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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by owoshuyi(m): 10:29am On Aug 29, 2022
Keyword: BELIEVING
You never see tomorrow, and you no know tomorrow, but you BELIEVE say you go see tomorrow to make your life better than today .

Apply that to the heaven topic.

Man is born to believe or not believe in anything or in people.

Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Uptownerd: 10:30am On Aug 29, 2022
Alubarika1234:



And he received a Good answer

I thought he was a pastor? Isn't his role to educate/teach?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Ay04z(m): 10:30am On Aug 29, 2022
Is better to believe there is hell and heaven.. Than not... Jesus is the only way believe in him and be free. Life is a trap death is her son... Do good and follow christ. We have limited time here. Cheers.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by tonididdy(m): 10:30am On Aug 29, 2022
To believe or not to believe is a personal decision and should be highly respected.

Calling believers mumu and promising unbelievers hell, is a stupid act.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by alterego17: 10:32am On Aug 29, 2022
gabrieltemmy:
angry

Lol…make i no just talk wetin come my mind before the smoke me alive. Anyway…check the image down here if you need it

Hi where is ur office location?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by tonididdy(m): 10:32am On Aug 29, 2022
Alubarika1234:



Bring out your evidence to proof him wrong
Indeed the reason why we must be neutral and sensitive about these topics because neither of us knows what's true or not.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Slimwhyt(m): 10:33am On Aug 29, 2022
cheesy
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by KushLyon(m): 10:34am On Aug 29, 2022
MrDebonair:

Reason I said don't be myopic. If God can separate waters with firmament to create heaven and earth. Definitely he must have created the waters, just as he created the firmament to divide the waters and went further to gather the waters into one place and called it sea and the other part land.

@the bolded, so you're just assuming he did?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Buliwyf: 10:34am On Aug 29, 2022
damosky12:


You probably didn't do well in logic.

The fact that you can't prove that you cannot concretely prove to me now that sun rays exist means that they don't.

In knowledge acquisition, you don't conclude until you've ascertained it is (not). That's what's smart!

What sort of dumb foolishness is this? LMAO
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Pandev(m): 10:34am On Aug 29, 2022
AbuAeesha:


then you should know that "soul" is the essence of anything,this is not a scriptural definition.
but since u don't believe in anything or whether u have a soul,no point debating with you then.
i hope you do find your way back bfr its late.
have a nice day.

shocked how is soul your evidence exactly? I claimed you don't have evidence that you just believe and you have not been able to prove that wrong.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Pandev(m): 10:35am On Aug 29, 2022
muykem:
That's why I accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour because he's the only one that was convinced of where he is coming from and where he is going.
ok, goodluck
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MT: 10:40am On Aug 29, 2022
I am a Christian and I know that heaven is described so beautifully in the book of Revelation. The roads are lined with all precious metals. And the bible even says that "Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard" what God prepares for his own people.

However, I have a reservation. Most of these pastors preach this to us from the altar but they behave like this earth is where it starts and ends. They do not even wish to experience this heaven. One would expect them to be convinced to the point that their hearts will be fixed towards heaven at all the times but no, that is not the case. If by the behaviour, it shows they are nit convinced of what they are preaching, I feel something is obviously wrong somewhere.

I must tell you, it makes me doubt the existence of heaven a little bit.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by kendological(m): 10:41am On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


Sir,You Believe or you don't believe is not relevant. The day you close your eyes in Death you must believe.

You Believe In JESUS Christ or you refuse to believe, continue! But the day you Depart, you Must Believe in JESUS but it will be Late.
There is no Repentance in the Grave.
Mercy Expires at death.
Story.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MrDebonair: 10:42am On Aug 29, 2022
KushLyon:


@the bolded, so you're just assuming he did?

In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth. Anything heaven and earth God created. And he chose to design it the way it pleased him. No assumptions.

You are on earth. You can see land and waters. You can see the moon, sun and stars. You don't know the extent of the earth. You don't know where the seas start or where they end. Up until now, discoveries are still being made.

You can see the heavens (firmament) above the earth, but you don't know the extent. Just because you can't see don't mean it don't exist. Just because you don't believe me doesn't imply that I'm wrong.

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by etrouble: 10:44am On Aug 29, 2022
MrDebonair:


In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth. Anything heaven and earth God created. And he chose to design it the way it pleased him. No assumptions.

You are on earth. You can see land and waters. You can see the moon, sun and stars. You don't know the extent of the earth. You don't know where the seas start or where they end. Up until now, discoveries are still being made.

You can see the heavens (firmament) above the earth, but you don't know the extent. Just because you can't see don't mean it don't exist.

Where was God before he created Heaven and Earth?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by LawFight(m): 10:45am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.


The answer is still are you going there , We aren't arguing that there is heaven or not,It's our reality. Is question is directed to those people in that reality. Chikenah
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Elock1: 10:46am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.
no mind dem baba.. Na so their own be... They just want everyone to believe in something they have no prove about, next you go dey hear "you will believe on the last Day"

If you can't convince us the "unbelievers".. How then do you intend winning soul for christ.. Just dodging whenever the think Don hook dem, even the oyibo way bring religion no do reach us.

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by shinealight(m): 10:48am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
calm down olodo. I said your leader dodge a question. I never told you I saw air. We all feel air and have different names for it according to each language. You that have seen/felt the heaven and hell should tell us what they look like. You can answer the question your leader dodged for him.

Yours is a lost cause. As they say, “Experience is the best teacher for a fool”.
When you get to your destined destination you will be able to experience it for yourself and no one needs to bother to convince you whether the place exists or not. What a waste of life!! undecided undecided
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MrDebonair: 10:49am On Aug 29, 2022
MT:
I am a Christian and I know that heaven is described so beautifully in the book of Revelation. The roads are lined with all precious metals. And the bible even says that "Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard" what God prepares for his own people.

However, I have a reservation. Most of these pastors preach this to us from the altar but they behave like this earth is where it starts and ends. They do not even wish to experience this heaven. One would expect them to be convinced to the point that their hearts will be fixed towards heaven at all the times but no, that is not the case. If by the behaviour, it shows they are nit convinced of what they are preaching, I feel something is obviously wrong somewhere.

I must tell you, it makes me doubt the existence of heaven a little bit.

The Bible should be your guide as a Christian and not what your pastor says or does. The word of God is the focus and not any human being.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by kingPhidel(m): 10:55am On Aug 29, 2022
This Bishop is a comrade. Peace is not an option even in church. grin
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MrDebonair: 10:55am On Aug 29, 2022
etrouble:


Where was God before he created Heaven and Earth?

I have answered that in my previous post.

God was everywhere. He decided to create a place for himself (heaven) and man (earth). by diving waters with the firmament.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by IMASTEX: 10:57am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.
grin grin grin What do you expect from religionists. Like I always say, Nigerians risk their lives across the Mediterranean sea because of the strong believe of a better life in Europe. They don't mind dying in the cause at least there is an assurance that where they are going is far better. But in religion, they do everything to refuse going to a better place. I reserve my comment. grin grin grin

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by effort1: 10:59am On Aug 29, 2022
Offpoint1:

God said what? grin grin did God personally said that to you or did he even personally write that or you were TOLD he "inspired" those who said that? grin

The Bible is the Word of God and I believe it.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by CALCULUS16: 11:02am On Aug 29, 2022
It's good to believe the imaginary if it will really help the person to be better morally. Just like the placebo effect of empty capsule.
We are all under programs of one thing or the other. A matrix that's difficult to escape from
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Ijoni: 11:03am On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


Sir,You Believe or you don't believe is not relevant. The day you close your eyes in Death you must believe.

You Believe In JESUS Christ or you refuse to believe, continue! But the day you Depart, you Must Believe in JESUS but it will be Late.
There is no Repentance in the Grave.
Mercy Expires at death.
True word my brother. To the question of how The man of God Mike Bamiloye know about heaven, the scripture explain all we need to know about heaven and how to get there; and it is only those who have come to God by faith that can start the journey to get there. However anybody is free to believe or doubt the scripture and the existence of heaven and hell. But like said above, the day you die, the reality of the existence of heaven for the righteous born again Christians and hell for the recalcitrant, unbelieving and rebellious souls will dawn on you but it will be too late.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Major7: 11:05am On Aug 29, 2022
superCleanworks:










Yes! Mercy endures forever for as long as you live, it's expire at the moment of your death. What part don't you get there oga?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by cowmanager2000: 11:06am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.

‘a bungalow and a mansion’ once had a conversation
One said to the other ..’ there is no architect.. the other said ‘there is no builder.. ‘
other replied” .. show me evidence ‘

An old man passing bye told .. both of them
“You both are the evidence of the existence of the architect and the builder’

You are a proof of heaven! Bro

Look no further elsewhere!

And if u cares to know where heaven is .. it’s in you!
Take off religion .. I hate religion with passion as well.

But the truth is .. a ‘seed once said there is no tree’
How would u react to such ?

‘ a tree is in a seed and a fruit is the tree’ and Vice-versa’

Until u are able to decode the mystery of ‘seed, fruit and tree’

Then u will come to term with the mystery of heaven.

Soo sorry to intrude’
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by SaLongs1(m): 11:07am On Aug 29, 2022
slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Bunch of confused people

God created heaven and earth

So where God dey when he dey create am

The most annoying thing is that humans think they are smart but how they allowed this spirituality and imaginary heaven to deceive them is what I don't understand
Very confused bunch of people

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Major7: 11:07am On Aug 29, 2022
Olachase:
There's one thing I'm sure of someone created this wonder world and everything in it....... Some times I compare human with animals apart from knowledge and understanding we humans have, no different in the image. Animals die without going to heaven or hell so are we humans.




May God open the eyes of your understanding before its too late.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by harju007: 11:09am On Aug 29, 2022
Olachase:
There's one thing I'm sure of someone created this wonder world and everything in it....... Some times I compare human with animals apart from knowledge and understanding we humans have, no different in the image. Animals die without going to heaven or hell so are we humans.

Oil dey ur head.

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