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MaxInDHouse:
Do you think my response is to please you?

Well i responded because that question is vital and honest hearted followers need to know what happened and how the Bible students do things before 1919. So regarding why 1919 is the starting point where Jesus (the mighty spirit King) began overseeing the work himself.

please add bible verses that show 1914,1919,2019,2022. At least for the sake of honest hearted followers.

MaxInDHouse:
I have been boasting of knowing the Bible from Genesis to Revelation but I cannot answer simple questions.

What evidence has Watchtower given you since you became a JW that they were indeed selected by Jesus in 1919? And why is it that an organisation that Jesus supposedly chose went on to proclaim many false prophecies after 1919?

Secondly, what evidence do you have directly from the Bible that Jesus came in 1914? If Jesus truly came in 1914, why do you still do the Memorial when Apostle Paul said you are to do it TILL JESUS COMES?

Thirdly, are you not aware of the warning from Jesus about False Prophets claiming that He has come? Jesus said Let no one deceive you for False Prophets will appear and say The Lord's day has come or that he has come! The time is near and has come! Jesus is hiding here, you just can't see him (denoting invisibility) , come and see! Who has done all these things? You JWs! Jesus even says Don't believe them. You all said Jesus has already come but invisibly. You all prophesied that the end has come 10 times! 10 good times! How do you feel knowing that you have chosen to ignore the warnings of Jesus?

Templee333:
ewoooo! My own don finish-o!

Sir revelation 20 vs 4 says then i saw thrones and sitting on them were those who had been given the right to judge. And i saw the SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAD BEEN BEHEADED FOR THEIR TESTIMONY ABOUT JESUS FOR PROCLAIMING THE WORD OF GOD AND WHO HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE CREATURE . Sir be glad for those one will partake in first resurrection and enjoy 1000 yrs with christ.

The topic of the thread is so fitting for the questions we are asking the JWs. The topic should have been Questions JWs cannot answer.

As you can see, they ran away! Typical JW. Have they answered the questions? Nope. After boasting about! Each answer leads to more questions showing that their doctrines have no weight that fall apart once you use the most basic critical thinking skills.

Lighthouse50:
Sir revelation 20 vs 4 says then i saw thrones and sitting on them were those who had been given the right to judge. And i saw the SOULS OF THOSE WHO HAD BEEN BEHEADED FOR THEIR TESTIMONY ABOUT JESUS FOR PROCLAIMING THE WORD OF GOD AND WHO HAD NOT WORSHIPPED THE CREATURE . Sir be glad for those one will partake in first resurrection and enjoy 1000 yrs with christ.

wow! This is goooooodnews! The world must hear this! Pls sir are u a GO?

That time will be terrible and many elect will be beheaded and killed. Its the period of great tribulation and the abomination of desolation will be set up for they will stop our daily prayers and many things and make many commit the abominable.. Bible said it will be so terrible that such damage or harm has never be done on earth before. It going to be bloody and many people who claimed christians now will fall away massively. ONLY THOSE WHO ENDURED TO THE END WILL BE SAVED.

Templee333:
wow! This is goooooodnews! The world must hear this! Pls sir are u a GO?

Funny you sir. Dan 12 vs 3 says and those who are wise (the people of God) will shine like the brightness of the firmament and THOSE WHO TURN MANY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE THE STARS FOREVER..

Lighthouse50:
Funny you sir. Rev 12 vs 3 says and those who are wise (the people of God) will shine like the brightness of the firmament and THOSE WHO TURN MANY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE THE STARS FOREVER..

pls am i opportuned 2 b among the shining ones?

Templee333:
pls am i opportuned 2 b among the shining ones?

Welcome on board sir...

MaxInDHouse:
Even the answer i gave you is not as detailed in any JW website.
Each member of the Christian congregation is gaining more insight as we humbly attend our meetings, studying diligently, meditate thoroughly, preach zealously and pray fervently.

You can never understand to my level if you're not ready to accept the Governing Body as Jesus' representatives. That's the secret!

Most exjws already had doubts in their minds while they're still in the organization so the spirit in that organization will never increase their insight rather it will continue to format what they knew before {Matthew 25:24-25} while those that came behind them with open hearts will continue to increase in godly wisdom {Matthew 25:28} that's what Jesus meant when he said "the first will be last" {Matthew 19:30} can you imagine that i a former Muslim could be so knowledgeable much more than people like oteneaaron (Courz) who has been in the organization from birth?
Well it's because such ones aren't positive with their thinking so they're always double minded and God's Holy Spirit can't work with people with such spirit:

Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you INDECISIVE ONES. Give way to misery and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned into mourning, and your joy into despair. HUMBLE YOURSELVES in the eyes of Jehovah, and he will exalt you! James 4:8-10

Note the highlighted!

Oshey l!!! scholar, I dey hail oooo

Lighthouse50:
Welcome on board sir...

wow! What are the requirements?

Lighthouse50:
Funny you sir. Dan 12 vs 3 says and those who are wise (the people of God) will shine like the brightness of the firmament and THOSE WHO TURN MANY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE THE STARS FOREVER..

ah! U've now change it to Dan.12 v 3,not Rev.anymore. Am I safe?

Templee333:
ah! U've now change it to Dan.12 v 3,not Rev.anymore. Am I safe?

mistake and i corrected it

MaxInDHouse:
You should know how much we treasure people who are conscious of their spiritual needs like you! Matthew 5:3



But there are certain things that's not granted to everyone except those who made themselves like babies {Matthew 18:3} so try to avail yourself for a free home Bible study next month and humble yourself from the heart that's how you can understand all these things!

Note:
All these things only began simultaneously and they will continue until God's Kingdom comes!

Third Seal!

Due to wars famine struck the earth and it affected every part of the earth so that food became scarce as all politicians struggling for power keep spending millions of dollars to buy weapons and maintain security guards in the name of Army, Navy, Air force and so on, these people aren't doing anything other than training everyday in preparation for war that their political leaders could choose to avoid by following Jesus' wise counsel.
So the cost of food has continue to be on the increase globally and world powers are using diplomacy to collect more from developing nations but all the nations are using the little they have to amass weapons at the detriment of food supplies.

That's the third rider with scale in his hands shouting:

“A quart of wheat for a de·narʹi·us and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.”

Meaning no matter the effect of this artificial famine breweries will never cease throughout the earth yet people in all countries will be complaining about high cost of FOOD!

Please avail yourself for a free home Bible study next month with a humble spirit like a child always ready to learn, i'm sure you will be granted the wisdom to decipher most of these things you're asking. Matthew 7:7-8
But if you're planning to become a pastor you can never understand {Daniel 12:10} because your desire to make money from what you're learning freely {Matthew 10:8} will always cause a friction and the spirit teaching humble ones can't stay with lovers of money! Matthew 6:24

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Thank you for your explanation of the third seal. If I understand you clearly, it is a continuous event unlike seal 1 and 2.

So, in summary:
1. Seal 1: Accomplished in 1914
2. Seal 2: Death Accomplished during WW1.
3. Seal 3: Famine Continuous till date


About becoming a Pastor, no need to worry: I don't have that specific calling as I serve God in other capacities.

Thanks again for availing me your understanding of seals 1-3. I'll appreciate if you can proceed to seals 4-6.

Thank you.

TenQ:
Thank you for your explanation of the third seal. If I understand you clearly, it is a continuous event unlike seal 1 and 2.

So, in summary:
1. Seal 1: Accomplished in 1914
2. Seal 2: Death Accomplished during WW1.
3. Seal 3: Famine Continuous till date


About becoming a Pastor, no need to worry: I don't have that specific calling as I serve God in other capacities.

Thanks again for availing me your understanding of seals 1-3. I'll appreciate if you can proceed to seals 4-6.

Thank you.

All is continuous none stops when it commence until God's Kingdom comes mankind will continue to experience all, the only thing is each comes after the other but they stays until the end.

Avail yourself for more as you study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses, attend our meetings and keep meditating on how things turns out being mindful of your spiritual needs not allowing worldly pleasures to carry you away! Luke 17:26-27

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
All is continuous none stops when it commence until God's Kingdom comes mankind will continue to experience all, the only thing is each comes after the other but they stays until the end.

Avail yourself for more as you study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses, attend our meetings and keep meditating on how things turns out being mindful of your spiritual needs not allowing worldly pleasures to carry you away! Luke 17:26-27

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Thanks.
However, I still need a summary of seals 4-6. It doesn't have to be very detailed. If the episodes are continuous, then I still would like to know their commencement period

So, in summary:
1. Seal 1: Angel Michael comes to establish the JW organisation Accomplished in 1914
2. Seal 2: Death Accomplished during WW1.
3. Seal 3: Famine Continuous till date

Still waiting for seals 4 to 6.

Thank you!

Lighthouse50:
mistake and i corrected it

ok. I wish Max would read this & learn something

Templee333:
ok. I wish Max would read this & learn something

https://www.nairaland.com/7253447/experience-olumba-obu-ooo
https://www.nairaland.com/7267762/experience-eckankar-religion
https://www.nairaland.com/7252017/jehovahs-witnesses-going-house-house

Continue with your experiences, i only move with faithful people!

MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/7253447/experience-olumba-obu-ooo https://www.nairaland.com/7267762/experience-eckankar-religion
Continue with your experiences, i only move with faithful people!

how does that concern what we are saying here?

Templee333:
how does that concern what we are saying here?

OP directed his questions to JWs and you're not one of JWs so what are you doing here?

MaxInDHouse:
OP directed his questions to JWs and you're not one of JWs so what are you doing here?

u may not knw why i am here because ur Governing body dont dictate it 2 u,so keep asking.

Templee333:
u may not knw why i am here because ur Governing body dont dictate it 2 u,so keep asking.

Good!
So there's no need quoting or mentioning me!

MaxInDHouse:
Good! So there's no need quoting or mentioning me!

until u stop misleading people.

Templee333:
until u stop misleading people.

Funny atheists!
Why not LEAD them since you don't want others to MISLEAD them?

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheists!
Why not LEAD them since you don't want others to MISLEAD them?

i don't claim 2 be a leader. Rather u & ur 8 superior leaders claim a title that jesus had warn against!

Templee333:
i don't claim 2 be a leader. Rather u & ur 8 superior leaders claim a title that jesus had warn against!

Just say you don't want to hear anything about God because Jesus appointed 12 Apostles in the midst of countless disciples {Luke 6:13} and they were LEADING the disciples as they TEACH them {Act 2:42} according to Paul all the disciples were to obey what the APOSTLES say {Hebrews 13:7} so you don't know what Jesus said.

Jesus never condemn the idea of overseers among his disciples rather his admonition to faithful individuals is to IDENTIFY their leaders by FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18

Jehovah's Witnesses organization has produced all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit that's what millions around the globe SAW in the leaders of that organization! Matthew 5:14-16

MaxInDHouse:
Just say you don't want to hear anything about God because Jesus appointed 12 Apostles in the midst of countless disciples {Luke 6:13} and they were LEADING the disciples as they TEACH them {Act 2:42} according to Paul all the disciples were to obey what the APOSTLES say {Hebrews 13:7} so you don't know what Jesus said.

Jesus never condemn the idea of overseers among his disciples rather his admonition to faithful individuals is to IDENTIFY their leaders by FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18

Jehovah's Witnesses organization has produced all the qualities of God's Holy Spirit that's what millions around the globe SAW in the leaders of that organization! Matthew 5:14-16

so jesus was lying in Mat.23:8-10?

Templee333:
so jesus was lying in Mat.23:8-10?

You only need to ask his true disciples to teach you instead of quoting him out of context!

Jesus said:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,, even unto the end of the world. Matthew 28:19-20

What Jesus meant is religious title chiefs known by outsiders who don't believe in what they teach yet calling them by religious titles in the society.
Among Jehovah's Witnesses it's only members that knows those serving as prophets, teachers, shepherds and apostles in our midst unlike those in false religions that are popular in the society even among those who don't believe what they teach.

So humble yourself and learn your dogs won't protect you when God's Kingdom comes to destroy faithless humans! Revelations 21:8

MaxInDHouse:
You only need to ask his true disciples to teach you instead of quoting him out of context!

Jesus said:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,, even unto the end of the world. Matthew 28:19-20

What Jesus meant is religious title chiefs known by outsiders who don't believe in what they teach yet calling them by religious titles in the society.
Among Jehovah's Witnesses it's only members that knows those serving as prophets, teachers, shepherds and apostles in our midst unlike those in false religions that are popular in the society even among those who don't believe what they teach.

So humble yourself and learn your dogs won't protect you when God's Kingdom comes to destroy faithless humans! Revelations 21:8

Luke 6:39

Templee333:
Luke 6:39

Olódo!

MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

sorry i dont get u

MaxInDHouse:
OP directed his questions to JWs and you're not one of JWs so what are you doing here?

I wish you respond to my questions please


Thanks.
However, I still need a summary of seals 4-6. It doesn't have to be very detailed. If the episodes are continuous, then I still would like to know their commencement period

So, in summary:
1. Seal 1: Angel Michael comes to establish the JW organisation Accomplished in 1914
2. Seal 2: Death Accomplished during WW1.
3. Seal 3: Famine Continuous till date

Still waiting for seals 4 to 6.

Thank you!