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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by guychidile: 3:05pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Rest on. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:06pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
malcomvee: HE ACTUALLY LOVED NIGERIA, THAT WAS FOR SURE. THE WAY HE SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH THEM. TUEH! 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 3:10pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartyPants: How did he concentrate power to the central government? what he did was centralize the civil service to make his administration easier, as similar to a military high command system |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by LienwaltAbel(m): 3:11pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kagd10:Ironsi and Azikiwe!? Whete did you hear this from? |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 3:12pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kagd10: So a Colonel is a junior officer abi? Oga when you are ready to stop lying i will know. Meanwhile be bold enough and tell us his name and tribe? what are you scared off, since you lied that no igbo military leader was killed that day. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 3:13pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Kagd10: Oga is a Colonel a junior officer? True or False and point of correction no quartermaster general holds armory keys. Again please answer the question. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by obyno82: 3:14pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartyPants: But were regional premiers not answerable to Lagos? |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Truthdeypain: 3:14pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Iraloren: They know what they are doing. It's propaganda. As a boy even my father refused to tell me about the Biafran war being that I grew up in Lagos I always found that odd.(perhaps he didn't want a young boy bothering with such issues for my mental sanity) Basically in school whenever the stuff about biafra came up I knew nothing all these afonja kids will just keep yarning hate speech, no logical arguments, just stuff like IGBOS are bastards and stuff like that including my so called friends. They are just dumb anyways just bunch of aspiring yahoo boys, Mr Oyewusi how I hate that man, during govt class this guy said all all sorts of rubbish hate speech, looking back now I realize I never knew the power of hate speech, when we learnt Traditional systems of govt this guy will say the Igbos were a scattered and useless tribe who didn't have a sophisticated system of govt like the yoruba, and basically were wandering about, where the textbook clearly said we had an acephalous and democratic system. The fool would always spend time saying that Igbos were Useless folks who waged a war against Nigeria and murdered a bunch of Nigerians. It was so co ordinates and regimented, their PROPAGANDA Back then when I first heard something about 3.5 million people starved to death I actually thought it was the biafrans who did that, ![]() ![]() I don't reply any of these bastards! They are evil the lot of them. AWOLOWO is a God to then just as TINUBU is so is GOWON, infact I once saw a piece where someone write that the fastest way to become a NATIONAL HERO in Nigeria is to kill a bunch of IGBOS. Everyone's happy. RIP to all fallen Biafran heroes even the millions of kids women and sucklings who died in the most excruciating way possible. Imagine watching yourself die of hunger. WE WILL REMEMBER EVERYTHING AND FORGET NOTHING. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:17pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
obyno82: VERY VITAL POINT, YOU RAISED, THE REGION WRE ANSWERABLE TO PARLIAMENT IN LAGOS. IRONSI JUST ADDED MILITARY STRUCTURE TO REGIOANALISM. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 3:17pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
franchasofficia:Who is talking about creation of states? We are talking about removal of federalism. Go and read about decree 34 aka unification decree. Northerners protested, chanting "araba" meaning "let's secede" or "let's break apart". But no way! The igbos wanted one Nigeria! Una must stay for the marriage. Unity beggers! 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:23pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
ADAMUdaCOWBOY: CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW, MOVING FROM FEDERATION TO REPUBLIC IS NOW UNIFICATION DECREE. UNA GO SCHOOL AT ALL? IF YOU ARE NOT LEARNED, GO BACK A PAGE AND SEE THE DEFINITION FOR BOTH.
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:25pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
THE REPUBLIC WAS NECESARY FOR IRONSI TO BE MILITARY HEAD OF STATE. AS OPPOSED TO THE QUEEN OR CEREMONIAL PRESIDENT THAT EXISTED IN NIGERIA. AS FOR YOUR REGIONALISM, THEY WERE INTACT, UNTIL GOWON HAPPENED TO NIGERIA. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by SmartyPants(m): 3:27pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
obyno82: The level of control was much higher. Regional governments had a high degree of autonomy not only in running their civil services but also in expenditure. They could execute policy directions of their own, similar to State governors of today. The military governors were just subordinates who served at the whim of the military head of state. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:29pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
SmartyPants: WELCOME TO LESS THAN 6 MONTHS DITATORSHIP. PLEASE GET OVER IT, THIS IS 2022 NOT 1966. MAKE TRIBALISM NO KILL YOU THERE. BIGOT! |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by nickyvil: 3:30pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Now I will explain this to you, the creation favored the north at first north was not cool with it and wanted out, Oil was discovered in 1956 but then Nigeria depend on Timber, coco and limestone, Ajaokuta.. We fully stated making oil our priority by 1970 which it grew from drastically. The north stated creating more state or local government which we south instead of us to come unite, we are divided by hate, they have more legislator and most of the corrupts politician are one when it comes to sharing looting so this is almost impossible cos all are just fighting for their pocket. Thats is the bitter truth hammer567: |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:32pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
nickyvil: WHAT YOU ARE WRITING IS CRAP. GOWON CAME WITH DECREE 14 OF 1967 WHICH BROKE NIGERIA INTO 12 STATES AND ENDED REGIONALISM.
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by cyrilamx(m): 3:34pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Ballo1292:Oga stop attempting to rewrite history or deflate the evil the Ironsi govt did with such unification decree 34 of 1966. With an open mind whether u called it individual actions or not, a particular region not only ended the first republic but also destroyed our True federalism. That twin actions of 1966 got us to this pains. https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966/ 1 Like |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by doshiyad1: 3:35pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by SmartyPants(m): 3:36pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567: Where is the tribalism in my comment? I hope you are alright? |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 3:39pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567:I asked you to read and you are lazily asking me a stupid question. Ok I will answer. After independence, we were practicing a parliamentary system of government, very similar to the Westminster system practiced by the UK where power is decentralised and the regions were powerful. Ironsi came with his oversabi and "unified" Nigeria, making it a republic, insisting that appointments and promotion will strictly be on the basis of merit. Ironsi did not do that because he gave a fuçk about merit, he just knew igbos who had a majority in the civil service will dominate everyone. The northerners resisted the move knowing well how they will suffer under Igbo dominance but for where! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Truthdeypain: 3:40pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
franchasofficia: AWOLOWO is the greatest thing to happen to yorubaland. He is a GOD to them. His BLOCKADE AND GENOCIDE initiatives are celebrated in yoruba land. His image must be protected at all costs. He paved the way for the advancement of the yoruba race, a tribe that hitherto has always existed and lived in the shadow of the IGBOs as everyone else during that era. Don't say the name AWOLOWO without putting the "CHIEF" it is disrespectful. Show him some respect. It's not easy to starve millions of women, kids, babies and civilians to death. He has earned his place as a Nationalist and must be afforded all the respect he can get. Long live the Genocidal, suicidal, baby killing, kwashiokor patron "CHIEF AWOLOWO" and all his comrades, he lives on in the hearts of all yorubas and Nigerians. A great HERO he was ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:43pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
ADAMUdaCOWBOY: U ARE UNLEARNED. THE UK SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT IS CENTRALISED WITH ALL POWER VESTED IN PARLIAMENT. THEY NEEDED PARLIAMENT TO PASS AN ACT FOR DEVOLVED PARLIAMENT CREATION IN THE REGIONS. THEY CALLED IT DEVOLUTION OF POWER. SO, UNDER THE NIGERIA, SYSTEM, THE REGIONS WERE ACCOUNTABLE TO PARLIAMENT. IRONSI MILITSRY SYSTEM FOLLOWED THE SAME PRINCIPLE OF REGIONALISM. ONLY DIFFERNCE IS A SHIFT FROM FEDERATION TO REPUBLIC, WHICH ALLOWED HIM TO BE MILITARY HEAD OF STATE, WITH NO MORE CEREMONIAL HEAD OF STATE.. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Hacks4dummies: 3:45pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
Rozross:I swear. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Orpe7(m): 3:45pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
The man that allowed his people start the first coup |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by faste: 3:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
derecho:That is the reason they made this post. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 3:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567: No it was not the Western Region immediately had to Closed down it own Embassy in London and had to start doing business with other Countries through the Federal Govt of Ironsi Also Major Katsina as Gov of the North was refused permission by Ironsi to attend Prime Minister Balewa's Funeral The Prime Minister didn't have the Power to stop a Premier from attending a Funeral in his own Region before 2 Likes |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by Ilaje1: 3:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
perez100: Those were governors and not premiers. It is high time we looked at things from factual point of view instead ethnic point of view. The internet is there to research when Naija started unitary government. Northern and Western premiers were killed in the coup. When did Nigeria start using governors? Why? What type of system uses governors etc should be the question you and those that approved your message should ask. |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by baralatie(m): 3:51pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567:The difference is that ironsi abolished the parliamentary system of govt and vested all powers in the federal military government of which he is the head. It became a unitary government. And by that power he can create republics or states as the power at the center wishes! You get it now! 3 Likes |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:53pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
baralatie: YES, EVERY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT WERE MURDERED, YOU DID NOT HAVE A PARLIAMENT ANY MORE. YOU DID NOT GIVE HIM TIME TO CREATE TRANSITION GOVERNMENT EITHER. HE WAS MURDERED LESS THAN 6 MONTHS LATER. AS FOR THE STATES,PLEASE SEE GOWON DECREE 14, AGAIN, GET SOMEONE TO READ IT TO YOU.
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Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by christistruth01: 3:55pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
hammer567: He was asked to hold new Elections for a new Parliamentary Govt but Ironsi was not interested |
Re: Major J T Aguiyi Ironsi During An Army Training Exercise At Warminster England by hammer567: 3:56pm On Sep 09, 2022 |
christistruth01: WE DONT KNOW THAT BECAUSE, NO TIME. HE WAS MURDERED WHILST VISITING ALL THE REGNS AND SEEKING NATIONAL RECONCILIATION. |
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