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Sixfiguresmart:
According to Islamic records, what was the attitude of Muslims regarding homosexuality before the 19th century?

Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: “The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter Title: “Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan”:

“I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the
prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..”

He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein

He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis

Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9

translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”

Related by Al-Tabarani and it’s authentication is fully validated by Islamic scholars.

Hussein and Hassan is not the same name, so clearly this is of two accounts and he kissed more than one penis.

Muhammad would also invite young boys to see him wash his private parts:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Whenever Allah’s Apostle went to answer the call of nature, I along with another boy used to accompany him with a tumbler full of water. (Hisham commented, “So that he might wash his private parts with it.”) (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 4, Number 152; see also Numbers 153-154)

Unless you have a week ban, I am still expecting your response. You say Muslims run away from debate, I have been literally begging you for a debate for the past three days. Let's even subject the bible and Quran to scrutiny. I am a lawyer and would like us to put the Bible (and Christianity) in the witness box. Carefully cross-examine both and see how it stands to logic, commonsense and reason.

To even give you heads-up, I propose that we discuss:
- doctrinal issues
- societal/moral issues
- historiography of the bible (particularly the 4 canonical texts). To make the conversation more tempting and juicy, we could move on to the aprocrypha books and even the old testament.
- violence in both books. Again to tell you I am a generous man and I don't want to get you off-guard, I will want to discuss violence following Constantine's adoption of your religion (excluding the time of Julian the Apostate), the crusades in Poland and Nordic countries down to the early modern era (i.e., reconquista in Spain and Italy). Or we could even split it to violence in the texts themselves and violence in the course of history, whichever rocks your boat.

These are my proposals, You could add yours as well to tell you how I am so looking forward to this. So when our scope of engagement is well defined and the rules very clear, we can start the debate.

Don't b1tch away by telling me you do not want to debate with Muslims. Even the smartest people on earth debate with others. So if you are so confident of your religion, and yhwh and the bible, and you think we Muslims do not have sense for believing in our perfect faith, why don't you engage. Let's test the strength of both faiths using well defined matrices such as logic, relevance, truth etc!

Sleekfingers:

RIP English

Mumu man...

Death to all IPOBians pigs & their sympathizers.
Death to all Bandits & their sympathizers.
Death to all Terrorist & their sympathizers.

Long live Nigeria.

I run a legal business and I have less time for insanity, and more so, non for minions. You are not psychologically sound enough to engage in a debate with me. Your law degree is comparable to a bean sack. How did you know that I was banned if you were not related to the moderators. Engaging a muslim to a debate here is like running into a pride of Lion and hoping to fight a single Lion. You and your moderators ban me every 30 seconds for what I don't really know. They ban me even for posts that I made a month ago. You guys ban me for stating an obvious fact that mohammed slepptt with a minorrrr.

How can I debate with the odds all against me and my hands are tied. None of you get banned even when you run out of your own rails.

Surah 18:27 Recite what has been revealed to you from the Book of your Lord. None can change His Words, nor can you find any refuge besides Him.

Muslims were not asked to READ the quran. It is not for intelligent people. It has to be recited like nursery rhymes. Many of you go about imagining that it is poetic when you do not understand the language. How senile is that.

Constantine did not adopt my religion. He died a Hellenist. All those fallacious stories are left for you and your enclave to relish on. All violence in the name of Religion began with Mohammed. No other nation in history fought to defend a religion. So many wars were fought yes, but for power, fortune, and fame. Mohammed was the first to fight in the name of establishing a religion and killing innocent souls for non-repentance.

A shame that you had to mention 'la Reconquista', how dare you? All those wars fought by Christians were to expel the barbarian caliphates out of Europe. Every single war fought in Europe has a connection to Islam. Your bad influence, racism, classism, evil and madness violence that you took to Europe had a rebound. You spread violence around the world. Wherever you go, violence. Look at what you are doing to Europe today. Tell me where Islam is known for peace in this world?

You are defending a religion that even the Arabs who brought it to you are burning in the fire. What do we have to cross-examine. I want you to first cross-examine the man that you call a prophet. Would you leave your 8 year old daughter with him if you were admitted in the hospital?

Is allah crippled or not? Can he walk by himself or does he need to be carried?

LegalWolf:
Unless you have a week ban, I am still expecting your response. You say Muslims run away from debate, I have been literally begging you for a debate for the past three days. Let's even subject the bible and Quran to scrutiny. I am a lawyer and would like us to put the Bible (and Christianity) in the witness box. Carefully cross-examine both and see how it stands to logic, commonsense and reason.

To even give you heads-up, I propose that we discuss:
- doctrinal issues
- societal/moral issues
- historiography of the bible (particularly the 4 canonical texts). To make the conversation more tempting and juicy, we could move on to the aprocrypha books and even the old testament.
- violence in both books. Again to tell you I am a generous man and I don't want to get you off-guard, I will want to discuss violence following Constantine's adoption of your religion (excluding the time of Julian the Apostate), the crusades in Poland and Nordic countries down to the early modern era (i.e., reconquista in Spain and Italy). Or we could even split it to violence in the texts themselves and violence in the course of history, whichever rocks your boat.

These are my proposals, You could add yours as well to tell you how I am so looking forward to this. So when our scope of engagement is well defined and the rules very clear, we can start the debate.

Don't b1tch away by telling me you do not want to debate with Muslims. Even the smartest people on earth debate with others. So if you are so confident of your religion, and yhwh and the bible, and you think we Muslims do not have sense for believing in our perfect faith, why don't you engage. Let's test the strength of both faiths using well defined matrices such as logic, relevance, truth etc!

You are screaming debate and fuming like someone who is being strangled. Logically, I am throwing napalm and nukes here. I am not here bragging over anything. I am actively servicing Islam. Look at my track record. If you got the mojo, drop it. If you ever wanted a challenge go ahead with it. You are insulting and daring only. No brain in that skull. I was able to read your quran by myself to figure out that you were lied to. In your very noble quran, in surah 21:91 And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her vagina, so We blew into her our spirit, making her and her son a sign for the worlds.

The above is my translation. Your scribes deceived you by injecting GABRIEL into the quran in their own translation. So, the quran that you read in Arabic is different from yours in English. That is a collateral deceit. I am glad that you inferred that you are a lawyer. So, how big is this case in court? Isn't this perjury? That is subverting the power of the jury by lying under oath. It is a huge crime and no one will ever escape jail time for this. One can spend up to 5 years.

So, why ain't you calling for jail time on the clerics who injected words that are outre in your NOBLE and HOLY quran? That is desecrating the supposedly holy book. Moreover, it shows that you have more reverence to your scribes than the quran. Why didn't you flare up as a lawyer who understands the meaning of perjury rather than allow someone lie against allah?

And, muslims go on spewing dot for for, letter for letter, word for word gibberish. What scripture did I misinterpret? I have not interpreted anything here. You said that the quran was revealed to mohammed. And, what did he do? interpret it to our understanding. If you spotted one, how about the others that I didn't?

In fact the word, revelation in Arabic is a wrong word for quran. Quran means scriptures. In the original semitic words, these mean vision. Not revelation. For example, Nebuchadnezzar had the vision that Daniel reveal. So, to put it right in that case, Nebuchadnezzar had the quran, (put in his heart) that Daniel gave the REVALATION for.

So, if Mohammed said that it was revealed to him by a man who looked like EVERY OTHER MAN, Jubril (can't you see how condescending mohammed was of Jubril? Relegating him to an ordinary man and also calling his HIS ASSITANT very disrespecful), How was it quran to Mohammed? Why was Jubril needed? Why was it called a book?

LegalWolf:
Lol. You’re such a confused soul. In one breadth, you said you cant argue with a Muslim. In another breadth, you’ve gone ahead to (mis) quote and misinterpret scripture out of context to suite your narrow perspective. If yhwh ur god had not been an imbecilic mor0n and had given you a functional brain, you will be able to debate.


If you’re sure of what you’re saying, why don’t u let us debated topic by topic so we can analyse everything. Not that expect you to change ur bigoted mind but to tell you that your infantile storybook called bible is nothing but hogwash. And yhwh is nothing but a powerless, racist and mor0nic god?

I challenge you to accept this debate. One topic by topic and don’t spam my mention with so many quotes that I won’t even know which to start from

Sixfiguresmart:
I run a legal business and I have less time for insanity, and more so, non for minions. You are not psychologically sound enough to engage in a debate with me. Your law degree is comparable to a bean sack. How did you know that I was banned if you were not related to the moderators. Engaging a muslim to a debate here is like running into a pride of Lion and hoping to fight a single Lion. You and your moderators ban me every 30 seconds for what I don't really know. They ban me even for posts that I made a month ago. You guys ban me for stating an obvious fact that mohammed slepptt with a minorrrr.

How can I debate with the odds all against me and my hands are tied. None of you get banned even when you run out of your own rails.

Surah 18:27 Recite what has been revealed to you from the Book of your Lord. None can change His Words, nor can you find any refuge besides Him.

Muslims were not asked to READ the quran. It is not for intelligent people. It has to be recited like nursery rhymes. Many of you go about imagining that it is poetic when you do not understand the language. How senile is that.

Constantine did not adopt my religion. He died a Hellenist. All those fallacious stories are left for you and your enclave to relish on. All violence in the name of Religion began with Mohammed. No other nation in history fought to defend a religion. So many wars were fought yes, but for power, fortune, and fame. Mohammed was the first to fight in the name of establishing a religion and killing innocent souls for non-repentance.

A shame that you had to mention 'la Reconquista', how dare you? All those wars fought by Christians were to expel the barbarian caliphates out of Europe. Every single war fought in Europe has a connection to Islam. Your bad influence, racism, classism, evil and madness violence that you took to Europe had a rebound. You spread violence around the world. Wherever you go, violence. Look at what you are doing to Europe today. Tell me where Islam is known for peace in this world?

You are defending a religion that even the Arabs who brought it to you are burning in the fire. What do we have to cross-examine. I want you to first cross-examine the man that you call a prophet. Would you leave your 8 year old daughter with him if you were admitted in the hospital?

Is allah crippled or not? Can he walk by himself or does he need to be carried?

This is getting interesting and taking a turn I did not anticipate. But still, an interesting at that. I have gotten a bit hold of certain arguments of yours and I will really love to set the records straight. I have read all your comments and I will start by answering this:

- first off, I do not know you were banned. I assumed because I have been quoting you and I was not getting a response. So check my statement again, I said 'unless you have a week ban.....". If you are a lawyer, then attention to details should be a key skill of yours and I wonder the kind of clients you have if you cannot even understand just plain English.

- Now you are being clever by half. You started with reconquista but cleverly ommitted the Northern crusades sanctioned BY THE POPE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS against the people who have done nothing to christians. Your story book (aka bible) was used to justify the rape, murder and forced christianization of poles, baltic and northern european people. So why don't you have anything to say about that?

- Next you talked about Constantine dying as an hellenist. This clearly shows your lack of understanding of the literature and your history. Where on earth did you get that from? Did you know that Constantine is revered as a patron saint in some Eastern Orthodox churches (particularly Greek and Armenian).?

- Are you telling me that Constantine was not a Christian? Because the implication of what you are asserting would be interesting. If you claim that he is not, then that means the whole substance of the ultra-dumb doctrine of trinity (established by the council of Nicea - a council convened by Emperor Constantine) is nothing but a sham. So you are basically admitting that it is a pagan that defines trinity and the core of Christian faith, making Christianity nothing but a pagan religion?

Sixfiguresmart:
You are screaming debate and fuming like someone who is being strangled. Logically, I am throwing napalm and nukes here. I am not here bragging over anything. I am actively servicing Islam. Look at my track record. If you got the mojo, drop it. If you ever wanted a challenge go ahead with it. You are insulting and daring only. No brain in that skull. I was able to read your quran by myself to figure out that you were lied to. In your very noble quran, in surah 21:91 And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her vagina, so We blew into her our spirit, making her and her son a sign for the worlds.

The above is my translation. Your scribes deceived you by injecting GABRIEL into the quran in their own translation. So, the quran that you read in Arabic is different from yours in English. That is a collateral deceit. I am glad that you inferred that you are a lawyer. So, how big is this case in court? Isn't this perjury? That is subverting the power of the jury by lying under oath. It is a huge crime and no one will ever escape jail time for this. One can spend up to 5 years.

So, why ain't you calling for jail time on the clerics who injected words that are outre in your NOBLE and HOLY quran? That is desecrating the supposedly holy book. Moreover, it shows that you have more reverence to your scribes than the quran. Why didn't you flare up as a lawyer who understands the meaning of perjury rather than allow someone lie against allah?

And, muslims go on spewing dot for for, letter for letter, word for word gibberish. What scripture did I misinterpret? I have not interpreted anything here. You said that the quran was revealed to mohammed. And, what did he do? interpret it to our understanding. If you spotted one, how about the others that I didn't?

In fact the word, revelation in Arabic is a wrong word for quran. Quran means scriptures. In the original semitic words, these mean vision. Not revelation. For example, Nebuchadnezzar had the vision that Daniel reveal. So, to put it right in that case, Nebuchadnezzar had the quran, (put in his heart) that Daniel gave the REVALATION for.

So, if Mohammed said that it was revealed to him by a man who looked like EVERY OTHER MAN, Jubril (can't you see how condescending mohammed was of Jubril? Relegating him to an ordinary man and also calling his HIS ASSITANT very disrespecful), How was it quran to Mohammed? Why was Jubril needed? Why was it called a book?

You, your mentors at answering-islam and other blogs do not have the intellectual capacity to debate me not to talk of you (who is so dumb that you just copy things straight from those blogs and post). If one copies and paste your quotes on google, most of the argument will pop up. Apparently, if you were to be writing an intellectual work, you would have failed for lack of originality, coherence of thoughts and plagiarism. But what do I expect from someone who worships yhwh and has a faulty reasoning faculty?

That said, you assert that quran means scriptures right (an assertion I saw a blog the same way you've copied it). Can I ask a couple of questions:

- what are the arabic characters for Quran and that for revelation?

- What about characters for reveal, revealed and revelation? (in fact, what I am testing here is the tenses and nothing more)

- you said, our mullahs inserted gabriel into the Quran, are you talking about the original text of Surahtul -Anbiyai or the translated version. Because I just read the Arabic text and I cannot find the word Jubril? Are you relying on Arabic translation? If you are (which I know you are because you are certainly dumb and do not understand either Arabic or Greek. On the latter, the language in which the bible was written, we will get there later), which of the authors are you relying on? Yusuf Ali, Pickthall just name them

- On your claim of perjury, you are certainly one of those charge and bail lawyers. No doubt about that BECAUSE how would translation of the Quran amount to perjury. How was it done on Oath? Do you even know the ingredients for the offense of perjury? And even at that, perjury under which law? Nigerian or English? Please go litter the magistrate courts and hustle for your 2k a day. At least, you will get more money than spewing nonsense here claiming to be a lawyer that you are not.

I am profoundly glad that you confirmed that you could not find Jubril in that verse. Thank you, very much for proving your clerics and amiable translators wrong. Now, AntiChristian, where did you get Jubril in that verse from? You come and get evidence for your brother.

I am a computer guru, sir. Not a lawyer. Hahaha he just called me a charge and bail lawyer. Look at all my posts here, you can see that I post direct from the quran. I actually wanted to go solely on the quran before the hadith. Your brother pushed me out of my track. I didn't know about answering islam, but I will go on it for sure.

My words are clearly constructed and synonymous to my writing style. I know about publishing, Sir. I wouldn't waste my time and money on plagiarism.

Isn't it rudimentary that of all the facts that I have posted, all you could do is attack my person rather than providing counter evidence.

So sad that even if you did that, you would simply be countering your Islamic clerics and renowned writers cos every post here is authorised and endorsed by Islam. I posted SAHIH (truth) hadith. An islamic truth and yet you call it false. Hahaha the clash of the titans. Who who holds more islamic sahih, you or your clerics?

Welcome to my classroom. Did mohammed attest that the books that the Jews and Christians had at HIS TIME were true (truth)?

LegalWolf:
You, your mentors at answering-islam and other blogs do not have the intellectual capacity to debate me not to talk of you (who is so dumb that you just copy things straight from those blogs and post). If one copies and paste your quotes on google, most of the argument will pop up. Apparently, if you were to be writing an intellectual work, you would have failed for lack of originality, coherence of thoughts and plagiarism. But what do I expect from someone who worships yhwh and has a faulty reasoning faculty?

That said, you assert that quran means scriptures right (an assertion I saw a blog the same way you've copied it). Can I ask a couple of questions:

- what are the arabic characters for Quran and that for revelation?

- What about characters for reveal, revealed and revelation? (in fact, what I am testing here is the tenses and nothing more)

- you said, our mullahs inserted gabriel into the Quran, are you talking about the original text of Surahtul -Anbiyai or the translated version. Because I just read the Arabic text and I cannot find the word Jubril? Are you relying on Arabic translation? If you are (which I know you are because you are certainly dumb and do not understand either Arabic or Greek. On the latter, the language in which the bible was written, we will get there later), which of the authors are you relying on? Yusuf Ali, Pickthall just name them

- On your claim of perjury, you are certainly one of those charge and bail lawyers. No doubt about that BECAUSE how would translation of the Quran amount to perjury. How was it done on Oath? Do you even know the ingredients for the offense of perjury? And even at that, perjury under which law? Nigerian or English? Please go litter the magistrate courts and hustle for your 2k a day. At least, you will get more money than spewing nonsense here claiming to be a lawyer that you are not.

LegalWolf:
This is getting interesting and taking a turn I did not anticipate. But still, an interesting at that. I have gotten a bit hold of certain arguments of yours and I will really love to set the records straight. I have read all your comments and I will start by answering this:

- first off, I do not know you were banned. I assumed because I have been quoting you and I was not getting a response. So check my statement again, I said 'unless you have a week ban.....". If you are a lawyer, then attention to details should be a key skill of yours and I wonder the kind of clients you have if you cannot even understand just plain English.

- Now you are being clever by half. You started with reconquista but cleverly ommitted the Northern crusades sanctioned BY THE POPE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS against the people who have done nothing to christians. Your story book (aka bible) was used to justify the rape, murder and forced christianization of poles, baltic and northern european people. So why don't you have anything to say about that?

- Next you talked about Constantine dying as an hellenist. This clearly shows your lack of understanding of the literature and your history. Where on earth did you get that from? Did you know that Constantine is revered as a patron saint in some Eastern Orthodox churches (particularly Greek and Armenian).?

- Are you telling me that Constantine was not a Christian? Because the implication of what you are asserting would be interesting. If you claim that he is not, then that means the whole substance of the ultra-dumb doctrine of trinity (established by the council of Nicea - a council convened by Emperor Constantine) is nothing but a sham. So you are basically admitting that it is a pagan that defines trinity and the core of Christian faith, making Christianity nothing but a pagan religion?

I am not a lawyer. Let's uphold that. I was very clear with the details. 300 years before Mohammed was born, Constantine lived and died. In this 300 years, Mohammed at his time asserted that the book that the Christians were having were authentic and reliable.

He also based the foundation of Islam on that very book. He said, whenever you, as a muslim is in doubt, come to us for answers.

The Romans captured, killed, and enslaved Christians. You are trying so hard to make Constantine a Christian. He was never a Christian. He was a politician and a ruler. As a matter of facy during his reign Christians were still killed for their faith.

But is this your best shot? Even the most pagan constantine didn't fight any religious wars.

Tell me the warrior in the CE or BCE who fought a battle in the name of estaishing a religion

Sixfiguresmart:
I quoted the hadith. I didn't write those words. I quote the hadith verbatim. I also quoted the verse for you to check and confirm. Tell me what is wrong with it.

You are shocked that your prophet did such a thing. It is shocking.

There is no iota of truth in the hadith? Are you for real? Wow! you are the first muslim to confirm that. Thank you so much. I will tell my friends.

No I am not shocked because you are spreading lies and hiding behind false identities. There is no such hadith and I cant argue with uncivilised and biased idiot like you.

tillaman:
Ehya but sadly they won’t let him go and his lawyers knows this
The last time they let him go he ran away and was doing lots of damage from oversea
NpF personnels died for no just reasons
They won’t let him repeat the same thing

his damages were restricted to SE so he is as useless as a condom in a convent
Heaven won’t fall if he dies in Dss custody