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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Godfullsam(m): 4:46pm On Oct 23, 2022
What do you want us to do with this information

You are a born again Christian who takes alcohol

You went to a church and clerics were served alcoholic drinks

And you said you didn't see anything wrong..

So what should we do.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by vee22: 4:46pm On Oct 23, 2022
Drunkeness is a sin not drinking
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by davidtemi(m): 4:46pm On Oct 23, 2022
Some pastors drinks moderately, especially Catholics

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by babyfaceafrica: 4:47pm On Oct 23, 2022
So what should we do?
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by princeFAD: 4:47pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.

The name of the church ?
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:47pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.

Leviticus 10:8- 11
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Nobody: 4:48pm On Oct 23, 2022
There are some alcoholic drinks that consist of zero alcohol, especially wines.
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by angelfallz(m): 4:49pm On Oct 23, 2022
Alcohol is not bad. It is pastors that demonise alcohol. Jesus himself drank alcohol.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by orikoku: 4:50pm On Oct 23, 2022
Drink responsibly
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by phemmyfour: 4:51pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.
Only unbelievers use that phrase

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Ygc1: 4:51pm On Oct 23, 2022
Really
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Bigleaf1006: 4:52pm On Oct 23, 2022
There is nothing wrong as long as its moderate

Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by splmosixx(m): 4:53pm On Oct 23, 2022
Oga Sha no go rape person pikin..I no wan see your picture for Lagos State sex offender list..Life imprisonment is real oo.


taylor88:
Oga face your front and leave them alone



Wahala wey dey this country no be wetin person fit face with clear eyes


Abeg Fvck dey hungry me I no wan shout

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Natbrowny: 4:55pm On Oct 23, 2022
davidtemi:
Some pastors drinks moderately, especially Catholics

Yeah. Dat I knw papi. U can't perform or try to perform an exorcism or miracles with clear eyes.

Jack Daniels must be handy to get fired up.
grin grin

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by tishbite41(m): 4:55pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.
You're a clown

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by VanDerWaalforces: 4:56pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.
My brother, if u are born again, it means u are the light of the world. How would your life influence unbelievers when they see u drink? What would they say about Jesus whom u serve? U must make a lot of sacrifices for the propagation of the the gospel and population of the kingdom. What ever u do, ask yourself if Jesus would do same if He were in your shoes? God's grace is sufficient for U.

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Kajaard: 4:56pm On Oct 23, 2022
Natbrowny:


Yeah. Dat I knw papi. U can't perform or try to perform an exorcism or miracles with clear eyes.

Jack Daniels must be handy to get fired up.
grin grin

Lol cheesy grin cheesy

I agree with you my brother cheesy

You can't use clear eyes and face a very angry demon cheesy
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Juanmike(m): 4:58pm On Oct 23, 2022
taylor88:
Oga face your front and leave them alone



Wahala wey dey this country no be wetin person fit face with clear eyes


Abeg Fvck dey hungry me I no wan shout
Come make we...
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Lexicon123: 4:58pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.
Since you also take alcohol (as a “born again Christian”), then what’s the issue here?
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Anetorfavour: 4:58pm On Oct 23, 2022
taylor88:
Oga face your front and leave them alone



Wahala wey dey this country no be wetin person fit face with clear eyes


Abeg Fvck dey hungry me I no wan shout
Since yesterday kpekus dey hungry you. Nor go rape person pikin nor say i nor advice u oo.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Lexicon123: 5:02pm On Oct 23, 2022
VanDerWaalforces:
My brother, if u are born again, it means u are the light of the world. How would your life influence unbelievers when they see u drink? What would they say about Jesus whom u serve? U must make a lot of sacrifices for the propagation of the the gospel and population of the kingdom. What ever u do, ask yourself if Jesus would do same if He were in your shoes? God's grace is sufficient for U.
How is taking alcohol in moderation something wrong? Did Jesus sin by changing water to wine? At least Christians look up to Jesus.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Discountsempai: 5:03pm On Oct 23, 2022
Handsome777:
I went to the headquarters of a popular church in Abuja for a Thanksgiving Service. After the church service, there was a reception where there was an assorted alcohol on the list.

To my surprise, some of the clerics were served alcoholic drinks and they gladly indulged.

I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.

Ah yes, the old...Should christians drink alcohol tale.

What does the bible actually say.

1.Proverbs 20 vs 1
Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.

2. Romans 13.vs 13.

Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.


Proverbs 31 vs 3, 5.
3.It is not for kings, Lemuel— it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer,
5 lest they drink and forget what has been decreed, and deprive all the oppressed of their rights.


1 Corinthians 10 vs 23 -24

23 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive.
24 No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.

The problem with alcohol is that it leads to drunkenness, and by extension leads us to do things that are against the will of God...thus as 1 cor 10 23-24 says, since it may not be constructive to be drunk, it may be better to avoid wine and the risk of being drunk.

But as the bible says...Jesus did turn water into wine...which was alcoholic.

And then there is Eccl 9 vs 7

7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do.


Conc;lusion:

1. It is not against God's law for one to drink alcohol

2.However, if you know and feel that drinking alcohol would lead to drinking in excess, and misleading younger christians...do not drink.

(I follow no 2, because I have issues with discipline myself. I have never drank alcohol in my life...and I know that if I start, I would not be able to control it.).

3.If you drink alcohol and find yourself being drunk all the time...then maybe for the glory of God it is time to give it up.

4.KNOW THY LIMIT.


I conclude with this story...

‘When I was younger I was a bit of a rebel. I hung out with some “bad” kids and did some stupid things, but nothing that could get me in trouble. When I hit the drinking age, I think my parents were worried about me but didn’t know what to do. They knew that no matter what they said I’d just do what I wanted anyway, so they were stuck.

Finally, one day my dad said this to me:

“Hey Reiko, let’s go out drinking together sometime! I’ll take you wherever you want and you can order whatever you want. We can go to some fancy places, it’ll be great.”

As any young person who gets invited out to drink with their dad would probably feel, I didn’t really want to do. But, at the same time, back then I was interested in seeing what nightlife was like. I’d only just barely gotten a taste of it.

So, we went out, just me and my dad. Once we were on the town, he said this:

“All right! Drink all you want, Reiko. Drink until you can’t anymore. Don’t worry, I’ll make sure we get home. You feel free to go crazy.”

It felt really weird being told my dad to “drink all I wanted.” Wouldn’t Mom still be mad at me if I came home drunk? But, I didn’t worry about it too much. I’d already come this far, and Dad said he’d treat me to whatever I wanted, so I decided to take full advantage of the opportunity.

The first stop: a meat-grilling restaurant. The hostess thought I was Dad’s new girlfriend, which he was happy to play right along with.

The second stop: a nightclub. I had some drinks, and the people there saw through Dad’s ruse of pretending I was his girlfriend. But that just made him even happier. He jokingly blamed them figuring it out on my eyes, which he claimed looked just like his.

The third stop: a sushi bar. The chef was nice and had a hint of jealousy in his voice when he talked to my dad. He said that for parents,hanging out with their kid like he was doing with me was a dream come true. My dad was thrilled and encouraged me to keep eating and drinking, since this was a rare opportunity for the two of us to be out.

The fourth stop: a pub. I don’t remember much at that point. I don’t really remember what I drank… what we talked about….

The fifth stop: a “snack” bar. Don’t remember a thing. Pretty sure I just collapsed on the counter.

After that, Dad called a taxi and helped carry me home. I remember briefly regaining consciousness during that time:

“Oh wow. Hey, sorry, Dad. I got kinda drunk.”

“It’s okay. You just go to sleep.”

The next morning when I woke up in bed I felt awful. Not only from the hangover, but also the embarrassment of having drunk so much last night in front of my dad. I didn’t really want to face him after my drunken display last night.

But when I went to the living room, Dad was already gone. My mom gave me a note he’d written for me on the back of some advertisement. It read:

“To Reiko. Last night was fun. We should do it again sometime. Also, Reiko, do you know how much you drank last night to get in that groggy state? You had two beers and five chuhai (shochu high-ball). That’s your ‘limit.’ So from now on, when you go out drinking with friends, be sure to stop before you reach that limit. The world has some bad people in it, and some of them may want to take advantage of you. I can’t be around to protect you, so that’s why we did this, so you can know your own limit and protect yourself. I know you can do it. Love, Dad.”

And I proceeded to eat my breakfast in tears.

Mom told me that she and Dad had been worried for a long time how to best tell me all this. Rather than forbid me from doing tthings they knew I’d do anyway, Dad decided to show me how to take care of myself.

And for that I thank you, Dad. Because of what you did, I never went past my “limit.” I never had any problems with alcohol. I had fun out drinking with friends and never get hurt, thanks to what you taught me.

Now, years later, my dad isn’t as cool as he used to be. He’s an old man. The guy who took me around town drinking is gone. Instead he just spends the days in his garden, growing vegetables for me and his grandchildren to eat.

I am who I am today because of you, Dad. And I can’t thank you enough.

SAUCE

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Pickmycall: 5:04pm On Oct 23, 2022
When you get drunk you will start misbehaving.But when you drink alcohol moderately you won't be acting up.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by FireUpNow(m): 5:06pm On Oct 23, 2022
OP bible did not condemn the use of wine or alcohol but it encourages moderation and stands against drunkuness
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Thebigheart: 5:06pm On Oct 23, 2022
Strong drinks are for those who want to perish.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Barims(m): 5:09pm On Oct 23, 2022
All I know is GOD doesn't exist

Period!!!

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Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by SmartPolician: 5:10pm On Oct 23, 2022
taylor88:
[Oga face your front and leave them alone



Wahala wey dey this country no be wetin person fit face with clear eyes


Abeg Fvck dey hungry me I no wan shout

You Ikeja go carry olosho.

No dey disturb us for Nairaland grin
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Mathain19(m): 5:14pm On Oct 23, 2022
I am a born-again Christian because of my staunch faith in Christ Jesus and I also drink alcohol moderately. I don't believe I am morally wrong.

You are not wrong for indulging morderately in assorted alcoholic practice In a church ..
I think you own heaven more explanation.
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Satazaa: 5:15pm On Oct 23, 2022
Drinking of alcohol by Christians is a perfect catch 22 situation, you can drink and that's fine but y'all should research on how alcohol works on the brain to get a high, from one bottle that delivers a first time high which then reduces if you stay on that one bottle and attempt subsequently to now experience higher highs turns you onto a drunkard over time, that's how alcohol works and that's what's responsible for millions of alcoholic the world over, and that's why one particular religion says don't take it at all, undecided
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Spicycat(f): 5:16pm On Oct 23, 2022
Redomi:
No, but don't drink till you cannot control yourself

And how do you calculate this before you start drinking grin
Re: Is It Morally Wrong For Pastors To Drink Alcohol? by Discountsempai: 5:18pm On Oct 23, 2022
Barims:
All I know is GOD doesn't exist

Period!!!

Good to know...so why are you on a thread for god believers?

People i don't understand...christians who carp on islam threads, muslims who carp on christian threads, and atheists who carp on threads
commenting about how better they are than everyone else because they don't believe in god.

Yes, it's good to know you are an atheist, and I appreciate that. I'm a theist myself. But one thing I don't like about your comment...and feel free to be angry at me, and all...is that you come across as proud, and irritating...and that turns people off.

If you want to open a thread telling people why you don't believe in gods, do so. But don't come on religion sites to be an irritant. It does not make you look wise.

Good to know you are an atheist. In ten years time, no one, including me and u, would recall this thread.

Mdified

If you opened a thread on this site about atheism, and I came here to tell all of you atheists, that I am a thiest, and you are all misguided, you won't like it. So why are you behaving like them fanatic thiest...only atheist?

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