Viruses:

It's not called settling for peanuts, it's called starting from somewhere.

Actually it’s settling for peanuts. You can start from somewhere with better paying jobs. We need to dead this mindset that we have to start from scratch with jobs in fields we are well versed in unless it’s a completely new field. Nigerians get hired from Nigeria and move abroad to well paying jobs. Let’s not set the bar too low for ourselves, it’s very possible to get great paying jobs even if you are a newbie in a city. This isn’t even aspire to maguire, it’s the reality of people that I know that moved here, to the US and to Canada. #peace

Amarathripple0:

Actually it’s settling for peanuts. You can start from somewhere with better paying jobs. We need to dead this mindset that we have to start from scratch with jobs in fields we are well versed in unless it’s a completely new field. Nigerians get hired from Nigeria and move abroad to well paying jobs. Let’s not set the bar too low for ourselves, it’s very possible to get great paying jobs even if you are a newbie in a city. This isn’t even aspire to maguire, it’s the reality of people that I know that moved here, to the US and to Canada. #peace

We know una type, person like you will even accept less until something better comes but will come to social media to put others under high tension.

No offence intended please.

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Odenigbo25:
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Viruses:


We know una type, person like you will even accept less until something better comes but will come to social media to put others under high tension.

No offence intended please.

Lol you do not know Jack about me. If you think poorly of yourself and set the bar low for your career then that’s on you. Don’t project your insecurities on me. Remain blessed because I will not come online to fight faceless people.

You are very right, those who don’t believe don’t have to believe. You might be earning £20 per hour as a carer if you work for an agency, depending on the type of agency you work for/your role… Got here December last year, started with an agency who was paying £11.5, felt the money wasn’t enough, moved to another agency paying £20 per hour on weekdays, £25 on weekends… Same Healthcare Job… Still heard about another agency that pay as high as £30 per hour but not currently recruiting HCA… Bottom line is, £11 per hour is really a small amount to some people even way before they came here…

All the best

Amarathripple0:

Actually it’s settling for peanuts. You can start from somewhere with better paying jobs. We need to dead this mindset that we have to start from scratch with jobs in fields we are well versed in unless it’s a completely new field. Nigerians get hired from Nigeria and move abroad to well paying jobs. Let’s not set the bar too low for ourselves, it’s very possible to get great paying jobs even if you are a newbie in a city. This isn’t even aspire to maguire, it’s the reality of people that I know that moved here, to the US and to Canada. #peace

mintyx:


Thanks so much. I already booked the Airfrance round trip ticket to Nigeria before I realized I'd need the transit visa.

The worst aspect is that I contacted the embassy and tried getting a transit visa from them but the available appointment dates are from October 20th but my journey is in first week of October.

If I cancel the flight, I will get tax refunds and not the full fare.

I'm trying to see if I can get a Schengen visa from one of the easiest countries to get one but my fear is that the visa may still not be ready till first week of October.

Na real one chance I enter so

There are available dates from 1st week of September in the London center, they also do Saturdays I believe. So maybe you can travel down if possible.

Amarathripple0:

I did not want to talk. 22k is shyte pay (excuse my french), earning 22k and after taxes and pension take out, what is the person left with. Please let’s not settle for peanuts all in the name of Japa. I take God beg una.

My first full-time job in this country was as a care worker in a carehome in West London. My pay including overtime was just below circa £15,000/year inclusive of London weighting. I lived in a single room in a shared house in Hammersmith paying £85/week, and I walked to and fro work daily. That £15,000/year was enough for a single man like me then to live on and save a bit on the side. If I talk about the 'shyte pay' jobs I have done in the past in this UK since I entered as a student, it's enough to write a memoir.

My opinion - £22,000 is decent if you are single with no dependants. If you get married and your wife is working and bring in another £20,000, that's circa £40,000 family income which is very good by any standards. Your broader point regarding not settling for peanuts is something I have always advocated, but everyone has to start from somewhere. We all came via different paths, some were lucky and came via work visas and didn't have to hustle like we did back then.

Viruses:

It's not called settling for peanuts, it's called starting from somewhere.

Yea we can start from somewhere but dream big. A former colleague of mine just got a job here from Nigeria in one of this big consulting companies. He resumed last week and was given the level of a manager.

MadeMen4Life:
You are very right, those who don’t believe don’t have to believe. You might be earning £20 per hour as a carer if you work for an agency, depending on the type of agency you work for/your role… Got here December last year, started with an agency who was paying £11.5, felt the money wasn’t enough, moved to another agency paying £20 per hour on weekdays, £25 on weekends… Same Healthcare Job… Still heard about another agency that pay as high as £30 per hour but not currently recruiting HCA… Bottom line is, £11 per hour is really a small amount to some people even way before they came here…

All the best

Bros drop the names of these agencies naw. Na beg i de beg.

claremont:


My first full-time job in this country was as a care worker in a carehome in West London. My pay including overtime was just below circa £15,000/year inclusive of London weighting. I lived in a single room in a shared house in Hammersmith paying £85/week, and I walked to and fro work daily. That £15,000/year was enough for a single man like me then to live on and save a bit on the side. If I talk about the 'shyte pay' jobs I have done in the past in this UK since I entered as a student, it's enough to write a memoir.

My opinion - £22,000 is decent if you are single with no dependants. If you get married and your wife is working and bring in another £20,000, that's circa £40,000 family income which is very good by any standards. Your broader point regarding not settling for peanuts is something I have always advocated, but everyone has to start from somewhere. We all came via different paths, some were lucky and came via work visas and didn't have to hustle like we did back then.

Touché. Now you see how you gave a broader and personal POV without throwing insults. I personally do not like it when people sell themselves short. Anyway, to each their own.

Pls who has used RwandAir here? How is it?

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d8729140-Reviews-or25-RwandAir#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=2&ff=347274494

alongetayo:
Pls who has used RwandAir here? How is it?

Lmao, people saying £22k is shyte pay.

Nairaland isn’t reality sha.

Don’t let anyone on this faceless forum put a pressure on you.

Start from the bottom if you can.

rayralph:
Lmao, people saying £22k is shyte pay.

Nairaland isn’t reality sha.

Don’t let anyone on this faceless forum put a pressure on you.

Start from the bottom if you can.

We know them,
On social media they started earning the salaries of CEOs straight out of school, the story is different in real life.

The bar must be really low. Anyway, I apologise to anyone who was offended by my comment and dare I say motivation. Not Trojan Horse though, I no send your papa!

Anyway, if you are in any tech related field and you want to apply to companies directly then check out otta.com

OR if you want to have companies book interviews with you directly (Not recruiters) Then create a profile on hackajob.co

Also, if you optimise your LinkedIn and Reeds profile, You would practically get stalked by recruiters, some offering below market rate and some offering some decent pay like in the attached. (This can sometimes be irritating sha, especially with those out of the blue phone calls)

Finally, work on your CV, this is extremely important, you can use one of the templates from Harvard and sprinkle it with the blood of Jesus https://hwpi.harvard.edu/files/ocs/files/undergrad_resumes_and_cover_letters.pdf)

And finally, don’t let anyone make you feel like you are dreaming too big. Package and sell yourself. Anyway goodnight! We argue again tomorrow

Even if na 12k per annum u dey earn its okay In as much as you are contented and not borrowing.. Rome wasn’t built on a day

I don't understand why you guys are getting all salty about someone calling £22k/yr shyte pay. It very much is!!! But that does not in anyway mean you shouldn't take it if that's the only option you've got. C'mon we are all adults, do we really need to add a proviso or rider to each statement?
Not settling doesn't equate to sitting idle and because you haven't gotten a £100k job, you can be contented with your £22k/yr and still keep your eyes on the market for better openings. You don't necessarily have to start from the very bottom of the ladder, even if you do, you don't want to be there too long. Employers don't give a damn about loyalty, find something better and switch up.
If you're just coming from Nigeria or haven't been in UK employment for very long, you need to realise that your thoughts and perception are still a bit hazy. You might be comparing your UK pay with the N30,000 private teacher salary you earned in Nigeria and obviously will see the £11/hr pay as big money, but as you move past the euphoria of living in the UK and your taste, lifestyle etc changes, you'll begin to see the reality of things.
Pursue the money, chase it aggressively, those earning 6figs aren't any better than you.
PS: These personal attacks on people offering their opinions are totally unnecessary though, you can choose to accept or ignore the opinion, there's no need for all the vile.

TheGuyFromHR:


Nwoke m,
I nwekwa efe.

Nwanne mmadu,
Biko gbaghara.
I dey usually read and jump and pass the comments wey no get head, but it was the extreme unwisdom of the "22k is shyte pay" talk that got me this time.

Me na the Nigerianophobe, and na for reasons like this wey I dey give Nigerians space, but the one thing I will always give to Nigerians is that we dey hustle well well, because we are a driven people, for a variety of reasons. Nigerian man must succeed, and even though that sometimes pushes people down the wrong path, both here and at home, I certainly don't think that the average Naija man who came here and wey dey hustle to make am for here has "settled for peanuts" because he is doing anything legit he can find to make ends meet.

Me, the Nigerianophobe o, think that is quite derogatory of our people's spirit.

The first sets of people wey come this UK as students came differently in the early 00s. Mostly (if not virtually) all bin dey single, youngish, no pikins (at least for here), ready to slap the streets and do whatever. Many don establish for here. Some didn't end up with what they and Nigerian society consider ideal in terms of work. That's life. It happens to all man. Is that settling? Who knows what everyone's story is? How they came, their backgrounds, what their skills and capabilities are, what their plans for coming here were, how do you judge people by your own standards and not theirs? It is this same mindset that brings up the "Brits are lazy people" talk, because say their government gives people benefits even though there are millions of British people out grafting hard on the streets.

This set of people wey dey come as students dey very different. The number of older people with pikins plenty. Childcare and 2/3 bedroom house rent na the main thing wey people carry as their problems. Some took loans to come with their families and are repaying. Some people don leave school years ago, but are now trying to get used to jacking again while working nights as men in their 40s, not in their 20s. I don do HCA work, I once met a couple of newcomer Nigerian guys here on a shift wey senior me (two of them bin dey discuss the 83 elections like say na yesterday) wey their talk concern wearing the correct shoes and how arch support dey important o when you're on your feet all day, discussing the different types of shoes. That one no be young people talk. Some pages back someone mentioned a sad story of how a lady dropped dead in the midst of working all hours to obviously make ends meet.

UK itself never change, even if the people coming have. Jobs dey, but there is no Father Christmas seated at Heathrow dashing wonderful jobs to people as they enter UK. You go look for the work, get used to the different interview and recruitment systems, polish up/ redo your CV, understand the environment, maybe upskill, etc. Some people are lucky/favoured in that they get something paying quite well relatively quickly. Some get it later. Some will never get their dream job. Again, that is life. It happens to all man.

Those wey siddon for internet dey rubbish our people hustling to make ends meet are part of the problem of Nigerians. It fuels the "get rich or die trying" mentality which is the flip side of our Nigerian drive to succeed which is simultaneously a very good and sometimes a very bad thing. Some weak minded people for don come here, read that kind talk, and quietly decide say starting from somewhere is not for them o, na to hit am big be the koko, and when them start to dey do anyhow as Nigerians can sometimes do, it pulls all of us down collectively.

Amarathripple0:
The bar must be really low. Anyway, I apologise to anyone who was offended by my comment and dare I say motivation. Not Trojan Horse though, I no send your papa!

Anyway, if you are in any tech related field and you want to apply to companies directly then check out otta.com

OR if you want to have companies book interviews with you directly (Not recruiters) Then create a profile on hackajob.co

Also, if you optimise your LinkedIn and Reeds profile, You would practically get stalked by recruiters, some offering below market rate and some offering some decent pay like in the attached. (This can sometimes be irritating sha, especially with those out of the blue phone calls)

Finally, work on your CV, this is extremely important, you can use one of the templates from Harvard and sprinkle it with the blood of Jesus https://hwpi.harvard.edu/files/ocs/files/undergrad_resumes_and_cover_letters.pdf)

And finally, don’t let anyone make you feel like you are dreaming too big. Package and sell yourself. Anyway goodnight! We argue again tomorrow

you did a good job. Nairaland is one big family. If you are in Tech always check the programming section for updates.

Na wa o, people go just dey bed ontop wetin no suppose cause vex. Or na the cost of living crisis or
the heat wave dey cause Una to dey on edge.

We should understand that people are on different journeys and not everyone will get the high paying jobs on landing on the shores of youkay. You know the challenges of immigrants who have papers and have been here a long time to get the high paying ones not to talk about those fresh off the boat, this is not saying the new comers cannot get these jobs. People's circumstances and goals are different, so if it's a 22k job that the person has to start with to get things going I don't see what the problem is. It's only a problem if the person decides to stay there. As circumstances and time passes it will get better.

Please let us live and let live biko. The weather is getting cooler and the incoming PM is promising tax cuts, it will get better.

Please, How do I answer this question please help;

"Does the principal applicant already have their Skilled Worker visa immigration permission?"

please note that we are applying together and it's a Skill worker visa application for dependants.

Thank you for your response

kode12:
I don't understand why you guys are getting all salty about someone calling £22k/yr shyte pay. It very much is!!! But that does not in anyway mean you shouldn't take it if that's the only option you've got. C'mon we are all adults, do we really need to add a proviso or rider to each statement?
Not settling doesn't equate to sitting idle and because you haven't gotten a £100k job, you can be contented with your £22k/yr and still keep your eyes on the market for better openings. You don't necessarily have to start from the very bottom of the ladder, even if you do, you don't want to be there too long. Employers don't give a damn about loyalty, find something better and switch up.
If you're just coming from Nigeria or haven't been in UK employment for very long, you need to realise that your thoughts and perception are still a bit hazy. You might be comparing your UK pay with the N30,000 private teacher salary you earned in Nigeria and obviously will see the £11/hr pay as big money, but as you move past the euphoria of living in the UK and your taste, lifestyle etc changes, you'll begin to see the reality of things.
Pursue the money, chase it aggressively, those earning 6figs aren't any better than you.
PS: These personal attacks on people offering their opinions are totally unnecessary though, you can choose to accept or ignore the opinion, there's no need for all the vile.

Lol.
As if Nigerians need to be told that.
I used to be in the banking industry back when there were like 90 banks or so. For those who remember, bankers used to be jokingly called prostitutes due to the rate at which they switched jobs back then. I have just changed jobs myself, and I know many others who are still hitting me up asking for advice about interviews and stuff, which means they are scaling up or in the process of doing so.

Again, staying with an employer doesn't necessarily mean fear of leaving a job. Back home, for instance, there are many of the big companies where we'd all be dying to work for where a top management role such as head of HR is a highly politicised job, virtually a poisoned chalice. I used to know someone in one company whose phone literally never stopped ringing with calls they simply had to answer, management interference all the way. Literally unable to do the job, even government people disturbing them. After a couple of years, they left, blood pressure all messed up.

I dont think Nigerians coming to the UK are lazy or "settling". Nigerians like good things, we LOVE white collar work like our very lives. I'm quite sure many of us want to be able to tell the people back home "I dey work for [the UK equivalent of] Shell ati Chevron". So I'm sure people are doing their best to hustle work, and not earning what internet pundits believe is good money is not an indicator that one has "settled" for small pay.

That apart, everyone is different. Occupations in demand will always be easier to move up in, generic jobs less so. Tech industry workers are on a roll now, those who came from maybe a banking work background not so much, as bank branches shut en masse, for instance. The UK is a more level playing field than Nigeria was, but the fact that one hasnt yet attained or never does attain a dream job or level is not an indictment on them.

Lmao at ‘internet pundits’ . Awon online influencers

Viruses:


We know una type, person like you will even accept less until something better comes but will come to social media to put others under high tension.

No offence intended please.

�� Social media �� a place where someone without a relationship gives relationship advice

I am about a week old here
Searching for menial job atleast to help me integrate in the system while I still strategies and pursue my dream kinda job
That said
I have the verge of securing two jobs but to choose one.
Sortation operative with amazon
Multi drop delivery driver

Then someone advised I leave it and a run a course on care/support/mental sth that would take three days, cost about £150... Afterwards I would get better job opportunities... Saying health care is the in-thing.

Elders abeg put mouth

Odenigbo25:


�� Social media �� a place where someone without a relationship gives relationship advice

And where Jon Snow forms James Bond

MichaelUde:
Nigerians and expectations. Nothing wey person no go see for here.
About the NHS pay as opposed to care, first, are those saying its worse comparing like for like? Basically, how much per hour does the average care assistant earn as compared to the hourly pay rate for an NHS Band 3? In other words, make una no dey compare person wey dey work 80 hours a week in care to someone working 37.5 hours a week in the NHS on band 3. Of course, someone working 37.5 hours a week fit still work more hours, after all many nurses also work for agencies on weekends,

Correct! I know of one that works over 60 hours a week in a care role and makes an average of £3,500 per month. She looked at me with contempt when I suggested going for a business support assistant job in a council with a monthly salary of about £2,000 and guaranteed pension, clear career path and flexi time.

People are very fortunate that things have opened up in UK after Brexit, if this was 10 -15 years ago when Teresa May was Home Secretary and David Cameron PM, there was a clamp down on visas and the very few jobs that were available were ‘reserved’ for Eastern Europeans, I doubt they will think £22K was peanuts then. I’m sure majority of the older immigrants on here would have experienced this and this explains why we don’t see things from rose tinted glasses.

I asked people to think more for themselves and suddenly I’m getting bashed, like from where to where? Not sure where I insulted anyone or asked anyone to hustle for quick funds because some of these think pieces and comments are mind blowing.

Maybe the UK looks the same to some people because they’ve been here longer but please look around and see the disruptions happening through the tech and fintech space. There are jobs that exist now that didn’t exist 5 to 10 years ago. AI is being integrated into many industries and it’s only just the beginning. Check out Glassdoor and see the salary range for some of these roles.

I agree that saying 22k is "Shyte pay" was insensitive especially as it’s some people’s reality and they are content with it which I must say is commendable and to each their own. However, to me, as someone who would start working full time soon, I would not accept that salary especially with the wealth of experience I have. I also do not believe in "starting from scratch" in your career, just because you are in a new city. Foreigners who move from other countries do not, so as Nigerians, why should we? Some of us worked with global companies back home and if we are able to sell ourselves, we’ll get that job we want (From our mouths to God’s ears). #shalom

jesmond3945:
you did a good job. Nairaland is one big family. If you are in Tech always check the programming section for updates.

Thank you jare, Abeg send me the link to the thread. Thanks

Agreed but one has to start from somewhere na. Not everyone will get £120k a year pay on landing town, some will get some will have to settle for far less before they find their footing. Please lets not make this thing about class or something, encourage humble beginnings.

Amarathripple0:

I did not want to talk. 22k is shyte pay (excuse my french), earning 22k and after taxes and pension take out, what is the person left with. Please let’s not settle for peanuts all in the name of Japa. I take God beg una.