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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Harmlesspill(m): 2:26pm On Aug 05, 2022
Offpointng:
I happen to witness the incident, and I'd say both are at fault, there were just few cars bfr the soldier's bus which the police saw, it cost the police nothing to spare few minutes to allow the soldiers pass for sake of peace bfr stopping other cars, they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military. And when they came down in rage to question the policemen, the police men to were showing power and superiority hence reasons for the damages

The Soldiers were wrong to beat them and the Government also got greater blame for not fixing traffic light, in a saner clime the duty of Traffic Police is to ensure traffic light are obeyed strictly not to stand and control traffic with their hands. but this is 9ja
The soldiers are completely wrong!. okay lets assume that there was traffic light, would these soldiers have ignored it??

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Olamide5252: 2:30pm On Aug 05, 2022
just as someone said above, Some just put on the forces attire without knowing the rules and regulations of those attire. I believe that when forces see forces they should respect one another sine they all working for the nation's security. Having perceived the presence of the dispersed Soldiers, the police should have allow them way immediately. What's the point of flapping the wings when you are surrounded by pointing objects. The police think they are cats in the presence of the lions
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Heimdal(m): 2:30pm On Aug 05, 2022
Imagine how they treat civilians if they can treat police officers this way.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by ComeToJesus: 2:31pm On Aug 05, 2022
Offpointng:
I happen to witness the incident, and I'd say both are at fault, there were just few cars bfr the soldier's bus which the police saw, it cost the police nothing to spare few minutes to allow the soldiers pass for sake of peace bfr stopping other cars, they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military. And when they came down in rage to question the policemen, the police men to were showing power and superiority hence reasons for the damages

The Soldiers were wrong to beat them and the Government also got greater blame for not fixing traffic light, in a saner clime the duty of Traffic Police is to ensure traffic light are obeyed strictly not to stand and control traffic with their hands. but this is 9ja


"they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military"


You just ruined everything you wrote with the above. Next time, when they are on orders again, let them pull down the bloodi traffic lights that doesn't recognize official orders.

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Heimdal(m): 2:32pm On Aug 05, 2022
This probably wouldn’t have happened if there were traffic lights but welcome to Nigeria where police still direct traffic with hand.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by ComeToJesus: 2:33pm On Aug 05, 2022
And ragtag bandits on motorcycles will be using our soldiers to play monkey post. Nonsense cowards. Their power na for civilian body.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by AnthonyAk(m): 2:34pm On Aug 05, 2022
Soldiers operate with too much impunity in naija

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Nobody: 2:35pm On Aug 05, 2022
Munamoqel:
Hiwhat of if the soilders where on a mission to repel an attack? While the traffic police still be passing cars !

The soldiers are not expected to repel attacks in a civilian setting (except martial law had been declared). Nigeria being a lawless nation is what allows for soldiers to respond to such. The DSS and the police SWAT teams are empowered to do that.

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Munamoqel: 2:39pm On Aug 05, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:


The soldiers are not expected to repel attacks in a civilian setting (except martial law had been declared). Nigeria being a lawless nation is what allows for soldiers to respond to such. The DSS and the police SWAT teams are empowered to do that.
how come the US deployed soilders on riots like the black lives matter and other? US na lawless land too.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Talknochip(m): 2:43pm On Aug 05, 2022
Oga Police say they are resolving the issue

Resolve?
When a life was lost??!

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Fujiyama: 2:49pm On Aug 05, 2022
do4luv14:
why is it that, if I might ask

^^^
I don't have the full details of the case of the soldier on a bike you referred to. Did the police give a reason for stopping him and seizing the bike? You may want to give more info if you have it.

What is revealing is your description of the traffic stop of this lone soldier as a lack of 'respect'. That is the problem right there. This matter of 'respect' (or the lack of it) is a recurring decimal in these clashes between Nigerian soldiers and everybody else. Nigerian soldiers break laws at will and on the rare occasions they are called out, they call it 'disrespect'. undecided

Respect is earned. It is not decreed into existence by a military court. It is earned. And respect is not a cover for condoning illegality - that is nothing but utter perversion. Respect is earned!!

Nigerian military personnel are the privileged class who routinely refuse to obey common sense laws or rules that govern everyone else. And we think this country will ever make it when an institution like the military has this ingrained mindset? Never. We won't.

You claim that the 3 police officers controlling traffic were 'disrespectful' for stopping the bus. In your words, traffic control that slows down a bus with soldiers is 'silly excuses'. undecided Well, a man just doing his job is now dead. His family will have to face life without him now. A breadwinner, a son, possibly a father, uncle, brother, etc. gone forever. And all because Nigerian soldiers have been indoctrinated to believe they are above the law - and can take lives at will without any consequences whatsoever.

If you can't see anything wrong with all this I don't know what else to say to you.

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Nobody: 2:53pm On Aug 05, 2022
Munamoqel:
how come the US deployed soilders on riots like the black lives matter and other? US na lawless land too.

You're confusing SWAT with the US Army?

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Geminiivory: 2:53pm On Aug 05, 2022
Offpointng:
I happen to witness the incident, and I'd say both are at fault, there were just few cars bfr the soldier's bus which the police saw, it cost the police nothing to spare few minutes to allow the soldiers pass for sake of peace bfr stopping other cars, they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military. And when they came down in rage to question the policemen, the police men to were showing power and superiority hence reasons for the damages

The Soldiers were wrong to beat them and the Government also got greater blame for not fixing traffic light, in a saner clime the duty of Traffic Police is to ensure traffic light are obeyed strictly not to stand and control traffic with their hands. but this is 9ja

This is just mo excuse naa . No be Ojo barracks axis again? That place with heavy traffic jam all the time?Let's all learn to be patient with each other afterall their oga knows that that road is something else .so enough tolerance has to be handy when it comes to that place

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Munamoqel: 2:55pm On Aug 05, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:


You're confusing SWAT with the US Army?
really abi you confused .troops are even deploy in floods!
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Fujiyama: 2:57pm On Aug 05, 2022
Olamide5252:
just as someone said above, Some just put on the forces attire without knowing the rules and regulations of those attire. I believe that when forces see forces they should respect one another sine they all working for the nation's security. Having perceived the presence of the dispersed Soldiers, the police should have allow them way immediately. What's the point of flapping the wings when you are surrounded by pointing objects. The police think they are cats in the presence of the lions

^^^
Still more nonsense.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Munamoqel: 2:58pm On Aug 05, 2022
HedwigesMaduro:


You're confusing SWAT with the US Army?
1932: Disbanding the "Bonus Army"
Though not as destructive or deadly as the NYC Draft Riots, the 1932 Bonus Army attack was notable for the use of federal military troops to clear out a bunch of veterans looking for help from the government -- help that was promised to them anyway.

In the years following the 1929 stock market crash, the situation for struggling World War I veterans quickly went from bad to worse. Congress promised them a cash payment of up to $1 for every day they were in active service, to a maximum of $500. That's a cool $9,300 in 2020 dollars, more than enough to survive the Great Depression.

For most vets, that money was to be paid over the span of years, but with the Depression in full swing, everyone needed cash right then. The veterans formed an activist group called the "Bonus Army" to go to Washington and advocate for the pay, setting up camp on Capitol Hill.

President Herbert Hoover's attorney general ordered the police to remove them, which did not go as planned. Hoover soon got wind of the incident and ordered General Douglas MacArthur and tanks from the 3rd Cavalry Regiment to do the job. The Army shot tear gas and marched on the Bonus Army with fixed bayonets. As the vets retreated from Capitol Hill, the U.S. Army burned their encampment.

1967: Detroit's 12th Street Riot
The second largest riot since the 1863 Draft Riot in New York happened in Detroit in 1967 -- and was a harbinger for the tumultuous years to come in the United States.

In that year, almost 160 race riots broke out across the United States, earning the nickname the "Long, Hot Summer of 1967." None of the uprisings were more destructive than in Detroit, where what started as a police raid on an illegal after-hours bar turned into one of the country's most violent and destructive riots ever.

For five days, the citizens of Detroit ran wild through the streets. It was one so rampant that then-Governor George Romney (yes, Mitt Romney's dad) chose to call in the Michigan National Guard. When even that didn't work, President Lyndon Johnson called in the 82d and 101st Airborne.

In the wake of the riot, 43 were dead and more than 2,000 buildings were destroyed.

1967: Newark Riots
This is another significant disturbance of the 1967 "Long, Hot Summer," particularly due to the level of destruction the riots caused the city of Newark -- a level from which the city has never fully recovered.

As middle-class white Americans left urban areas after WWII, Black Americans still faced widespread racism and discrimination in those cities. Finding a decent job and a place to live became more and more difficult, even though those opportunities existed.

The frustration of Black Newark boiled over as the city descended into poverty. City politicians and police mostly remained white. The frustration came to a head when a Black cab driver was beaten unconscious and dragged to a police station by white officers for passing a double-parked police vehicle. There, he was charged with assaulting the police officers. Rumors spread that he was killed in police custody. He wasn't -- but he was badly beaten.

What began as a protest against police brutality soon turned into widespread
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by mignone(f): 3:01pm On Aug 05, 2022
Splitmind:
We have to ask ourselves what the policemen did to provoke the soldiers. Remember civilians don't give soldiers the proper respect and think they can do anyhow around them.
... so that gives them d right to maltreat anyone, a fello w uniform man, even to d extent of killing him.
I fear for this ur mentality o
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Brushstrokes20: 3:01pm On Aug 05, 2022
Those lawless, brainless, animals in human skin should be deployed to sambisa and Afghanistan to meet their match! Nonsense undecided
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Sunnyski: 3:02pm On Aug 05, 2022
Any of the two idiotic foolish forces can kill themselves while I don't GaF
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by highchief1: 3:05pm On Aug 05, 2022
naptu2:


https://independent.ng/soldiers-beat-police-officer-to-death-in-lagos/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter
thats why when unknown gunmen slice that woman Toto cut the man head I happy.soldiers are stupid ppl.although I’m happy na police man dem kill
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Newness2019: 3:06pm On Aug 05, 2022
BOKO HARAM WILL PAY THEM BACK IN MANY FOLDS.

WATCH AND SEE.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by nairalanderr: 3:12pm On Aug 05, 2022
It's sad that something like this can happen and we will feel no ounce of pity for the police officer cause of their own level of wickedness.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by maasoap(m): 3:14pm On Aug 05, 2022
Offpointng:
I happen to witness the incident, and I'd say both are at fault, there were just few cars bfr the soldier's bus which the police saw, it cost the police nothing to spare few minutes to allow the soldiers pass for sake of peace bfr stopping other cars, they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military. And when they came down in rage to question the policemen, the police men to were showing power and superiority hence reasons for the damages

The Soldiers were wrong to beat them and the Government also got greater blame for not fixing traffic light, in a saner clime the duty of Traffic Police is to ensure traffic light are obeyed strictly not to stand and control traffic with their hands. but this is 9ja

You are more than mad, I think I should tell you. Just look at the nonsense you wrote up there! Were the police to be on the look out for soldiers in coastal buses? It wasn't even like there were no cars in front of them when the traffic controllers switched to cars on other lanes.
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by stacyadams: 3:15pm On Aug 05, 2022
Sunnyski:
Any of the two idiotic foolish forces can kill themselves while I don't GaF


I support u sir...two lawless departments.

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by maasoap(m): 3:16pm On Aug 05, 2022
ScamHunter:


Really? They were in a hurry and couldn't wait for 3 minutes but were not in a hurry to fight and beat the policemen for 15-20 minutes? The reason why Nigeria would continue not to work is this your type of reasoning.
Is Nigeria the only country with a military? Why are we not hearing that those who are supposed to be the most disciplined professionals are always messing up in places like even Ghana?
If these soldiers do not acknowledge constituted authority like traffic police. how are you sure they would obey traffic light? They would as well endanger the lives of other road users by refusing to stop at traffic lights because being a soldier means being above the law or rather, being lawless.

Would those soldiers beat up ISWAP, Boko Haram and Bandits who are ready to meet them fire for fire? Do we not see them complain of poor equipment and superior firepower when the chips are down? Let's just admit that this country isn't working bruv

Thank you. That Offpointng dude mumu pass many things
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by frog12: 3:21pm On Aug 05, 2022
na northern soldiers
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Offpointng: 3:22pm On Aug 05, 2022
do4luv14:




I agreed with you, but the police are at Greater fault here, I had witnessed such stands off time and again, And as always it was started by the police and their overzealousness,

A lone soldier was on his way to work, and seems to be running late, a young guy at that,
now he board a bike as a fast means to get to work, police stop bike, ask soldier to dismount, ( no respect, ) and proceeded to seize the bike after pleading with the police to consider him, and return the bike keys, it falls on deft ears, and the police even insulted him,

That's when to soldier lost it, it took begging from the most senior police among them to calm him down,


those three officers are disrespectful, a coaster bus, containing soldiers cannot be stopped for such silly excuses, it's and insult, even after the soldiers came down, they should have at least allowed them to pass thru

You seem to be the only sensible person to see from my point of view
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by Offpointng: 3:24pm On Aug 05, 2022
maasoap:


You are more than mad, I think I should tell you. Just look at the nonsense you wrote up there! Were the police to be on the look out for soldiers in coastal buses? It wasn't even like there were no cars in front of them when the traffic controllers switched to cars on other lanes.

I ain't the one who ordered the hit against the police neither did I encourage the act. So when quoting me be civil enough to put ur senses in venting ur frustrations
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by cutedharmee: 3:25pm On Aug 05, 2022
Splitmind:
We have to ask ourselves what the policemen did to provoke the soldiers. Remember civilians don't give soldiers the proper respect and think they can do anyhow around them.
Heard the police corked their rifle and shot at the soldiers while bullet brushed one of the soldiers head and that got the soldiers angry. I've seen an instance where policemen were ready to beat a senior officer in army cos they feel he was alone. One of them even brushed the officers face with his palm. If the officer had come back for them with soldiers and deal with them it would have been a story of soldier beat police without telling the true story of what transpired. Ain't justifying what the soldiers did sha but some of those police sef get their own for body. E too much for some of them abeg
Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by NoToPile: 3:26pm On Aug 05, 2022
Offpointng:
I happen to witness the incident, and I'd say both are at fault, there were just few cars bfr the soldier's bus which the police saw, it cost the police nothing to spare few minutes to allow the soldiers pass for sake of peace bfr stopping other cars, they might have been on orders and late coming is always punished in the military. And when they came down in rage to question the policemen, the police men to were showing power and superiority hence reasons for the damages

The Soldiers were wrong to beat them and the Government also got greater blame for not fixing traffic light, in a saner clime the duty of Traffic Police is to ensure traffic light are obeyed strictly not to stand and control traffic with their hands. but this is 9ja


I believe this happened at OJO Barracks right? Everybody knows the police there control the traffic there, people turning and switching lanes, where were they going that they couldn't wait 2 minutes for their lane to be passed. So it is now a crime to stop cars on a lane military men are on? Like seriously? Do you even think these set of soldiers will obey traffic light? I don't think so.


Nawa oo, I doubt this country can move forward we have a very warped mentality as citizens.

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Re: Soldiers Beat Policeman, Monday Orube, To Death In Lagos by ogkrakkid(m): 3:38pm On Aug 05, 2022
Very good. Policemen robbed me last night took all I had in my pocket even my fuel money.na only God save me say the little fuel took me home. At ikorodu round about.specifically sagamu road station. Ogun go kill all of una including una family for house wey go follow chop my money. Basterds.

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