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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:44pm On Oct 29, 2022
1st pic is Watchtower's scam in action.

Last pic is hilarious! grin grin Sisters are now roving mics. grin

RIP Watchtower. Pele. grin

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 3:46pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:
More.....

GB = Governing Body.

The post in the first pic is explaining the Watchtower scam on the JWs in that Kingdom hall.

Have it in mind that these Kingdom halls were built by JWs by their own contributions for it. But Watchtower did some maneuvers unknown to JWs to owns the halls. They then sell the halls and keep the money. Nothing goes to JWs. Money only flows one way in the JW religion. From JWs to Watchtower only and not the other way around. No charities. No giving.

And how does that concern you? Religious leaders determine how their properties are used and sold. Did you hear anyone ran away with the money for private use?
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:48pm On Oct 29, 2022
Who knew that a day would come when Sisters would be allowed to rove mics in Kingdom halls? So, all the males in these Kingdom halls have ran away? grin grin cheesy

Watchtower, Pele. cheesy

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 3:51pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


And how does that concern you? Religious leaders determine how their properties are used and sold. Did you hear anyone ran away with the money for private use?

Learn to read and understand. Have it in mind that these Kingdom halls were built by JWs by their own contributions for it. But Watchtower did some maneuvers unknown to JWs to own the halls. Watchtower then sell the halls and keep the money for themselves. Nothing goes to JWs. Money only flows one way in the JW religion. From JWs to Watchtower only and not the other way around. No charities. No giving.

Religious leaders do not have the right to scam their members. Are you a Religion or a Business? Watchtower is a Business but JWs are not aware. Watchtower is registered as an NGO But never gives to JWs or is never involved in any Charity work. It never helps the needy amongst JWs. That should concern anyone.

I was born into this religion. That is why it concerns me.

Talking about scam, look at the 1st pic below. That's a scam there from Watchtower.

Want to see another scam? Read the article in the link below. Watchtower stole a congregation's money and the Elders sued them.

https://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 4:01pm On Oct 29, 2022
Look at all that growth! Jehovah is truly blessing the organisation. grin

Did you know that there was a JW Zoom Meeting where a very young boy of about 8 years was asked to give opening prayer in the U.S? He was reading from a paper while praying with his eyes open. I wouldn't have believed it if I was told but I watched the video live. The video was really funny. No mature Brother to pray? sad

Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Templee333(m): 4:09pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:


Why are you suddenly interested in his Superstory? You and your miscreants have been picking holes in his story. Is it because I am making this thread hot for you? You don't like that your beloved Cult's yansh has been opened in public because of the false image you JWs present of yourselves. Too late Mad MaxInDHouse. Your secrets are out! That's why JWs are running away in different countries! 1,000 congregations merged to be Only One congregation. Oh what a pity! Now Watchtower is desperate! Your Preaching work is a total waste! grin cheesy
i'm always around & following. I'll post when i'm ready. Let those guys pour out their ignorance for now.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Templee333(m): 4:47pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


Former members of all groups tend to behave that way. While some may have something to say about their former faith to which any new member should bear in mind, most of them do not have sound basis for leaving. Listen to those that have good reasons to present and let alone those that are just angry for nothing.

But bear in mind that no one christian group has monopoly on truth. Secondly, even in divergent views, God can chose anyone from any group for salvation and as His servant. The issue with the GB is that they see themselves as the only channel through which bible truth can flow. That is false. But you can reject the premise, be open minded and worship with them. I am familiar with the witnesses doctrines.

you've made some valid points above,but the guy u're addressing will never agree with you. Maybe you've not known him for long. Just wait & see.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:01pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


Former members of all groups tend to behave that way. While some may have something to say about their former faith to which any new member should bear in mind, most of them do not have sound basis for leaving. Listen to those that have good reasons to present and let alone those that are just angry for nothing.

But bear in mind that no one christian group has monopoly on truth. Secondly, even in divergent views, God can chose anyone from any group for salvation and as His servant. The issue with the GB is that they see themselves as the only channel through which bible truth can flow. That is false. But you can reject the premise, be open minded and worship with them. I am familiar with the witnesses doctrines.

Sorry i never saw this in time not until the runaway OP quoted you!

There's scriptural proof that confirmed the GB as the one and only channel through which Bible truth flow today. If you're open minded we can discuss on that! smiley

Templee333:

you've made some valid points above,but the guy u're addressing will never agree with you. Maybe you've not known him for long. Just wait & see.


Of course i can't agree unless i see evidence in any other group! wink

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SeniorMan715(m): 5:22pm On Oct 29, 2022
Was GB the basic reason why you left ?
Templee333:

you've made some valid points above,but the guy u're addressing will never agree with you. Maybe you've not known him for long. Just wait & see.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 5:25pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:
1st pic is Watchtower's scam in action.

Last pic is hilarious! grin grin Sisters are now roving mics. grin

RIP Watchtower. Pele. grin

Lol

I never imagined a day like this would come when ladies will be asked to rove the mic.

I still remember the first day I started roving mics.

It happened a few weeks after I was baptised.

I still remember feeling like it was the greatest job in the whole wide world.

grin grin

How time flies!

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 5:43pm On Oct 29, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Sorry i never saw this in time not until the runaway OP quoted you!

There's scriptural proof that confirmed the GB as the one and only channel through which Bible truth flow today. If you're open minded we can discuss on that! smiley




Of course i can't agree unless i see evidence in any other group! wink

Let me see the proof that show that the GB of JWs is the only channel.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 5:46pm On Oct 29, 2022
Templee333:

you've made some valid points above,but the guy u're addressing will never agree with you. Maybe you've not known him for long. Just wait & see.

If I realize that, I will move. I don't have time to waste. Let me give him benefit of the doubt.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 5:52pm On Oct 29, 2022
oteneaaron:


Lol

I never imagined a day like this would come when ladies will be asked to rove the mic.

I still remember the first day I started roving mics.

It happened a few weeks after I was baptised.

I still remember feeling like it was the greatest job in the whole wide world.

grin grin

How time flies!

For it to get to this point where Sisters are roving mics means the Cult is close to its grave.

Do you know that a very young boy was asked to give opening prayer in a Zoom Meeting in the U.S? Where are the mature brothers?
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 5:57pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:


For it to get to this point where Sisters are roving mics means the Cult is close to its grave.

Do you know that a very young boy was asked to give opening prayer in a Zoom Meeting in the U.S? Where are the mature brothers?

A very young boy?

How old?

So they were no "matured brothers" to say a prayer?

Lol.

The Watchtower is crumbling.

grin grin grin
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 6:01pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:


Learn to read and understand. Have it in mind that these Kingdom halls were built by JWs by their own contributions for it. But Watchtower did some maneuvers unknown to JWs to own the halls. Watchtower then sell the halls and keep the money for themselves. Nothing goes to JWs. Money only flows one way in the JW religion. From JWs to Watchtower only and not the other way around. No charities. No giving.

Religious leaders do not have the right to scam their members. Are you a Religion or a Business? Watchtower is a Business but JWs are not aware. Watchtower is registered as an NGO But never gives to JWs or is never involved in any Charity work. It never helps the needy amongst JWs. That should concern anyone.

I was born into this religion. That is why it concerns me.

Talking about scam, look at the 1st pic below. That's a scam there from Watchtower.

Want to see another scam? Read the article in the link below. Watchtower stole a congregation's money and the Elders sued them.

https://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/

According to the case by Cobb, his case was rejected and told to amend his claims. So his accusations were not confirmed as true.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:01pm On Oct 29, 2022
oteneaaron:


A very young boy?

How old?

So they were no "matured brothers" to say a prayer?

Lol.

The Watchtower is crumbling.

grin grin grin

Yeah. If someone told me, I would never have believed it. I watched it in an ExJw channel. Someone who still attends meetings sent the video. The boy should be about 8 years. His face was blurred in the video but he was obviously reading from a paper. The thing shock me. grin cheesy
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 6:04pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:


For it to get to this point where Sisters are roving mics means the Cult is close to its grave.

Do you know that a very young boy was asked to give opening prayer in a Zoom Meeting in the U.S? Where are the mature brothers?

And so what? Is there teachings against that? Do you know if the boy was baptized?
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:05pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


According to the case by Cobb, his case was rejected and told to amend his claims. So his accusations were not confirmed as true.

But why was the congregation closed by Watchtower, the Elders were removed and the members of the congregation were threatened with Disfellowshipping when they spoke out? Those actions speak volumes and tells you the intent. What will a Congregation gain by protesting Fraudulent activities? Are youbaware that JWs are not allowed to speak out for themselves for any reason? JWs are not allowed to disagree with Watchtower. Watchtower is a tyrant. For this congregation to speak out means something is wrong somewhere. Watchtower are theives!

Watchtower is a Business. Charles Taze Russell said so. Only JWs haven't taken the hint.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Sand2022: 6:07pm On Oct 29, 2022
Courz:


But why was the congregation closed by Watchtower, the Elders were removed and the members of the congregation were threatened with Disfellowshipping when they spoke out? Those actions speak volumes and tells you the intent. Watchtower are theives!

Watchtower is a Business. Charles Taze Russell said so. Only JWs haven't taken the hint.

It could be true, but we can't be sure of that. The court didn't confirm such claim.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:08pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


And so what? Is there teachings against that? Do you know if the boy was baptized?

Oh my goodness. You don't know anything about JW and you are forming Voltron for JW. You don't know how things are done there. Only members and Ex members know that. please, don't embarrass yourself. Just ask questions and we will answer. Don't argue.

And Yes, young boys are not qualified to give opening prayers in the Kingdom hall. You must be either a Mature male or someone vying for or have taken Ministerial servant or elder roles which are given to young males from their late teens and above for the Ministerial servants and to adults mostly in their 30s and above for Elders positions. In most cases, Elders are the ones giving opening prayers. Presently, because most JW Males are running away from these roles, they are now giving Elder positions to males in their 20s. The Cult lacks Man power that is why you can see in some countries Sisters are roving Mics.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:09pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


It could be true, but we can't be sure of that. The court didn't confirm such claim.

Ask yourself, why did a Congregation rebel and sue Watchtower? Why is there a court case? Why did Watchtower take their money, close that congregation, removed the Elders and threatened the congregation members that spoke out? Actions speak louder. Actions tell you what a person truly is. How has Watchtower conducted themselves in this case?
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 6:10pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:


It could be true, but we can't be sure of that. The court didn't confirm such claim.

Ask yourself, why did Watchtower close that congregation, take their money and removed the Elders if their claims are Not true?

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Oct 29, 2022
Sand2022:

Let me see the proof that show that the GB of JWs is the only channel.

Sorry for the late response i was at a cork take party, today is my friend's wedding anniversary.

Please hold your Bible at hand and let's do the digging for spiritual gems!

The Bible is God's message to mankind and it's like a guidebook or manual God gave us. The entire human race are faced with one problem and that's how to know the source of divine guidance, since demons are also disguising as angels of light {2Corinthians 14:11} many books has been written all in the name of Holy scriptures. So God told us what to expect from the source of divine wisdom {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} according to this verses God's Holy Spirit will move round the earth and gathered millions of faithful people in all races, they will become like a global family using the Bible as their guidebook, they will use what they found in God's word to settle all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their hearts and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

Jesus said there will be falsehood during the endtime as Satan's agents will be serving as prophets {Matthew 7:15} but by their end result you will know them {Matthew 7:16} because those who are truly connected to Christ will be the only one yielding positive results! Matthew 7:17-18

Please let me know if there is any other group claiming Christians that is producing what God said at Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 apart from Jehovah's Witnesses. If there's any other group then we have to consider those feeding them spiritually speaking to ascertain if they're also part of the faithful and discreet slave Jesus foretold during the endtime! Matthew 24:45


Thanks for your time! smiley

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 9:50pm On Oct 29, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Sorry for the late response i was at a cork take party today is my friend's wedding anniversary.

Please hold your Bible at hand and let's do the digging for spiritual gems!

The Bible is God's message to mankind and it's like a guidebook or manual God gave us. The entire human race are faced with one problem and that's how to know the source of divine guidance, since demons are also disguising as angels of light {2Corinthians 14:11} many books has been written all in the name of Holy scriptures. So God told us what to expect from the source of divine wisdom {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} according to this verses God's Holy Spirit will move round the earth and gathered millions of faithful people in all races, they will become like a global family using the Bible as their guidebook, they will use what they found in God's word to settle all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their hearts and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

Jesus said there will be falsehood during the endtime as Satan's agents will be serving as prophets {Matthew 7:15} but by their end result you will know them {Matthew 7:16} because those who are truly connected to Christ will be the only one yielding positive results! Matthew 7:17-18

Please let me know if there is any other group claiming Christians that is producing what God said at Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 apart from Jehovah's Witnesses. If there's any other group then we have to consider those feeding them spiritually speaking to ascertain if they're also part of the faithful and discreet slave Jesus foretold during the endtime! Matthew 24:45


Thanks for your time! smiley

What is this that you just typed Mad MaxInDHouse? How have you answered his question? You even called your speech spiritual gems. You just typed a very long speech and said absolutely nothing. Ahn Ahn!

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by johnw47: 11:31pm On Oct 29, 2022
zoer:
Is there a better replacement for JW?



paranoid mad max to courz :
MaxInDHouse:


Oteneaaron, i will give you hypertension if you continue disguising! cheesy

Come on answer the question and stop being silly.

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost and forever paranoid false jw mad max

the question has been answered many times oh blinded one:

any group that doesn't lie habitually, that isn't fearfully paranoid, who don't make false prophecies, that don't post their pictures/idols all over the place, etc.etc.etc. is better group than so called Jehovah's witnesses

satan blinds his own to the truth:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

paranoia is fear:
rev 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Templee333(m): 7:32am On Oct 30, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Was GB the basic reason why you left ?
oh! Are u now asking me question? I thought you know everything about the JW org & you know that all i'm saying here are lies? I don't have to answer you because as you know, i'll be lying to u.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Templee333(m): 7:49am On Oct 30, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Though am not a Jw but most of the things you are saying here are false, Every denomination have people that are righteous and unrighteous in them, whether they have been long time members or not. I have associated with many Jw and befriended them, i know a lot about them.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SeniorMan715(m): 8:21am On Oct 30, 2022
Shallow smiley
Templee333:
oh! Are u now asking me question? I thought you know everything about the JW org & you know that all i'm saying here are lies? I don't have to answer you because as you know, i'll be lying to u.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:56am On Oct 30, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Shallow smiley

SeniorMan715:
Was GB the basic reason why you left ?
Now you're getting the drift of course their thinking is SHALLOW! undecided

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 10:10am On Oct 30, 2022
Templee333:
oh! Are u now asking me question? I thought you know everything about the JW org & you know that all i'm saying here are lies? I don't have to answer you because as you know, i'll be lying to u.

Don't mind this people. You have never been born into this religion. You have never been baptised. You have never walked the walk. You have never consumed all that junk of ever changing doctrines we consumed and believed with the whole of our hearts. You have never taken painful decisions just because you want to put the Cult first before anything. You have never lost families because of No Blood Transfusion. You have never been a Robot where in spite of whatever you see in this Cult, you still fake a smile and say, We are better than everyone, We are the chosen people.

Yet, you come here forming Voltron, defender of JW just because you have friends in there believing they are Nice people and judging the religion based on only the people there. You cannot believe that they go through what we are saying here. Just because you know people or have friends doesn't mean you know the religion. The Cult is built to be complex and inconsitent. Heck, even I who was born in it, after I got baptised, I realised that there is a lot about this religion I didn't know. That's how bad the secrecy is. Unpalatable Things or doctrines are revealed to you slowly and with time as you mature. There are things the regular JW doesn't know about that the Elders know and it continues like that as you go higher in ranks. There are some protocols and rules you never knew existed. There are doctrines they teach you never knew existed.

I never knew field service hours below 10 is considered low and you will be looked upon as Spiritually weak if your hours are so.

I never knew that there are Cliques in the Cult. And if you are not totally invested mind, body, and soul into the Cult, no one will associate with you in that Cult.

I never knew there was Tribalism, Politics, favoritism over the Rich than the Poor in this Cult.

I never knew that JWs are just normal people with many flaws which is the total opposite of what they boast about themselves or present outside. I never knew that they will prove to you that Non JWs can be way better than them in everything in spite of their many boasts.

I never knew that JWs are capable of maintaining a different personality in the Kingdom hall and another one outside the Kingdom hall. In other words, I never knew the Cult programs you to be that way without you knowing it.

I never knew that everything that happens outside the Cult, happens in the Cult.

I never knew that keeping beards is forbidden and if you do, you are looked upon as Spiritually weak. You may even get shunned for it.

I never knew that Jesus was Not my mediator but only for the 144,000 anointed ones aka Freemasons.

I never knew that Almighty God is NOT my father yet until after the 1000 year reign of Christ. But the 144,000, a.k.a Freemasons, are the sons of God and have been declared righteous. While me, I am not.

I never knew that they teach that Jesus is Archangel Michael.

I never knew that in Bethel, wearing branded shirts is forbidden and considered Idolatry. Yet, jw org is branded everywhere.

I never knew that University Education is kicked against and Elders whose children attend plus Ministerial servants will be removed.

I never knew all the offences a JW commits that will result to Disfellowshipping.

I never knew that Taking Blood Transfusion means disassociating yourself from the Cult.

I never knew that if you leave the Cult, your family and friends that are in the Cult MUST stay away from you.

I never knew that Watchtower has a history of being False prophets with many False prophecies.

I never knew that Watchtower has hinted their involvement in Spiritism many times in old publications.

I never knew Old publications are forbidden to be read and are regarded as Apostate materials.

I never knew we are not allowed to read anything negative about the Cult outside.

I never knew that as a JW, you are never to report your fellow JWs to the Police, no matter the offence and if you do, you will be punished. Therefore, whatever happens in the Cult, must stay in the Cult because Image is everything, you will be told that "We don't want to bring Reproach on Jehovah's name" which actually means that We don't want Watchtower to look bad in the eyes of the public. We need a very clean image that is false and people can be easily fooled by image.

I never knew that we are NOT allowed to ask certain questions, are not allowed to question or criticise or correct the JW Leaders when they are obviously wrong. I never knew I was meant to be a Robot and just obey.

I never knew that Watchtower protects Pedophiles and even threatens victims with Disfellowshipping if they speak out to the authorities.

I never knew that Watchtower teaches that Rapists should be respected and they require understanding.

I never knew the history of No Blood doctrine and how it was changed many times.

I never knew that Watchtower used to teach that undergoing Organ Transplants is Cannibalism.

I never knew that some JW top leaders were homosexuals, rapists and Child Sexual abusers.

I never knew JW founder was a Freemason and an adulterer.

I never knew JW Leader Rutherford was a Drunkard and a womaniser.

I never knew Rutherford was the one that caused the Jewish JWs to be killed.

I never knew that Watchtower was the cause of Malawi JW women and children being raped and Murdered because of a stupid doctrine that should never have existed.

I never knew that the JW Organisation is actually a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian Religion.

I never knew that apart from the above, Watchtower was created to be a Business, NOT a religion, by Russell and a group of other Freemason colleagues. I never knew they are A Billionaire company with a very huge Real Estate empire.

I never understood the secrecy behind the whole 144,000 thing and how they know that they are anointed. But lo and behold, I also never knew that the 144,000 are Freemasons.

I never knew that the only people who know all of Watchtower's secrets are the 144,000 a.k.a Freemasons.

I never knew that Whatever money Watchtower makes, be it donations/voluntary contributions of JWs and properties donated or inherited from dead JWs by the organisation and profits of real estate sales, goes to these 144,000 a.k.a. Freemasons.

I never knew that the means through which Watchtower gets Bible Truths is through the Occult.

I never knew Watchtower is registered as an NGO which is why they demand for Field service reports.

I will update this post when I remember more.

And you, who has never been a member, believe you know everything just by looking at people. grin grin

I pity you. A newly baptised person still knows nothing. You must spend many years in this Cult. It is when you have become a member of this Cult and lived it as a lifestyle that has no alternative, you will then know the meaning of Secrecy.

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Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by SeniorMan715(m): 11:40am On Oct 30, 2022
smiley You guys keep convincing me how shallow your reasoning and understanding is how can you say Russell was the founder of jw, it just showed you never understood anything you were just a pretence, instead of you to clarify the truth you are here talking out of speculations.
Re: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by Courz: 11:42am On Oct 30, 2022
SeniorMan715:
smiley You guys keep convincing me how shallow your reasoning and understanding is how can you say Russell was the founder of jw, it just showed you never understood anything you were just a pretence, instead of you to clarify the truth you are here talking out of speculations.

Okay, you, a non member, who knows better than us and better than Google, tell us, who is the founder of JW?

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