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Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by DeepSight(m): 5:15am On Nov 02, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And no man exists who, repenting, thenceforward proceeds without ever sinning again. That is impossible. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 5:17am On Nov 02, 2022 |
DeepSight:I am afraid what you are guilty of here is committing an out-of-context fallacy, essentially presenting an invalid argument as if valid. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by DeepSight(m): 5:18am On Nov 02, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: And what you are guilty of, dear parent hater, is spewing words with no meaning. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 5:26am On Nov 02, 2022 |
DeepSight:Stop getting carried away by what is soundbite Christianity. It's all falsehood with no real substance to it!. Ignoring the intended audience for a second, of the letter attributed to Paul, the writer of the epistle, if you carefully examine that verse in context, you will immediately see how your conclusion is invalid since Paul in fact states that in Jesus Christ, the people are made righteous in God. 21 But God has a way to make people right, and it has nothing to do with the law. He has now shown us that new way, which the law and the prophets told us about.Now, who are the people Paul claims are made right by the Law that is Jesus Christ? Well, according to verse 24, they are those who are made righteous by their acceptance of the gift that is grace(Eternal life) and they are none other than the Jewish believers, the former sinners of God's Old Law whom Jesus Christ came to call, who are redeemed from the debt they owe to God's old Covenant by their receipt of Eternal life from Jesus Christ - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Yes, the very people who Paul indicates were all sinners, fallen short of God's goodness are declared to have been made right by their transition from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant, Jesus Christ, this is what Paul revealed. Now, in case you doubt the audience of the passage indicated above which you carelessly lifted a verse out-of-context from to assert the truth of what is in fact an invalid conclusion, then I suggest you take a look at the preceding passage where Paul indicated the audience of that piece. 9 So are we Jews better than other people? No, we have already said that those who are Jews, as well as those who are not Jews, are the same. They are all guilty of sin.The Law of Moses, the National Constitution as far as those who are of the blood of Jacob, which is cited in the passage above, applies only to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, the Jews - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - establishing the audience of the message contained in this and the passage that follows where the same law is also cited. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by kennyz247(m): 5:50am On Nov 02, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:and Lazarus in the Bible was doing what to the richman ? |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 6:05am On Nov 02, 2022 |
kennyz247:Good question! Sadly, the story of Lazarus and the rich man, like several of the other parables told by Jesus Christ is not based on facts as it is after all a parable. Apart from Lazarus being a beggar, the dead in the parable were conscious and even living other lives when they were supposed to be either perished or asleep in the grave, Hell(a place of fire) existed in the place where the righteous descendants of Abraham are suggested to go when they die even when God never indicated such in His Old Covenant. These along with other notable issues are meant to reveal to the reader that the story is in fact not based on truth but fiction, even though the lesson attached is meant to teach the Truth of the Kingdom of God. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Dtruthspeaker: 6:06am On Nov 02, 2022 |
kennyz247: Just as the wise thief on the cross who made it to paradise, it is an exception and not the rule. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by kennyz247(m): 7:11am On Nov 02, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:what about job |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 7:15am On Nov 02, 2022 |
kennyz247:Job is not recorded to have begged for food, or what to wear, and he even had the confidence in God to boot, instead of trauma, panic, fear, and anxiety that typically follows people through their struggles. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by kennyz247(m): 2:31pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:what about Ruth |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 2:47pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
kennyz247:Job was listed as a righteous man. Was Ruth listed as a righteous woman? |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by kennyz247(m): 5:47pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:she was,read the Bible... my point is,who go get money for this life go get, irrespective of u been righteous or not.. the righteous get rich likewise the sinners too .....I chose to bless who I want to bless no be by power.. if been blessed or rich is by righteousness, Nigerian for be one of the richest country in the world,and most of the European countries would have been the poorest |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 5:54pm On Nov 03, 2022 |
kennyz247:1. Where is it stated that she was a righteous woman. These things are not meant to be assumed. 2. Your rules as far as life have absolutely nothing to do with that which God has stipulated only applies to the righteous. So your claim is invalid by the fact of that. 3. You commit an out-of-context Fallacy when you lift a verse out-of-context to assert a meaning different from that intended by the source, again, rendering your argument invalid. Also, this is nothing about being rich or being poor. But about a guarantee given by the Almighty to those who belong to Him, promising that He will provide their needs no matter what. Since you seem to think here that God is a liar, you have to provide better evidence for the assertions you make against His promise. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by kennyz247(m): 10:43am On Nov 04, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:make I see the mansion u don build as a righteous man |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by Kobojunkie: 1:30pm On Nov 04, 2022 |
kennyz247:Why does a righteous man need to build a mansion first? Did Jesus Christ, Himself a righteous man, build a mansion first before God was able to meet His needs? The way some of you resolve these things of God does not fail to astound. |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by MITCHELL96: 5:31pm On Nov 06, 2022 |
Re: How God Can Grant Your Heart Desires by jayjayjones: 9:16am On Nov 08, 2022 |
MITCHELL96:Alright, all the best brother. |
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