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Step back in the history of Nigerian women's football and apprise us of a time and space when we had as many high profile friendlies with a set period of time?
Played Germany once under Ucheria. What else? Even under Dennerby, which high profile friendly did we play?

YET, under Randy's influence, we played in the Summer Series and have played against the Olympic Champions and performed CREDIBLY! Now, the gates are being open...Japan and possibly South Korea, then the US twice (all within the same year!).
Next year, likely the 'She Believes Cup' and other high profile friendlies.

Those fixtures aren't happenstance - they are based on influence. Randy's influence.

Deltamani:
So you’re telling us clear now that Without Randy NFF won’t be able to organise any international friendly games for the Superfalcons??

With all the quality preparations, Friendly games up and down, tournament and Camp Home and Abroad, was he able to even a Bronze Medal at the WAFCON??

lovewins:
My primary concern with having a new coach is ensuring we get one our Foreign born players can feel at home with.

No doubt, Randy being coach is a major reason many of them are in the team and we must not take that from him.

If we are therefore going for a new coach, it should be someone every player irrespective of their place of birth will feel at home with.

I feel Omagbemi and Akide should fit well since they live and have worked in the US for many years.

I'm quoting this to reiterate in simpler terms what I wrote (not like it isn't simple enough to understand). I've had to separate into paragraphs for the purpose of clarity. How AkinDS read his bias into it still beats me. Here we go.

Paragraph 1: After the news of the possibility of Randy being sacked became public, I began by expressing my desire of getting a new coach that our FB players will find comfortable working with. You'll notice the conversation was centered around Nigerian coaches. The incident with Ucheria Uche comes to mind. Also notice that "Foreign born" was primarily for descriptive purposes.

Paragraph 2: I went ahead to credit Randy as a major reason why these girls chose to play for us in the first place. So how we manage them Vis a Vis a coaching crew change becomes crucial

Paragraph 3: I finally suggested Akide and Omagbemi as successors of Randy chief of the reason being that they've both worked in the US before and transition wouldn't be too difficult.

NB: My position on Randy continuing as coach isn't hidden. I wanted him sacked after the WAFCON, but I've also made peace with the fact that he might remain the coach for the Super Falcons.

Cc: AkinDS

AkinDS:
Step back in the history of Nigerian women's football and apprise us of a time and space when we had as many high profile friendlies with a set period of time?
Played Germany once under Ucheria. What else? Even under Dennerby, which high profile friendly did we play?

YET, under Randy's influence, we played in the Summer Series and have played against the Olympic Champions and performed CREDIBLY! Now, the gates are being open...Japan and possibly South Korea, then the US twice (all within the same year!).
Next year, likely the 'She Believes Cup' and other high profile friendlies.

Those fixtures aren't happenstance - they are based on influence. Randy's influence.

You have obviously shifted the conversation into something entirely different from what we had in the morning. Context matters. We can argue for or against the sack or Randy on this forum and you'll realise that minds are already made up. We've debated this before and it's obvious positions haven't changed. So it's only wise to agree to disagree.

The conversation today however started when news broke of an impending Randy Waldrum sack. The conversation was centered around what happens if he is sacked and not the merit or demerit of him being sacked. When Amaju suggested Randy will remain as Coach, many didn't like it, but made peace with it. The same should apply if for whatever reason Randy is sacked.

AkinDS:
Do you understand the massive benefit Randy has brought to the team through his influence? There is absolutely NO WAY a Nigerian coach (Omagbemi, Nkwocha or anyone else) would have landed the top friendlies he has (US x3, Canada x2 and other high profile friendlies pending). You can take that to the bank and cash it!

We really need to stop fooling ourselves and face up to reality. This is a long term game and Nigeria is about to be left behind big time due to all these myopic decisions.
Never have I seen a country make the same mistakes over and over and over again, yet expecting a different result. We saw what happened with Rohr and the dumb decision made to fire him. Lost out on the AFCON and the world cup. This one will be worse!

Bulls*t... When Thomas Dennerby was in charge, we played some quality friendlies too.. How big is Randy in the US football cycle that he would influence a friendly against the US and Canada for us? As if we haven't been playing against them before...

Yes. Cameroon in 2018 lost at home to Nigeria, but went on to play exceed their expectations in the 2019 WC. That is just one example.
You learn from your mistakes, correct them and use the next competition to improve.

There's very little to learn if you keep winning the WAFCON over and over and over again. That's why, in a sense, I am glad this happened so that we can rectify the weak areas and put a good performance at the more important tournament, the 2023WWC.

Deltamani:
It can never be worse but things will get better, If you can’t play good football at the WAFCON is it at the World Cup?

Which high profile friendly/friendlies?
Kindly name them.

Danielnino00:
Bulls*t... When Thomas Dennerby was in charge, we played some quality friendlies too.. How big is Randy in the US football cycle that he would influence a friendly against the US and Canada for us? As if we haven't been playing against them before...

BTW guys

Okobi is currently on a live chat with David Doherty and OJB on Instagram.

Check team Nigeria UK on Instagram.

AkinDS:
Which high profile friendly/friendlies?
Kindly name them.

Friendly with France and Canada.. Participated in the five nations tournament and the Cyprus women cup...

Dennerby at least used those friendlies well and won us the AWCON...

What has Randy achieved with all the high profile friendlies? .. If he could lead us to our worst AWCON outing in history, what gives the assurance that he would do great at the world cup?
Tell us, just exactly what has improved about the team performance since Randy took over...

Thanks for your attempt at clarifying your initial comments, which were clearly understood.

However, my comments were informed by your paragraph 1, which insinuated the decision HAD already been made and thus my rebuttal, which was to draw your attention to the presumptive notion that all will be well once a Nigerian is given the job.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

lovewins:
I'm quoting this to reiterate in simpler terms what I wrote (not like it isn't simple enough to understand). I've had to separate into paragraphs for the purpose of clarity. How AkinDS read his bias into it still beats me. Here we go.

Paragraph 1: After the news of the possibility of Randy being sacked became public, I began by expressing my desire of getting a new coach that our FB players will find comfortable working with. You'll notice the conversation was centered around Nigerian coaches. The incident with Ucheria Uche comes to mind. Also notice that "Foreign born" was primarily for descriptive purposes.

Okobi just called Randy incompetent.

You guys should join

She's leaving no stone unturned

Nonsense, all i know is Waldrum should have been fired like yesterday, man is clueless.....its very obvious from his selection and substitution, he cant read a game in real time and decipher what is going and act immediately, if not for the cries of nigerians, we would not know that we have a ngolo kante in woman form on the bench (ucheibe). I repeat,Nigeria had the best team talent wise in the last wafcon, but our Nuga coach could not win a bronze and still some people want him to continue after 2 years,still you cant tell what direction the team is going. is it until Malawi start to beat us, and we start dragging position with burundi....You did not play well at Wafcon, but you want to go and perform miracle at world cup.....shaking my head...Waldrum out now abeg...

lovewins:
Okobi just called Randy incompetent.

You guys should join

She's leaving no stone unturned

....ewo...i am tunning in now...jesus....

Catch all the drama here

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lovewins:
Okobi just called Randy incompetent.

You guys should join

She's leaving no stone unturned

E don red .


Pls I'll appreciate it if you can drop me a summary of what she said in the interview...At least the key points...thank you .

Danielnino00:
E don red .


Pls I'll appreciate it if you can drop me a summary of what she said in the interview...At least the key points...thank you .

That’s the truth anyway, if a Coach really have an impact in a team you would see it, That man can read game an make the necessary adjustments…

The loss against South Africa was a painful one, the player’s knows but Randy doesn’t..

Imagine after two years of Coaching the Falcons you still don’t know your first 11 going to the WAFCON, Randy is a joke!

Coach my Foot!

Danielnino00:
E don red .


Pls I'll appreciate it if you can drop me a summary of what she said in the interview...At least the key points...thank you .

I joined late so can't provide a context for how the conversation started. I'll however make inferences for what I saw.

Okobi basically shared he experience with Randy Waldrum and the impact of that experience on her and her family.

First, she alleges that Randy had a negative bias towards her. He allegedly said sited not seeing her play before as an excuse for her not being in the team.

She talked about injury spell (not sure if it was hers or Halimatu Ayinde) and how they were hopeful of being in Morocco. After she didn't get the call and Ayinde did, she gave up hope though Ayinde was still hopeful of her being included.

She received a call much later from Randy after it was confirmed Oparanozie couldn't make the team and took a flight to Abuja to join them.

She claims Randy already had a core team he intended to work with and this had nothing to do with your showing in training. (This was exclusive of herself, Ayinde and Ucheibe but claims Ayinde was included last minute). She expressed her displeasure to the Falcons losing the South African game and blames the loss to technical deficiency.

She alleges that Randy probably reads comments on social media and that was pretty probably why he reluctantly used her in the second game. She claims Randy apologized to her after that game (and did so 3 other times in Morocco) after he witnessed what she brought to the team.

Addendum:

She said something about almost having issues with Asisat (didn't exactly get what the issue was)

Also talked about the conversation she had with Randy about captaincy when it became obvious Onome couldn't continue. Apparently her teammates suggested that she take up the responsibility.

Also talked about the role of the media and the effect that had on players. She alleges the Nigerian Media hypes just one (a few) players to the detriment of the team. She says they all read this and this ultimately doesn't help team spirit.

Moving forward, she didn't mince words in suggesting the successes recorded by the team so far is primarily as a result of individual brilliance and had nothing to do with what the coach's contribute technically invariably suggesting the necessity for a new coach

lovewins:
I joined late so can't provide a context for how the conversation started. I'll however make inferences for what I saw.

Okobi basically shared he experience with Randy Waldrum and the impact of that experience on her and her family.

First, she alleges that Randy had a negative bias towards her. He allegedly said sited not seeing her play before as an excuse for her not being in the team.

She talked about injury spell (not sure if it was hers or Halimatu Ayinde) and how they were hopeful of being in Morocco. After she didn't get the call and Ayinde did, she gave up hope though Ayinde was still hopeful of her being included.

She received a call much later from Randy after it was confirmed Oparanozie couldn't make the team and took a flight to Abuja to join them.

She claims Randy already had a core team he intended to work with and this had nothing to do with your showing in training. (This was exclusive of herself, Ayinde and Ucheibe but claims Ayinde was included last minute). She expressed her displeasure to the Falcons losing the South African game and blames the lose to technical deficiency.

She alleges that Randy probably reads comments on social media and that was pretty probably why he reluctantly used her in the second game. She claims Randy apologized to her after that game (and did so 3 other times in Morocco) after he witnessed what she brought to the team.

Your mind da wella,

lovewins:
I joined late so can't provide a context for how the conversation started. I'll however make inferences for what I saw.

Okobi basically shared he experience with Randy Waldrum and the impact of that experience on her and her family.

First, she alleges that Randy had a negative bias towards her. He allegedly said sited not seeing her play before as an excuse for her not being in the team.

She talked about injury spell (not sure if it was hers or Halimatu Ayinde) and how they were hopeful of being in Morocco. After she didn't get the call and Ayinde did, she gave up hope though Ayinde was still hopeful of her being included.

She received a call much later from Randy after it was confirmed Oparanozie couldn't make the team and took a flight to Abuja to join them.

She claims Randy already had a core team he intended to work with and this had nothing to do with your showing in training. (This was exclusive of herself, Ayinde and Ucheibe but claims Ayinde was included last minute). She expressed her displeasure to the Falcons losing the South African game and blames the lose to technical deficiency.

She alleges that Randy probably reads comments on social media and that was pretty probably why he reluctantly used her in the second game. She claims Randy apologized to her after that game (and did so 3 other times in Morocco) after he witnessed what she brought to the team.

One of the major reason Randy play this girls out of positions just to accommodate them. And one person here is claiming Randy is doing good to the team just because he’s playing Friendly games with USA and Co with no end product…

lovewins:
I joined late so can't provide a context for how the conversation started. I'll however make inferences for what I saw.

Okobi basically shared he experience with Randy Waldrum and the impact of that experience on her and her family.

First, she alleges that Randy had a negative bias towards her. He allegedly said sited not seeing her play before as an excuse for her not being in the team.

She talked about injury spell (not sure if it was hers or Halimatu Ayinde) and how they were hopeful of being in Morocco. After she didn't get the call and Ayinde did, she gave up hope though Ayinde was still hopeful of her being included.

She received a call much later from Randy after it was confirmed Oparanozie couldn't make the team and took a flight to Abuja to join them.

She claims Randy already had a core team he intended to work with and this had nothing to do with your showing in training. (This was exclusive of herself, Ayinde and Ucheibe but claims Ayinde was included last minute). She expressed her displeasure to the Falcons losing the South African game and blames the lose to technical deficiency.

She alleges that Randy probably reads comments on social media and that was pretty probably why he reluctantly used her in the second game. She claims Randy apologized to her after that game (and did so 3 other times in Morocco) after he witnessed what she brought to the team.

Addendum:

She said something about almost having issues with Asisat (didn't exactly get what the issue was)

Also talked about the conversation she had with Randy about captaincy when it became obvious Onome couldn't continue. Apparently her teammates suggested that she take up the responsibility.

Also talked about the role of the media and the effect that had on players. She alleges the Nigerian Media hypes just one (a few) players to the detriment of the team. She says they all read this and this ultimately doesn't help team spirit.

Moving forward, she didn't mince words in suggesting the successes recorded by the team so far is primarily as a result of individual brilliance and had nothing to do with what the coach's contribute technically invariably suggesting the necessity for a new coach

Wow...That's a lot of beans to spill...

If Randy retains his job ahead to the world cup,I'll be very surprised if she gets called up again...

Deltamani:
One of the major reason Randy play this girls out of positions just to accommodate them. And one person here is claiming Randy is doing good to the team just because he’s playing Friendly games with USA and Co with no end product…

Now, we aren't sure if these current crop of u-20 girls will be integrated into the team after the tournament..since it's obvious Randy has his girls already...

Danielnino00:
Wow...That's a lot of beans to spill...

If Randy retains his job ahead to the world cup,I'll be very surprised if she gets called up again...

I have missed feelings about the interview really. While I can't question Okobi for sharing her own experience or on when and how she share it, I'm conflicted about the effect this has on the team.

The no 1 culprit for this will be Randy. The mere fact that she thought it wise to have an impulsive interview of this sort shows he's lost the dressing room. That she's "bold" enough to do this doesn't necessarily mean she's the only one that feels this way.

On the flip side, if I were made coach of the super falcons, Okobi won't be a part of my team moving forward (my opinion o). I'm tried to look at the cost benefit analysis of this interview and can't see how this helps the team holistically. It could further widen the divide already in the team even if a new coach is introduced.

Like I said, mixed feelings

Danielnino00:
Wow...That's a lot of beans to spill...

If Randy retains his job ahead to the world cup,I'll be very surprised if she gets called up again...

Hahaha… I will definitely call Randy out myself

He need to be told the truth, Bold step by Okobi…


By the way USA Megan Rapinoe does more than this, still yet she’s still one of the first veteran than will be listed in the US Squad.

lovewins:
I have missed feeling about the interview really. While I can't question Okobi for sharing her own experience or on when and how she share it, I'm conflicted about the effect this has on the team.

The no 1 culprit for this will be Randy. The mere fact that she thought it wise to have an impulsive interview of this sort shows he's lost the dressing room. That she's "bold" enough to do this doesn't necessarily mean she's the only one that feels this way.

On the flip side, if I were made coach of the super falcons, Okobi won't be a part of my team moving forward (my opinion o). I'm tried to look at the cost benefit analysis of this interview and can't see how this helps the team holistically. It could further widen the divide already in the team even if a new coach is introduced.

Like I said, mixed feelings

To be sincere if not all, most of the Foreign Born players that were at the WAFCON deserve their spot but Playing them out of positions just to accommodate them in the starting 11 was my major issue here..

By the way if a new Coach come in they will still be given a chance because they have all prove enough that they deserve their spot..

Danielnino00:
Bulls*t... When Thomas Dennerby was in charge, we played some quality friendlies too.. How big is Randy in the US football cycle that he would influence a friendly against the US and Canada for us? As if we haven't been playing against them before...

Randy knows many of the big coaches in US Women's Soccer. Including their National team coach.

He is the one who asks for all those friendlies. Houston dash coach, Clarkson, was the one who called him about Alozie. He has contacts within the football ecosystem in North America. Those friendlies are mostly invitations and not organised by NFF. Currently, our men's team are going to play Portugal? Who do you think organised that?

I no longer want to comment on these issues but most of these complaints here are unwarranted. We all saw how the AWCON went, how many coaches including the ones y'all are mentioning would have pulled back the trophy after such setbacks.

FEAR of the Nigerian Media won’t allow Randy Waldrum Drop Okobi bet me….

If he does i will be the first to set the Fireeeeeeeeeee…. And it won’t take a minute before it explodes..

Deltamani:
Hahaha… I will definitely call Randy out myself

He need to be told the truth, Bold step by Okobi…


By the way USA Megan Rapinoe does more than this, still yet she’s still one of the first veteran than will be listed in the US Squad.

The difference though is that she for the most part speaks for the team. She's more or less their mouthpiece and is very vocal anytime there are issues with the team.

This however is quite different. The team lacks leadership and therefore has factions. Some players on the team will take exception to some of the points raised and this could further widen the divide.

It's just sad.

JohnBullMySon:
Randy knows many of the big coaches in US Women's Soccer. Including their National team coach.

He is the one who asks for all those friendlies. Houston dash coach, Clarkson, was the one who called him about Alozie. He has contacts within the football ecosystem in North America. Those friendlies are mostly invitations and not organised by NFF. Currently, our men's team are going to play Portugal? Who do you think organised that?

I no longer want to comment on these issues but most of these complaints here are unwarranted. We all saw how the AWCON went, how many coaches including the ones y'all are mentioning would have pulled back the trophy after such setbacks.

Such set back will not happen, how can you be coaching a team for over 2 years going to the WAFCON you still don’t know your first 11 yet… Rubbish

lovewins:
The difference though is that she for the most part speaks for the team. She's more or less their mouthpiece and is very vocal anytime there are issues with the team.

This however is quite different. The team lacks leadership and therefore has factions. Some players on the team will take exception to some of the points raised and this could further widen the divide.

It's just sad.

Any of the Player that takes exception to whatever Okobi has said is an enemy of the team..

At this stage Okobi na senior player, she as seen it all, so there is nothing to be scared off. Worst case scenario is that, Waldrum not sacked and he does not invite her, however, she will know peace within that she spoke her mind, that she called him out... The man is a big fraud..

Deltamani:
Any of the Player that takes exception to whatever Okobi has said is an enemy of the team..

No na

Okobi basically shared her own experience with Randy and her general view on Randy's impact on the team. It necessarily doesn't have the be the experience of every other player on the team.

There are issues where I personally believe every player on the team should have one voice on, but this isn't one of them.

I'm just holding my peace, one of the reasons I no longer talk much here...


But I will definitely spill with receipts one day if need be... Peace out