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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 1:48pm On Sep 21, 2022
Danielnino00:
Pinnick's tenure as NFF president officially ends today!

How would y'all rate the man after 8 years in charge??

It's 4/10 from me.

We saw improvements in terms of team national team players welfare, although more could still be done.

Influence on the local game was non significant as evidenced in our level of competitiveness in the CHAN and CAF club competitions.

In terms of branding, he did very well. The deal with Nike in 2018 after several years with Adidas was a masterstroke especially when combined with the commercial success of the 2018 world cup kit. His astuteness in negotiating a 'much improved' deal in 2020 was better than any previous NFF administration had shown.

Now the most critical factor for judging success or otherwise is the national teams fortunes on the pitch. Although things picked up in the early part of his tenure he will be leaving office with the team in a similar situation that he inherited.

The decision to hold on to Gernot Rohr for as long as he did (about 6 years) when results and performances under him had turned for the worse at least 2 years earlier (see the away qualifier against Seychelles just after the 2018 world cup) was Pinnicks major undoing.

The timing of the eventual sacking was also the sort of gamble that a seasoned football administrator would not have gone ahead with. That move can now be said to have lead to where we are now. No world cup football for the first time in 16 years and getting knocked out of AFCON before the last 8 for the first time in over 40 years.

I think a fair score is 4/10. I'm sure Nike will score him lower, they expected a deeper run in the AFCON and a world cup showing as a minimum for their investment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:55pm On Sep 21, 2022
It wouldn't hurt to try to take our chances on this boy, considering he hasn't been capped by Germany at any level, neither is he gonna be considered by the Germans any time soon even though he is already 23. Our CB positions need urgent attention, so we ought to weigh every options.

Being a good friend of Moffi, I think Terem could play a big role in helping to sway him. Celtic fans say he is the true replacement of former Glasgow hitman, VVD.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 1:58pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
Sir I can only focus on regulars. So make your nominations from Euro top tier or highly rated 2nd division leagues. I want to believe Hungary, Slovenia

Thank you sir, ok
1) Anderson Esiti
2) Uche Agbo
3) Ovbokha Agboyi
4) Ibrahim's Rabiu
5) Adewale Oladoye
6) bright Osayi Samuel (originally a middie but also plays in the defences
7) Luke Ayodele Amos
Thank you sir.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:13pm On Sep 21, 2022
Which is your top pick?
Modified
Even in Hungary, Esiti is not a regular.
Regulars only please that churn stats

Agboyi clubless since 2020

Luke Amos nor played since August.

My bro only Bright Osayi is a reasonable candidate to monitor

AndSunGorilla:

Thank you sir, ok
1) Anderson Esiti
2) Uche Agbo
3) Ovbokha Agboyi
4) Ibrahim's Rabiu
5) Adewale Oladoye
6) bright Osayi Samuel (originally a middie but also plays in the defences
7) Luke Ayodele Amos
Thank you sir.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:14pm On Sep 21, 2022
Amedino99:
that number one is like the minimum required for any president. You may say he secured high profile oppositions. Ukraine, Portugal, england, Brazil but then are we supposed to be praising him for his basic duties.


Nope we are not, but can same be said of the former presidents

One thing is that the man tried, but to give him a rating, as am seeing here is like, he just sit down and do nothing during his time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 2:17pm On Sep 21, 2022
Danielnino00:
Pinnick's tenure as NFF president officially ends today!

How would y'all rate the man after 8 years in charge??

Easy 9/10, we have played almost all the top 20 teams in the world in the world in friendlies, our preparation for the world cup and Afcon for the men and women were immaculate, he made the SE attractive to FB players, his achilles heel was appointment of coaches but despite that he is the best NFF president we have ever had

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:20pm On Sep 21, 2022
Samueltemi337:
Haaland is really good
But that doesn't change the fact
that he is a very lucky player too


Watch most of his goals and
you will know what I mean by LUCK


Just what I feel

Lucky at molde
Lucky at Dortmund
Lucky at mancity

Lucky with those champions league goals at a very young age

Interesting

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:25pm On Sep 21, 2022
fabyom:
I still maintain my stance. I prefer Gabby J to him. Arsenal is topping with Gabby J! I am not wrong!
There is a guy in Celtic on loan from Lorient, Moritz Jenz. He has a Nigerian grandfather. He is a very good defender. Although he prefers Germany, I do not think he would turn our invite down cos he is 23 now. Do you know more about him?
Because Arsenal is topping with Gabriel
Jesus means what
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:26pm On Sep 21, 2022
cc12:
LMC is still under the NFF. Shehu Dikko who is NFF vice president is the head of LMC, the LMC is answerable to the NFF.



Yes they are answerable to the NFF, And That's a big IF a petition was brought before the NFF,

remind me pls was anyone brought
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:26pm On Sep 21, 2022
Emmy450:
u preferring Gabby to halland is ur personal choice, and doesn't necessarily mean he's better.most managers would outrightly pick halland over Gabriel Jesus without thinking twice..
PS: he's not lucky, he's clinical & precise

All managers will pick Haaland over Gabriel Jesus

Na pep no Dey like use number 9 ,he reach Haaland man begin use number 9 grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:36pm On Sep 21, 2022
Moritz Jenz
ChrisKels:
It wouldn't hurt to try to take our chances on this boy, considering he hasn't been capped by Germany at any level, neither is he gonna be considered by the Germans any time soon even though he is already 23. Our CB positions need urgent attention, so we ought to weigh every options.

Being a good friend of Moffi, I think Terem could play a big role in helping to sway him. Celtic fans say he is the true replacement of former Glasgow hitman, VVD.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:38pm On Sep 21, 2022
ChrisKels:
It wouldn't hurt to try to take our chances on this boy, considering he hasn't been capped by Germany at any level, neither is he gonna be considered by the Germans any time soon even though he is already 23. Our CB positions need urgent attention, so we ought to weigh every options.

Being a good friend of Moffi, I think Terem could play a big role in helping to sway him. Celtic fans say he is the true replacement of former Glasgow hitman, VVD.
it won’t be bad having him in the mix

I really want us to hv few new faces in our centre back positions. The trio that deserves to be in that team based on form current are just bassey, ajayi and akpoguma

If Moritz and any of adarabioyo or uduokhai can switch to us it affords more options in that position for the head coach as well as quality competition. It won’t be bad having players doing it in bigger clubs and leagues in that position which will yield quality

Hv not seen the lad play before but had a glimpse of his playing style on YouTube and he isn’t bad at all. He can play with both legs, good aerially, decent tackler and passer of the ball. He is just 23 so the chances to improve is there

Imagine having centre back options as listed below

Ajayi- Westbrom
Basey- Ajax
Akpoguma- hoffenheim
Adarabioyo- Fulham
Torunarigha- gent
And maybe moritz/uduokhai- Celtic/Augsburg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:42pm On Sep 21, 2022
4.5 organization and kitting of the national teams improved under him.

Unfortunately for him football is all about success so based on that his tenure was very poor. Our national teams from age grade to senior level didn't win much. Even the ever reliable Falcons experienced a deep. Most of the coaches he appointed let him down.

League football is still so so.

Financially the NFF attracted a lot of sponsorship under Pinnick, but my hand on my heart I can't say if everything was judiciously used.

Danielnino00:
Pinnick's tenure as NFF president officially ends today!

How would y'all rate the man after 8 years in charge??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:45pm On Sep 21, 2022
Danielnino00:



I'll give him a 4/10..

But since you want the reasons why I'll disagree with your rating of him, here it is:

1. Appointment of coaches to our national team..

2. Neglect of our grassroot football. Aside the 2015 u-17 world cup we won, our cadet teams at all level performed poorly. We didn't qualify for the u-17 and u-20 world cup in 2017..

3. Selling off super eagles games to the highest bidding governors for political gains.. Uyo was doing well as our home ground pending when Abuja would be renovated, but Pinnick started moving the team around the country to play in potato farms .. Benin, Port Harcourt, Asaba, Kaduna anf Lago stadium pitches are good examples

4. Under him we failed to qualify for the AFCON twice and the world cup

5. Plenty of endorsement deals here and there but still owing players and coaches allowance and bonus

6. I'd absolve him of blame for the current state our league is, and indeed how poorly it has been run the past few years, but the LMC is still under his administration... Nothing like independent body...




OK thanks, Now let's look at your point raised,

1 is off as I stated it above,

2, He started it, It's was the outbreak of covid, not to mention his prolong fight with Giwa,
Then you have Dalung, Along the line, how do you expect him to sustain the tempo, with a minister of sport who should had championed such things, against him

3, You can't blame him for going that part, Dalung refusing to release funds, and preparation needed to be made, you honestly can't


4. Afcon twice, I don't get it ooo, As for the worldcup, you me and everyone of us is responsible for us not qualifying, not Pinnick, Of we had not pulled his hand to sack Rohr, we won't be saying this


5. Those deals are in naira, and the players received their bodies in dollars, you do the maths

Will come back to 3,5 and 6 later
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:54pm On Sep 21, 2022
ChrisKels:
It wouldn't hurt to try to take our chances on this boy, considering he hasn't been capped by Germany at any level, neither is he gonna be considered by the Germans any time soon even though he is already 23. Our CB positions need urgent attention, so we ought to weigh every options.

Being a good friend of Moffi, I think Terem could play a big role in helping to sway him. Celtic fans say he is the true replacement of former Glasgow hitman, VVD.
I will prefer to hv this guy in the current eagles set up than blackpool’s 27 year old ekpitite
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:56pm On Sep 21, 2022
27 year old Dominic Iorfa in League 1. If he had chosen Nigeria back then it would have helped his career. We were in need of RBs at the time and he was a super regular in the Championship.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:58pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
27 year old Dominic Iorfa in League 1. If he had chosen Nigeria back then it would have helped his career. We were in need of RBs at the time and he was a super regular in the Championship.
I swear, the guy and his father goofed big time. A golden opportunity that would hv helped the young man’s career but he missed that because say em papa Dey carry akpo for nff cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 2:58pm On Sep 21, 2022
We still need a better RB than Aina
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:59pm On Sep 21, 2022
Say you prefer Jenz, because we can have them both. Ekpiteta won’t need a switch though.

Jenz seems he would be satisfied with a couple international caps with Germany. Go figure what that means.

charlesemeka85:
I will prefer to hv this guy in the current eagles set up than blackpool’s 27 year old ekpitite
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:01pm On Sep 21, 2022
We do not have it at the moment. I will throw in makeshift Osayi for more competition.
Subzero047:
We still need a better RB than Aina
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:03pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
Say you prefer Jenz, because we can have them both. Ekpiteta won’t need a switch though.

Jenz seems he would be satisfied with a couple international caps with Germany. Go figure what that means.

yes I know but my reason of preferring Jenz is because he is younger and the plan should be building towards having a strong team for the 2024 afcon and 2026 World Cup

In the next 4 years the blackpool player will be 31 and may hv dropped to league 1 or 2 while Jenz will be just 27

Having few caps in the future with Germany won’t be bad but it doesn’t stop the football house and coach to hv a talk with him. Same way lookman,aina and others hoped to hv few caps for England cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:05pm On Sep 21, 2022
National team is not club as regards selling players. You pick your best at every moment. Competition makes every player push to be better while playing for the country at every given time. Nobody knows what will happen in 4 years.
charlesemeka85:
yes I know but my reason of preferring Jenz is because he is younger and the plan should be building towards having a strong team for the 2024 afcon and 2026 World Cup

In the next 4 the blackpool player will be 31 and may hv dropped to league 1 or 2 while Jenz will be just 27

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:09pm On Sep 21, 2022
Owambe NFF chairman grin
chrisooblog:
4.5 organization and kitting of the national teams improved under him.

Unfortunately for him football is all about success so based on that his tenure was very poor. Our national teams from age grade to senior level didn't win much. Even the ever reliable Falcons experienced a deep. Most of the coaches he appointed let him down.

League football is still so so.

Financially the NFF attracted a lot of sponsorship under Pinnick, but my hand on my heart I can't say if everything was judiciously used.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:09pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
National team is not club as regards selling players. You pick your best at every moment. Competition makes every player push to be better while playing for the country at every given time. Nobody knows what will happen in 4 years.
my idea is for the future and as it stands the super eagles don’t hv any competition to play in until the next 2 years

So it will be ideal to rebuild with younger players for future purposes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
Say you prefer Jenz, because we can have them both. Ekpiteta won’t need a switch though.

Jenz seems he would be satisfied with a couple international caps with Germany. Go figure what that means.

so because he harbors the ambition to play for Germany means he shouldn’t be bothered about playing for us?

Balogun if offered a chance to play for the German national team wouldn’t hv blinked an eye in taking the offer. Same goes to lookman,aina,ekong,bassey etc

If the coach sees him as one to rebuild with I see nothing wrong in reaching out to him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
Competition among players is essential when rebuilding na
charlesemeka85:
my idea is for the future and as it stands the super eagles don’t hv any competition to play in until the next 2 years

So it will be ideal to rebuild with younger players for future purposes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:13pm On Sep 21, 2022
I’m only saying Ekpiteta will be instant. The Celtic guy will need some convincing. We can go both routes
charlesemeka85:
so because he harbors the ambition to play for Germany means he shouldn’t be bothered about playing for us?

Balogun if offered a chance to play for the German national team wouldn’t hv blinked an eye on taking the offer. Same goes to lookman,aina,ekong,bassey etc

If the coach sees him as one to rebuild with I see nothing wrong in reaching out to him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:17pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
Competition among players is essential when rebuilding na
yes, moreover I never told you that the likes of ekong,omeruo and balogun should be discarded. For now they should still remain while the younger ones learn from them inorder to prepare for future engagements

I am yet to see Jenz plays just few YouTube clips and he seem decent and looks like one with huge potentials but not the finished product yet

Also I hv seen ekpiteta play for blackpool this season and will say he is just decent and not better than ajayi,omeruo,balogun and even ekong. Moreover he is already 27

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:22pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
I’m only saying Ekpiteta will be instant. The Celtic guy will need some convincing. We can go both routes
and the nff shouldnt work hard in convincing him to play for us if he is really what jpes wants? At 23 he is yet to be capped by the Germans, a good pal of lorient’s hit man moffi, and been offered the opportunity to have a good international platform to showcase his talent with one of Africa’s most successful teams, so what made you think he will turn us down?

Even if he turns us down I see nothing wrong in reaching out to him again and who knows he may hv a change of heart much later and switch to us

Lookman is a good example
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:27pm On Sep 21, 2022
Joebie:
We do not have it at the moment. I will throw in makeshift Osayi for more competition.
osayi wey dey chop bench for fenebache?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:39pm On Sep 21, 2022
cc12:
I would rate him 2/10,his administration didn't do anything tangible to improve grassroots football and the NPFL.

I hope you know the NPFL isn’t within his scope sha. Grassroots can be better but he didn’t do badly but I’ll fault him for the failures of our youth teams in 2019.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 3:41pm On Sep 21, 2022
Amedino99:
that number one is like the minimum required for any president. You may say he secured high profile oppositions. Ukraine, Portugal, england, Brazil but then are we supposed to be praising him for his basic duties.
lmao, if you lived through the late 90s to the 2000s you’ll understand where he’s coming from

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