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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by sultan003(m): 11:55am On Sep 02, 2022
Hadizometer:

Are they paid based on work done or monthly?

Everything in the university is based on work done...

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Nobody: 12:09pm On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

So because of all that u said above it is now justifiable for government to pay Assu 6 months salary of job not done. Two wrongs never makes a right. If government is continues to run this ways then it will just collapse one day and u will be one of the first to start shouting and causing ur leaders. Even Po become president, this lecturers will still go on strike by scamming govt and still wants to be paid.
Why has the country not collapsed for the billions that one individual has stolen.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:30pm On Sep 02, 2022
Revolution2022:
What about the lawmakers who will go on recess for 3 months or more and they will be paid their jumbo salaries in full?Bihar will travel out of Nigeria for medical tourism for many months and he will be paid his salary in full.Buhari is the minister of petroleum.What has he been doing as a minister and he is receiving fat salaries in that self-.appointment

If you admire been a politician so bad, you can switch to politics.

After all, there are lecturers who are actively working as a politician

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by NezzyMike: 12:31pm On Sep 02, 2022
Connected1:

It's obvious you use a cheap phone not to know that auto correct causes that spelling mistake, why do you even care, all you guys do in schools is to massage your egos by stepping on student's self esteem.

Rubbish.



Nothing like repeated autocorrect, go and learn the acronym first before judging the union.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:34pm On Sep 02, 2022
IboHausaYoruba:
I feel ASUU are too self centered, the economy situations all over the world do not support such bogus requests at this umpteenth time. ASUU has never fought for the welfare of Nigerian students since i was born all they always ask for is salary, salary and salary increment. Let them resign in droves, we've got many brighter minds out there looking for opportunities.

Lecturers that will spend half of their periods telling students their life stories.

It is only few of them that actually teach!

Yet, they're the ones clamouring for salary increment every now and then. Most of the professor's cannot even see clearly, and they also want salary increment.

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:36pm On Sep 02, 2022
chiokeman:
But buhari govt pays ransom to terrorists and still they haven't stopped.

So you agree ASUU can be compared with terrorists?

All they've been doing since the past two decades is terrorizing the educational sector by constantly holding the students as hostage

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:38pm On Sep 02, 2022
loko50:
I wonder how old you are and if you have knowledge of what ASUU is requesting for. Your biased opinion is solely based on witheld salaries but you failed to mention the renegotiation of the current salary. How can workers be on same salary since 2009? It would be better if you can provide a more general view that this monolithic approach. This make you look like someone sponsored by the government.

I wonder if you are following the strike update.

The government has increased their salaries, implemented UTAS, before they went on to declare indefinite strike!
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:40pm On Sep 02, 2022
fergie001:
My dear Oblivion,

You should have mentioned the demands and name the ones the FG has fulfilled.

I guess you are one of those old professors that can't see clearly again.

Sir Fergie, I mentioned how government had increased their salary by 30-60k

Implemented UTAS, and there has been some type of revisitation going on at federal universities
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by GeneralBuhari: 12:42pm On Sep 02, 2022
sultan003:



There is nothing like work not done in the university academic system, because whenever the strike is called off all those semesters and session paused will be resumed and concluded before a new session is started.

So the work is still done, except when those semesters and sessions are cancelled that is when work is not done

Just look at your stupid logic.

So let's assume you are in charge of building a house for me.

And then you decide to stop coming to work in 2020

And then you come back in 2022 to resume the work from where you stopped

And then you insist that I must pay you for the work you didnt do in 2021 simply because you are resuming from where you stopped.

What type of nonsense reasoning is that?

And yet you want the whole world to call you an intellectual?

No work no pay, abeg!
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Ray02: 12:42pm On Sep 02, 2022
[quote author=Softmirror

ALL THAT NIGERIA NEEDS, IS A POLITICAL WILL THAT WORKS. NOT TALK-TALK BUT ACTION. THIS GOVERNMENT MUST HOLD THEIR STAND AGAINST ASSU AND FIGHT THIS FIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL.

NO WORK NO PAY.[/b][/quote]
Lol. Are you talking about political will just to deal with ASUU?
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:43pm On Sep 02, 2022
Godoverevery:


More pressure to move there retirement age to 70yrs??

ASUU is the most selfish union in this country follow by the doctors.

How can a union want there retirement age increase twice within 8yrs.

It was moved from 60yrs to 65yrs just 8yrs back now they want it to be moved to 70yrs.

Are they the only civil servant in the country??


They are not the only civil servant in the country. They are not even the only civil servant in the educational sector.

Yet, they feel on top of the government..

They can declare strike whenever they are tired of working, and resume with salaries for months not worked for.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:50pm On Sep 02, 2022
princeade86:
students are still enjoying home. Their parents are still enjoying seen them staying at home with them and helping them do one or two things. If not, it doesn't cost students to troop out and stage a massive protest against government by delaying their destiny. I don't know why people are blaming ASUU for the strike, while in every sectors of government, billions of naira are missing without traces. Is unfair. If Nigeria labor Congress can hold government tight like ASUU, by now, Nigeria would have better. But their own sector already compromise with bad leadership.

It's only a foolish student, or a student into cyber fraud, prostitution, etc that will claim to be enjoying this strike

No parents is happy seeing their ward lagging behind.

The world is a competitive place to be, and ASUU- the union are keeping future leaders at home.

They are some people who still beleive in education being the best legacy!

Some students are frustrated, while some are on the bridge of loosing their sanity or all hope in education.


The self centered union are not showing any form of empathy!

And we all know they plan on compensating the students by kick-starting exams ASAP
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:53pm On Sep 02, 2022
princeade86:
students are still enjoying home. Their parents are still enjoying seen them staying at home with them and helping them do one or two things. If not, it doesn't cost students to troop out and stage a massive protest against government by delaying their destiny. I don't know why people are blaming ASUU for the strike, while in every sectors of government, billions of naira are missing without traces. Is unfair. If Nigeria labor Congress can hold government tight like ASUU, by now, Nigeria would have better. But their own sector already compromise with bad leadership.

No sane student, I repeat NO SANE STUDENT is ever going to protest on behalf of ASUU ever again.

ASUU have proven to be selfish, self centered and they have shown that they lack empathy for their students.

Constantly holding student's as ransom while expecting pay is selfish.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:54pm On Sep 02, 2022
samuelpeters:
I still believe ASUU and FG are not sincere. Both do not want to shift ground.

But ASUU should have called off the strike, and start negotiation with the incoming government that would have atleast more than 4 years to implement their demands.

FG should not pay them shi shi. Atleast make them feel wetin students de feel

My guy! No talk again.

You've said it all.

If government pays them, they'll be more motivated to declare two years strike tomorrow, and nothing will happen!!!
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 12:57pm On Sep 02, 2022
samuelpeters:

Dormant staff members is different from striking staff members.

The former is not doing anything because their industry/place of work is not functional. While the latter decided to stop providing tertiary educational services.

I get your point. But if they pay them, what about students? Who will compensate them for wasted time.


The students compensation are in heaven
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by fergie001: 12:59pm On Sep 02, 2022
Oblivion34:
I guess you are one of those old professors that can't see clearly again.

Sir Fergie, I mentioned how government had increased their salary by 30-60k

Implemented UTAS, and there has been some type of revisitation going on at federal universities

garfield1:
A little salary increment.

My dear Oblivion, I am not an old Professor. Sometimes, ask questions especially on issues that are a bit unclear to you.

What you failed to mention is that salaries of the GAs and ALs were reduced to accommodate that of Professors and Readers, so you think that is fair, just and alright?

Who told you the FG has implemented UTAS?
NITDA affirmed that UTAS bettered IPPIS, so where did you hear that they assented to UTAS (in writing). is it supposed to be a gentleman's agreement or be done in writing like IPPIS was done?

What do you mean some type of visitation?
What type of visitation?
Be specific about it.

The FG can even negotiate with the salary aspect, it is not the only demand!

This is the fact as of today:

‘’They met with the president, he set up a committee headed by the Chief of Staff that should resolve this quickly, the world saw it in the press, they did nothing. The president set up the Munzali committee, we met them finish, nothing, they didn’t come back. They set up the Nimi Briggs committee, it’s now more than three months, two months we finished negotiating with them, they didn’t come back.

‘’The president directed the Ministry of Education to finish within two weeks, two weeks has passed, they didn’t come back.’’



Now, listen to the Chairperson, Committee of VCs in Nigeria;

"This issue of saying we don’t have money to put into the university system shouldn’t be. It is like the Needs Assessment fund; it was not given to ASUU, it was given to the universities.

“When they say we don’t have funds, what they are saying is that ‘these universities are our own but we don’t have money to give. We don’t have money to pay for overhead to run the universities.’ I listened to Keyamo also. He is not even at the centre of the whole thing.”


Now, gently ..... Go through this, just yesterday;
https://dailytrust.com/fact-check-has-fg-met-80-of-asuus-demands-as-education-ministry-claimed

I will appreciate your reply.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:00pm On Sep 02, 2022
ejimatic:
. I am only concerned about students at home.

As for ASUU if they want to resign let them do so. ASUU should learn how to shift ground.

After all they are fighting for their pockets not in the interest of Nigeria.

FG should put an end to their excesses No union is sacred in Nigeria.

It's a very simple thing. If they are not happy with their working conditions, they should resign and see how the grass is greener on the other side

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by blackpanda: 1:03pm On Sep 02, 2022
Niklaus398:
Count the amounts of months ASUU strike doing others rigime and count that of APC ...apc have broken the record. Useless party. Na God go punish them and their president there


So bottomline is ASUU has always been striking under every regime. APC wasnt spared.

God has already blessed the President with long life and prosperity. All you have is hate and envy grin

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by garfield1: 1:06pm On Sep 02, 2022
fergie001:

What is been offered them?
That's what I was asking him and now I am asking you!

A little salary increment
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by garfield1: 1:07pm On Sep 02, 2022
LORDCYPRESS:
..

So u think the incoming govt will like to pay the debt.. They did hv any idea abt abi??

My question is why can't fg agree to fulfil thire own side of agreement they had wit ASsu??

If they thire straight forward.

This agreement was signed during the gej era and buhari could not meet up.it is better they negotiate afresh with a new govt

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:07pm On Sep 02, 2022
TenQ:

I can understand why you are oblivious of the true situation on ground.

If the FG had negotiated with ASUU without the need of strikes, what would have happened? Who caused the strike.

Who weaponized payment of salary to frustrate negotiations!?

As far as you are concerned the FG is a saint: they conceded to 60% of the demands of a negotiation of a renegotiation by the FG!!?

I beleive there were some underground negotiations going on between the government and ASUU before they declared strike.

ASUU wants rapid action!

I support the no work no salary!

It is the only way to stop them the incessant strikes
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:09pm On Sep 02, 2022
Softmirror:


IT TELLS YOU HOW USELESS THEY ARE TO ME. VERY USELESS THAT I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE I HAVE BEEN MIS-RESPRESENTING THE LETTERS THAT DEPICTS ASUU/ ASSU. BUT THEN, IF FROM ALL I HAVE WRITTEN WHAT MATTERS TO YOU IS A SPELLING ERROR THEN YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE TYPE OF PROFESSORS AM TALKING ABOUT. DYSFUNCTIONAL TO THE NIGERIAN SOCIETY.

grin loko50

I am sorry, I can't help but to buhahahaha grin cheesy

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Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by fergie001: 1:10pm On Sep 02, 2022
garfield1:


This agreement was signed during the gej era and buhari could not meet up.it is better they negotiate afresh with a new govt
It was under Yar'Adua and was re-negotiated in December 2020.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:12pm On Sep 02, 2022
TenQ:

ASUU and NMA are the best organised labour force in Nigeria!

That is why it is impossible to break them unlike your other unions: think of that.

I hope you know that the joint organisation of Research institutes in Nigeria had been on strike since October 2021 till date?

This strike is making us aware of unions that we never thought existed.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by loko50(m): 1:13pm On Sep 02, 2022
Oblivion34:


I wonder if you are following the strike update.

The government has increased their salaries, implemented UTAS, before they went on to declare indefinite strike!

Increased salary by how many percent. Compare that to Prof. Briggs report. Be objective
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by loko50(m): 1:14pm On Sep 02, 2022
Haywhy3579:

Liers u better very claims b4 coming to post any thing on social media.

Whatever you typed here has no meaning
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:14pm On Sep 02, 2022
Connected1:
The Government should maintain their No Work No Pay stance.

I already made the mistake of applying to study in a Federal University, so I will support the cause for a better education system for the future generations of Nigerian Students.

The incessant strikes of ASUU kills the little drive and passion to study that the lecturers couldn't kill with their wickedness.

They say students are enjoying the strike, and parents are enjoying seeing their parents at home while their mates are moving forward

Sick mentality
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by loko50(m): 1:17pm On Sep 02, 2022
Godoverevery:


More pressure to move there retirement age to 70yrs??

ASUU is the most selfish union in this country follow by the doctors.

How can a union want there retirement age increase twice within 8yrs.

It was moved from 60yrs to 65yrs just 8yrs back now they want it to be moved to 70yrs.

Are they the only civil servant in the country??


This your submission shows you are not up to date. The retirement age for professors is 70 already. Retirement age is not one of ASUU's request from the government. I wonder whether you travelled back in time.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:20pm On Sep 02, 2022
Missionaire:

Where is it done that a union will declare 6 months strike, and still be expecting a salary for work not done?

Where is it done that a Union will return from strike and still do the backlog of the work they didn't do while on strike (without being paid)?

It is a simple thing. Either ASUU is paid for the time on strike since they will still do the backlog of the work just as they have been doing or they don't get paid but it is agreed that they will start on a new slate thereby making new students, final year students and pending lectures to be overboarded.

Let's be realistic here.

Lecturers do not really do backlog of works they didn't do during the strike.

If the management is kind enough, they'll give two weeks grace for revisions before exams.

While some schools just starts exam the following week after Resumption.

How is that the same as doing any work?

ASUU are not the only civil servant in Nigeria. If they don't want to do the backlog of works not done, they should resign and allow new lecturers takeover from where they stopped!

Nigeria has enough qualified professors who are willing to take on their jobs if they resign tomorrow
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:22pm On Sep 02, 2022
GeneralBuhari:
ASUU own don too much.

There should be consequences for going on all these unnecessary strikes.

I'm glad the federal government has decided to remind ASUU who the boss really is now.

By the time ASUU finally decides to come back from their indefinite leave, even if they eventually get paid for the work not done, at least their body go don hear am well.

One union will just be thinking they are better than the rest meanwhile you can't even see the evidence of excellence in what they claim they are producing.

Next time when they want to declare their usual annual holiday a.k.a strike, the fear of not getting paid in the end will make them to think twice.

They must not even get paid.

The government has invited them to several meetings telling them what they can offer.

They keep insisting on their own terms while claiming the students should sacrifice their time for the cause.

If the students can sacrifice their precious time, they should also be able to sacrifice their precious salary for the cause.
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Oblivion34: 1:23pm On Sep 02, 2022
Jflex07:
Trash from an Apc paid urrchin. You blame ASUU but exonerate the useless government.

THE GOVERNMENT HAS TRIED.

THEY HAVE EVEN DONE BEYOND EXPECTATIONS. ASUU SHOULD SHOW SOME EMPATHY AND RESUME ASAP
Re: Paying ASUU 6 Months Arears Will Promote More Strike - Oblivion by Godoverevery: 1:25pm On Sep 02, 2022
loko50:


This your submission shows you are not up to date. The retirement age for professors is 70 already. Retirement age is not one of ASUU's request from the government. I wonder whether you travelled back in time.

See who is up to date.......is only professors that are member of ASUU ??

They want all members retirement age move from 65yrs to 70yrs it was part of there demands.

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