christ's sacrifice for them.

Again, the primary audience for much of Paul's letters were the Christians of Jewish decent, and He made this known at the beginning of most of His letters.
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Nwaajasa:
Bible is Holy in the hand of a holy person, the writer and poster don't have understanding of the Word of God, so they like Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts Chapter 8 :30-32 they need someone to guide them

The statement in bold is a lie, please. That book is not holy at all. God never said so, instead, men are responsible for selling you that lie.

God didn't need to send a holy book to convey His Word to His own creation. For Pete's sake He created us all even the languages we speak(filth and all) and the mind we use in comprehending all the knowledge of good and of evil available which also belongs to Him. So there is absolutely no real reason why God would need a Holy Book, to begin with. His very Word is Truth and eternal meaning it can never change, no matter the attempts of men and the amount of time that passes. So, why would He need a Holy book? for what reason is there?

paul of tarsus, was a former bounty hunter, executioner and jewish (judaism scholar who claimed jesus revealed himself to him? Then went ahead and started writing letters and epistles which d early church fathers used, added and combined other non-pauline epistles to create christianity...and dz very d 'origin' christology is split into two factional belief systems. One believing in the divinity of Jesus christ(that jesus is God himself and part of d holy trinity and the other faction that adopts d golden ideal of Jesus being a merely saviour and son of God, nothing more. But today, all christians from catholic, pentecostal, seventh adventis, jehovah's witness, church of mormor; i.e, jesus christ church of d latter days saint, etc., messianic jews, i.e "jesus for d jews", presbyterians, ..i have lost count already...all are different, but claiming to belong to the same body of christ? Each denomination claiming to be d right and only church 'ritualistic' way of fellowship. What a mixture of madness today.

AntiChristian:
[b]8. On the cost of eternal life:
[color=#990000]Paul says:
Rom.6 [23] For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus says:
Matt.19 [29] And every one who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name's sake, will receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life.
Luke.14 [28] For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?
[33] So therefore, whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.

9. On what is honorable among men:
Paul says: 2Cor.8 [21] for we aim at what is honorable not only in the Lord's sight but also in the sight of men.
Rom.12 [17] Repay no one evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all men.
Rom.14 [18] he who thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.
1Cor.10 [33] just as I try to please all men in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.
Jesus says: Luke.16 [15] But he said to them, You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.
Luke.6 [26] Woe to you, when all men speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.
10. On Dying: Paul says: I Corinthians 15 31: I protest, brethren, by my pride in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die every day!
Jesus says: John 11 26: and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.
11. On the basis of judgment: Paul says:
Rom.2 [12] All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. Jesus says: John.12 [48] He who rejects me and does not receive my sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.
12. On the commandments and eternal life: Paul says: Rom.7
[9] I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died;
[10] the very commandment which promised life proved to be death to me.
Jesus says:Matt.19[17] And he said to him, Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.
13. On your father:Paul says:
1Cor.4[15] For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became yourfather in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
Phlm.1[10] I appeal to you for my child, Ones'imus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment.
Jesus says:Matt.23[9] And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.
14. On qualifying for eternal life: Paul says: Rom.5 [21] so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Jesus says: John.5 [24] Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

15. On the destiny of the creation (heavens and earth):
Paul says:
Rom.8
[21] because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Jesus says:
Matt.24
[35] Heaven and earth will pass away,

16. On the destiny of the Law and the Prophets:
Paul says:
Rom.10
[4] For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified.
Jesus says:
Matt.5
[17] Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.
[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the lawuntil all is accomplished.

17. On the number and identity of teachers:
Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,
Jesus says:
Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.

18. On the number to be saved:
Paul says:
Rom.11
[25] Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in,
[26] and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob.
Jesus says:
Matt.7
[13] Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
[14] For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

19. On the number and identity of pastors (shepherds):
Paul says:
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors(shepherds) and teachers,
Jesus says:
John.10
[16] And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.

20. On the number and identity of leaders:
Paul says:
1Cor.4
[15] For though you have countless leaders in Christ . . ..
Jesus says:
Matt.23
[10] Neither be called leaders, for you have one leader, the Christ.

8. Romans 6 vs 23 & Matthew 19 vs 29 & Luke 14 vs 28 - Interesting combination of verses by OP since none of them address the very same issues.

What Paul stated is again not a contradiction since what He said is in reference to what is God's own decree in what is His Old Covenant which once applied to all those of Jewish descent - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - where it is clearly explained that the wages of sin is Death whereas those of the Law who live a righteous existence have the promise of Life, eternal. In Jesus Christ, not only are the Jewish believers redeemed from the Old Law, as their debts to it paid off but they are also gifted with eternal life which they were not able to earn for themselves as sinners under the Old Law.

9. 2 Corinthians 8 vs 21 & Romans 12 vs 17 & Romans 14 vs 18 & 1 Corinthians 10 vs 33 & Luke 16 vs 15 & Luke 6 vs 26 - OK. I can say this is in fact the first actual valid contradiction so far.

10. 1 Corinthians 15 vs 31 & John 11 vs 26 - This is not a contradiction but a lack of understanding on the part of the OP. Jesus Christ said of those who will follow Him that they have to die to self - forfeiting one's haves, desires and will - carry their cross and follow Him. Paul is simply making it known here that he too dies, regularly, in order to follow Jesus Christ.

11. Romans 2 vs 12 & John 12 vs 48 - This is not a contradiction but a lack of understanding on the part of the OP. Jesus Christ already made it abundantly clear that those who do not believe in Him are already condemned, judged outside of Him, and will remain so, this in John 3 vs 1 - 21. Jesus Christ also clearly expanded in His teaching that He judges only those whom the Father has given to Him, so Paul is right in asserting that those who sin outside of God's Law perish without the Law, according to God's judgment since the time of Adam in Genesis 3 vs 19 -22.

12. Romans 7 vs 9 - 10 & Matthew 19 vs 17 - I don't understand this comparison here at all.

13. 1 Corinthians 4 vs 15 & Philemon 1 vs 10 & Matthew 23 vs 9 - OK. This is a contradiction.

14. Romans 5 vs 21 & John 5 vs 24 - This is also not a contradiction as Paul continues here to speak instead to those who are of Jewish descent about the gain they obtain from Jesus Christ by way of their adoption of His New Covenant.

15. Romans 8 vs 21 & Matthew 24 vs 35 - I don't understand this comparison here at all. This is also probably a lack of understanding on the part of the OP.

16. Romans 10 vs 4 and Matthew 5 vs 17 - 18 - This is not a contradiction for indeed, Jesus Christ is the end of the following of the Old Law for all those who were formerly under the Old Law, as they are, in Jesus Christ, made justified by the Old Law, as they proceed to live anew in God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ.

17. 1 Corinthians 12 vs 28 & Ephesians 4 vs 11 & 1 Timothy 2 vs 7 & 1 Timothy 1 vs 11 & Matthew 23 vs 8 - OK. This is a contradiction.

18. Romans 11 vs 25 - 26 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 - I don't understand this attempt at a comparison at all. I mean what has the first to do with the second? None

19. Ephesians 4 vs 11 & John 10 vs 16 - I don't understand this attempt at a comparison at all. Again, what has the first to do with the second reference? None

20. 1 Corinthians 4 vs 15 & Matthew 23 vs 10 - OK. This here is a contradiction.

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Out of 20 claimed contradictions, there are in fact only about 3 contradictions in all. What this means is OP should probably spend more time learning to comprehend before rushing to conclusions on any of what is in fact written in scripture.

Passovile:
Stopping taking scriptures out of context.

Why can't you church goers just attack the message instead of the messenger?

Nwaajasa:
Bible is Holy in the hand of a holy person, the writer and poster don't have understanding of the Word of God, so they like Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts Chapter 8 :30-32 they need someone to guide them

Holy indeed! What made it Holy?

advanceDNA:


Don't waste your time....he doesn't know what context means....even if he does, he doesnt care..as long as his writeup fulfils his aim...

How many Christians preach with context? When you quote John 3:16 or most other verses who narrates the context?

Now context is useful to you now!

IslamVIRGINS:
He that don't even know what Righteous is how would he know what Context is, not possible

Does righteous means can't sin at all?
Go and continue that on that thread!
I know you don't have anything to contribute on this thread.

AntiChristian:





How many Christians preach with context? When you quote John 3:16 or most other verses who narrates the context?

Now context is useful to you now!

Lol....context is why you muslims can't interprete your own quran well and still kill your fellow human beings for flimsy reason in the name of infidels and blasphemy in 2022.

Ignoring Context is why you all you muslims do is antagonize others religions instead of preaching your your so called message of peace.

I dont like to waste time on people like you because i know your aim and also because you feel you know it all.... you dont even know all when it comes to your religion....but some how you feel you can cap about anyhow....

advanceDNA:


Lol....context is why you muslims can't interprete your own quran well and still kill your fellow human beings for flimsy reason in the name of infidels and blasphemy in 2022.

Ignoring Context is why you all you muslims do is antagonize others religions instead of preaching your your so called message of peace.

I dont like to waste time on people like you because i know your aim and also because you feel you know it all.... you dont even know all when it comes to your religion....but some how you feel you can cap about anyhow....

How is all these rants related to this thread?
Later you'll claim holy Spirit is using you!

FALLACIES OF DIVERSION

AntiChristian:


Does righteous means can't sin at all?
Go and continue that on that thread!
I know you don't have anything to contribute on this thread.

Sorry if I've hurt you again. Are you not in good terms with the dictionary? Anyways, I've help you out

IslamVIRGINS:


Sorry if I've hurt you again. Are you not in good terms with the dictionary? Anyways, I've help you out

Go to that thread!

AntiChristian:


How is all these rants related to this thread?
Later you'll claim holy Spirit is using you!

FALLACIES OF DIVERSION

How is context not related to the thread...?kobojunkie has comprehensively explained all you called contractions...buy you are not here to learn but attck and antagonize the bible and the followers of Christ....but when the same is done to you..yoy start behaving like a cry baby..

I dont blame u....ur prophet did the same...instead of preaching....he resulted to antagonizing, violence, labelling other religions infidels and enemy, taking over people's land....thousands of years later...you are still doing the same......antagonism and violence no dey tire una

advanceDNA:


How is context not related to the thread...?kobojunkie has comprehensively explained all you called contractions...buy you are not here to learn but attck and antagonize the bible and the followers of Christ....but when the same is done to you..yoy start behaving like a cry baby..

I dont blame u....ur prophet did the same...instead of preaching....he resulted to antagonizing, violence, labelling other religions infidels and enemy, taking over people's land....thousands of years later...you are still doing the same......antagonism and violence no dey tire una

1. Quote the context you said i missed for all the 20 points raised!
2. Kobojunkie admitted to about three contradictions from Paul against Jesus. Do you agree to this?
3. Everything you said our Prophet did was actually authorised by your God in the Bible. These has been exposed for you many times!
Has your LORD changed? Abeg stay on the thread and bring out the context if you truly have any understanding of the word!

AntiChristian:


1. Quote the context you said i missed for all the 20 points raised!
2. Kobojunkie admitted to about three contradictions from Paul against Jesus. Do you agree to this?
3. Everything you said our Prophet did was actually authorised by your God in the Bible. These has been exposed for you many times!
Has your LORD changed? Abeg stay on the thread and bring out the context if you truly have any understanding of the word!

The God of abraham, Isaac and jacob, is not the same with your allah...U still have context problem....and u always need the bible you call altered to validate tour quran and prophet....oga..you are too pathetic...

Kobojunkie:

7 Romans vs 24 - 28 & Romans 5 vs 9 and Matthew 12 vs 37 - [/b]This is also not a contradiction but again arises from a lack of understanding on the part of the OP. Those whose sin debt - to God's Old Covenant Law - was erased by Jesus Christ's death on the cross, the Jewish Christians, are those justified by Grace. God's promise to those of the Old Covenant was Eternal life(Life) for the righteous - [b]Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - aka Grace. By resolving their debt to God's Old Law, and freely giving them Eternal life, Jesus Christ essentially justified them according to the Old Covenant standard i.e. He gave freely to them righteousness by the Old Covenant Standard meaning they too will inherit not only the New Covenant promise but also God's Old Covenant promises/benefits as a result of Jesus's Christ's sacrifice for them. undecided

Kobojunkie perverter of the truth of Christ.
Denying Jesus christ that bought you.


2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Among all the junks you spewed out.
Number 7 exposes you most as an anti christ.

According to you only the jews sin were paid on the cross.

The bible already conclud both jews and gentiles under sin with no exception

Since you are not a Jew then you have condemned yourself already by rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus.

What you are propagating on nairaland is not the doctrine of Jesus christ but of the devils.

AntiChristian:
1. Quote the context you said i missed for all the 20 points raised!
2. Kobojunkie admitted to about three contradictions from Paul against Jesus. Do you agree to this?
3. Everything you said our Prophet did was actually authorised by your God in the Bible. These has been exposed for you many times!
Has your LORD changed? Abeg stay on the thread and bring out the context if you truly have any understanding of the word!

3. All of what Mohammed did is actually against God of Scripture because Mohammad by suggesting himself as another way to God violates God's plan and promise to Abraham, Jesus Christ, meaning every claim Mobammed made is not only antiChrist but anti God.

AntiChristian:


Go to that thread!

Just enlighten you so that you won't make such mistake next time

Steep:
According to you only the jews sin were paid on the cross. The bible already conclud both jews and gentiles under sin with no exception. Since you are not a Jew then you have condemned yourself already by rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus. What you are propagating on nairaland is not the doctrine of Jesus christ but of the devils.

Jesus Christ, the one who died on the cross, told you instead that for your sins in the Kingdom of God, it is only by knowing the Truth - this through continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - will you then be set free from slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 35, and it is only if you stand faithful - in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - until the end, will you then be saved by the Truth - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. So is it that you don't believe what Jesus Christ taught at all?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the one who died on the cross, told you instead that for your sins in the Kingdom of God, it is only by knowing the Truth - this through continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - will you then be set free from slavery to sin by the Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 35, and it is only if you stand faithful - in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - until the end, will you then be saved by the Truth - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. So is it that you don't believe what Jesus Christ taught at all?

Jesus never said the nonsense you wrote there.

According to John 8 vs 31 Jesus was speaking to the jews.

John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

You pervert the word of God to propagate your satanic woke ideology.

Jesus said you will know the truth and guess who is the truth?
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus even reiterated it in that very passage .
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Jesus was clearly teaching that truth was a person and that person is the Son which can set free.

Your satanic teaching that states that gentiles does not need the blood of Jesus turns on its head.

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

The gentiles who believe in Jesus are saved by the blood just as the Jews who believed.
In fact Paul states that the blood of Jesus brought the gentiles to who were far from God to God.

What you are propagating is similar to gnostsis
Gnostisis teaches that Enlightenment is what will save man, the teach that through special knowledge man could attain to divinity.

Since you deny or reject that sacrifice of Jesus then your sin remains with you.
Nothing can take away sin except the blood of Jesus denying this means you have chosen to remain in darkness and your destiny is the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Kobo I saying this out of the love of God, Satan has decieved you and is leading people astray through you. Repent now!

Steep:
Jesus never said the nonsense you wrote there.

According to John 8 vs 31 Jesus was speaking to the jews.

Pretty much over 99.9 % of His conversations were with those of Jewish decent. So, are we to take it then that Jesus Christ didn't even mean much of what He said for all, but for the Jews alone?

31 So Jesus said to the Jews who believed in him, “If you continue to accept and obey my teaching, you are really my followers.
32 You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
33 They answered, “We are Abraham’s descendants. And we have never been slaves. So why do you say that we will be free?”
34 Jesus said, “The truth is, everyone who sins is a slave—a slave to sin. - John 8 vs 31 - 34

Jesus Christ clearly explained in the context that the way to KNOW the Truth is through continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments, something all of those who are His followers do. What that implies is it is impossible to KNOW the TRUTH, Jesus Christ, apart from living in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and Commandments of Jesus Christ.

Indeed, Jesus Christ is God's Truth - John 14 vs 6 -, the embodiment of God's New agreement and Covenant,- Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 and Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 - and according to Jesus Christ, those who are His followers are those obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - and those in whom the Spirit of Truth abides, those who love Him, are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 21 - 26 and John 16 vs 4 - 15.

So, either you believe all of what Jesus Christ taught His followers or you don't believe any of what Jesus Christ taught at all.

Kobojunkie:
3. All of what Mohammed did is actually against God of Scripture because Mohammad by suggesting himself as another way to God violates God's plan and promise to Abraham, Jesus Christ, meaning every claim Mobammed made is not only antiChrist but anti God.

The concept of Christianity is a new concept different from Judaism!

What were the religion of Adam? Lamech?
Till Noah?

How many times did your God change His ways from old testament to new testament?

Abeg don't let me call you a liar!
Muhammad acknowledged Adam, Noah, Moses up to Jesus. He claimed all of them are his brothers. And their religion is one (not Judaism to Christianity or anything else).

The way to salvation has always been to obey Allah and His commandments through His messenger!

So what are you saying?

advanceDNA:


The God of abraham, Isaac and jacob, is not the same with your allah...U still have context problem....and u always need the bible you call altered to validate tour quran and prophet....oga..you are too pathetic...

Oya explain the contexts na?

AntiChristian:
1. The concept of Christianity is a new concept different from Judaism!

2. What were the religion of Adam? Lamech?
Till Noah?

3. How many times did your God change His ways from old testament to new testament?

4. Abeg don't let me call you a liar!
Muhammad acknowledged Adam, Noah, Moses up to Jesus. He claimed all of them are his brothers. And their religion is one (not Judaism to Christianity or anything else).

5. The way to salvation has always been to obey Allah and His commandments through His messenger!

6. So what are you saying?

1. What you refer to as Judaism is instead a belief established on what is the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan. God, who gave that Law to the people of Israel cared only that the people of the Land obey His teachings and commandments- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

What you refer to as Christianity is a different Law and standard given by God for a different Kingdom entirely from the Kingdom of Canaan. And again, what God also desires in this New Covenant is that those who believe in Him obey His every teachings and commandments.

2. God of Scripture does not give His people religion. Instead, what He gives is a Law and His Mandate is obedience of every Word of His Law. He is God of Las, so for example, God's Law to Adam in the Garden of Eden, isn't the same Law God gave the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan and certainly not the same Law that is Jesus Christ. But are all of them His Laws and pretty much resolve according to God's ultimate plan for mankind.

3. God's Way is His Law... His Laws are eternal - no man has power to change God's Law in any way or form..

4. What exactly is the meaning or significance of this acknowledgement you speak of?

Where is it written in scripture that simply acknowledging the Old Prophets, by name, earns one a place with God of Israel?

5. The Way to salvation is continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, who is God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God. And other way or twist is AntiChrist .I.e. against Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God.

6. What I said remains and that is that Mohammed as an alternative to Jesus Christ is AntiChrist aka against God's Almighty.

Antichristian don't worry your conversion is growing close

Kobojunkie:
Pretty much over 99.9 % of His conversations were with those of Jewish decent. So, are we to take it then that Jesus Christ didn't even mean much of what He said for all, but for the Jews alone?

you are the one that said only the Jewish Christians are saved by Grace that gentiles has to keep the teachings of Jesus to be saved. Whereas Jews primary audience were the jews. You are a confused junkie.
That verse you quoted to support your nonsense were primarily for the jews to be saved.
Secondly, you are the one that claim that Paul's teachings on salvation through faith in Jesus was for jews alone mean while I showed you were Paul was referring to the Gentiles.
Going by your crap junk, Jesus teachings should only apply to the jews because Jesus was speaking to the jews and he said he came only for the lost sheep of Israel.

Jesus Christ clearly explained in the context that the way to KNOW the Truth is through continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments, something all of those who are His followers do. What that implies is it is impossible to KNOW the TRUTH, Jesus Christ, apart from living in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and Commandments of Jesus Christ.

junks as usual.
1.Who was Jesus speaking to Jews or gentiles?
2 . Where did Jesus mention "continuous submission" you are the one going about accusing others of adding their thought to scriptures here but you don't see you own poo.
You are just like your father the devil a liar and a false accuser.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Indeed, Jesus Christ is God's Truth - John 14 vs 6 -, the embodiment of God's New agreement and Covenant,- Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 and Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 - and according to Jesus Christ, those who are His followers are those obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - and those in whom the Spirit of Truth abides, those who love Him, are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 21 - 26 and John 16 vs 4 - 15.

twisting and turning scripture up side down.
How do you say the jews are saved by Grace when they were the primary people Jesus teaching?
You are being used by the devil.
According to you grace is for the jews only whereas look at the conversation Jesus

Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

So, either you believe all of what Jesus Christ taught His followers or you don't believe any of what Jesus Christ taught at all.

clown, that s what you teach, you are the one who claim Jesus teach work for salvation for the gentiles and the grace for jews alone.

Steep:
you are the one that said only the Jewish Christians are saved by Grace that gentiles has to keep the teachings of Jesus to be saved. Whereas Jews primary audience were the jews. You are a confused junkie.

1. That verse you quoted to support your nonsense were primarily for the jews to be saved. Secondly, you are the one that claim that Paul's teachings on salvation through faith in Jesus was for jews alone mean while I showed you were Paul was referring to the Gentiles.
Going by your crap junk, Jesus teachings should only apply to the jews because Jesus was speaking to the jews and he said he came only for the lost sheep of Israel.

I see that comprehension remains a big issue for you still....

1. Here's what I wrote earlier of Paul's claim.

Kobojunkie:
7 Romans vs 24 - 28 & Romans 5 vs 9 and Matthew 12 vs 37 - This is also not a contradiction but again arises from a lack of understanding on the part of the OP. Those whose sin debt - to God's Old Covenant Law - was erased by Jesus Christ's death on the cross, the Jewish Christians, are those justified by Grace. God's promise to those of the Old Covenant was Eternal life(Life) for the righteous - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - aka Grace. By resolving their debt to God's[b] Old Law[/b], and freely giving them Eternal life, Jesus Christ essentially justified them according to the Old Covenant standard i.e. He gave freely to them righteousness by the Old Covenant Standard meaning they too will inherit not only the New Covenant promise but also God's Old Covenant promises/benefits as a result of Jesus's Christ's sacrifice for them.

Again, the primary audience for much of Paul's letters were the Christians of Jewish decent, and He made this known at the beginning of most of His letters.
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For one, I made it abundantly clear that Paul's audience was primarily those of Jewish decent since his messages of salvation/redemption were geared towards explaining to them how they were no longer bound to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, as a result of their adoption of God's New Covenant Law - They were saved from the Old Covenant, not the New Covenant, Jesus Christ. So, I fail to see the meaning behind any of your ramblings nor how any of it connects in any way to what I have stated on this and other issues.

If you still refuse to calm yourself down and properly process what is written, I will go back to ignoring you since I am tired of reading these meaningless ramblings.

@steep

I hope you are not trying to win an arguement with kobo junkie or make her see your view..? That's a broken arrow... a total waste of time and energy...perhaps Pride or a false feeling of superiority, she will always come up with angle to make her opinion better or to invalidate yours....

When it comes to religion...She's something very close to JWs...She believes she's the only one following God/Jesus and every other person are just followimg men of God and with the only right interpretation of the scriptures......

advanceDNA:
@steep

I hope you are not trying to win an arguement with kobo junkie or make her see your view..? That's a broken arrow... a total waste of time and energy...perhaps Pride or a false feeling of superiority, she will always come up with angle to make her opinion better or to invalidate yours....

When it comes to religion...She's something very close to JWs...She believes she's the only one following God/Jesus and every other person are just followimg men of God and with the only right interpretation of the scriptures......

thanks I will no longer reply her. She is in delusion.