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Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47pm On Aug 07, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, your own occultist book supports egbo igi ati gbongbo for your healing and deliverance even you can patronize babalawo for traditional medicines according to your own book but your sister's husband that babalawo is not a politician ooo just imagine grin
ANTIlSLAM:
So in your life you never see someone that has never visited hospital and never take drugs before?
Bible never supports the use of tablet, capsule, etc all these are made from Egbo igi and gbongbo.
Go and convince your fellow Churchgoers ọmọ people dey use medicines even in the hospitals you've been promoting saying they're working for Jesus so stop contradicting yourself simply because you want to argue! grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 8:11pm On Aug 07, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Go and convince your fellow Churchgoers ọmọ people dey use medicines even in the hospitals you've been promoting saying they're working for Jesus so stop contradicting yourself simply because you want to argue! grin
So people dey use traditional medicines in hospital abi? Shey your own Jesus taught you to use medicines since you're the only Christians in the world in your occultist religion while others are politicians
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18pm On Aug 07, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
So people dey use traditional medicines in hospital abi? Shey your own Jesus taught you to use medicines since you're the only Christians in the world in your occultist religion while others are politicians
I thought you typed this:

ANTIlSLAM:
So in your life you never see someone that has never visited hospital and never take drugs before?
Bible never supports the use of tablet, capsule, etc all these are made from Egbo igi and gbongbo.
So what exactly are you saying gangan? cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:02pm On Aug 07, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I thought you typed this:



So what exactly are you saying gangan? cheesy
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, you need montessori education aswear. Let me put it in another way you'll easily comprehend with.

No where it is written in the Bible that Jesus taught to use medicines for healing, since you're the only Christians that follows the teaching of Jesus in your occultist JWs religion while others are politicians, why not showing us where Jesus supports the use of medicines for healing.

The Yoruba Bible you quoted only exposed your ignorant and I gave you an assignment to see your elder sister babalawo's husband, tell him to enlighten you on EWE ogun and Ewe'be (Ewe Obe i.e. Soup) lobatan
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:17pm On Aug 07, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, you need montessori education aswear. Let me put it in another way you'll easily comprehend with.
No where it is written in the Bible that Jesus taught to use medicines for healing, since you're the only Christians that follows the teaching of Jesus in your occultist JWs religion while others are politicians, why not showing us where Jesus supports the use of medicines for healing.
The Yoruba Bible you quoted only exposed your ignorant and I gave you an assignment to see your elder sister babalawo's husband, tell him to enlighten you on EWE ogun and Ewe'be (Ewe Obe i.e. Soup) lobatan
OLÓDO! cheesy

Keep shifting the goal post after been outwitted smartly!
I only engaged you intelligently to show you that you're completely empty.
First you're supporting Catholics for hospitals and i told you that's not what Jesus sent his followers to do. Next you started insulting me for telling you the truth but i kept insisting that hospitals aren't what Jesus sent his disciples to go and build. And by the end you condemned the works of the so called hospitals and now you want to claim miracles should be the solution to sicknesses shey?

Well i never claimed we are miracle workers so if you don't know what to say again why not just shut up? cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 10:45pm On Aug 07, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
So in your kingdom hall you have babalawos, Olúwo, Apènà, etc as your members for supporting idolism act abi? Thought you're only Christians in JWs while others are politicians? Your own Christians in your occultist religion, JWs have grace and privilege to visit babalawo for healing and deliverance right? Is that what your Jesus in your occultist religion book taught you abi?
Make I explain this to you once and for all.
JWs don't engage in anything that is magical or links with demons.
They don't do spiritism, divination, magic, witchcraft etc.

I'm not a JW but I'm currently studying with them.
I have learnt in one of the studies that entertaining oneself with movies that has witchcraft/spiritism/magical contents is sin against Jehovah.

I don't watch them again. For example, I stopped watching American Idol magic shows after having that study.

So it's very wrong to call JWs occultic and they don't practice anything idolatry or any form of witchcraft.

Though there might be some of there members that are occultic or practice witchcraft, there are the bad apples.
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:22pm On Aug 07, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
OLÓDO! cheesy

Keep shifting the goal post after been outwitted smartly!
I only engaged you intelligently to show you that you're completely empty.
First you're supporting Catholics for hospitals and i told you that's not what Jesus sent his followers to do. Next you started insulting me for telling you the truth but i kept insisting that hospitals aren't what Jesus sent his disciples to go and build. And by the end you condemned the works of the so called hospitals and now you want to claim miracles should be the solution to sicknesses shey?

Well i never claimed we are miracle workers so if you don't know what to say again why not just shut up? cheesy
Kikikikikikiki ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, where did I shifted the goal post? Did you think I won't stand on my words? I am only exposing your ignoramus and LIES to let everyone see the nonsense in your occultist religion, JWs

Yeah I gave Catholic missionaries kudos for building Sacred Heart Hospital in Abeokuta that saves your life. But I asked you these questions if Jesus Christ sent you;

1. To visit hospital for medical care as you did by visiting Sacred Heart Hospital for your healing?

2. To build kingdom hall?

3. To condemned good gesture bestowed to your people in Abeokuta?

4. To use the internet in proclaiming your occultist JW religion abi?

5. To use outdated bags and umbrella with watchtower to proclaim the gospel

UP TILL NOW, la Mat. 7:7 you dey use for your escaping route grin


You at first started using the insultive words when being frustrated and truth making you uncomfortable

Which of the works of the so called hospital did I condemned? grin


Shey your own jesus in your occultist book says you should visit babaláwo for healing and deliverance? You never answer this question likewise
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:37pm On Aug 07, 2022
cornelboy:
Make I explain this to you once and for all.
JWs don't engage in anything that is magical or links with demons.
They don't do spiritism, divination, magic, witchcraft etc.
Welcome on board, your brother ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO MaxInDHouse engaged His elder sister's husband the babaláwo for healing and deliverance


cornelboy:
I'm not a JW but I'm currently studying with them.
I have learnt in one of the studies that entertaining oneself with movies that has witchcraft/spiritism/magical contents is sin against Jehovah.

I don't watch them again. For example, I stopped watching American Idol magic shows after having that study.

So it's very wrong to call JWs occultic and they don't practice anything idolatry or any form of witchcraft.

Though there might be some of there members that are occultic or practice witchcraft, there are the bad apples.
Continue studying with them maybe you will help him answer all his pending questions in due course.

They are occultist because their own religion, JWs DON'T condemned traditional medicines, their own religion can visit babaláwo for healing and deliverance since they are not against traditional medicines


MaxInDHouse:
You people are pagans claiming believers!

Neither Jesus nor his disciples build hospitals the ones the whitemen build are for colonization. Though you people don't know the difference between faith and credulity, you just feel like since whitemen brought an idea and it's working then it belongs to Jesus.
For your information they stole your glory with those hospitals, instead of our people to work hand in hand with what they brought they condemned our traditional medicines as if they can cure everything.
Well i've told you the bitter truth, schools and hospitals has nothing to do with Christianity Jesus preached God's Kingdom not social amenities Sir!
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 7:42am On Aug 08, 2022
[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115488812][/quote]
Welcome on board, your brother ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO MaxInDHouse engaged His elder sister's husband the babaláwo for healing and deliverance
Okay. But don't make big deal out small irrelevant matters like this and don't kill yourself, high blood pressure and hypertension is real.
Your very naive and just jump to conclusions without checking facts and reasoning. Or you do that out of your hatred for JWs.

Continue studying with them maybe you will help him answer all his pending questions in due course.
Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.

They are occultist because their own religion, JWs DON'T condemned traditional medicines, their own religion can visit babaláwo for healing and deliverance since they are not against traditional medicines
All you need is just a small search on Google.
Traditional medicine doesn't link with witchcraft, sorcery, spiritism etc.
It just a old local way of treating people before the emergence of modern medicine.

The Chinese, Europeans, native Americans etc. have it.

There was a nurse in our area in Ondo state, she was very skilled in making herbs and people patronised her. She attended a Pentecostal church. She never did rituals or make charm for anyone. My mother ever patronised her once and her service was quite expensive.
She was just skilled in using traditional medicines (various herbs) to cure diseases. She died last year though.

So I'll say again, JWs don't do anything that Jehovah detest or against the Bible, Jehovah God's Word.

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 7:42am On Aug 08, 2022
[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115488812][/quote]
Welcome on board, your brother ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO MaxInDHouse engaged His elder sister's husband the babaláwo for healing and deliverance
Okay. But don't make big deal out small irrelevant matters like this and don't kill yourself, high blood pressure and hypertension is real.
Your very naive and just jump to conclusions without checking facts and reasoning. Or you do that out of your hatred for JWs.

Continue studying with them maybe you will help him answer all his pending questions in due course.
Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.

They are occultist because their own religion, JWs DON'T condemned traditional medicines, their own religion can visit babaláwo for healing and deliverance since they are not against traditional medicines
All you need is just a small search on Google.
Traditional medicine doesn't link with witchcraft, sorcery, spiritism etc.
It just a old local way of treating people before the emergence of modern medicine.

The Chinese, Europeans, native Americans etc. have it.

There was a nurse in our area in Ondo state, she was very skilled in making herbs and people patronised her. She attended a Pentecostal church. She never did rituals or make charm for anyone. My mother ever patronised her once and her service was quite expensive.
She was just skilled in using traditional medicines (various herbs) to cure diseases. She died last year though.

So I'll say again, JWs don't do anything that Jehovah detest or against the Bible, Jehovah God's Word.

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:00am On Aug 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay. But don't make big deal out small irrelevant matters like this and don't kill yourself, high blood pressure and hypertension is real.
Your very naive and just jump to conclusions without checking facts and reasoning. Or you do that out of your hatred for JWs.
Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.
All you need is just a small search on Google.
Traditional medicine doesn't link with witchcraft, sorcery, spiritism etc.
It just a old local way of treating people before the emergence of modern medicine.

The Chinese, Europeans, native Americans etc. have it.
There was a nurse in our area in Ondo state, she was very skilled in making herbs and people patronised her. She attended a Pentecostal church. She never did rituals or make charm for anyone. My mother ever patronised her once and her service was quite expensive.
She was just skilled in using traditional medicines (various herbs) to cure diseases. She died last year though.
So I'll say again, JWs don't do anything that Jehovah detest or against the Bible, Jehovah God's Word.
He's just one of those nuisance that jump into abusive speeches when they're corrected!

The thread is about benefits of Islam and of course all sane individuals know that there is no benefit in false religion. So to make there own religion look better they're trying to point out the establishment of colonial masters who built schools and hospitals to booster their political ambitions. I told them schools and hospitals are good but that's not what Jesus commissioned Christianity for so a handful of them came with insults but i stood my ground.
At last the idiot condemned medicines including injections, tablets and capsules that's used in all hospitals just because he wants to criticize traditional medicines.
They don't know the difference between a herbalist and a spiritualist so anytime they hear the word HERBALIST (Traditional doctor) they think it's the same as SPIRITUALIST (Diviner) Nollywood movies has totally blurred their senses to the extent they can't even distinguish between a magician and preacher, now for anyone to PREACH what is acceptable to them the preacher must perform magic to prove he's real.
No wonder all those magicians we do watch on tvs in the 70s and 80s are now performing their magical acts in front of large audience inside huge buildings they're calling church and faithless ones like this one will be there claiming he's a Christian, whatever those magicians demands from them they will pay after all entertainment is not free from time immemorial nah! smiley
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:00am On Aug 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay. But don't make big deal out small irrelevant matters like this and don't kill yourself, high blood pressure and hypertension is real.
Your very naive and just jump to conclusions without checking facts and reasoning. Or you do that out of your hatred for JWs.
You can gather yourselves in hundreds, I will deal with you all thoroughly. Even if you like use different monika, I will still address your ignorant.

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO in his super story said he visited Babaláwo for healing and deliverance. As a Christian in which he claimed he was while others are politicians, did Jesus taught him to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance? You should ask for the proof where he said such rather them putting mouth into the matter that doesn't consign you. Both of you should just relax, na me go finish you kpatakpata with frustration and the truth grin


MaxInDHouse:
You didn't even know how it goes but simply because i was taken there you've concluded it's the hospital that kept me alive shey?

Well i'll tell the story. I got sick and the sickness persisted until i was carried there, they wanted to transfused me with blood, i objected because i've been studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but since i can only make signals and can't talk, my mom who was not a witness gave the doctors and nurses the go ahead. After the transfusion things got worse and they told my mom that i should be transferred to another hospital in Ìbàdàn, that was when my elder sister who married an herbalist in Abéòkúta came with her husband and the man took my case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred me to a man from Benin republic who later treated me. He gave me a medicine that drained the transfused blood from my system before he commence his own treatment and that's the person that saved my life not the Catholic hospital. Of course that doesn't mean they can't treat people but in my case i learned that blood transfusion can kill just as the JWs believe and that's what strengthen my faith more in the teachings of JWs.
Building hospital by catholic missionaries that saves his life doesn't make catholic missionaries Christians but visiting babaláwo is what that makes you Christians in your occultist religion, JWs


cornelboy:
Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.
So one of the fruit of your own holy spirit in your occultist religion, JWs is to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance right?


cornelboy:
All you need is just a small search on Google.
Traditional medicine doesn't link with witchcraft, sorcery, spiritism etc.
It just a old local way of treating people before the emergence of modern medicine.

The Chinese, Europeans, native Americans etc. have it.
I don't need google, it is his own words and statements I'm using to expose his LIES and ignorant, so therefore I don't need any google searching machine.

In your own occultist religion, JWs, who taught you to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance, is it Jehovah, Jesus Christ, Holy spirit or Mr. Nathan H. Knorr? Or in your occultist religion, YOU CAN SERVE GOD WITH MAMMON? In your own religion, darkness and light can work together abi?


cornelboy:
There was a nurse in our area in Ondo state, she was very skilled in making herbs and people patronised her. She attended a Pentecostal church. She never did rituals or make charm for anyone. My mother ever patronised her once and her service was quite expensive.
She was just skilled in using traditional medicines (various herbs) to cure diseases. She died last year though.
Will you help him to answer these questions, Since he's a Christian while others are politicians and claiming to be following the teachings of Jesus Christ

1. Did Jesus Christ taught you guys to visit hospital for medical care as your brother did by visiting Sacred Heart Hospital for his medical attention?

2. Did Jesus Christ taught you to condemned Catholic missionaries that built hospital for him in Abeokuta while praising his sister babaláwo's husband?

3. Did Jesus Christ taught you to engaged or patronize babaláwo for your healing and deliverance?

cornelboy:
So I'll say again, JWs don't do anything that Jehovah detest or against the Bible, Jehovah God's Word.
So Jehovah taught you to visit babaláwos and to always use their traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance right?
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:19am On Aug 08, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
He's just one of those nuisance that jump into abusive speeches when they're corrected!
But you first of all used and started abusive speeches when being frustrated and truth making you uncomfortable. Should I quote where you used the abusive speeches? So don't cry sogbo ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO


MaxInDHouse:
The thread is about benefits of Islam and of course all sane individuals know that there is no benefit in false religion.
Islam is false religion abi??


MaxInDHouse:
So to make there own religion look better they're trying to point out the establishment of colonial masters who built schools and hospitals to booster their political ambitions.
So up till now you can't differentiate between Colonial masters and Missionaries abi?

Definitely, Mr Charles Taze Russell is also a Colonial master and politician that founded your occultist religion, JWs Or Mr Charles na African? grin


MaxInDHouse:
I told them schools and hospitals are good but that's not what Jesus commissioned Christianity for so a handful of them came with insults but i stood my ground.
You started the insults when being frustrated and truth making you uncomfortable.

But we asked you if Jesus Christ commission the use of internet that you are using today, if Jesus commission printing of watchtower pamphlets that you are using today? Up till now you never answer these questions


MaxInDHouse:
At last the idiot condemned medicines including injections, tablets and capsules that's used in all hospitals just because he wants to criticize traditional medicines.
Buhahahaha I know you've been frustrated already. These are what I asked you about capsules, injections, tablets and your visit to your sister babaláwo's husband for healing and deliverance

Since you're the only Christians in your occultist JWs religion that are following the teachings of Jesus Christ while others are politicians,


1. Did Jesus Christ taught you to visit hospital for medical attention?

2. Did Jesus Christ taught you to patronize babaláwo since he Jesus Christ couldn't save and deliver you from your sickness and diseases?

3. Did Jesus Christ taught you to take àgbo, tablets, injections and capsules?

All these are questions and not condemnation but you fail to answer


MaxInDHouse:
They don't know the difference between a herbalist and a spiritualist so anytime they hear the word HERBALIST (Traditional doctor) they think it's the same as SPIRITUALIST (Diviner) Nollywood movies has totally blurred their senses to the extent they can't even distinguish between a magician and preacher, now for anyone to PREACH what is acceptable to them the preacher must perform magic to prove he's real.
But you confirmed to us that you visited babaláwo your sister's husband in Abéòkúta that took your case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings grin abi na me write am for you nii?

MaxInDHouse:
Well i'll tell the story. I got sick and the sickness persisted until i was carried there, they wanted to transfused me with blood, i objected because i've been studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but since i can only make signals and can't talk, my mom who was not a witness gave the doctors and nurses the go ahead. After the transfusion things got worse and they told my mom that i should be transferred to another hospital in Ìbàdàn, that was when my elder sister who married an herbalist in Abéòkúta came with her husband and the man took my case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred me to a man from Benin republic who later treated me. He gave me a medicine that drained the transfused blood from my system before he commence his own treatment and that's the person that saved my life not the Catholic hospital. Of course that doesn't mean they can't treat people but in my case i learned that blood transfusion can kill just as the JWs believe and that's what strengthen my faith more in the teachings of JWs.
Shey those Traditionalists are Pastors, Bishops, Evangelists, Prophets, etc nii? grin

You can tell us the different between your traditional doctors and the servants of God that I listed above


MaxInDHouse:
No wonder all those magicians we do watch on tvs in the 70s and 80s are now performing their magical acts in front of large audience inside huge buildings they're calling church and faithless ones like this one will be there claiming he's a Christian, whatever those magicians demands from them they will pay after all entertainment is not free from time immemorial nah! smiley
But Jesus Christ performed many miracles, is he also a magician?

Jesus Feeds 5,000 People, what will you say about that?

People are contributing, donating huge amount of money for the work of your occultist religion, JWs. You even have Online donations, the modernized way of your babi allah, asiri abo why not against that grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 8:48pm On Aug 08, 2022
[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115495358][/quote]
You can gather yourselves in hundreds, I will deal with you all thoroughly. Even if you like use different monika, I will still address your ignorant.
Hey mister, why are you so aggressive?
Maybe your a woman, cos it's women that get aggressive like that.

ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO in his super story said he visited Babaláwo for healing and deliverance. As a Christian in which he claimed he was while others are politicians, did Jesus taught him to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance? You should ask for the proof where he said such rather them putting mouth into the matter that doesn't consign you. Both of you should just relax, na me go finish you kpatakpata with frustration and the truth grin
Really?
Abeg relax. No one is fighting war here.

The frustration is kinda written all over you.
You couldn't understand the simple story max narrated.

Max was trying to show you that blood transfusion is not 100% reliable. It fails some times.

You also need to understand that max close relatives and siblings were not even Christians. Max was a Muslim still studying the Bible with the Bible when he was taken to the BABALÁWO, his sister husband. And the BABALÁWO referred him to a herbalist.

You need to understand that a babalawo is very different from a herbalist.
A herbalist simply deals with herbs to treat illness while a babalawo is a spiritist or enchanter or witch.

So a real Christian can consult a herbalist. There's nothing wrong in it.
But a Christian can't consultant a babalawo or any person that is a spiritist.


Building hospital by catholic missionaries that saves his life doesn't make catholic missionaries Christians but visiting babaláwo is what that makes you Christians in your occultist religion, JWs
Stop mixing things up abeg.

JWs are not taught to consult babaláwos.

So one of the fruit of your own holy spirit in your occultist religion, JWs is to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance right?
Calm down.
Max even never said that.

I don't need google, it is his own words and statements I'm using to expose his LIES and ignorant, so therefore I don't need any google searching machine.
That means you'd continue to wallow in your ignorance.

1. Did Jesus Christ taught you guys to visit hospital for medical care as your brother did by visiting Sacred Heart Hospital for his medical attention?
2. Did Jesus Christ taught you to condemned Catholic missionaries that built hospital for him in Abeokuta while praising his sister babaláwo's husband?
3. Did Jesus Christ taught you to engaged or patronize babaláwo for your healing and deliverance?
No to all your irrelevant questions.

So Jehovah taught you to visit babaláwos and to always use their traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance right?
Don't die before your time abeg.
This frustration too much.

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:38pm On Aug 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Hey mister, why are you so aggressive?
Maybe your a woman, cos it's women that get aggressive like that.
Aggressive for telling you to gather yourselves in hundreds here that I will address your dilemma and ignorant abi? grin


cornelboy:
Really?
Abeg relax. No one is fighting war here.
So exposing the LIES in your occultist religion, JWs and the ignorant in your life means someone is fighting war with you right?


cornelboy:
The frustration is kinda written all over you.
You couldn't understand the simple story max narrated.
Who are you frustrating, grin I told you that I'll use his words against him, I will expose all his lies and the mistakes he made against him and you called that frustration?

So I couldn't understand his super story when he said to have visited babaláwo his sister's husband in Abéòkúta that took his case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings grin is that difficult for you to comprehend, abi na me write the story for him?


cornelboy:
Max was trying to show you that blood transfusion is not 100% reliable. It fails some times.
So it's visiting babaláwo that's realible and he called himself a Christian that's following the teaching of Jesus Christ, shey Jesus taught you to engaged babaláwo for your healing and deliverance?


cornelboy:
You also need to understand that max close relatives and siblings were not even Christians. Max was a Muslim still studying the Bible with the Bible when he was taken to the BABALÁWO, his sister husband. And the BABALÁWO referred him to a herbalist.
You jumped into the discussion, you pokenose into the matter that doesn't consign you without not knowing where we started from. PUMA is your second name bobo

As your brother said, he got baptized in 2014 and was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital in 2002 but still supporting traditional medicines in July, 2022 while in one of his post, he said he was born into JWs family, can you see his LIES and contradictions? That is why I'm here for you guys to keep on exposing you and your occultist religion, JWs


Did your own Jesus taught you to go for traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance?


cornelboy:
You need to understand that a babalawo is very different from a herbalist.
A herbalist simply deals with herbs to treat illness while a babalawo is a spiritist or enchanter or witch.
Maybe I should be teaching you too Yoruba as I did for your brother.

Oníṣègùn ibile is an herbalist, Onisegun often use divine method with isègùn (eerindinlogun, agbigba etc). Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn often do isègùn on daily basis

Your brother confirmed to us that he visited his sister's husband that took his case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred him to a man from Benin republic who later treated me.


cornelboy:
So a real Christian can consult a herbalist. There's nothing wrong in it.
So your own Christian in your occultist religion, JWs can consult Oníṣègùn that often do isègùn on daily basis right? Is your own jesus not mighty to heal your sickness and diseases?

[b]Is this how you practice your own Christian that means Christ-like in your own occultist religion by consulting Oníṣègùn abi?



cornelboy:
But a Christian can't consultant a babalawo or any person that is a spiritist.[/b]
A true Christians has no right to consult Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn. Jesus Christ is all in all, he has power to heal, to bless, etc. So ask yourself, are you guys in JWs a true Christians? NO


cornelboy:
Stop mixing things up abeg.

JWs are not taught to consult babaláwos.
But your brother visited babaláwo and he affirmed his support for traditional medicines, shey Jesus Christ taught you to use traditional medicines for your healing? NO

YOUR RELIGION, JWs is an occultist


cornelboy:
Calm down.
Max even never said that.
You said building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit

Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.


I am now asking you is if one of the fruit of your own holy spirit in your occultist religion, JWs is to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance?



cornelboy:
That means you'd continue to wallow in your ignorance.
So google is now your Messiah abi? I don't need google, it is from your words and statements I'll use to expose your LIES and ignorant, so therefore I don't need any google searching machine.


cornelboy:
No to all your irrelevant questions.
Relevant or irrelevant, tell your brother from your occultist religion, JWs MaxInDHouse that the questions he refused to answer is NO to all the questions


cornelboy:
Don't die before your time abeg.
This frustration too much.
So for asking you this question to you means frustration abi? grin aswear you are a disgrace to your occultist religion

ANTIlSLAM:
Shey Jehovah taught you to visit babaláwos and to always use their traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance right?.
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 2:18am On Aug 09, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
Aggressive for telling you to gather yourselves in hundreds here that I will address your dilemma and ignorant abi? grin
So exposing the LIES in your occultist religion, JWs and the ignorant in your life means someone is fighting war with you right?
Who are you frustrating, grin I told you that I'll use his words against him, I will expose all his lies and the mistakes he made against him and you called that frustration?
So I couldn't understand his super story when he said to have visited babaláwo his sister's husband in Abéòkúta that took his case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings grin is that difficult for you to comprehend, abi na me write the story for him?
So it's visiting babaláwo that's realible and he called himself a Christian that's following the teaching of Jesus Christ, shey Jesus taught you to engaged babaláwo for your healing and deliverance?
You jumped into the discussion, you pokenose into the matter that doesn't consign you without not knowing where we started from. PUMA is your second name bobo
As your brother said, he got baptized in 2014 and was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital in 2002 but still supporting traditional medicines in July, 2022 while in one of his post, he said he was born into JWs family, can you see his LIES and contradictions? That is why I'm here for you guys to keep on exposing you and your occultist religion, JWs
Did your own Jesus taught you to go for traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance?
Maybe I should be teaching you too Yoruba as I did for your brother.
Oníṣègùn ibile is an herbalist, Onisegun often use divine method with isègùn (eerindinlogun, agbigba etc). Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn often do isègùn on daily basis
Your brother confirmed to us that he visited his sister's husband that took his case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred him to a man from Benin republic who later treated me.
So your own Christian in your occultist religion, JWs can consult Oníṣègùn that often do isègùn on daily basis right? Is your own jesus not mighty to heal your sickness and diseases?
Is this how you practice your own Christian that means Christ-like in your own occultist religion by consulting Oníṣègùn abi?
A true Christians has no right to consult Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn. Jesus Christ is all in all, he has power to heal, to bless, etc. So ask yourself, are you guys in JWs a true Christians? NO
But your brother visited babaláwo and he affirmed his support for traditional medicines, shey Jesus Christ taught you to use traditional medicines for your healing? NO
YOUR RELIGION, JWs is an occultist
You said building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit
Lol. Max know a lot more than me.
Actually about the hospital issue, all you need to do is put away your arrogance and agree with him that building hospitals is not one of the fruits of the holy spirit or the assignment Jesus gave his disciples.

I am now asking you is if one of the fruit of your own holy spirit in your occultist religion, JWs is to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance?
So google is now your Messiah abi? I don't need google, it is from your words and statements I'll use to expose your LIES and ignorant, so therefore I don't need any google searching machine.
Relevant or irrelevant, tell your brother from your occultist religion, JWs MaxInDHouse that the questions he refused to answer is NO to all the questions
So for asking you this question to you means frustration abi? grin aswear you are a disgrace to your occultist religion
I used to think you were smart but I'm starting to think otherwise.

Show me where Max said Christians can consult a Babaláwo and spiritists, can you?
Max never said you can consult a babalawo as a Christian.

And how's that story in the past of any relevance now?
You saw it yourself that Max wasn't even a JW then, he was just studying with them. Neither were his family Christians. They were Muslims.

A herbalist is simply someone that deals in medicinal herbs.

Even some drugs today are made from herbs and plants. So it doesn't matter whether you used herbs or drugs or consulted a "herbalist" or a doctor.
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:16am On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
I used to think you were smart but I'm starting to think otherwise.
I'm smart, intelligent, well learned, etc you can't be lying and think you can go scot-free, NO guy, I will surely expose you

cornelboy:
Show me where Max said Christians can consult a Babaláwo and spiritists, can you?
Max never said you can consult a babalawo as a Christian.
Is like you have comprehension difficulties you this MAX P.R.O. We've discussed this issue you brought back again. See Mr P.R.O, I hate repeating myself, if you're not blind pls make effective use of your sight organ and always read all my comments before responding


ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO in his super story said he visited Babaláwo for healing and deliverance. As a Christian in which he claimed he was while others are politicians, did Jesus taught him to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance? You should ask for the proof where he said such rather them putting mouth into the matter that doesn't consign you. Both of you should just relax, na me go finish you kpatakpata with frustration and the truth grin


cornelboy:
And how's that story in the past of any relevance now?
Another treated issue brought back as usual, bobo always read all my comments, don't be too eager responding.

You jumped into the discussion, you pokenose into the matter that doesn't consign you without not knowing where we started from. PUMA is your second name bobo

As your brother said, he got baptized in 2014 and was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital in 2002 but still supporting traditional medicines in July, 2022 while in one of his post, he said he was born into JWs family, can you see his LIES and contradictions? That is why I'm here for you guys to keep on exposing you and your occultist religion, JWs


Did your own Jesus taught you to go for traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance?


cornelboy:
You saw it yourself that Max wasn't even a JW then, he was just studying with them. Neither were his family Christians. They were Muslims.
So he was still studying with JWs in this 2022 when he shown his supports for onisegun/babaláwo and traditional medicines abi? In one of his post in the past, he said he was born into a Christian family, Ask your brother WHY HE LOVES TO LIE


cornelboy:
A herbalist is simply someone that deals in medicinal herbs.
Bobo you are a Yoruba boy like your brother and you can read and write in Yoruba language. I've explained this earlier maybe you wish to look away or your sight organ not working perfectly. I keep on telling this to always read all my comments before responding

Oníṣègùn ibile is an herbalist, Onisegun often use divine method with isègùn (eerindinlogun, agbigba etc). Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn often do isègùn on daily basis


Oníṣègùn (herbalist) don't only use ewe, gbongbo and egbo igi alone, they also deal with anything that has to do with íṣègùn (charm) like ogun owo (money ritual), ogun ika, etc. You are all Yorubas, you know all these so stop pretending, you can't cover yourself up here, I WILL SURELY EXPOSE YOU


cornelboy:
Even some drugs today are made from herbs and plants. So it doesn't matter whether you used herbs or drugs or consulted a "herbalist" or a doctor.
So traditional doctor and medical doctor are the same abi? Or Shey Medical doctors can do money ritual for you like your Oníṣègùn you guys is promoting here?
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 1:47pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy shey you too don humble as I don humble your brother MaxInDHouse
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 2:36pm On Aug 09, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
I'm smart, intelligent, well learned, etc you can't be lying and think you can go scot-free, NO guy, I will surely expose you
Is like you have comprehension difficulties you this MAX P.R.O. We've discussed this issue you brought back again. See Mr P.R.O, I hate repeating myself, if you're not blind pls make effective use of your sight organ and always read all my comments before responding
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO in his super story said he visited Babaláwo for healing and deliverance. As a Christian in which he claimed he was while others are politicians, did Jesus taught him to engaged babaláwo for healing and deliverance? You should ask for the proof where he said such rather them putting mouth into the matter that doesn't consign you. Both of you should just relax, na me go finish you kpatakpata with frustration and the truth grin
Another treated issue brought back as usual, bobo always read all my comments, don't be too eager responding.
You jumped into the discussion, you pokenose into the matter that doesn't consign you without not knowing where we started from. PUMA is your second name bobo
As your brother said, he got baptized in 2014 and was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital in 2002 but still supporting traditional medicines in July, 2022 while in one of his post, he said he was born into JWs family, can you see his LIES and contradictions? That is why I'm here for you guys to keep on exposing you and your occultist religion, JWs
Did your own Jesus taught you to go for traditional medicines for your healing and deliverance?
So he was still studying with JWs in this 2022 when he shown his supports for onisegun/babaláwo and traditional medicines abi? In one of his post in the past, he said he was born into a Christian family, Ask your brother WHY HE LOVES TO LIE
Bobo you are a Yoruba boy like your brother and you can read and write in Yoruba language. I've explained this earlier maybe you wish to look away or your sight organ not working perfectly. I keep on telling this to always read all my comments before responding
Oníṣègùn ibile is an herbalist, Onisegun often use divine method with isègùn (eerindinlogun, agbigba etc). Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn often do isègùn on daily basis
Oníṣègùn (herbalist) don't only use ewe, gbongbo and egbo igi alone, they also deal with anything that has to do with íṣègùn (charm) like ogun owo (money ritual), ogun ika, etc. You are all Yorubas, you know all these so stop pretending, you can't cover yourself up here, I WILL SURELY EXPOSE YOU
So traditional doctor and medical doctor are the same abi? Or Shey Medical doctors can do money ritual for you like your Oníṣègùn you guys is promoting here?
If you are really smart, intelligent and well learned, there's no way you could spell CONCERN as consign.

Pls stop embarrassing yourself.
No where on nairaland did Max say a Christian could consult a Babaláwo or a spiritist or a witch doctor etc.

He was taken to that babaláwo by her unbelieving family. His relatives were Muslims not Christians.

A herbalist is very different from a Babaláwo. Go and check facts.

A Babaláwo is a proper noun for an ifa priest. A herbalist just deals with medicinal herbs plants.
I gave you an example that my mum once consulted an herbalist. She was a nurse and also skilled in herbs. She was an herbalist.
Normally, my mum wouldn't patronise a a babalawo or anyone that's a spiritist, magician, enchanter or a witch.

In conclusion, being a herbalist isn't same as being a Babaláwo.
But a person could be a Babaláwo and also a herbalist at the same time.

See your only exposing your ignorance here cheesy cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 2:52pm On Aug 09, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
cornelboy shey you too don humble as I don humble your brother MaxInDHouse
Baby girl, your arrogance is something else.
I'll give you the attention your craving for though cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 3:07pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Baby girl, your arrogance is something else.
I'll give you the attention your craving for though cheesy
I'm not a girl buhahaha I don reset you to something else grin

Shey when truth is hitting you hard you called it Arrogant in your occultist religion, JWs right?
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 3:18pm On Aug 09, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
I'm not a girl buhahaha I don reset you to something else grin
Shey when truth is hitting you hard you called it Arrogant in your occultist religion, JWs right?
Only girls react the way you do cheesy

TRUTH or you wanted to say ignorance? cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Only girls react the way you do cheesy
TRUTH or you wanted to say ignorance? cheesy
Desperation can turn people against their right senses. After all his blunders he decided to get dirty but i followed him intelligently until his stupidity became obvious! wink
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 7:48pm On Aug 09, 2022
[quote author=ANTIlSLAM post=115538126][/quote]Mr well learned, Luke, one of Jesus followers and the writer of the third gospel was an Oníṣègùn bwahahahaha cheesy cheesy

Colossians 4:14

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:26pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Mr well learned, Luke, one of Jesus followers and the writer of the third gospel was an Oníṣègùn bwahahahaha cheesy cheesy
Colossians 4:14
Chai Cornelboy don spoil show! undecided

I was expecting his cohorts to show their faces as he's just running from pillar to post trying to cover his shameless tracks.

Using the Yorùbá translation will show everyone how pride is killing him but i decided to keep him in suspense while he's displaying stupidity! smiley
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by cornelboy(f): 9:13pm On Aug 09, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Chai Cornelboy don spoil show! undecided
I was expecting his cohorts to show their faces as he's just running from pillar to post trying to cover his shameless tracks.
Using the Yorùbá translation will show everyone how pride is killing him but i decided to keep him in suspense while he's displaying stupidity! smiley
Nobody can support him na.
Person wey don go miss road since.
Instead make him humble and learn from JWs cheesy cheesy
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Nobody can support him na.
Person wey don go miss road since.
Instead make him humble and learn from JWs cheesy cheesy
They are all ashamed to continue supporting him after their blind arguments! wink
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m):
cornelboy:
you are really smart, intelligent and well learned, there's no way you could spell CONCERN as consign.
Is that your own tactic to jakpa, la Mat. 7:7 the escaping channel your brother is applying here

Anyways, it is Arrogant and not arrogance

cornelboy:
Baby girl, your arrogance is something else.
I'll give you the attention your craving for thoug
It is ignorant and not ignorance

cornelboy:
See your only exposing your ignorance here 
cornelboy:
Pls stop embarrassing yourself.
No where on nairaland did Max say a Christian could consult a Babaláwo or a spiritist or a witch doctor etc.
Did you have comprehensive difficulties in comprehending the super story of your brother?

Your brother is a Christian while others are politicians. On July 2022, your brother affirmed his support for onísègùn that deals with anything isègùn (i.e. òogùn and ewè òogùn) in traditional way. He even said Bible supports traditional ways of healing through Isègùn and I asked him to quote a Bible verse where his own Jesus that he's following his teachings heal people through ewè oogùn (Traditonal medicines) or where Jesus Christ supports onísègùn, up till now he never answer the questions. So in his super story what is he trying to insinuate? That your own Christians in your occultist religion, JWs can engaged onísègùn since his own Jesus supports it



MaxInDHouse:
Well i'll tell the story. I got sick and the sickness persisted until i was carried there, they wanted to transfused me with blood, i objected because i've been studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but since i can only make signals and can't talk, my mom who was not a witness gave the doctors and nurses the go ahead. After the transfusion things got worse and they told my mom that i should be transferred to another hospital in Ìbàdàn, that was when my elder sister who married an herbalist in Abéòkúta came with her husband and the man took my case to the meeting of all the traditionalist meetings where they referred me to a man from Benin republic who later treated me. He gave me a medicine that drained the transfused blood from my system before he commence his own treatment and that's the person that saved my life not the Catholic hospital. Of course that doesn't mean they can't treat people but in my case i learned that blood transfusion can kill just as the JWs believe and that's what strengthen my faith more in the teachings of JWs.
As your brother said, he got baptized in 2014 and was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital in 2002 but still supporting traditional medicines in July, 2022 while in one of his past post, he said he was born into a Christian's family, can you see his LIES and contradictions?


cornelboy:
He was taken to that babaláwo by her unbelieving family. His relatives were Muslims not Christians.
In one of his past post, he said he was born into a Christian's family, why is he lying?


cornelboy:
A herbalist is very different from a Babaláwo. Go and check facts.

A Babaláwo is a proper noun for an ifa priest. A herbalist just deals with medicinal herbs plants.
This is the third time I'll be addressing this issue with you, wait ARE YOU BLIND?


cornelboy:
Bobo you are a Yoruba boy like your brother and you can read and write in Yoruba language. I've explained this earlier maybe you wish to look away or your sight organ not working perfectly. I keep on telling this to always read all my comments before responding

Oníṣègùn ibile is an herbalist, Onisegun often use divine method with isègùn (eerindinlogun, agbigba etc). Adáhunse, Babaláwo and Oníṣègùn often do isègùn on daily basis


Oníṣègùn (herbalist) don't only use ewe, gbongbo and egbo igi alone, they also deal with anything that has to do with íṣègùn (charm) like ogun owo (money ritual), ogun ika, etc. You are all Yorubas, you know all these so stop pretending, you can't cover yourself up here, I WILL SURELY EXPOSE YOU
Onísègùn also deal with anything ritual not only ewe òogùn alone

https://www.bbc.com/yoruba/afrika-59163416





cornelboy:
I gave you an example that my mum once consulted an herbalist. She was a nurse and also skilled in herbs. She was an herbalist.
Normally, my mum wouldn't patronise a a babalawo or anyone that's a spiritist, magician, enchanter or a witch.
If your mum is a true Christian why engaging onísègùn for traditional medicines?


cornelboy:
In conclusion, being a herbalist isn't same as being a Babaláwo.
But a person could be a Babaláwo and also a herbalist at the same time.

See your only exposing your ignorance here cheesy cheesy
I've address this issue above, read more on babaláwo, onísègùn and adáhunse. Below is an attached picture of what onísègùn is up to

Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:21pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Mr well learned, Luke, one of Jesus followers and the writer of the third gospel was an Oníṣègùn bwahahahaha cheesy cheesy

Colossians 4:14
SEE AWON OLODO grin

So up till now you can't differentiate between Onísègùn oyinbo (Medical doctor) and Onísègùn ibile (Traditional doctor) right? Luke never applied the use of traditional medicines, IF I'M LYING PROVE me wrong with your own evidence from a reliable source lobatan.
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:25pm On Aug 09, 2022
cornelboy:
Only girls react the way you do cheesy

TRUTH or you wanted to say ignorance? cheesy
Tell your occultist brother to refer you to his sister's husband, you're suffering from dilemma grin
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:36am On Aug 10, 2022
ANTIlSLAM:
SEE AWON OLODO grin
So up till now you can't differentiate between Onísègùn oyinbo (Medical doctor) and Onísègùn ibile (Traditional doctor) right? Luke never applied the use of traditional medicines, IF I'M LYING PROVE me wrong with your own evidence from a reliable source lobatan.
Olódo!

Apart from doctorate degrees all doctors are MEDICAL!
Medical connotes those that attend to patients with MEDICINES, so to distinguish between the two you'll say Orthodox doctor (those practicing modern medicine) and Traditional doctor (those practicing traditional medicine)

All of them prescribes MEDICINES made from herbs and roots! wink
Re: What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:00am On Aug 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Olódo!

Apart from doctorate degrees all doctors are MEDICAL!
Medical connotes those that attend to patients with MEDICINES, so to distinguish between the two you'll say Orthodox doctor (those practicing modern medicine) and Traditional doctor (those practicing traditional medicine)

All of them prescribes MEDICINES made from herbs and roots! wink
When will you get sense bayii? grin

What am I saying and what are you saying? Let me ask you this, shey your sister babaláwo's husband attended medical school?

Bobo, you want to use st. Luke to cover up your shame, Luke never applied the use of traditional medicines, since you're a follower of Jesus Christ and not follower of Luke, who taught you traditional way of healing and deliverance? When will you answer this?
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