Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,159,259 members, 7,839,315 topics. Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 04:51 PM

Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) - Foreign Affairs (15) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) (77549 Views)

Possible Trump Arrest Today: US Police Forces On Alert / Putin Partakes In Russia's Nuclear War Drill 'GROM' In Message To NATO (Photos) / Putin Puts Russia’s Nuclear Forces On Alert, Cites Sanctions (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) ... (20) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by udemzyudex(m): 8:50pm On Oct 03, 2022
Johel:



You should rather be ashamed of yourself for typing rubbish...Clueless person forming woke...Do you know the things that goes underground and all that's leading to this particular war?..You just see things on the surface based on what the American and British media wants you to see and know...The devil you know is better than the angel you don't..

There's more to these things than we can understand...Get it clear, in this world of ours there must be war, there was wars in the past, there will be war and there will be more wars even in future as it is written in the holy bible.

So don't kill yourself forming defender of the universe.

Ukraine bite the hand that fed em, America dey put hand for wetin no concern them based on their own interest...Na Russia and him Smalley (Ukraine) get issue but Na Russia all of una dey face..

He be like when younger one do elder one strong thing,then the elder one decide to show am wetin e use pass am..

Ukraine bite the hand that did what?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by bassdow: 8:55pm On Oct 03, 2022
Awesometouch1:

America defeated Japan before the use of nuclear weapon.
The American Japanese war was fought all over Asia and Japan was beaten all the way back to their borders.
Japan was so badly beaten they could no longer fight back but refused to formerly surrender. The nuclear Bombs forced them to surrender.
What we have in Ukraine is a totally different thing.
Anyway, Russia can't go nuclear without the US knowing it.
There are measures to still ensure their defeat even if they use tactical nuclear weapons.
Russia knows better than try the nuclear option. It's not just gonna work.
Their only option is to win conventionally but that couldn't happen.

Hopefully they don't because should they make any attempt, even the USA (not even NATO) would be stupid enough to interfere.

Were you aware of the deal made to allow passage of grains from Ukraine ?
You really think such deal would have happened should there really have been a war ?

or the Nuclear reactor plant that got shelled (maybe it was Ukraine who did the shelling but accused Russia), yet Russia allowed United Nation access to fix things.

Seriously, this is still a fight, not anywhere a war yet hence why the WEST are very very careful not to come in direct conflict with Russia - they take ukraine soldiers and train them on NATO soil and have continued to pump billions of money and equipments yyet they seeing no significant result.

Russia thought in less than 2-weeks, the fight would be over because they thought it was just Russia vs Ukraine - more like in a game of WHOT, you are playing with 1 person who is being assisted by over 100 other people some who are even behind you and could see your game. how easy do you think it would be for you ?

That's what's been happening. The Annexing of 4-regions means any attack on them is attack on Russia. me I'm just waiting to see what's gonna happen because as it is, the WEST has got their hands tied somehow. Who knows, they might be able to come out of it. Time would tell.

To Russia, Ukraine is part of Russia hence they find it difficult really causing much damages. That might change as soon as it turns into a war. Something that might affect the USA.

Mind you, a Missile takes approximately 30-minutes to reach USA from Russia; not that USA doesn't have measures to wade off such an attack but how much they could handle is an issue hence their reason for wanting to have outPosts all around Russia so that should they attack Russia, Russia would have less chance of survival.

Russia covers over 3-continents. Invading them not so easy and there has been attempts made in the past which failed.

the WEST made the mistake of making countries such as Russia stronger -
You don't weaken someOne by Starving them. You weaken someOne by providing ALMost all they need, that way, they are more reliant on You than themselves.

Imagine if such level of Sanctions leveled on Russia this day was done back in 2014 or earlier, it would have affected much more then than now.

Over the years, countries such as South Korea, China, Russia, etc has come to learn never to rely on the WEST or anyone.

Imagine should Nigeria be sanctioned just 10% of what Russia got ?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by IjeBos(m): 8:55pm On Oct 03, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

No NATO troop will be deployed in Russia because it'll rapidly lead to an escalation of this conflict. The US is more than happy to have the war confined to Ukraine, they know Russia isn't bluffing about using nuclear weapons if needed. In the end, Ukraine will be the biggest loser and Zellensky the biggest fool for letting his country be used as staging ground for a battle of giants


I agree about confining it to Ukraine. In fact, the US's position has largely increased by what's happening in Ukraine. They did spend money, but as gotten huge returns in an economically and militarily weakened Russia. Had been the best Ad for joining NATO (Sweden and Finland). Has been able to test and demonstrate US weapons. A Ukraine that in the future will need to show it's gratitude. And finally a Russia that has increasing domestic problems. And 0 lost American troops. Why would they want more.

But Russia may use a Nuclear weapon. But I think at that point the US and NATO would get involved. That would no be no longer just about Russia, but about putting a marker down for other countries like China, N. Korea etc. as to what to expect if they decide to try the same thing.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Tchalz(m): 8:57pm On Oct 03, 2022
IjeBos:

What are you going on about. You seem to not understand how Mutual Assured Destruction works. The minute Russia launces a Nuclear Weapon at the US, the whole US Nuclear arsenal will be in the air as well of that of UK and France. Parts of the US and ALL of Russia will be wiped out. Again, Putin only launces that weapon if he decides he wants to destroy his country and commit Russian genocide. And given a lot of his generals have children and Family in the West and in Russia, I doubt he's not assassinated before then.
Lol, why must it be parts of the US? You think all of Russia's 1588 strategic deployments are in Russia?? The US will never confront Russia, conventionally, the US would defeat Russia, but going nuclear, the US would think twice. If they were so desperate to end Russia, they would have considered Ukraine's fast track NATO application, but they are too wise for that. The Ukrainians haven't still realised that they are being used.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by DerrickzB: 9:00pm On Oct 03, 2022
paafin:


War is war..

America couldn't defeat Japan in the WW11, so they used nuclear weapons against them..

Ukraine should feel what it means going up against a world power!

Don’t mind the mumu!! He goes about trying to display absurdity
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by OceanRed(m): 9:03pm On Oct 03, 2022
Themandator:



Russia has help from the places she made friends ..Iran, Syria , chenchen and other nations bold enough to come forward ...but for Iranian hardware , Russia would have taken more heats than the present


As for economic challenge, it is good for Europe to diverse ...Herman seized three refineries from Russia control in Germany buying crude from across the word ...some country has reported enough gas for the winter without buying from Russia


It is good for them ...good for Isreal an others
iran ,syria chenchen supporting Russia with what? safe for iran what has rag tag syria thats purchases weapon offering? Im talking of multi billion dollars worth of modern warfare gadgets, support and well trained personnel from nato, eu and the USA.....almost all powerful countries in the west are fighting Russia currently and you talk of diverse? it will take years for any diversity to take effect,winter is coming, macron is now wearing turtle neck to conserve heat !
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Oninure(m): 9:04pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in the world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

That's because Russia is indirectly fighting USA, Europe and Autralia physically and tactically....and she isn't even relenting nor is she a coward like some countries. More so Russia isn't ready to give it all like the monster USA use to with smaller countries.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by UCHIHAmask: 9:07pm On Oct 03, 2022
Philipmaxwell:


Japan, world power? This is laughable. Just so you know, like it has been said, the US has set the precedence for the use of nuclear weapons. Russia has more nuclear armaments than the whole of NATO combined. If they so decide to use it in Ukraine, adequate missiles will already be directed at other European states and the US.

That's what mutually assured destruction is. It simply means if you try to destroy me, you will succeed, but my automated plans will destroy you too. Both US and Russia know this. No one of them will ever nuke the other. At best they will nuke their non-nuclear allies. So, if Russia nukes Ukraine today, Europe will collect monetary compensation from Russia and everybody go rest.
You are very reasonable!
One sure thing is that the US and RUSSIA or any other nuclear states would never directly nuke each other, besides, no matter what! Not even for small NATO members would the US directly engage Russia in a nuclear warfare vis-a-vis.
Forget the pacts, there are no ETERNAL ENEMIES just ETERNAL INTEREST..
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Awesometouch1: 9:08pm On Oct 03, 2022
bassdow:


Hopefully they don't because should they make any attempt, even the USA (not even NATO) would be stupid enough to interfere.

Were you aware of the deal made to allow passage of grains from Ukraine ?
You really think such deal would have happened should there really have been a war ?

or the Nuclear reactor plant that got shelled (maybe it was Ukraine who did the shelling but accused Russia), yet Russia allowed United Nation access to fix things.

Seriously, this is still a fight, not anywhere a war yet hence why the WEST are very very careful not to come in direct conflict with Russia - they take ukraine soldiers and train them on NATO soil and have continued to pump billions of money and equipments yyet they seeing no significant result.

Russia thought in less than 2-weeks, the fight would be over because they thought it was just Russia vs Ukraine - more like in a game of WHOT, you are playing with 1 person who is being assisted by over 100 other people some who are even behind you and could see your game. how easy do you think it would be for you ?

That's what's been happening. The Annexing of 4-regions means any attack on them is attack on Russia. me I'm just waiting to see what's gonna happen because as it is, the WEST has got their hands tied somehow. Who knows, they might be able to come out of it. Time would tell.

To Russia, Ukraine is part of Russia hence they find it difficult really causing much damages. That might change as soon as it turns into a war. Something that might affect the USA.

Mind you, a Missile takes approximately 30-minutes to reach USA from Russia; not that USA doesn't have measures to wade off such an attack but how much they could handle is an issue hence their reason for wanting to have outPosts all around Russia so that should they attack Russia, Russia would have less chance of survival.

Russia covers over 3-continents. Invading them not so easy and there has been attempts made in the past which failed.

the WEST made the mistake of making countries such as Russia stronger -

Imagine if such level of Sanctions leveled on Russia this day was done back in 2014 or earlier, it would have affected much more then than now.

Over the years, countries such as South Korea, China, Russia, etc has come to learn never to rely on the WEST or anyone.

Imagine should Nigeria be sanctioned just 10% of what Russia got ?
I don't understand why you don't think it's a war that's ongoing.
It really is and tens of thousands have died.
Unlike what we think, use of nuclear weapons by Russia could actually get it in direct confrontation with NATO as the world turns its back on it.
I got info US promised to destroy the Russian Navy black sea fleet and have warned Russia of very disastrous consequences should they go nuclear.
Even China is getting weary of Russia.

Russia may lose faster if they use nuclear weapons. If they don't, they may lose slowly as they are already doing.

I made a post on it already from another source. https://www.nairaland.com/7365008/should-worried-russias-nuclear-threat

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Princedapace(m): 9:09pm On Oct 03, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

This is why it amuses me when I see nairalanders foolishly spewing crap about this conflict. For Russia to fight for as long as they already have means they're incredibly powerful. The US and all the NATO countries are providing aid to Ukraine but they're still having their asses handed to them by the Russians

Plus Russia is in heavy sactions imposed by the US. Many people here are not that smart bro. So, I understand them. Is it not same Nigerians who vote in same set of people into power and can be decieved by ponzi scheme at will? Omo, no dey over rate many people here o. A lot dont have logical thinking at all.

US is afraid of two major countries and their rising powers. One is Russia and the other is China. After US played major role to the collapse of Sovient Union, US didnt know that Russia could rise and become powerful again after the cold war. What pained US the most was Russia's rising influence in Europe. Infact, the Nord steam2 was an idea US hated. To US, that would make Russia even more poweful both economically and military wise. US didnt wish for that deal to come to pass. So, US did everything possible to ensure that it came under blackmail. The US hates a world of multiple leaders and super powers. US simply love the free economic ride she is enjoying all thanks to petro dollar economy.

US in their parliament sit down to discuss rising China influence and Russia. Countries that normally didnt send US but US will not just allow these countries to breathe. US has military bases all over the world, provoking their rivals, yet no one is talking. Immediately China signed a mere military path with Solomon Island, US started barking. Why is US like this? Why cant they just allow the world to float and allow real super powers to be multiple? Must the entire world bow to USA?

This war was intentionally started by the US since 2014 when they carried out coup to remove a pro Russian leader in Ukraine. There was an agreement that US and her allies dont play their politics east word, but US broke that deal when they started interfering inthe Ukrainean politics and carried out a coup. Since then, there has been serious killings of pro Russians by Ukrainean forces backed by the US. Russia tried everything possible to make peace a deal, but under Trump, it went down a bit. As this new administration came in, they engineered the efforts further which made matter worse. Then came the worse of it all, they started building alliance with Ukraine which is near Russian border.
This is why Pope said the West provoked Russia. Only a bias human will blame Russia for this becus what Russia did, US would have done worse if Russia had gone to Mexico to build military alliance and stationed their weapons near US border.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Johel(m): 9:09pm On Oct 03, 2022
udemzyudex:


Ukraine bite the hand that did what?


THAT FED EM!! angry
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Princedapace(m): 9:11pm On Oct 03, 2022
bassdow:


How I wish most people are this informed

Well anyOne who could believe in religion, could believe in anything
Im glad I can see few people here who can reason well. Left for majority of Nigerians, they are too sentimental and that is why ponzi scheme sell very well and religion and politics mess Nigerians up.

Forget et, majority dont have sense here

1 Like

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by djon78(m): 9:13pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in the world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.


Actually Russia is not fighting Ukraine but 12 powerful countries in the West

Ukraine is just a smoke screen

Putin may use nuclear weapons on Ukraine he claimed on Friday that only the US have used nuclear weapons before, so if he uses it, not the first.

Only God will save our world
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by djon78(m): 9:15pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
lol, don't deflect, I thought it was going to be a blitzkrieg military operation within few days in favour of Russia, but the war is still raging seven months after with Ukraine doing the counteroffensive now

Russia isn't a world power, it is just a regional power and it is gradually losing that status.

I'm also surprised here, some nigerians that often complain about western imperialism and colonialism are now supporting this madman and his invasion

And for those of you saying Russia is fighting against US and NATO, don't forget how you guys often brag and hype Russia.

I'm sure some of you don't know the meaning of superpower.


Russia is fighting 12 powerful countries.

Ukraine is just a smoke screen
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Harpyeagle(m): 9:15pm On Oct 03, 2022
Nukilia:

But some people did it and they are considered the moral police of the world
Lol. They did it in attempt to stop an imminent invasion (that infact had already started) and after warning japan severally and japan refused to listen. This man is doing it to claim ukraine because of a perceived POSSIBLE FUTURE threat.

1 Like

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by maasoap(m): 9:15pm On Oct 03, 2022
Goodnigga:
Hmm, Russia has 6000 nukesz USA alone has 5700. Apart from NATO. Do you think Russia can win?

No, it not about winning. It is about what will be left.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by maasoap(m): 9:16pm On Oct 03, 2022
Okealaaye:


The USA didn't use Nuclear weapons; they send atomic weapons during August 1945! The intransigence of Japan gave them the opportunity to TEST the atomic weapons! They tested it on Hiroshima and Nagasaki only! Learn new knowledge, bros.

Tested? Like it wasn't tested before it was deployed. Stop confusing yourself. When the first one dropped at Hiroshima didn't humble Japan, they had to drop the second one at Nagasaki. Was that a test too?
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Samade7: 9:18pm On Oct 03, 2022
ken6488:

Shut up you mean NATO

Ukraine was defeated since march

What Russia is fighting now is NATO





Ode tell ur stupid fool-tin to call his allies to support him also.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by salem1996: 9:19pm On Oct 03, 2022
Toktee:
Russia that's about to be kicked out of Kharson after a massive defeat in Lyman.. You should say Ukrain should temper justice.



Where is GODSON

It was people like you that pushed many Ukraines to their graves.

Hailing someone to his death by calling him a hero.

When Ukraine started countering Russia, everyone seems happy and encouraging the war, when russia stroked last week, Zelensky called them A TERRORIST STATE.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Samade7: 9:22pm On Oct 03, 2022
Even stupid fool-tin can not defeat ordinary amotekun in physical war.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by NEUDUDE: 9:22pm On Oct 03, 2022
hisexcellency34:
Even Nigeria will defeat Russia if they try any nonsense

What did you smoke grin
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Emmyxclusive: 9:29pm On Oct 03, 2022
Goddson:


Are you arguing based on facts or propaganda?
Yes Russia used the hypersonic weapon one time to strike the eastern part of Ukraine to warn U.S and it’s minions that they ain’t bluffing cos they have the most sophisticated and advanced weapon which is undetectable by any radar in the world. That right there made the USA and it’s minions shiver.

Bro forget western propaganda, Russia and China has the most advanced tech for warfare at this age.
right now i think china is ahead of russia in terms of hypersonic weapon,have u ever seen china boasting about it? why is putin always coming out to say his weapons are way ahead of that of the west? Do u know the US admitted that china is way ahead in terms of hypersonic weapon? putin is just making noise and the west are no longer afraid of him.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by ken6488(m): 9:36pm On Oct 03, 2022
Samade7:






Ode tell ur stupid fool-tin to call his allies to support him also.
it is ironical that 42 countries has to combine to face only you show how powerful he is
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by DOM7: 9:37pm On Oct 03, 2022
A sinking man trying to be relevant!
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Originalsly: 9:42pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:


So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in the world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.


When US invaded Iraq .... did you reason the same? ... did you call for check on the US?... before they follow the footsteps of Hitler? When they followed up by invading Libya ... did you call for a check on the US? ... didn’t you know it was flowing in the steps of Hitler? .... what about Afghanistan? ... didn't they take over these countries unchecked?
The present situation... US keeps sending more and more powerful and sophisticated weapons to Ukraine and Russia is stepping up to match.. so who is escalating the war? ... seems like you really believe it's the Ukraine military Russia is up against. Propaganda is always effective with those who open mouth and swallow without chewing. I asked questions and would love to see your direct response.... I really want to see something.

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Freebills12: 9:43pm On Oct 03, 2022
[color=#000099][/color]
Princedapace:


Okay, Russia went for peace keeping, sir. Just the way America has right to strike her percieved threats anywhere in the world, that is how Russia has same right.

Read this snipet from a reliable source baba:

"The U.S. military, with British support, begins a bombing campaign against Taliban forces, officially launching Operation Enduring Freedom. Australia, Canada, France, and Germany pledge future support. The war’s early phase [PDF] mainly involves U.S. air strikes on al-Qaeda and Taliban forces that are assisted by a partnership of about one thousand U.S. special forces, the Northern Alliance, and ethnic Pashtun anti-Taliban forces."

source: https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-war-afghanistan

USA went invaded a soverign country with support from her allies. Is that okay now? Infact, USA must go to war with allies grin

Talibans are they not terrorist group? That you are a Muslim should not be cloud your judgement...
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by etrange: 9:48pm On Oct 03, 2022
ZombieSlayer1:

Herd mentality is actually what you and many other nairalanders suffer from. You refused to do your own research but rather choose to feed on what MSM shoves down your throat. Do you think Putin woke up one day and decided to invade his neighbor? Common sense didn't tell you there must be a reason for it?
You people need to learn to read. NATO is using Ukraine to get at Russia and the foolish Zellensky is allowing his country be used as the war zone. Right now, Russia has already taken the parts of Ukraine they want to take and nothing will happen.
Think about it; Russia is fighting alone against Ukraine + All of the NATO countries, no other country is powerful enough to do this. Even the US you guys are hailing is afraid of Russia, if it were any other smaller country I'm sure you know the US would've invaded

Of course, America. That's the only response you supporters of aggression have. Your research told you America wants to attack Russia through Ukraine and Putin making those cities part of Russia is a such a great mitigation, right? You realise this isn't the first time Putin is annexing a Ukrainian city or ? You realise he has been doing this even before the agitation to add Ukraine to NATO? Your research justified Putin killing people but didn't tell you why Ukraine wanted to join NATO? According to you, if Putin says they shouldn't join, then they shouldn't regardless of what they're going through in the hands of Russia, right?

When it started, you guys said Putin never wanted to invade Ukraine and that Western media were just creating unnecessary fear. When it eventually happened, Putin told you guys his men were in Ukraine for a peacekeeping mission. Then later, he said they were there make the oppressed independent regions, and now he wants the make those cities Russian cities. Do you need CNN or Aljazeera to tell you this has always been the plan? If they're made Russia cities, how does that solve the issue of NATO? And no, what you described is not "herd mentality". It is called the "bandwagon" mindset. Know the difference.

Dude, the only reason Russia didn't want Ukraine in NATO was because he knew he wouldn't be able to take these cities so easily if the country was a member. And the only reason why he rushed in even when Ukraine had not yet been accepted by NATO was to do it before any progress could be made in that regards. Almost all Russian neighbours are already NATO members, so could do without Ukraine. If at this point, you still believe this was all about NATO, then it's obvious why you guys elect dumb politicians in that country.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by LogicnReason: 9:51pm On Oct 03, 2022
Let me guess, your assertions are based on what you heard from some elderly ones around you (I am guessing OK). But you are wrong. Just apply common sense and you will get the real gist.

Now ask yourself, how can you change to a tactics that make you lose what you already took from the Ukrainians? Is that not a stupid tactics?

And what do you mean the West have been weakened lol, is the West fighting with Russia? Its Russia who have been weakened, in fact all they have now are their nukes. If you mean no more cheap Russian oil and gas, then yes the West is hurt, but that's how you call the bluff on bullies. Don't worry Europe will survive and they are already making deals with other oil producing countries for supplies cos their govts are very organised. But Russia is never going to make one dollar from Europe ever again. Russia is corrupt like Nigeria so the people are so poor and its only Putin and the rich oligarchs that pocket all the money.

Finally if you think Putin who carried his 2 legs into Ukraine to make war is the good guy in this matter, it tells much about how you reason
bassdow:


Actually, they retreated, not because they wanted to but because there was a change of tactics.

Right now, even the WEST have been weakened. You know that game called X & O we play in primary school and you're given 2 or 3 way - meaning no escape. That's what Russia has done to the WEST currently. Either option they try to take, they would get hurt.

For me, none of my business. before now, I knoew nothng of russia but seeing a country survive and stand strong despite being fought by over 30-strong countries, made me look into them.

And I'm not one who takes what I'm given verbatim without looking further
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by edosignature(m): 9:52pm On Oct 03, 2022
Only the dead have seen the end of war's.

Currently Russia occupied more than.25% of Ukrainian territory. The US, UK, Poland, Australia, Sweden NATO & her allies are en-mass in Ukrainian territory fighting against Russia & her allied forces.

Theore weapons that is sent to Ukraine, the more license for death, carnage, destructions sorrow, tears & blood on the Ukrainians.

US spent trillions of dollars & more than 20 years in Afghanistan yet they left the country worst (security) than they met it, at the end they fled in shame & disgrace.

Ukrainians should be wise & demand a Mature, Truthful, Sincere & Peaceful negations with Russia.

Those who still believe Russia is fighting against just only Ukraine lack knowledge of self & are not familiar with international politics & current (affairs) happenings.

Peace is the solution.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Krismas(m): 9:56pm On Oct 03, 2022
God1000:
lol, don't deflect, I thought it was going to be a blitzkrieg military operation within few days in favour of Russia, but the war is still raging seven months after with Ukraine doing the counteroffensive now

Russia isn't a world power, it is just a regional power and it is gradually losing that status.

I'm also surprised here, some nigerians that often complain about western imperialism and colonialism are now supporting this madman and his invasion

And for those of you saying Russia is fighting against US and NATO, don't forget how you guys often brag and hype Russia.

I'm sure some of you don't know the meaning of superpower.
grin What is a superpower? America cannot win against NATO in a conventional war. NATO minus America is huge fighting force. Wot has been said is no member of NATO one on one can defeat Russia, including America. Now it appears NATO is all out against Russia in Ukraine? Anything they see, let dem manage it.
Ukraine wud have been overran in 3days but for NATO and the fact dat Russia must save as much civilians as possible. Cannot be conducting bombings like America in Iraq Afghanistan and so on.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Neoteny7: 9:57pm On Oct 03, 2022
DeepSight:


I have already dealt with this with another poster who made similar assumptions. See below -







As for your mysterious halt order, its up to you to decipher it. Even among different Red Army divisions there was competition to be the first to reach Berlin. All parties understood the importance and significance.

You're incorrect.

The number of planes you're quoting includes biplanes and older WW1 aircraft that were retired. Total aircraft that the USSR operated by 1945 was around 55,000 of mixed types, meaning the US supplied the Russians about 40% or more of their active fleet. That's not an insignificant number.

Here's portion of a text Stalin wrote to Roosevelt:

"Your decision, Mr. President, to give the Soviet Union an interest-free credit of $1 billion in the form of materiel supplies and raw materials has been accepted by the Soviet government with heartfelt gratitude as urgent aid to the Soviet Union in its enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”



Also:


At a dinner toast with Allied leaders during the Tehran Conference in December 1943, Stalin added: “The United States … is a country of machines. Without the use of those machines through Lend-Lease, we would lose this war.”

Nikita Khrushchev, who led the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964, agreed with Stalin’s assessment. In his memoirs, Khrushchev described how Stalin stressed the value of Lend-Lease aid: “He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war.”

The Nazis were within sight of the Kremlin, and what helped the Russkies was winter, Hitler's insistence that his army groups should not retreat and regroup, and Lend-Lease.

As for the order halting the alllies' advance, the only mystery is why it was given. Probably another secret pact to allow the Russians fight the bitter close quarters combat because they don't mind sacrificing their men, and were driven by bloodthirsty vengeance.

Stalin created competition between his men deliberately to hasten their advance, but it's well known who he favored to take Berlin: Zhukov.
Re: Convoy Transporting Equipment For Russia's Nuclear Forces On The Move (pictures) by Krismas(m): 10:00pm On Oct 03, 2022
Toktee:
Russia that's about to be kicked out of Kharson after a massive defeat in Lyman.. You should say Ukrain should temper justice.



Where is GODSON
grin Massive defeat in Liman? grin Russia had only 500soldiers in Liman holding out against so much Ukrainian army for 3wks!
The Ukrainians are idiots grin

(1) (2) (3) ... (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) ... (20) (Reply)

Zelensky Visits Bucha Town, Where 300 Ukranians Were Butchered (Graphic Photos) / Man Flogs His Wife Over Virginity Issue / Aria DiMezzo: Transgender, Satanist & Anarchist Wins Republican Nomination In US

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 108
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.