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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SopaterOfBeroea(m): 10:37pm On Aug 31, 2022
Courz:
You are not alone. Those are words of a delusional idiot. grin What do you expect from an Intelligent officer of the DUM DUM?
Fake intelligence officer wey dey think upside down
He's no longer running after Rozz the scammer grin grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SopaterOfBeroea(m): 10:39pm On Aug 31, 2022
Obongowo Temple333 mme mmbukpo owo emi eswam thread mfo.
Edi mmong ifiak inye eneme mmi oyoho oyoho grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 10:41pm On Aug 31, 2022
Janosky:
Janosky NEVER said so.
I have to ask you some questions so you get the picture.

Is 1 Corinthians 7:39 in your Bible?
Was the mother of Timothy married to Jehovah's servant?

Is 1 Corinthians 7:10-13 evidence that there are Jehovah's servants married to unbelievers?

When a JW flouts 1 Corinthians 7:39 ,Gen 24:2-3, Deuteronomy 7:3-4 & 2 Corinthians 6:14 to yoke with unbelievers in marriage, (or was married before he became a JW),should he/she divorce the spouse?
I don't understand your point, you stated earlier that JW could marry non-JW that was what I said.
Also, check 1 corinthians 7.39 it has nothing to do with the mother of Timothy.
1 Corinthians 7:39

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SopaterOfBeroea(m): 10:42pm On Aug 31, 2022
Templee333:
ABOMINABLE WORDS
There are some words that JW consider as "sinful",these include:
praise the lord-halleluia; glory be to Jesus; happy christmas; happy new year;
if u say any of the words above in the gathering of JW,u'll definitely attract a scornful look even though a sane christian can't figure out what is wrong in saying them. But wait,why is it so easy for words like "you fool", "stupid", "mumu" & many other abusive words to flow frm the mouth of a JW even when their bible clearly condemns the use of such words? Do these people realy believe their bible? I had constant argument with them over the use of abusive speech & curses. The ones I knew insisted that we are imperfect & must continue to err in words until paradise. They don't feel remorse or even want to ever change their inborn traits. Yet they can quickly point out the faults of others...COMING LATER
They are taking over from their Godfather presido Rutherford. His writings and public discusses were fill with curses.
But they will claim to be Christians
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 10:48pm On Aug 31, 2022
Janosky:
Galatians 2:11-14 & Acts 10:34, between Paul and Peter , which of them disobeyed/disagree with the doctrine of Galatians 2:11-14 & Acts 10:34?

Oga Tctrills, you profess Christian.
I have 2 questions to ask you:
When you disagree with 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13, have you disobeyed God ?

When you a Christian disagree with 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13, have you disobeyed 1 John 5:3? & Disobeyed God?
Please simplify your question. I don't get it.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 10:49pm On Aug 31, 2022
tctrills:
I don't understand your point, you stated earlier that JW could marry non-JW that was what I said.
Also, check 1 corinthians 7.39 it has nothing to do with the mother of Timothy.
1 Corinthians 7:39

39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
At the bolded, Are you seeing what I am talking about? You're seeing the lies abi?

grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 10:53pm On Aug 31, 2022
SopaterOfBeroea:
Fake intelligence officer wey dey think upside down
He's no longer running after Rozz the scammer grin grin grin grin
Oga Spartacus you dey laff my intelligence officer grin grin grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 10:54pm On Aug 31, 2022
I'm back from rehab
Religious section never changed much
Madximus on the loose again grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 10:59pm On Aug 31, 2022
Courz:
But you are in a Satanic Cult. Your beloved Watchtower dabbles in spiritism to dish you JWs Rotten spiritual food at the proper time. Who are you to point fingers at another person when your situation is worse? You are in an Antichrist Cult that seeks to replace Jesus.

Tell me, What is the One True religion doing with 666 and Angel number 777 from the below Broadcast video from one of your Freemason gods? Remember, Watchtower says they get their doctrines from Angels as channel of communication and Jesus chased away the Holy Spirit when he came invisibly.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcFrwFvOKw
Courz abeg which of their book be this
Mek I go download am grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SopaterOfBeroea(m): 11:02pm On Aug 31, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Oga Spartacus you dey laff my intelligence officer grin grin grin grin grin
Go school, you no gree grin grin grin grin
Sopater don turn Spartacus for your eye grin
Ewu
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:08pm On Aug 31, 2022
SopaterOfBeroea:
Go school, you no gree grin grin grin grin
Sopater don turn Spartacus for your eye grin
Ewu
Abeg gettat grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:10pm On Aug 31, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Courz abeg which of their book be this
Mek I go download am grin grin grin
The book where they talked about Holy Spirit removed and messages from Angels is Titled Preservation published 1932 By Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and International Bible Students Association. Look at my screenshots above for the pages.

Another book that talked about anointed remnants receiving messages from Angels is Vindication Volume 3 published 1932 by Watchtower and IBSA. Check page 250.

You can get these books from jwfacts.com. Go to page where all Watchtower publications are and search for them under Books.

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:11pm On Aug 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Behold Mr SUPERSTORY!



It's good to make friends but then a believer is not supposed to be a close companion of an atheist a worshipers of the god of sex! John 8:32
But you dey follow Rozz for nairaland, later una wan link up
Hypocrisy at it's peak grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:14pm On Aug 31, 2022
Courz:
The book where they talked about Holy Spirit removed and messages from Angels is Titled Preservation published 1932 By Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and International Bible Students Association. Look at my screenshots above for the pages.

Another book that talked about anointed remnants receiving messages from Angels is Vindication Volume 3 published 1932 by Watchtower and IBSA. Check page 250.

You can get these books from jwfacts.com. Go to page where all Watchtower publications are and search for them under Books.
Thanks
I have a website that has all their old publications starting from William Miller to George storrss down to the present day.
I have their pioneers secret book alongside the latest edition of shepherd the flock.
Including leaked letters and documents, I will make sure I investigate them to the roots.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by tctrills: 11:17pm On Aug 31, 2022
Courz:
At the bolded, Are you seeing what I am talking about? You're seeing the lies abi?

grin grin grin
I hope he gets to explain himself better
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:19pm On Aug 31, 2022
Templee333:
SOME SECRETS WE KNEW
We knew some deep truth that weren't revealed to other churches because they didnt worship the true God.The identities of GOG OF MAGOG,BABYLON THE GREAT,THE MAN WITH INK HORN IN THE BOOK OF EZEKIEL,WILD BEAST OF REVELATION & ITS SEVEN HEADS,LITTLE FLOCK AND OTHER SHEEP were unknown to non JW because they didnt serve the true God. But since we humbled ourselves,Jehovah revealed them to us. But if u look at it,all the terms above in capitals has been explained & reexplained differently frm time to time by the GB. All the explanations are meaningles & irelevant,yet the JW think they have some special knowledge that others don't have. I took time to study those shit so & felt special for knowing the sacred secret of God.
All those teachings are convoluted, no iota of truth in it, especially that mediatorless other sheep
E no easy for PIMOS like me
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:29pm On Aug 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The problem with you is that you listened with keen interest to Apostates far much more than you did during your days among JWs.
That's why you carry all what they told you in their website everywhere you go.

I'm 100% sure that Templee333 also decided to live his life without being under any religious oversight but the difference between you and him is that he never go deep into the websites of Apostates like you've invested so much, that's why everything you've been posting on this forum seems strange to him.

Of course he also agreed with the common slogan of the Apostates "JW is a CULT" as that's the first thing the Apostates tell you to format everything you can think about Jesus and his teachings so by the time you're deep in their ideology you will find out that you can't even preach anything about Jesus again because you will end up coming to agree with what you want to trash JW organization where you must live your life in harmony with the same line of thought with fellow believers! John 17:22

Based on my understanding Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of the group.
Why did i come to that conclusion?

Group founders always have a unique teaching that the group mustn't temper with.
Most of the things Russell believe has been changed!

Group founders always pass on the mantle of leadership to their bloodline. No Russell is a member of the Body after his death!

Group founders are taken as infallible. The organization teaches that the Governing Body is not infallible.

Only Group founders makes changes at will but the organization keep making amendments till now saying Jesus is directing them.

So saying Charles Taze Russell whose teachings no longer holds water today is the founder any right thinking person should know that can't be true! smiley
Is that how you downplayed a sincere man like C.T.Rusell. The organization holds him in high esteem which I also did at one point. Remember he was believed to be the FDS spoken in Jesus' parable.
He came up with your 'Invisible Prescence' doctrine
Your 607BC date and 1914 which the whole organizational structure is built on.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:33pm On Aug 31, 2022
Templee333:
QUESTION YOUNG PEOPLE ASK
Since i grew up to be much different frm the people in my environment,i had no confidant.People around me didn't take spiritual things serious so i didnt seek their advice on how to live my life or make decisions,rather,i turned to JW publications to seek advice on how to live my life.I read the bible everyday & had finished the whole bible frm cover to cover many times.The JW book " questions young people ask,answers that work" volume 1 & 2,were my best advisers. I made sure to read books & magazines that were published even b4 i was born & i knew "Jehovah's will" more than the average JW. Sometimes i went into a quiet place in a nearby bush to read & ponder Jhvh's thought. I devour many experiences of brothers & sisters who served Jehvh with their whole heart & wanted to be like them.I ignored what everyone said & listened to the Faithful & Discrete Slave alone.I made many strange decisions because of what i fed my mind with.I was a stranger among my people...
That YPA never made sense to me, I couldn't relate to the contents of the book.
It was a pure depiction of Western culture (precisely American lifestyle). I still don't relate to the book, at some point I stopped reading it.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:40pm On Aug 31, 2022
cornelboy:
Sorry sir! Na reasonable people we need here.
You shouldn't just crawl out of your hole and start spewing out rubbish.

Do you hava a better replacement for JW?

JW org still remains the only Christian group pragmatically following Jesus teachings and God's words.
The follow Jesus teachings and God's word but deny you the opportunity to become adopted sons of God.
Jesus is not your mediator, You can't partake during the Lord's evening meal, You're not born again, Majority of the texts in the NT don't apply to you.
Then how can you lay claim to the name "CHRISTIAN" or True follower of Christ?
Think again
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:49pm On Aug 31, 2022
achorladey:
Like his taskmasters he must apply labels and tags. How do you qualify his arrogance and independent thinking here? When Jesus denounce the religious leaders of his day they equally say he is ARROGANT and an INDEPENDENT THINKER. Do your religious support independent thinking in previous years of their existence before they got into a majority like the others and eventually go the way of others they condemn by frowning at it?


There will always be WHEATS and WEEDS in every religious denomination. Members of your religious organization from top to bottom contain WEEDS and WHEATS. You agree?





You have to plug in your HONEST or DISHONEST card. And this same religious organization of yours says many out there have HIGH MORAL STANDARDS. Where do those ones get such standards? grin grin grin Oga Bibles peak, read your Bible well and don't boast about what you cannot defend statistically. Even the Bible you have come to accept as BIBLE was not compiled by your religious organization, the name JEHOVAH used by your religious organization came into existence long before the birth of Russell the founding father of the religious organization you belong. What standards do you have that others don't have? grin You don't fornicate, CSA, homosexuality, wife swapping, spiritism or what?

Now, brothers, these things I have applied to myself and A·polʹlos for your good, that through us you may learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” so that you may not be puffed up with pride, favoring one against the other. 7 For who makes you different from another? Indeed, what do you have(standards) that you did not receive(standards)? If, in fact, you did receive(standards) it, why do you boast as though you did not receive(standards) it?
You just said my mind, the generalise then resort to name calling and straw man arguments.
Claim to be the best and most immaculate but have the most doctrinal flip-flops. Including denial of the heavenly hope for members of the consecrated churche.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 11:51pm On Aug 31, 2022
achorladey:
How will you explain the great love that exist among them when a parent of one Jehovah's witnesses saying that over his dead body his son gets married to the daughter of another family of Jehovah’s witness?

Where is the great love here?

How will you explain after sitting for close to +/- 7 hours at a convention programme and some few minutes after the programme coming to an end ELDERS exchange blows and slaps at the motor park or parking space over sitting arrangements or transport fare.

To them it will sound demeaning but na REALITY you dey see so. grin grin grin
Archoladey una side been rugged oooo
I heard one congregation wey been dey fight
But our on Cong. was just heated exchanges during elders meeting, but if C.O come dem go form good boys grin grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:00am On Sep 01, 2022
achorladey:
@ tctrills please read all carefully. All the part highlighted in red are very KEY too. Should you have any questions throw it into the mix. Let's analyse. The day I set my eyes on this, the MANIPULATION at play here is just too much especially when dealing with coded terms used in writing articles like this grin grin grin grin

For those who seek reasons why they don't marry other Christians denomination see this as the policy behind it. Keep this article. It is very useful in seeing the MANIPULATION behind this policy. Should you understand this article well enough. You will know and see how their MANIPULATION works.
You really investigated this topic
Kudos bro, I read this article several times without using my No.6
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by johnw47:
Janosky:
The dissenting groups of 3 deities worshippers & other faithless groups- free thinkers atheists.
grin grin cheesy cheesy grin
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

your usual gibberish nonsense and lies, of course

and you continue to love to blaspheme the Christian's
JEHOVAH and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible
calling them: "3 deities/3 god's", you also call THEM:
"the 3 dogheads", and you call the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost":

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:02am On Sep 01, 2022
Nelidee:
cheesy

From the above, It is crystal clear that the organisation's governing body have numerous times exposed themselves for the fraud that they are in their magazines and articles but like Courz said, the MIND CONTROL those men have on their members is so overwhelmingly strong that they can't see the truth even when it is in front of them.

It baffles me how people with a brain to think can believe that a body that made numerous failed prophecies, which they worked so hard to hide rather than admit are actually anointed and appointed by God but that is the power of MIND CONTROL. That is one of the talents of a cult....to brainwash their members to believe and do anything they are told even to the point of committing suicide. cry

But there is hope. Recent reports on reddit shows that since they recently resumed meetings & House to House, the turn out has been poor most especially in western and european countries. Some people have stopped associating totally while some prefer joining their meetings in the comfort of their home via zoom and are not ready to start carrying bag to that their masonic lodge they call Kingdom Hall. grin

God is indeed mercy and faithful. smiley
If only the ones in Nigeria will like to wake up.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:03am On Sep 01, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Thanks
I have a website that has all their old publications starting from William Miller to George storrss down to the present day.
I have their pioneers secret book alongside the latest edition of shepherd the flock.
Including leaked letters and documents, I will make sure I investigate them to the roots.
At the bolded, that's exactly what I resolved to do when I started waking up. You must know everything they are hiding from JWs.

Which website is that? Is that archive.org?That's another good resource for Old JW publications apart from jwfacts.com.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:06am On Sep 01, 2022
Templee333:
GROWING UP AS A JW
I was raised up to believe that the bible is the word of God & that it alone has the final say in everything.Worse still, I believed that it's only JW publications that explain the bible correctly.As a result,I decided to follow the direction of The GB by using their publications to have a personal bible study ev'ry week.I was the type who studied & swallowed what the JW publications said without questioning them. I knew & applied what the GB taught more than my local elders & those who've been JW b4 me.I considered bro/sis who didn't take the GB teachings seriously as weak. Honestly speaking,most of the JWs that i knew were hypocrites who preached what they didn't practice. I was totally diff from all JW that i knew & they all noticed that. I wanted 2 b the perfect example of a "Jehvh's servant" who didn't use imperfection to spoil my relationship with Jehv. I was the type who felt guilty for ev'ry little mistake i made.I rarely went anywhere without my bible...
Exactly the same thing that happened to me, I started to see other people as sinners.
The stereotype was very strong that I judged people from the outset. I thank God that recently I've been relating with people, because it really affected my social live.
Now I don't just discourse religion, I relate like a normal human being, free from any man-made rules
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:11am On Sep 01, 2022
Templee333:
NO! I AM NOT WORTHY
The annual memorial of JW is another event that captivated our young minds.We went around inviting people to the memorial.Non witnesses nicknamed the occasion as the "no! I'm not worthy" feast.There's a rumour among the non witnesses that when the memorial bread & wine (emblems) were passed to each individual JW,he'd say:
"no! i'm not worthy,take it away"
There's another rumour that the emblems were poison & we often had to answr many questn when inviting people to Memorial.Another amazing thing is that when memorial was over,the emblems were thrown away & dogs were worthy to feast on them.Perhaps the dogs & fowls that partook of the leftover emblems were more worthier than humans.
My mom use to say if you partake of the emblem you'll run mad or die.
There was a rumour that spread about a particular brother who ran mad after partaking for a long time grin grin grin grin grin
JW'S can be very funny grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:18am On Sep 01, 2022
LilMissFavvy:
I really pity whoever would read this thread and does not see that something is not right with JW and their doctrine, big Pity'.
This thread is only a tip on the iceberg,
They day I discovered that I'd been lied to all my life I went through hell throughout that week, I wasn't myself anymore.
Being a history student, I checked all the libraries available for 607BC but found none, 1914 also gave me a lot of headache.
In addition to the ad hominems and straw man arguments the use in their publications.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:26am On Sep 01, 2022
Courz:
Readers, there is confusion in this comment abi? He mentions Oteneaaron and me Courz and lumps the two of us together. Remember some comments back, I said Watchtower teaches JWs to be delusional. This comment is a Classic case of it.

This fellow believes that Oteneaaron and I are one and the same person. Why? Simply because Oteneaaron created a thread titled Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons. Because I have more than enough evidence to back up that thread, I dominated the thread. Mad MaxInDHouse seeing this, believed we are the same person and began to accuse us. Is that a logical conclusion to arrive at? No. What happened here? JWs were overwhelmed by the hard core evidence in that thread. The thread choke! They were so bitter that they began to lump 2 or 3 persons together to form one person. What is that called? Delusion.

JWs pride themselves of being best in arguments. When they are losing in it, they become sore losers. They either start name calling you or start attaching Satan to you or start saying you have different monikers. Seeing different monikers challenging them is overwhelming. So, to make themselves feel better psychologically, they start lumping 2 or 3 monikers together.

I know I have somewhat dominated this thread. Readers, does that mean I am Templee333 too? Mad MaxInDHouse claims to be an Intelligent officer. But it is disgraceful that he cannot tell the difference between I and Oteneaaron. We don't share similar beliefs. I am a Christian. I made that very clear in the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons Thread. I keep pointing fingers at the JWs with the Bible. My comments have been reflecting that. That should tell you something as a sane person. But still, Mad MaxInDHouse can't tell the difference. The delusion is strong isn't it?

Readers, this is how the psyche of a JW works. Do you want to be like this?

Thanks Mad MaxInDHouse. grin grin
I think OtenaAron has been on this forum longer than you
I use to see him during the time of ChristianFreedo and RottenNaija
Is just this your intelligence officer that is confusing himself grin grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by OgaNightmare(m): 12:30am On Sep 01, 2022
Courz:
At the bolded, that's exactly what I resolved to do when I started waking up. You must know everything they are hiding from JWs.

Which website is that? Is that archive.org?That's another good resource for Old JW publications apart from jwfacts.com.
https://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm
And AvoidJw.org & WatchtowerDocuments
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37am On Sep 01, 2022
OgaNightmare:
https://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm
And AvoidJw.org & WatchtowerDocuments
Emergency moniker created on the 31 of August 2022 to back up the existing ones!

Who among you is playing this prank torí Ọlọ́run? cheesy

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 12:39am On Sep 01, 2022
Janosky:
Just live in peace with your DELUSION & IBERIBEISM.
When I say you JWs are Satanists, you think I'm joking right?

Look at these pictures below from your Watchtower publication. Half of the pic is what is in there. When a mirror is placed beside the pic, the full picture is seen. Whose picture is that? That's Baphomet, god of Satanists a.k.a Lucifer a.k.a Great Architect of the Universe a.k.a Jehovah of the Freemasons. Watchtower cleverly put half of the pic in there but their Freemason brethren revealed you can see the full pic with a mirror.

Tell me, what is the picture of Satan doing in your own Watchtower publication? What is the purpose of this?

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