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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Eriokanmi: 9:13am On Aug 29, 2022
Highvotage:


So, are you saying Sokoto too is under the grip of BAT?
I never said so. If you read my pose well, you'd have a better understanding of it. What alphabeta charges in Tinubu's strongholds is higher. Governor makinde said this, not me. Obaseki too, duribg campaign. Remember there are other service providers too? It's not a monopolistic market. If remita is cheaper for me, I go for them. No state would play politics with such, cos they want to save cost too. The resources are so limited. If alphabeta was cheaper, seyi makinde and Obaseki would have retained them. This isn't about politics but the reality. Remita and others are functioning in over 26 states. In those states mentioned, alphabeta could be charging lower than remita and co. Every state wants to save cost.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Thedon22: 9:14am On Aug 29, 2022
TINUBU LEADS AND OTHERS FOLLOW. Nigeria needs a visionary and risk taker, not a conservative and cowardly !

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by CheapHomes1: 9:17am On Aug 29, 2022
Owopariola001:


If Nigeria doesn't have a revenue problem, why does the government always complain about being broke?

Why are our expenditures now growing over our revenue?

Drawing private investors to the country is one of the financial successes. There is a reason nobody will want to invest his money where it is not economically viable to recoup their investments.
For example, nobody will want to invest his money in a place where they don't go to work on Mondays, nor in a place where there is poor spending power.

People have seen the success of Alpha Beta Consulting in generating more revenue for Lagos state, and now they want to replicate it in their state.
The success story of Alpha Beta consulting started with the Tinubu administration.

does government complaining that it is broke actually mean that it is broke?

you are the one that says nigeria has a revenue problem and that it is broke. so tell us expenditure is exceeding revenue.

Why are our expenditures now growing over our revenue?

you havent answered these questions. you are just going round in circles.

what is the business relationship you say people that know about alpha beta have with lagos state under tinubu?

how does financial success mean "drawing" private investors to the country?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Morphinne: 9:18am On Aug 29, 2022
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Who is this akuke now? grin
I would have asked you to engage me in an intelligent conversation but you can’t give what you don’t have yunno? wink
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Nobody: 9:19am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:
You dey mind Nigerians.


It is not Nigerians, it is mainly people from a particular tribe. Several years ago as a student in the University in South East, one thing we (Yorubas & very few North central students) have come to realise is that bitterness & hatred don't allow them to accept any objective reasoning, deep thinking and analysis. We have come to accept it and live with it all the six years of studentship. Our seniors gave us some orientations about the environment and the socio - cultural inclination of the environment.

Unfortunately, about 95% of students from core north withdrew before year three leaving mainly students from Kwarra (now kwara & Kogi) and middle belt as the 5%.

Coming back to State Government using Tax Consultants for IGR collection, it started during the Military. I did one of my Industrial Training as a University Student with a Tax Consultant to Lagos State. Later, we were given Kano State and I think Rivers State later. Many Accounting firms know the company I am talking about. Though later, there was protest within the big Accounting firms to the Military government (ABACHA) to stop State government from using consultants to collect IGR. We know it was out of envy because they felt the company with many States as clients is becoming very rich. I would not know if the Military (Abacha) later stopped it.

Some countries in Africa have come to Lagos State on visit to study the model of government in use and Tax system is inclusive. It is not a surprise if Alpha Beta Consultant is found operating outside Nigeria using another name.

I stopped worrying myself over IBO comments on Tinubu since 2015.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Demolakay: 9:20am On Aug 29, 2022
Omonieme:
I like the fact that you said let's verify. Maybe you should check out Anambra's IGR between 2003 and 2006 and compare the increase with Obi's time of 2006 to 14 and also the growth between 14 and 21


Of course! u wrote i ur statement dat he didn't increase d IGR, which is false!

His IGR performance wen compared wit his predecessor nd successor was lower,bt he increased d IGR, isn't it?

And besides, all of d information av come across, concerning IGR of Anambra state, among d 3 governors has bn confusing nd full of discrepancies.

Go check it out urself.... one said Ngige met Igr at 400million nd took it to 3.6, Obi took it to 4.7-10billion, one said Obiano met d igr at 1.9 billion ND took it to 28 billion. Anoda said he met it at 400 million. Anoda said obi reduces d IGR from 4billion Ngige left to 3.2, Anoda said Obi did nt increase d state IGR for 8 years. Anoda said as at d tym he left,Anambra igr was 10billion.

Abeg Wich one we go take?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Thedon22: 9:21am On Aug 29, 2022
bestman09:
The question Nigerians are asking is, WHO OWNS ALPHABETA? Who are the shareholders, and how much are they collecting from Lagos state monthly as commission?


And should the bat becomes president of Nigeria (God forbid bat-ting) ALPHABETA will now monopolize and squeeze the nation's economy for the interest of one man

That's a mumuric question. Those states that are collecting themselves, how much have they made ? I don't care who owns Alpha Beta so long it is creating prosperity for Lagos which figures have shown. I believe in performance. Stop asking mumuric questions !

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by anonymous1759(m): 9:22am On Aug 29, 2022
amaridigital:


Lekki deep seaport and Eko Atlantic alone surpasses all the combined investments made by all SE Governors since 1999 in dollar terms. Go and VELIFY!

Tell them o .

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Omonieme: 9:24am On Aug 29, 2022
Demolakay:



Of course! u wrote i ur statement dat he didn't increase d IGR, which is false!

His IGR performance wen compared wit his predecessor nd successor was lower,bt he increased d IGR, isn't it?

And besides, all of d information av come across, concerning IGR of Anambra state, among d 3 governors has bn confusing nd full of discrepancies.

Go check it out urself.... one said Ngige met Igr at 400million nd took it to 3.6, Obi took it to 4.7-10billion, one said Obiano met d igr at 1.9 billion ND took it to 28 billion. Anoda said he met it at 400 million. Anoda said obi reduces d IGR from 4billion Ngige left to 3.2, Anoda said Obi did nt increase d state IGR for 8 years. Anoda said as at d tym he left,Anambra igr was 10billion.

Abeg Wich one we go take?
That's where the data from the state's accountant general's office comes in. He did poorly compared to his predecessor and successor. He performed just above average as governor
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by CheapHomes1: 9:24am On Aug 29, 2022
babaolofin:


It is not Nigerians, it is mainly people from a particular tribe. Several years ago as a student in the University in South East, one thing we (Yorubas & very few North central students) have come to realise is that bitterness & hatred don't allow them to accept any objective reasoning, deep thinking and analysis. We have come to accept it and live with it all the six years of studentship. Our seniors gave us some orientations about the environment and the socio - cultural inclination of the environment.

Unfortunately, about 95% of students from core north withdrew before year three leaving mainly students from Kwarra (now kwara & Kogi) and middle belt as the 5%.

Coming back to State Government using Tax Consultants for IGR collection, it started during the Military. I did one of my Industrial Training as a University Student with a Tax Consultant to Lagos State. Later, we were given Kano State and I think Rivers State later. Many Accounting firms know the company I am talking about. Though later, there was protest within the big Accounting firms to the Military government (ABACHA) to stop State government from using consultants to collect IGR. We know it was out of envy because they felt the company with many States as clients is becoming very rich. I would not know if the Military (Abacha) later stopped it.

Some countries in Africa have come to Lagos State on visit to study the model of government in use and Tax system is inclusive. It is not a surprise if Alpha Beta Consultant is found operating outside Nigeria using another name.

I stopped worrying myself over IBO comments on Tinubu since 2015.


are you saying that tinubu owns alpha beta? when did this alpha beta commence operation as a tax consultant for lagos state?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Proudlyngwa(m): 9:25am On Aug 29, 2022
shortgun:

So govt that is spending trillions on fuel subsidy that they claim doesn't exist can not leave poor POS operators alone or give them waivers
Should business be taxed or not.

Govt is not run by emotion.
Two wrongs does not make it right, talking of subsidy

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Basher8583: 9:25am On Aug 29, 2022
Podimada:
Why is it that when you say you want a better Nigeria without mentioning the name of any candidate, everybody will think you are talking about Peter Obi?

Hahaha. Too much mkpurumiri in your blood stream. Have you seen better Anambra or better SE? These are the pointers indicating you are under the influence of xxxxx

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by 989900: 9:32am On Aug 29, 2022
AlphaBeta's shenanigans can always be researched online . . . according to Apara AlphaBeta's former MD, any willing private or public institution/organization interested in money laundering and corporate malfeasance would sure employ their services.

BTW, the screenshot of its clients on page 1 is not from their present website . . . on their present website, it's all Lagos affiliated, of course, that's just BTW.

Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by bewla(m): 9:34am On Aug 29, 2022
yomi961:
That doesn't change anything.
It is still a condit pipe to steal our common wealth.
Tinubu is a diaster waiting to happen.
No yoruba Christian will vote APC come 2023, they decieved us and made us to believe that GEJ was the problem, now our eyes have opened to there game plan.
We all heard what happened in owo and what is happening in kaduna a Muslim Muslim state.
We yoruba Christian reject APC and there Muslim Muslim tticket
was the governor of Ondo state Muslim or christen


Mind you the government house is not a praying ground

It's where disition are taking with out any personal favor

Bomb does not no Muslim or bullet when fire no Muslim from christen



Wake up
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Owopariola001: 9:36am On Aug 29, 2022
CheapHomes1:


does government complaining that it is broke actually mean that it is broke?

If you know that the government is not broke, the onus is on you to prove otherwise. The government has said it's broke."


you are the one that says nigeria has a revenue problem and that it is broke. so tell us expenditure is exceeding revenue.

Government itself says it's broke, not me.


Why are our expenditures now growing over our revenue?

you havent answered these questions. you are just going round in circles.

Because we are spending more than what we earn. Or we earning lesser than what we spend.


what is the business relationship you say people that know about alpha beta have with lagos state under tinubu?

They employ Alpha Beta consulting as outsourced business partners to help them generate more revenue like that of Lagos State.


how does financial success mean "drawing" private investors to the country?

By drawing private investors to the country, there is an increase in upfront financing that the government or other funder only repays plus profits through social service programs, start-ups, seed financing, etc, into public service financing.

If you still don't understand this, it is either this discourse is above your knowledge or you're only trying to prove too smart by half. cheesy cheesy

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Proudlyomonna: 9:39am On Aug 29, 2022
fasho01:
Jagaban is the man with the knowhow to transform Nigeria.. Tested and trusted nationwide

Shishi him no go see grin
Up North the majority have decided to atikulate bcus they do not like the old sick shaky emilokan crooner.
The MB we join hands to resist Apc bcus they have been greatly affected by this Apc National Disaster.
Down SE and SE Apc has already become an abomination.
Can SW alone make him President?
It is the end of the road for Apc.
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:40am On Aug 29, 2022
989900:
AlphaBeta's shenanigans can always be researched online . . . according to Apara AlphaBeta's former MD, any willing private or public institution/organization interested in money laundering and corporate malfeasance would sure employ their services.

BTW, the screenshot of its clients on page 1 is not from their present website . . . on their present website, it's all Lagos affiliated, of course, that's just BTW.

So, what was the court's verdict?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by peyemicoded: 9:41am On Aug 29, 2022
yomi961:
That doesn't change anything.
It is still a condit pipe to steal our common wealth.
Tinubu is a diaster waiting to happen.
No yoruba Christian will vote APC come 2023, they decieved us and made us to believe that GEJ was the problem, now our eyes have opened to there game plan.
We all heard what happened in owo and what is happening in kaduna a Muslim Muslim state.
We yoruba Christian reject APC and there Muslim Muslim tticket
alaye speak for your self

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:42am On Aug 29, 2022
Owopariola001:


If you know that the government is not broke, the onus is on you to prove otherwise. The government has said it's broke."



Government itself says it's broke, not me.



Because we are spending more than what we earn. Or we earning lesser than what we spend.



They employ Alpha Beta consulting as outsourced business partners to help them generate more revenue like that of Lagos State.



By drawing private investors to the country, there is an increase in upfront financing that the government or other funder only repays plus profits through social service programs, start-ups, seed financing, etc, into public service financing.

If you still don't understand this, it is either this discourse is above your knowledge or you're only trying to prove too smart by half. cheesy cheesy

He'll come back to you with another set of roundabout questions.

I've forgotten his other moniker on Nairaland but that's his modus operandi.

The idea is to get you to tire responding.

He'll always win because he'll continue asking stupid questions you won't have time for.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Nobody: 9:43am On Aug 29, 2022
bestman09:
The question Nigerians are asking is, WHO OWNS ALPHABETA? Who are the shareholders, and how much are they collecting from Lagos state monthly as commission?


And should the bat becomes president of Nigeria (God forbid bat-ting) ALPHABETA will now monopolize and squeeze the nation's economy for the interest of one man

That question is very uncivilized (pardon me for using Abiola's response during NTA Presidential debate of 1993).

The question you should have asked is what are the Terms of Reference.

Go and study Jacob's Theorem in the Bible. Jacob and Laban have Terms of Reference. When Jacob met the terms by Divine Providence, Laban have no choice other than to release those sheep as agreed. This is the Foundation of all Business Terms.

You don't need to ask the owner of Dell or HP or Microsoft or Cisco or their shareholders because countries and fortune 500 companies are using their products and are making fortunes from Licenses and SLAs. The question should be; Are they delivering what they promised?

Nna, this is not Onitsha main market, or Ariara or Alaba or Ladipo where you coerced buyers to buy imitations or inferior and later tell him 'goods bought in good conditions are not returnable.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by HRMK: 9:44am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:


You didn't know this?
even in states controlled by oppositions?dont you then blv its not just abt tinubu or lagos?if the arrangement didnt pay these other states,they wont engage the company!it is as simple as that!!

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Aristobrat: 9:45am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:
You dey mind Nigerians.

The state re mostly western state. Tinubu and his boys have contact there opposition state ke delta rivers re they there?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Owopariola001: 9:47am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:


He'll come back to you with another set of roundabout questions.

I've forgotten his other moniker on Nairaland but that's his modus operandi.

The idea is to get you to tire responding.

He'll always win because he'll continue asking stupid questions you won't have time for.

Ooh?! It's a trick employed by "Newspapers-stand analysts".

But I have his antidotes. I will cure his ignorance today.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:47am On Aug 29, 2022
Aristobrat:
The state re mostly western state. Tinubu and his boys have contact there opposition state ke delta rivers re they there?

Imo, Abia, Akwa Ibom are clients.

Hope it's not dyslexia?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:48am On Aug 29, 2022
HRMK:
even in states controlled by oppositions?dont you then blv its not just abt tinubu or lagos?if the arrangement didnt pay these other states,they wont engage the company!it is as simple as that!!

I have absolutely no problem with a private establishment helping government improve its revenue intake.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by IfnobeGod20: 9:50am On Aug 29, 2022
wolebest:


You don't need to be spoon fed.

You can research that on your own.

The information you require is online just as that of other Lagos Governors.
You don't need all this. Post his personal achievements. You can't continue defending someone, you're ashame to post his achievements.
For your information, Tinubu achievements not online, all what you guys have been brandishing are his successors achievements. At least he should have his own. Brandishing 51B IGR but never told us his own IGR as at when he left in 2007.

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Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by 989900: 9:53am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:


So, what was the court's verdict?

See the attached picture in my initial post.

Google:
Alphabets & Apara
Alpha-Beta court papers Igbosere
Alpha-Beta & Tinubu

Make of the information whatever you wish.
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by hush15: 9:54am On Aug 29, 2022
rusher14:


Why shouldn't private companies be revenue collectors for states ?

If for 20 years your state collects only 4 million Naira monthly as revenue such that they can't even pay teacher salaries, why do you hate a private enterprise that helps government recoup 2 billion Naira monthly?

Because it is Tinubu or because it is a wrong system?

Like saying MTN should not be running communication in Nigeria.

NITEL should be running it.

That's a lie. States can generate its revenue thru its inter al revenue agencies if well structured out and payments are made directly to government coffers. What's the function of LIRS if not revenue generation?

Consultations maybe but generation is a wrong. In Lagos State, the reverse is the case. LIRS is doing consultation while the company is doing generation and when the founders and owners of the organization are those in the ruling party and former political holders of public trust. Extorting people wrongly and still using people hard earned money for their own personal aggrandizement and still be lying to me that they did this and that when it's tax payers monies that does all they are claiming accolades for. Not their personal monies.

Tinubu and his forty thieves should swear its all their personal monies they spending and used in acquiring all that he is claiming today, I made men, I built this, I did that, I donated this.... nonsense

Like what Obi has been saying, " when you have a leader whose families and cronies are not benefitting from government, you have reduced corruption by more than 50%". LASG is full of families and cronies and such, Lagos cannot fully realize it's true potentials.
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:55am On Aug 29, 2022
hush15:


That's a lie. States can generate its revenue thru its inter al revenue agencies if well structured out and payments are made directly to government coffers. What's the function of LIRS if not revenue generation?

Consultations maybe but generation is a wrong. In Lagos State, the reverse is the case. LIRS is doing consultation while the company is doing generation and when the founders and owners of the organization are those in the ruling party and former political holders of public trust. Extorting people wrongly and still using people hard earned money for their own personal aggrandizement and still be lying to me that they did this and that when it's tax payers monies that does all they are claiming accolades for. Not their personal monies.

Tinubu and his forty thieves should swear its all their personal monies they spending and used in acquiring all that he is claiming today, I made men, I built this, I did that, I donated this.... nonsense

Like what Obi has been saying, " when you have a leader whose families and cronies are not benefitting from government, you have reduced corruption by more than 50%". LASG is full of families and cronies and such, Lagos cannot fully realize it's true potentials.


NITEL can also provide telecoms.

Question is do they really?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by rusher14: 9:56am On Aug 29, 2022
989900:


See the attached picture in my initial post.

Google:
Alphabets & Apara
Alpha-Beta court papers Igbosere
Alpha-Beta & Tinubu

Make of the information whatever you wish.

What was the court's verdict?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by IgweBUIKE1(m): 9:56am On Aug 29, 2022
Omonieme:
As I've always said, if not for concerns about Tinubu's ability to withstand the rigorous demands of the office of the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, none of the other candidates come close to him in both management of human and material resources. Is it Obi that couldn't raise the IGR of Anambra state in 8 years? Or Atiku that bungled the privatization process he was given responsibility for? Before you talk about Lagos being a former capital and Tinubu having it easy, let's not forget that prior to his emergence as governor, IGR was at 600 million. He brought many structural and institutional reforms that laid a blueprint for his successors. But haba! Tinubu is old and should just have taken a position as a party leader and statesman. Present either Fashola or Osinbajo not be jostling for the presidency as if without it, his life isn't complete.
If I were to vote tho, I wont vote for Tinubu cause I'm not entirely convinced he still has the mental and physical energy for Nigeria's myraid of problems and that's where Obi comes in. I'm not convinced he's the messiah as he's being painted but at least he's younger and would most definitely do better than Atiku. Anyhow Sha, I won't vote cause Las Las, they are all the same.
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I liked your post... But pls talking about igr... Compare the number of industries and population of both Anambra and Lagos State...?
Re: Dele Alake: The Same Alphabeta People Complain Of Is Used By Opposition States by Nobody: 9:57am On Aug 29, 2022
CheapHomes1:


are you saying that tinubu owns alpha beta? when did this alpha beta commence operation as a tax consultant for lagos state?

I don't know the owner of Alpha Beta Consultant. Business ownership takes different form and representation. Alpha Beta to the best of my knowledge started during Tinubu government. During the military era, most prominent accounting firms in Nigeria know those companies involved. The company where I did my IT was very prominent among those consultants during the military era.

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