₦airaland Forum

sonmvayina:
Lol...

You are basically saying God wanted a son because the gospel writers said he had a son.

Aemmyjah:
I did not read all the comments in this post but I see someone attacked you cos you said the account of the flood is a myth and Jesus Christ is also a myth? Is that true? If so, there's no relevance in asking or waiting for any answers to your questions. It is just like trying to convince a staunch racist why blacks must be respected. Mind you, the flood is a REAL event and Jesus Christ is a Real person. Only a foolish fool will say Jesus Christ never existed. Jesus Christ is arguably the most influential man today. Where will you mention the name and people just look at you ignorantly? How can a mythical personage be such influential? Honestly, atheists have half-baked brains

Aemmyjah:
I did not read all the comments in this post but I see someone attacked you cos you said the account of the flood is a myth and Jesus Christ is also a myth? Is that true? If so, there's no relevance in asking or waiting for any answers to your questions. It is just like trying to convince a staunch racist why blacks must be respected. Mind you, the flood is a REAL event and Jesus Christ is a Real person. Only a foolish fool will say Jesus Christ never existed. Jesus Christ is arguably the most influential man today. Where will you mention the name and people just look at you ignorantly? How can a mythical personage be such influential? Honestly, atheists have half-baked brains

sonmvayina:
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/

sonmvayina:
Provide the proof that he existed

Aemmyjah:
Atheists do not believe in God, spirits and the reject the Bible. So you are referring me to their website to convince me abi? You need a slap on the back of your head. Go to their website and keep sucking from them. You don't even have your own convictions. Sorry, I won't click that link

Aemmyjah:
Provide the proof that he existed
There are secular and non Christian Jewish historians that have made references as to Jesus Christ, his activities and his disciples like Tacitus, Josephus and Suetonius and even in the Koran. Since seeing is believing, go and find those references for yourself if you don't have a biased mind. How will you do so when you give your ears to the drums of atheist? A man that even mainstream Christian have some 'holy days' and celebration for him done worldwide, what about the AD and BC on the calendar? Keep listening to atheists

Aemmyjah:
Provide the proof that he existed
There are secular and non Christian Jewish historians that have made references as to Jesus Christ, his activities and his disciples like Tacitus, Josephus and Suetonius and even in the Koran. Since seeing is believing, go and find those references for yourself if you don't have a biased mind. How will you do so when you give your ears to the drums of atheist? A man that even mainstream Christian have some 'holy days' and celebration for him done worldwide, what about the AD and BC on the calendar? Keep listening to atheists

sonmvayina:
Maybe your just a JJC on this forum.

We have seen all those, they are nothing but conjectures and interpolation by Christian forgers and scribe.. especially Eusebius..

Aemmyjah:
That's where you are making so sense. Most of these writers were Romans and their writings were derogatory things and propaganda about Christ and his disciples. Most critics use this to say that Jesus never existed. But because someone write reports to condemn a person does not mean that one does not exist right? If I write all sorts of bad things about you, it is wrong to use such analysis to prove you don't exist. Like I said, I won't click on that link as you have nothing to prove from your own conviction. I was expecting you to bring up something real as a smart person, you bring up link of atheism. That action alone shows that there's no need discussing anything again with you

sonmvayina:
You have still not provided the proof that Jesus existed with God from the beginning.
Moses who spoke with God did not know. Seems God kept that quiet.
Show me one portion in the Tanakh that support the fact that Jesus existed before the Greeks/Romans started forging their books...

Dtruthspeaker:
See better Madness.

The person you responded to, said this Since 2years ago, only for you to return and you continue like it was just yesterday? Your madness can never ever be cured. And that is why it is only those new members who do not know you are mad who talk to you. Drug addict

sonmvayina:
gohf,
Why does God need a son for?

Maybe you have another angle to this discussion..

gohf:
Did God ever say He needed a son?

We are the ones who need the son of God not the other way around?

If you ask why does God need a representative upon the earth, then you can also ask why does God need to be God and create?


Only what God tells us is what we know, and what God revealed in Genesis is that God called for light and there was light and so began the rest of God's creation and making. God made a decision to make a tool to use for his work and God called him forth.

So maybe God would have used something else but what God did use to create was His word which He spoke and it performed.

Or are you saying I should explain why God needs His word?
It is for the same reason God brought forth His spirit, the spirit that gives wisdom before He spoke, so will I also have to know why God needs His spirit and His wisdom, have you ever considered that they were not for Him but for His purpose and what He wants to do.

I believe the goal of the Bereshit is God making a house full of His children and He decided how it was going to be and who would be in it.

There are things I don't know, even though you ask them. For example why is there God? How am I supposed to answer that, would we not first know who God is before we even consider why or even what He has need of. God who is self sufficient and sovereign He tells us He doesn't need anything He is sufficient for Himself, so all He has created and made isn't even for Himself and that's why His children inherit everything.

sonmvayina:
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/

sonmvayina:
Where is the bolded contained in Genesis...

See Isaiah45: 5 &6

5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me.
6 In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other.

What do you have to say ?

gohf:
the bolded you highlighted did I say it was written in Genesis or did I tell you that it was a god or another god?

Did you even read what I wrote?

Did I in anyway infer that there was another god?

sonmvayina:
Ok. I read it now. And my post still stands.

He said there was no one besides him. So how you
And are you insinuating that God who is a spirit has another spirit??

Hope you know, God has no physical form.

gohf:
God created the heavens and the earth and..... the spirit of God was moving upon the face of waters. Who told you that because God is a consuming fire who makes his ministers flame of fire and in front of Him are the burning ones means they are God?

There is only one God, stop asking me what I never insinuated nor suggested

sonmvayina:
Why does God need a son??

sonmvayina:
Why does God need a son??

gohf:
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.


since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

For there is one God . and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

gohf:
no