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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by paradigmshift(m): 11:11am On Aug 29, 2022
MT:
I am a Christian and I know that heaven is described so beautifully in the book of Revelation. The roads are lined with all precious metals. And the bible even says that "Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard" what God prepares for his own people.

However, I have a reservation. Most of these pastors preach this to us from the altar but they behave like this earth is where it starts and ends. They do not even wish to experience this heaven. One would expect them to be convinced to the point that their hearts will be fixed towards heaven at all the times but no, that is not the case. If by the behaviour, it shows they are nit convinced of what they are preaching, I feel something is obviously wrong somewhere.

I must tell you, it makes me doubt the existence of heaven a little bit.
know God for yourself and leave pastors alone o
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by sircatherine45(m): 11:12am On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


Sir,You Believe or you don't believe is not relevant. The day you close your eyes in Death you must believe.

You Believe In JESUS Christ or you refuse to believe, continue! But the day you Depart, you Must Believe in JESUS but it will be Late.
There is no Repentance in the Grave.
Mercy Expires at death.

Is that a threat? grin grin grin
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Major7: 11:13am On Aug 29, 2022
GodPrince:
very stupid response as usual from dumb Christians. The idiot still didn't answer the question. Has anyone been there yes or no?



Your comments portray your true character, you weren't properly raised cos your comment left me with this question, where is your manner
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by phemmyfour: 11:16am On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.
It was a sarcasm not a question. You should be able to identify a sincere question when you see one
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Arkmanbuddy(m): 11:18am On Aug 29, 2022
slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Bunch of confused people

God created heaven and earth

So where God dey when he dey create am


The most annoying thing is that humans think they are smart but how they allowed this spirituality and imaginary heaven to deceive them is what I don't understand


Mark Zuckerberg created Facebook. Does Mark live in Facebook system changing stuff? Why do you expect God to live in his creation?

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by CALCULUS16: 11:20am On Aug 29, 2022
Ay04z:
Is better to believe there is hell and heaven.. Than not... Jesus is the only way believe in him and be free. Life is a trap death is her son... Do good and follow christ. We have limited time here. Cheers.
Actually the truth is Christ. If you want to know the way to God, it's through Christ.
Doing good alone will not place anyone in heaven if it exists, he who follows God not for the sake of heaven or for the fear of hell shall be placed there. Hypocrites (which constitute more than 90percent of worshippers) won't be there (if it exist). It's better one become a devil on earth and end up been with him than putting one leg in Gods house and the other leg in the world (devils temple)
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Arkmanbuddy(m): 11:20am On Aug 29, 2022
Uptownerd:
The Pastor has proven that he doesn't know what he is talking about. He was asked a very simple question, "Where is Heaven?" but he wanted to be smart and so avoided it by talking to an imaginary crowd of fellow delusional fantasists going to same wonderland like him.

This is the problem with religion. It portrays what it does not know but can never answer . Before one can go to heaven, the person has to know where it is. You can't go to a nonexistent place. Nobody knows what happens after death. Anybody that tells you otherwise is propagating an agenda.

When you visit https://uptownerd.com/category/consciousness-2/ you will see how all the lies of religion are being exposed for what they're. As a seeker of truth, you don't want to miss this fundamental knowledge about the world and the self.


And you have all the answers?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by harju007: 11:21am On Aug 29, 2022
Christianity is a white man religion and they forced it on African continent during colonial era.
Some white man do pray without mentioning " in the name of Jesus" they way African do.

God is Supreme!!
" God created Adam and Eve. They both give birth to Cane abd Abel, and Cane and Abel got married.
My qst is:
Which planet did Cane and Abel wife came from?
Since Adam and Eve was the first Man and Women on earth.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by sircatherine45(m): 11:21am On Aug 29, 2022
Solofresh2:
Your heaven and hell are here on Earth.When you are living a fulfilled life you are at your heaven stage and when you are suffering, you are in hell.No one will be in heaven or hell forever
The way you live your life now will determine how your next life will be
You don't live once, you live forever
Know this and know peace.

I wish I could like this your comment a million times

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by EmyGod(m): 11:23am On Aug 29, 2022
If you are a sinner and you have not experienced burning in hell before my brother pray to God whether you are his people or not because the Lord will always prove to us the existence of everything he has created. When I was living in sin, making boy and girl friend, fornication was my vision to every girl I view on the street until I was arrested by the Lord today I believe in Christ not as a Church goer but as a born again Christian.

Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Opintiwa: 11:26am On Aug 29, 2022
GodPrince:
how is he a coward? You Christians are just simply mad people. Last time I checked there's no mad person that knows he or she is actually mad they think they are normal. That's the exact case with Christians

Is that why you are shouting?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Maliqcious: 11:31am On Aug 29, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Heaven is real! Hell is real.

No amount of denial would never be able to change that fact!
where is devil?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MT: 11:33am On Aug 29, 2022
paradigmshift:
know God for yourself and leave pastors alone o

Thanks and I appreciate you.

Still, I can say I am 100% convinced. Situations at times make me doubt things. I really wish and pray to God to wholly reveal himself to him. Why will pandemic destroy the whole land and no one can uccessfully intervene? Why would people die right in church due to the pandemics? I dont get it.

Sometimes, I feel religion is used to control people from committing crimes by instilling the fears of God in them and by telling them hell and heaven exist. My feeling, I am not saying it is correct.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by themanderon: 11:33am On Aug 29, 2022
For those shallow people doubting the existence of God have you ever thought about the meaning of life? Do you think you were just born for the fun of it? There has to be a greater meaning which the enemy of your soul has succeeded in hiding from you. Find that purpose and you will see everything clearly. Heaven is real and only those that are ready will be there.
Throughout history, there have always been mockers and scoffers of the word of the highest God but some find out albeit too late that they have been fooled into thinking there is no God.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Pandev(m): 11:37am On Aug 29, 2022
cowmanager2000:


‘a bungalow and a mansion’ once had a conversation
One said to the other ..’ there is no architect.. the other said ‘there is no builder.. ‘
other replied” .. show me evidence ‘

An old man passing bye told .. both of them
“You both are the evidence of the existence of the architect and the builder’

You are a proof of heaven! Bro

Look no further elsewhere!

And if u cares to know where heaven is .. it’s in you!
Take off religion .. I hate religion with passion as well.

But the truth is .. a ‘seed once said there is no tree’
How would u react to such ?

‘ a tree is in a seed and a fruit is the tree’ and Vice-versa’

Until u are able to decode the mystery of ‘seed, fruit and tree’

Then u will come to term with the mystery of heaven.

Soo sorry to intrude’
what is the evidence of existence of heaven and hell and you start beating about the bush. The bitter truth is that you just believe it, no evidence. It seems to hurt you somehow that you can't prove cheesy

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by membranus: 11:37am On Aug 29, 2022
slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Bunch of confused people

God created heaven and earth

So where God dey when he dey create am

The most annoying thing is that humans think they are smart but how they allowed this spirituality and imaginary heaven to deceive them is what I don't understand

You will not want heaven to exist, and God sitting there waiting to judge you.

No, not with your line of business and way of life. But it is better you stop scamming others while there is still breath in you.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Lazenby007(m): 11:40am On Aug 29, 2022
slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Bunch of confused people

God created heaven and earth

So where God dey when he dey create am

The most annoying thing is that humans think they are smart but how they allowed this spirituality and imaginary heaven to deceive them is what I don't understand
Genesis 1:2 tell you where go dey when he dey create am.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Theta1: 11:49am On Aug 29, 2022
Baba no be Shalaye FC fan, those that will perish will surely perish, no need for long explanation.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Pandev(m): 11:52am On Aug 29, 2022
IMASTEX:

grin grin grin What do you expect from religionists. Like I always say, Nigerians risk their lives across the Mediterranean sea because of the strong believe of a better life in Europe. They don't mind dying in the cause at least there is an assurance that where they are going is far better. But in religion, they do everything to refuse going to a better place. I reserve my comment. grin grin grin
you are very wicked grin
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by MT: 11:52am On Aug 29, 2022
Theta1:
Baba no be Shalaye FC fan, those that will perish will surely perish, no need for long explanation.

But God actually directed the believers to seek for the "lost sheep".
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by demystified01: 11:54am On Aug 29, 2022
1Cor. 1:18 "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God"

Jesus came to the world to die for man, He had ressurected and gone back to heaven to prepare a place for those who will believe in Him.

John 14:2&3 "In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

Heaven is real; Hell is real. Give your life to Jesus and be saved for eternal damnation. Shalom.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Geovanni412(m): 11:54am On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


Sir,You Believe or you don't believe is not relevant. The day you close your eyes in Death you must believe.

You Believe In JESUS Christ or you refuse to believe, continue! But the day you Depart, you Must Believe in JESUS but it will be Late.
There is no Repentance in the Grave.
Mercy Expires at death.

I have three questions:
1.)Will the Jews, Muslims and Buddhists all go to hell?
2.) Will a seven yr old buddhist monk who lived an upright life in India and died due to ill health go to hell even when he had no opportunity to hear about Jesus Christ?
3.) Are all our ancestors who practiced traditional religion before the British came to our shores burning in hell now?

It is only God who decides who goes to heaven and hell. It is not simple arithmetic like some Christians like to believe- God's ways are not our ways.

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by superCleanworks(m): 11:56am On Aug 29, 2022
malvisguy212:
so, where do you stand ?? I am a Christian and I have no answer for the question. but the same question can be extended to you. have you been dead before to come to the conclusion that heaven and hell do not exist ? if you still insist that heaven and hell don't exist. then we both come to this conclusion by FAITH. but to you. faith in what ??

Where do i stand? I stand as a learner. I was just asking an honest question so I could learn.
Did you see me mention anything concerning if heaven or hell exists? or perhaps you read in a rush and you applied the same rush to reply me because I wonder why you are asking me these questions when you should be teaching me.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by superCleanworks(m): 12:00pm On Aug 29, 2022
Major7:

Yes! Mercy endures forever for as long as you live, it's expire at the moment of your death. What part don't you get there oga?

read this thing you wrote, read it out loud to yourself and listen how idiotic you sound.
forever, with a clause?
how old are you? why are you so dafft?
you better go back and study properly before giving such answers that reveal your stupidity in public.

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Godseed: 12:04pm On Aug 29, 2022
Pandev:
baba dodged the question. Religious people only believe in heaven and hell, they actually don't have concrete evidence of the existence.


PS: Of all the mentions I've received, none ever talked about my observation about the pastor. Rather they're all attacking left right and center. The pastor dodged question, those in my mention also dodged it. If you can't give me evidence, then you don't have to quote.

Can you provide evidence that there is NO heaven?
What am I even saying?
Can you even provide evidence you have a heart or brain? I mean YOU. Don't tell me about x-rays or MRI. Have you ever made visual contact with your own brain or heart? Don't tell me about dissection of cadavers. YOU are not the cadaver. Can you give me irrefutable proof you have a brain? Can you hold your brain in your hands to silence me?
But, I believe that you being healthy and normal, have not only heart and brain but also every other organ found in humans.
I believe. And you know what, YOU can only believe the same. You can't do any more than just believe.You know without any doubts you have these organs because you believe no human can survive without them. The realest things you have is from belief.
If you know you have a brain because you believe you have one, why do you find it impossible that I know there is heaven because I believe it?
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by SEGLIZ: 12:04pm On Aug 29, 2022
KushLyon:


So are you saying God was living with his father or he was a tenant else where? Make una still dey reason some of these things wey una dey talk na grin

Y'all arguing should watch this video and don't blame me when you start thinking of a certain religion grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFZQBb2srM
this isn't logical God. KushLyon built a mansion and an estate don't mean simultaneously, KushLyon was already in his mansion before embarking on the estate project.

the concept of God isn't debatable it is either you believe or you don't. that I don't know there is a KushLyon on nairaland don't mean he doesn't exist.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Gospelpreacher1: 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2022
Geovanni412:


I have three questions:
1.)Will the Jews, Muslims and Buddhists all go to hell?
2.) Will a seven yr old buddhist monk who lived an upright life in India and died due to ill health go to hell even when he had no opportunity to hear about Jesus Christ?
3.) Are all our ancestors who practiced traditional religion before the British came to our shores burning in hell now?

It is only God who decides who goes to heaven and hell.

1. Whether Jews, gentile or whatever. Whoever does not BELIEVE and SURRENDER to The Lordship of JESUS Christ will go to Hell Fire!

2. Everyone who has come of age has the opportunity to hear about . Don't Deceive yourself. The Gospel of JESUS Christ is all over the world, villages, creeks, towns, etc.
Anyone who has come of age who refuses to accept JESUS will go to hell.

If your child is an expert in cartoons, technology and so on. And yet you refuse to teach your child on what will save his soul, then you are destroying that child.

3. JESUS Christ has paid the price long before your ancestors were born. If they didn't have a relationship with JESUS, they are in Hell now.

Don't Deceive yourself! Eternity is a Personal Race. You can't say you don't know about JESUS. Just as he has given u the opportunity to hear about him, that is how he gave your ancestors and everyone else the opportunity to hear about HIM.

There is no other way to Heaven.
No JESUS! Forget about Heaven.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Major7: 12:06pm On Aug 29, 2022
superCleanworks:


read this thing you wrote, read it out loud to yourself and listen how idiotic you sound.
forever, with a clause?
how old are you? why are you so dafft?
you better go back and study properly before giving such answers that reveal your stupidity in public.





Well, old enough to mentor you. I see that you have issues with manners and you probably grew up in a toxic environment with a dysfunctional family. I pray that God will create in you a new heart. Peace to your troubled soul grin
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Geovanni412(m): 12:08pm On Aug 29, 2022
Warmaterial:
those guys really need help... Although you can't blame them much because they found themselves inside the foolishness even before their mother gave birth to them. More so, their brain was turned by their parents since birth... For them to free themselves it will take years...

I am a Christian but even I, am tired of most Christians' lack of basic logic and rational thinking. I remember being in Christ embassy when the Pastor said that their healing stream service was streamed by over 6 billion people.- https://christembassy.org/over-6-billion-people-connect-to-healing-streams-service-with-pastor-chris/. I reason the matter say I be like ear dey pain me, d pastor come repeat the same thing two more times. Bro, I japa from there- that was the last time I ever went there. The members sef believe that such numbers are achievable - that Pastor Chris' healing stream is doing more numbers than the world cup and the SuperBowl.

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Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Pandev(m): 12:09pm On Aug 29, 2022
Godseed:


Can you provide evidence that there is NO heaven?
What am I even saying?
Can you even provide evidence you have a heart or brain? I mean YOU. Don't tell me about x-rays or MRI. Have you ever made visual contact with your own brain or heart? Don't tell me about dissection of cadavers. YOU are not the cadaver. Can you give me irrefutable proof you have a brain? Can you hold your brain in your hands to silence me?
But, I believe that you being healthy and normal, have not only heart and brain but also every other organ found in humans.
I believe. And you know what, YOU can only believe the same. You can't do any more than just believe.You know without any doubts you have these organs because you believe no human can survive without them. The realest things you have is from belief.
If you know you have a brain because you believe you have one, why do you find it impossible that I know there is heaven because I believe it?
the epistle is useless. Why? Because, it still didn't prove existence of heaven and hell.
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Explorerx(m): 12:15pm On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


Sir,You Believe or you don't believe is not relevant. The day you close your eyes in Death you must believe.

You Believe In JESUS Christ or you refuse to believe, continue! But the day you Depart, you Must Believe in JESUS but it will be Late.
There is no Repentance in the Grave.
Mercy Expires at death.
Fool
Later if one Muslim extremist kill your sister say she be unbeliever
You go Dey cry for justice
Re: Between Clergyman Mike Bamiloye And A Facebook User Asking About Heaven by Geovanni412(m): 12:23pm On Aug 29, 2022
Gospelpreacher1:


1. Whether Jews, gentile or whatever. Whoever does not BELIEVE and SURRENDER to The Lordship of JESUS Christ will go to Hell Fire!

2. Everyone who has come of age has the opportunity to hear about . Don't Deceive yourself. The Gospel of JESUS Christ is all over the world, villages, creeks, towns, etc.
Anyone who has come of age who refuses to accept JESUS will go to hell.

If your child is an expert in cartoons, technology and so on. And yet you refuse to teach your child on what will save his soul, then you are destroying that child.

3. JESUS Christ has paid the price long before your ancestors were born. If they didn't have a relationship with JESUS, they are in Hell now.

Don't Deceive yourself! Eternity is a Personal Race. You can't say you don't know about JESUS. Just as he has given u the opportunity to hear about him, that is how he gave your ancestors and everyone else the opportunity to hear about HIM.

There is no other way to Heaven.
No JESUS! Forget about Heaven.

Your 2nd answer. How possible do you think it will be for someone in North Korea who is a child to hear of the gospel, considering the fact that N. korea ranks as #1 for persecution of Christians? Read these articles and give a sincere answer : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_North_Korea
https://nypost.com/2009/07/24/north-korea-executes-woman-for-giving-out-bibles/
Also consider the fact that North Koreans don't have access to the internet - what they use is known as the intranet and is highly regulated. They are allowed to visit only about 30 websites -https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37426725

Your 1st answer. According to your logic, are you saying that a boy of 5 yrs old born to Muslim parents, who works on a farm in Java, Indonesia, which is 87 percent Muslim who dies due to sudden illness will automatically go to hell? Just like that - as he was born, he was already doomed to go to hellfire. smh.

Your 3rd answer. Not only are you saying that all the ancestors of Nigerians before the advent of Christianity are automatically in Hell but you are also suggesting that Terah, the father of Abraham is also in hell. This logic is weird - indirectly, are you also suggesting that a little child of 5 years old who is Muslim and is raped to death by a grown man also goes to hell?

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