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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Yusufisraelj(m): 2:23pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Biodun556: Very sad indeed, but we can't tell if he didn't execute them based on tribal grounds. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Patriotsleague: 2:23pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Everythinggood:The results is more than 2million igbos dead, and perpetual hate and distrust between Hausa and igbos. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:24pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Patriotsleague: Yusufisraelj: TRASH |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by insabarnur(m): 2:30pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
The Man whose ignorance brought my village (Nigeria) to it present disaster |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Christistruth00: 2:32pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
The British left 3 Autonomous Regions the North the West and the East With their own Laws and Government It was Gen Ironsi who believed his own unitary System where everything would be under him was better in 1966 Till today his People are not happy with it especially after the North got their hands on Power and fell in love with Ironsi’s unitary System that gave them all control of Nigeria Can you blame them? The North wouldn’t have built Abuja without that Power 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Christistruth00: 2:35pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
chukkystar: prime minister Balewa made the same mistake of over trusting Majors Don Okafor and Ifeajuna who were supposed to be protecting him 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 2:35pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
There is a copy of decree 1966 law which was made, from page 1 to the last page, I have all the copy, I wanted to upload it here but its too large now, Ironsi abolished regional and gave law that central controls and all are under federal republic which he unified it and abolished state rule. The mistake we youth are making is instead of us to sit down and fight our common enemies, still this enemies are using region to cause confliction among us, we all should learn from the mistakes our fore father made and try to work as one. I'm not here to debate but to state fact and what's in the law passed by Ironsi administration. hammer567: 1 Like
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 2:36pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kagd10: What was his rank? and why are you not bold enough to mention his name? and again why would a quartermaster general that is senior position be with a junior officer hold they keys to the armoury he doesn't have a battalion so he cannot hold armoury keys, can you tell us his rank? |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:37pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Christistruth00: WAS IRONSI ELECTED OR MILITARY DICTATOR? STOP ABUSING BASIC INTELIGENCE WITH SENTIMENT. SECOND WAS OJUKWU THE REGIONAL GOVERNOR OF EASTERN REGION UNDER IRONSI? DID THE SW HAVE A MILITARY REGIONAL GOVERNOR? DID THE NORTH HAVE A MILITARY REGIONAL GOVERNOR? SO, HOW DID IRONSI ABOLISH REGIONALISM, VIA FEDERALISM TO REPUBLICANISM? 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Christistruth00: 2:39pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
chukkystar: prime minister Balewa made the same mistake of over trusting Majors Don Okafor and Ifeajuna who were supposed to be protecting him Major Don Okafor was made the Head of the Federal Guards on Balewa’s Recommendation Balewa was very fond of Major Don Okafor because he grew up in Kano and spoke fluent Hausa 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:44pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Christistruth00: ANSWER THE QUESTION |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 2:44pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Before Gowon made the law, the regional are subject to rule herself which decree 1966 under 34 stop and direct all to be under military commission. He (Ironsi) unified, then there is no even oil to debate on which most depend on timber , coco then and for the military to have access to that, he changed and unified us through the constitution but before it will be fully implemented, he was assassinated and the next government fully implement and create more state cos the power have already been given to military to dictate the affairs of nations hammer567: |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nony43(m): 2:45pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
olatuns2017: You might not live to see that day. Watch what you say. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by bibe(m): 2:46pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
For those saying he abolished regional government, that's false. You have to put it into proper context. There was a breakdown in government/law and order following Awolowos incaseration for treason which led to the first coup. The first coup left a vacuum in leadership in the West, mid-west and North and to stabilize polity he centered the government but still appointed leadership from the West North, Midwest and East as regional administrators. Basically, the regions still existed and had resource control. He didn't abrogate resource to the center. His handling of the coup plotters leaves a lot to be desired but you cannot in all honesty criticize his handling of the remaining issues. If Bringing government to the center wasn't the right thing to do at the time, why didn't the counter coup plotters decentralize it? But they went even further by abolishing the regional government which he still left and went further to abrogate resources to the center thus truncating resource control. For that, blame Gowon and his enablers! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Kagd10: 2:47pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
obyno82: Why are you asking me? Na ment? Point is he wasn't an Igbo leader. He was a junior officer who was killed by his brethren. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by bibe(m): 2:47pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Biodun556: You have to put it into proper context. There was a breakdown in government/law and order following Awolowos incaseration for treason which led to the first coup. The first coup left a vacuum in leadership in the West, mid-west and North and to stabilize polity he centered the government but still appointed leadership from the West North, Midwest and East as regional administrators. Basically, the regions still existed and had resource control. He didn't abrogate resource to the center. His handling of the coup plotters leaves a lot to be desired but you cannot in all honesty criticize his handling of the remaining issues. If Bringing government to the center wasn't the right thing to do at the time, why didn't the counter coup plotters decentralize it? But they went even further by abolishing the regional government which he still left and went further to abrogate resources to the center thus truncating resource control. For that, blame Gowon and his enablers! |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:48pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
nickyvil: U STILL HAD YOUR REGIOANLISM AND REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNOR. THE SHIFT AWAY FROM REGIONALISM STARTED WITH GOWON, CREATION OF 12 STATES. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Spandau: 2:50pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SuperWriter: Real hero my toes! |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by GoodIsGod: 2:50pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartPolician: I wonder why the atheists did attack your post. May be they are having a rethink |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by SmartyPants(m): 2:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
obyno82: You are missing the point because you are fixated on labels. Region, province, state, or whatever, this is the point: Ironsi abrogated the autonomy of the regions and concentrated power in the central government in a unitary military system of government. The regions remained in principle after this, but their autonomy was stripped, and their governors were military governors answerable to Ironsi in the military hierarchy. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Spandau: 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
perez100: You have started with your lies. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Spandau: 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
gidgiddy: Be lying to yourself! |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by SmartyPants(m): 2:53pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567: The regions were mere administrative units with no autonomy from the centre. These military governors were answerable to the Military head of State. This act of Ironsi's was indeed the real end of regionalism. Ironically, it cost him his life as that decree led to the riots that ended in the June 66 coup. 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 2:54pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Decree 1966 shift power to the center giving them power to appoint and change the self ruled which regional enjoyed to military by centralizing it.. Now the law shift power from regional to center and that is the beginning of the end for us all.. The appoint will be made by the military commission against when every region chooses their representative. To made room for more state to be created. hammer567: |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:55pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartyPants: nickyvil: IT WAS A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP, WITH REGIONALISM. THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID FOR GOWON. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Nwunyeodogwu(f): 2:56pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
[color=#000099][/color] Rozross: You too like men…….everytime men this men that, kukuma become a man naw. Please rest. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by SmartyPants(m): 2:58pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567: It was a relay race. One person started the work, and another finished it but without question, Ironsi started it. It was a very unpopular move back then, but guess who supported it out of the regional governors? Ojukwu alone. 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 2:58pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartyPants: WHAT YOU SHOULD CLAIM IS THAT IRONSI TRUNCATED YOUR DEMOCARCY FOR MILITARY RULE. THEN AGAIN, HE WAS THEIR FOR ONLY LESS THAN 6 MONTHS, AND WAS NOT GIVEN TIME TO MANAGE THE CRISIS THAT FOLLOWED THE COUP AND TRANSITION BACK TO DEMOCARCY. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 2:58pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Please try to download find copy of decree 1966 and read from start to end. If the law is no passed, there won't be Gowon dictating And creating more state under military rules. hammer567:[center][/center][center][/center] |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:00pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
nickyvil: IF IRONSI THAT WAS THEIR FOR LESS THAN 6 MONTHS, INTRODUCE UNITARY SYSTEM, WHAT STOP NORTH AND SW REMOVING IT FOR NEARLY 7 DECADES? YOUR CLAIM CANNOT HOLD WATER. WHAT YOU SHOULD CLAIM IS THAT IRONSI TRUNCATED YOUR DEMOCARCY FOR MILITARY RULE. THEN AGAIN, HE WAS THEIR FOR ONLY LESS THAN 6 MONTHS, AND WAS NOT GIVEN TIME TO MANAGE THE CRISIS THAT FOLLOWED THE COUP AND TRANSITION BACK TO DEMOCARCY. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:02pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
THIS IS WHAT THEY DID, AS SOON AS BUHARI ENETR POWER THEY STARTED BLAMING GEJ AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, 7 YEARS PAST. THIS ONE IS STILL BLAMING IRONSI, EVEN AFTER NEARLY 7 DECADES. ALL THE PRESIDENT FROM NORTH AND SOUTH WEST ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE ABI? |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by malcomvee: 3:04pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
The fearless lion of the east. Such was his prowess in battle.. all the missions he led the british troops while he was there.. he came back without a scratch.. hence they called him “IRONSIDE” Rumors were that he could not be killed and he kept a pet crocodile ( Aguiyi). Sadly he was a one Nigerianist and he paid the Iron price for his folly. Biodun556: |
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