earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

Who are children of God? They are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ -- not to be confused with the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches).

31 So Jesus said to the Jews who believed in him, “If you continue to accept and obey my teaching, you are really my followers.
32 You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
33 They answered, “We are Abraham’s descendants. And we have never been slaves. So why do you say that we will be free?”
34 Jesus said, “The truth is, everyone who sins is a slave—a slave to sin.
35 A slave does not stay with a family forever. But a son belongs to the family forever.
36 So if the Son makes you free, you are really free. - John 8 vs 31 - 36

When you submit to religion, instead of to God, you cannot claim to be children of God, nor can you claim any of the benefits that belong only to Children of God.

chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

what you are going through has nothing to do with religion. You will understand this better when you eventually ported to atheism, your situation will still remain the same.

Ask yourself a simple question, why am i a Christian?

John 3:16...And whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Everlasting life should be your priority of being a Christian, not for a better life to live here on this earth.
Anyone telling you that being a Christian or belonging to some religious or non religious group or living in isolation will bring you fortune is a scammer of this 21St century.
Fortune or failure is for everyone irrespective of their religion, creed or disposition.
If you plant you reap success, if you don't plant you reap failure

Though, there are chances of getting help from the church or any church member who has the capacity to assist, but you will have to position yourself for that help by

1. Learning a skill(either by furthering your education or learning a trade or handwork)
2. Be committed to your work or whatever skill you have choosed
3. Be cheerful always inspite your situation : This may attract helpers you can't tell.
4. Be prayerful (not necessarily some long prayer but a simple wishes of fortune is enough)

Even if you end up becoming an atheist you will stil go through all these before you can be successful so whats the point?

chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

It's unfortunate what your family is passing through. Please take heart.

Bad things happen to everyone - those trying their best to live righteously and those who are wicked.

You remind me of a certain man of God, Asaph. He felt and expressed his feelings the way you do. When you read his melody in Psalms 73, you will learn a lot from him and be strengthened.

Also, I am sure you read or heard about endurance of Job. He was a righteous man and maintained his integrity despite his trials.

It is wrong what we are sometimes taught today by some religious teachers. They want you to believe that when you embrace Christ, all your problems and troubles will be gone instantly. This makes many church members to die in silence so that they won't be seeing as sinners, as they claim bad things only happen to those who are sinners.

Yes, one day all life's troubles and problems will be gone forever, but not in this present satanic system of things. Each time you say the lord's prayer, you are telling God to put an end to all mankind's problems permanently by means of his kingdom or government.

Freksy:
1. You remind me of a certain man of God, Asaph. He felt and expressed his feelings the way you do. When you read his melody in Psalms 73, you will learn a lot from him. I am sure you read or heard about the endurance of Job. He was a righteous man and remained same dispute his trials.

2. It is wrong what we are sometimes taught today by some religious teachers. They want you to believe that when you embrace Christ, all your problems and troubles will be gone instantly. This makes many church members to die in silence so that they won't be seeing as sinners, as they claim bad things only happen to those who are sinners.

3. Yes, one day all life's troubles and problems will be gone forever, but not in this present satanic system of things. Each time you say the lord's prayer, you are telling God to put an end to all mankind's problems permanently by means of his kingdom or government.

1. You speak of Job, well, the problem here is that Job did not, in any of his lamentations to God, by the way, indicate that he struggled with figuring out what to eat, what to wear, or even where to live during the time of his struggles. And funny enough, Job's ordeal lasted only a couple of months, whereas, most of those stuck in religious rot have struggled for many years with no end in sight. There plight no different from that of the poor in the world. So, how can you unashamedly compare the plight of the religious and blind to that of the righteous in suffering?

2. Indeed, religion is built atop the lies of men( and their churches).

3. For the majority of religions, the end of their suffering comes with death, so how can you blame Satan when the very foundation of that which is religious is rooted in lies - of Satan? Is satan really to blame for your adoption and building of your lives around these lies?

Please I want to type epistle so bad... After you answered this questions truthfully.

(1) What type of sickness are we talking about?
(2) Who is the child of God here? You? You father? Your sister?
(3) You leaving the religion (whatever it may be) will change God's position as the supreme being?


Btw, for those coming to read... Check my signature yet?

Kobojunkie:
1. You speak of Job, well, the problem here is that Job did not, in any of his lamentations to God, by the way, indicate that he struggled with figuring out what to eat, what to wear, or even where to live during the time of his struggles. And funny enough, Job's ordeal lasted only a couple of months, whereas, most of those stuck in religious rot have struggled for many years with no end in sight. There plight no different from that of the poor in the world. So, how can you unashamedly compare the plight of the religious and blind to that of the righteous in suffering?

You sound like what he experienced, on a scale, was lightweight comparatively.

The account of Job's ordeal was not a catalog or biography of Job's entire life.

It's obvious a man of his age might have experienced a lot , other ups and downs unmentioned in the bible. He had been a child, a youth before becoming an adult and aged.

Besides, the life's odds I experience within a year can surpass what you experience in ten years.

2. Indeed, religion is built atop the lies of men( and their churches).

3. For the majority of religions, the end of their suffering comes with death, so how can you blame Satan when the very foundation of that which is religious is rooted in lies - of Satan? Is satan really to blame for your adoption and building of your lives around these lies?

What lie about religion or Satan are you talking about?

Freksy:
1. You sound like what he experienced, on a scale, was lightweight comparatively. The account of Job's ordeal was not a catalog or biography of Job's entire life. It's obvious a man of his age might have experienced a lot , other ups and downs unmentioned in the bible. He had been a child, a youth before becoming an adult and aged.

2. Besides, the life's odds I experience within a year can surpass what you experience in ten years.

3. What lie about religion or Satan are you talking about?

1. Indeed it wasn't meant as that as the events documented took place over a span of several months, according to the story itself. So, don't worry about Job's lifetime suffering catalog, instead focus on just that documented in that story which is reported to have taken place when Job was deemed righteous by God.

2. You focus is on the wrong things here. It doesn't matter the amount of suffering one has to endure, what is more important is that God's promise to take care of His own through it all stands. Job never begged for food, nor clothing or even a place to live from those who were around Him and that is just the least of God's promise to those who belong to Him.

3. God gave to men a a Law, Jesus Christ. Men took God's word and twisted them in order to build for themselves a system by which they wielded, albeit assumed, control over God and the things of God where their fellow men are concerned, and that is what religion is. Obviously, since religion is built on lies, it is of the domain of, you guessed it, Satan.

chikishpilot:
and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day,...

Church goers thinking that church going and much prayers means a person is a Christian.

If God does not hear you then you are a sinner. John 9:31

paxonel:
what you are going through has nothing to do with religion. You will understand this better when you eventually ported to atheism, your situation will still remain the same.

Ask yourself a simple question, why am i a Christian?

John 3:16...And whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Everlasting life should be your priority of being a Christian, not for a better life to live here on this earth.
Anyone telling you that being a Christian or belonging to some religious or non religious group or living in isolation will bring you fortune is a scammer of this 21St century.
Fortune or failure is for everyone irrespective of their religion, creed or disposition.
If you plant you reap success, if you don't plant you reap failure

Though, there are chances of getting help from the church or any church member who has the capacity to assist, but you will have to position yourself for that help by

1. Learning a skill(either by furthering your education or learning a trade or handwork)
2. Be committed to your work or whatever skill you have choosed
3. Be cheerful always inspite your situation : This may attract helpers you can't tell.
4. Be prayerful (not necessarily some long prayer but a simple wishes of fortune is enough)

Even if you end up becoming an atheist you will stil go through all these before you can be successful so whats the point?

i have a skill o, no be skill be the problem nah money to start am, earlier this year i learnt what is called domain flipping that's selling website names to users, i payed 10k to one of the bosses here but after planning everything it still didn't work

Kobojunkie:
1. Indeed it wasn't meant as that as the events documented took place over a span of several months, according to the story itself. So, don't worry about Job's lifetime suffering catalog, instead focus on just that documented in that story which is reported to have taken place when Job was deemed righteous by God.

2. You focus is on the wrong things here. It doesn't matter the amount of suffering one has to endure,

Compare what you wrote above with what you wrote earlier below.

'And funny enough, Job's ordeal lasted only a couple of months, whereas, most of those stuck in religious rot have struggled for many years with no end in sight'.

It doesn't matter how long or short it lasted.

what is more important is that God's promise to take care of His own through it all stands.

Yes, not how long or short one suffers. His faithful stand to the end is what count the most. This has been my position. It's good you have realized this.

Job never begged for food, nor clothing or even a place to live from those who were around Him

Job was a very wealthy and healthy man. At a point he lost everything - his business, house(s), all his ten chicken, his good health etc. In spite of the loses, he maintained his integrity to the end of his trials. What point do you intend to make out of this? That his righteousness is what made him materially rich?

and that is just the least of God's promise to those who belong to Him.

In other words, if you are materially wealthy, you are of God, and if you are materially lacking, you are not God's. Is that what you mean?

3. God gave to men a a Law, Jesus Christ. Men took God's word and twisted them in order to build for themselves a system by which they wielded, albeit assumed, control over God and the things of God where their fellow men are concerned, and that is what religion is. Obviously, since religion is built on lies, it is of the domain of, you guessed it, Satan.

Leave religion out of this. You even sound like a strong advocate of one.

Kobojunkie:
Who are children of God? They are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ -- not to be confused with the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches).
When you submit to religion, instead of to God, you cannot claim to be children of God, nor can you claim any of the benefits that belong only to Children of God.

Jesus I know whom you have quoted and referenced wouldn't in any way respond this way.

He was very caring, compassionate and sensitive to the needs of people.

His words were refreshing and brought relief to those who were weak and sick spiritually.

He did not sound judgemental or attempt to crush already 'bruised reed'.

Freksy:
1. Compare what you wrote above with what you wrote earlier below. It doesn't matter how long or short it lasted.
Yes, not how long or short one suffers. His faithful stand to the end is what count the most. This has been my position. It's good you have realized this.

2. Job was a very wealthy and healthy man. At a point he lost everything - his business, house(s), all his ten chicken, his good health etc. In spite of the loses, he maintained his integrity to the end of his trials. What point do you intend to make out of this? That his righteousness is what made him materially rich? In other words, if you are materially wealthy, you are of God, and if you are materially lacking, you are not God's. Is that what you mean?

3. . Leave religion out of this. You even sound like a strong advocate of one.

1. Yes, it doesn't matter how long it has to last. Job's lasted a couple of months, whereas for some, it might be shorter and others longer, but what matters is that God's promise is experienced throughout it all.

2. I keep telling you your focus is on the wrong things. Job is written to have lost pretty much everything he had so how could he have been "materially wealthy" even when his sufferings began God's? God's promise to those who are of Him is that there will be suffering and tribulations but He will take care of them through it all. Job lost everything but Job is not written to have had to beg for food, for clothing or even a place to live ... and this the least of his needs. God is the reason for this - Matthew 6 vs 25 - 34 for those who belong to Jesus Christ. Can you compare that to the suffering of others who claim to be Christians to whom you keep citing the example of job to?

3. I am simply advocating here the Truth of God as stated by Jesus Christ to all those who will follow Him and obey Him..

Freksy:
1. Jesus I know whom you have quoted and referenced wouldn't in any way respond this way. He was very caring, compassionate and sensitive to the needs of people. His words were refreshing and brought relief to those who were weak and sick spiritually. He did not sound judgemental or attempt to crush already 'bruised reed'.

1. You definitely need to pick up and read for your own self the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John so you obtain a more realistic picture of who Jesus Christ is. He is God's Law in the Kingdom of God and according to Him, His Love is reserved only for those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - John 13 vs 1 and John 15 vs 9 - 11

Kobojunkie:
1. Yes, it doesn't matter how long it has to last. Job's lasted a couple of months, whereas for some, it might be shorter and others longer, but what matters is that God's promise is experienced throughout it all.

2. I keep telling you your focus is on the wrong things. Job is written to have lost pretty much everything he had so how could he have been "materially wealthy" even when his sufferings began God's? God's promise to those who are of Him is that there will be suffering and tribulations but He will take care of them through it all. Job lost everything but Job is not written to have had to beg for food, for clothing or even a place to live ... and this the least of his needs. God is the reason for this - Matthew 6 vs 25 - 34 for those who belong to Jesus Christ. Can you compare that to the suffering of others who claim to be Christians to whom you keep citing the example of job to?

3. I am simply advocating here the Truth of God as stated by Jesus Christ to all those who will follow Him and obey Him..

Job 1:1-3
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. 2 And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters. 3 His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east'.

Job 42:10
'And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before'.

Job was wealthy before his ordeal, and doubly so after that.

Freksy:
Job was wealthy before his ordeal, and doubly so after that.

And so?


Look, if your sole focus is on the material wealth job had before suffering and what happened afterwards, then I am afraid you have missed the core aspects aspects the entire story just like that.

chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life

1Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.

2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.

3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.

5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.

6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.

7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.

8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.

9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.

10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.

11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psalms 73:1-16

chikishpilot:

, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

Ecclesiastes 9:11

chikishpilot:
earlier this year my dad saved around 400k, he have been saving for like 2 years now, but our elder sister started having problems (sickness) the whole of the money was wasted, and this my father doesn't joke with God o, he have been seing hell, i mean i pity that man, he is getting tired day by day, how should the children of God be in shame while the so called sinners are swimming in glory living a healthy a life, i am fed up, i have to quit, not to join another religion but rather to restore my sanity, and believe reality, is time to use praying time and double my hustle

Good decision...

Face life squarely.

Religion gt as e bee. Those arguing are mostly pastors kids or pastors, it's dia source of livlyhood.

paxonel:
what you are going through has nothing to do with religion. You will understand this better when you eventually ported to atheism, your situation will still remain the same.

Ask yourself a simple question, why am i a Christian?

John 3:16...And whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Everlasting life should be your priority of being a Christian, not for a better life to live here on this earth.
Anyone telling you that being a Christian or belonging to some religious or non religious group or living in isolation will bring you fortune is a scammer of this 21St century.
Fortune or failure is for everyone irrespective of their religion, creed or disposition.
If you plant you reap success, if you don't plant you reap failure

Though, there are chances of getting help from the church or any church member who has the capacity to assist, but you will have to position yourself for that help by

1. Learning a skill(either by furthering your education or learning a trade or handwork)
2. Be committed to your work or whatever skill you have choosed
3. Be cheerful always inspite your situation : This may attract helpers you can't tell.
4. Be prayerful (not necessarily some long prayer but a simple wishes of fortune is enough)

Even if you end up becoming an atheist you will stil go through all these before you can be successful so whats the point?

Why must a Child of God pass through life stress like every oda person? Wia is d benefit in God?

I see none.

paxonel:
what you are going through has nothing to do with religion. You will understand this better when you eventually ported to atheism, your situation will still remain the same...

It will be worse!

And this time like a trailer falling down from a hill, he has reached his point of no return, so he falls to his destruction.

Which is why you see that atheists can never repent because God cuts them off completely and absolutely and permanently.

LikeAking:


Why must a Child of God pass through life stress like every oda person? Wia is d benefit in God?

I see none.

This is the work of liars. Children of God do not go through stress. They lie down in green pastures, wanting nothing and having all supplied.

And this is the distinguishing Mark of the children of God!

Dtruthspeaker:


This is the work of liars. Children of God do not go through stress. They lie down in green pastures, wanting nothing and having all supplied.

And this is the distinguishing Mark of the children of God!

Wat are u saying?

Why must some one serve a big God and still suffer? Even Gfs of powerful men don't surfer..

Dtruthspeaker:


It will be worse!

And this time like a trailer falling down from a hill, he has reached his point of no return, so he falls to his destruction.

Which is why you see that atheists can never repent because God cuts them off completely and absolutely and permanently.

E good na, if God cut am off...

LikeAking:


Why must a Child of God pass through life stress like every oda person?

because it isn't God's fault that there was no solid foundation laid by his ancestors of the nearest generations who lived before him for the betterment of his life today, it is very common especially in Africa, that's why there are little privileges or opportunities in Africa.
Check it, most people that are enjoying today were either sponsored by their parents or someone else to study in school, or they had landed properties that they had inherited from their ancestors

Wia is d benefit in God?

I see none.

it's so because the benefit lies in the spirit since God is a spirit.
And since you cannot see God with your physical eyes therefore you cannot see his benefits with your physical eyes but only the eyes for faith.

For without faith it is impossible to please God

paxonel:
because it isn't God's fault that there was no solid foundation laid by his ancestors of the nearest generations who lived before him for the betterment of his life today, it is very common especially in Africa, that's why there are little privileges or opportunities in Africa.
Check it, most people that are enjoying today were either sponsored by their parents or someone else to study in school, or they had landed properties that they had inherited from their ancestors
it's so because the benefit lies in the spirit since God is a spirit.
And since you cannot see God with your physical eyes therefore you cannot see his benefits with your physical eyes but only the eyes for faith.

For without faith it is impossible to please God

U are so funny..

Why searve a God, he said he will make the crocked ways straight, repair d damaged foundations, etc.

People can't be serving God, while the watch their lives downgrade..

LikeAking:
U are so funny..

Why searve a God, so far he will make the crocked ways straight, repair d damaged foundations, etc.

People can't be serving God, while the watch their lives downgrade..

For once you are right!

Kobojunkie:
For once you are right!

Hw?


E no dey possible...

LikeAking:


E good na, if God cut am off...

Blackberry, Sagem, Pager, Nokia 3310, all of dem go tell you say e no good when your Creator cut you comot.

Dtruthspeaker:


Blackberry, Sagem, Pager, Nokia 3310, all of dem go tell you say e no good when your Creator cut you comot.

Which creator?

LikeAking:


Wat are u saying?

Why must some one serve a big God and still suffer? Even Gfs of powerful men don't surfer..

Gfs are connected hence they have supply.

But when Nepa carry their transformer comot for area, songs of complaints and lamentation.

So, it's not about service but about wisdom and understanding and love of good and love of self.

LikeAking:


Which creator?

Your own Creator.

Dtruthspeaker:


Gfs are connected hence they have supply.

But when Nepa carry their transformer comot for area, songs of complaints and lamentation.

So, it's not about service but about wisdom and understanding and love of good and love of self.

Dem no born nepa well to carry chairman gf transformer...

Christians suppose get an advantage in life, that's my point...

But there is none..