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atutupoyoyo2211:
I am a Nigerian based In Canada. I dont think Nigeria is nearing collapse. I just feel people are just tired of putting in the same amount of work and not getting anything in return. My dad is a professor in Nigeria and has been in the university for 35 years. His monthly salary is about 500k naira a month. I am a instructor at a college in Canada, joined the college January this year. I make an equivalent of almost $8k a month after taxes. This is the problem with Nigeria. Once I get my PhD, I will be earning close to $15k a month. And I am 36 years, my dad is almost 70 years. This is the reason for Japa.

please bro just assist me any way you can i want to start poultry business please i come to you in weakness.
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cooooooks:
Nna calculate na.

There is nothing to "call out".

Thank you.

E mean say you no wan share the full figures be dat. Thanks anyway.

Munamoqel:
nearing collapse ? 500 bn USD economy the largest in Africa bigger than eypt south Africa and Algeria and top FDI and FPI investment destination . Nearing collapse and MTN just raise 100m USD for network expansion .nearing collapse and the FDI lekki 3 bn USD port is ready .nearing collapse the America embassy is building 550m USD embassy in Eko Atlantic .nearing collapse Nigeria student form the 3 largest student population in uk this year .una just van validate the 2 class citizens life una dey live abroad . ( Self consolation )

Correct analysis, my guy. A chilled Gulder for you.

Someone once described living in the West as this: IT GIVES AN ILLUSION OF WEALTH TO CONCEAL POVERTY.
A very accurate description for many Africans in Europe, USA and Canada.

sonnie10:
You that you are in Nigeria, why haven’t you opened a business that is similar to Amazon and make that money that is plentiful in Nigeria

What are you saying

Gerrard59:
While I agree, I find it extremely odd that till date, Nigerians are not a major entrepreneurial bloc in the UK. There are Indian and Pakistanis born and bred in the UK who are multi-millionaires and even billionaires but not a single Nigerian. Yet tomorrow, some newspapers will chant that nIgErIaNs aRe eNtErPrIsInG pEoPlE.

Lolzzzs...

descarado:
Indians before colonisation was a very rich country. Uk met them extremely rich and plundered them to oblivion. They just bounced back and is taking over their initial spots in world politics. Pakistan and India were one before.

We wil talk about different nations in Nigeria before colonisation after the election and where they were with civilisation. Nigerians going to uk or abroad still have the average Nigerian mentality we display at hone which is show off.

Kenyans are taking over the sport after India in uk.
Indians are united, will circulate info that will benefit them but see a Nigerian showing what to do to excell, its very impossible. You rather hear from Indians or other African countries. Indians start grooming their children as soon as they are born. We are busy with owambe, feminism and back biting. How can you groom your kids when more than half of the Nigerian population are divorced because they want to be fake oyibos? Custody battle and busy trying to get the kids to hate the other parent. Others have moved on.

Lolzzzs...

TWoods:
Just more word salad… a cursory read of your posts and it’s clear this is your MO with other folks like justwise and Ednut.

I make what you make a year in a few weeks… my 2 best friends from college in naija are in high ranking jobs at chevron and BASF US. See, I can use 3 of us as “living proof” that a life in America is far superior to the life you live in the hellhole called Nigeria.

Your reluctance to answer my questions speak volumes. You won the birth lottery and think you can lecture everyone… good luck when you get any health issue beyond malaria. If you had the brain you delude yourself into thinking you have, go back and ask why you pay income tax and yet have to provide your own basic utilities. You own an inverter/generator, you build your borehole, fire service is basically nonexistent, no healthcare… and the dunce thinks an inverter is all there is to life? take a seat young man.

If you can't make it in Nigeria doesn't mean another person can't...

Munamoqel:
did you know him to reach that conclusion that your weekly income is =to this yearly or you just be silly like most Japarains do to feel fulfilled .

Lolzzzz

Bksense:
Where will you see $15M ? LoL. Another delusion about abroad. There's no guarantee anyone can amass up to $500k even working for 45yrs

Lol but what do you want to do with $15m ? Most people earn enough to live a good life and go for vacations and there is a close gap between the rich and average, so in essence…having that amount of money won’t make happy automatically because people are already living a good life with God’s help.

elijah101:
U know how much inverter cost … u go use Ac … use fridge … use other small small things u dey compare inverter to normal light … even if na solar sef … normal light still better pass am … 100

Light na free for abroad?

Treadway:
see what I mean, does inverter translate to solar and must the setup be mega! Jeezuz! I don tire o...lol. ok guy, you can set up an inverter that will last you 3-4days to watch TV, power fan for you to sleep pretty at night,and lighting (with energy saving bulbs) to go about your activities all for under 200k even as things cost now. How much more before now and the many ppl that have set it up. I haven't even incorporated solar to mine cos the current setup is still okay for me. Why are you jumping straight to the millions millions setup Hehehe. O GA oo

Elijah if you want to buy a car now, will you only consider a 2022 range rover OR a car that you can afford that can get you from point a to b without issues. Cmon man! Well I have shared what i want to share with you, if you get it fine, if not it's all good. Cheers

No mind them ... Na to bad mouth everything about the country dem sabi

gaby:
Such a sad and painful reality my dear brother.

Our leaders are extremely selfish. Imagine Ekweremadu with no known job outside pilitics in the past 20 years, with more than 40 houses.
They deserve to be shot for destroying the country.

Treadway:
see now, you have also dropped an ignorant claim. Internet is more expensive in the US, UK, Canada and Australia, and I'm talking from direct experience of two of those countries and from friends in the other two countries. Not people using WiFi at work o, I'm talking about prepaid internt plans. They are far far more expensive. Shey you go argue that one too.

People can't pay for starlink here sef

Most Nigerians can easily build their houses?
Lmao. Which nigeria? The one where more than half the population is surviving on less than a dollar a day? Shey you dey whine me ni?

Creamcrest:
Sharrap, Nigeria is not nearing collapse,it's still one of the best countries on earth.

Nigerians in Canada and America are even complaining of not being able to build wealth.

Shootings and gun violence also happens in America and Canada.

Some Nigerians here have 24hrs power using inverters and solar.

Most Nigerians can easily build their houses while you niggas in canada and US will be paying for mortgages for several years.

Intellectuall01:
Don't mind them. Na who nor get family members abroad na such person them dey deceive. I have 7 siblings abroad. Na only two get their own houses when them buy. The rest are still paying rent.

Though they all have good jobs but bills dey collect almost everything and they are complaining of too much workload. They wish they can accumulate wealth and retire the 9 to 5 type of life.

A month ago, a lady slept in the UK and didn't wake up. She died due to stress from work. If one can make money in Nigeria, life sweet for here pass abroad abeg.

As for me, I cannot relocate abroad, na only visit I dey visit.

Hmmm

Munamoqel:
how you want rest when hair cut na 20 USD baby care na 500 USD , insurance na 200 USD to drive rent na 1500 USD . mortgage na 2k for 25 years .child support ,divorce litigation .IHS , park fee , University loans .the bese na endless ! But oyinbo don inherit houses from Papa so no morgagate or rent payment .that already 2k per month off .

They don't inherit house?

Munamoqel:
there is PTDF scholarship ,Stem scholarships and if I want to sponsor his Master is will be in STEM courses .I will just buy 5m naira land now and sell in 10 year time to pay his Msc tution and living support .he not going to be wash plates ! They are tution free in Germany and Norway

Well. People dey make am big time for naija, same abroad. So whatever works for every individual is fine

I fail to understand your viewpoint.

Did I complain to anybody that being here, my standard of living is low? As long as I work and earn a living, the life I live isn't any different from that of a Canadian.

maasoap:
That's exactly what he's talking about. Without converting your income into Naira, you guys still wouldn't feel fulfilled with your income in abroad. You should be able to measure your overall standard of living and income in the environment where you find yourself.

Regardless of what people say

Living in NIGERIA can NEVER be better than living abroad.
Forget story
It's okay for us to just be living in Nigeria and managing ourselves; taking the country as we see it; but anyone deluded into thinking this country good; especially in the current state Buhari has brought it to
Is a JOKER

AreaFada2:
Dude, never advice this group of people:
1-A random bad mannered swearing Nairalander about life abroad
2-A yahoo guy that yahoo is not good
3-A girl addicted to useless wayward boys.

Number 1 above is filled with resentment for anyone abroad. He would brag about how he is balling in 9ja and you are washing corpses abroad. Yet his foul words betrays someone seriously unhappy with his life.

Around 10-15 years ago, some people in 9ja will just be saying how they just bought a new car, how they have everything in 9ja, how they blow their gen all night with AC and no need to travel broad or variations of it to say how well off in 9ja they are. I was wondering why say all this? I never told you anything about my life abroad, how good or bad it is compared to yours. Why do I need to know how well off you are?.

I just gradually withdrew from them so as not to say anything to annoy anyone.
Fast forward: In the last 5 years or so, same people are asking how they can relocate abroad, for their kids' sake, insecurity, bala, bla bla.

You have said it all

Satazaa:
good bro, and added to that is that you put up with punishing tax payment that makes nonsense of your pay and you are just making enough to make ends meet, let me tell you all those guys that send money to naija are either into fraud or if you work legitimately you have to starve yourself to be able to send money home, how many people in naija do you see doing odd jobs in three places just to survive, haba, if you have capital stay in naija, make money buy your comfort, use solar, use strong SUV, get nannies, dig your borehole etc I have seen countless guys travel and come back to naija only to meet thier old friends living in thier homes with other properties as rent, and they are like WOW UNBELIEVABLE

This thing even happens to I dey lagos people sef

ariesbull:
that is a big lie... But wait a minute

Living 11 in three bedroom... You for tell me say na face me I face you dey stay...

Oga citizens never save upto 10k na you wey be immigrant...

Abeg na credit card levels dem dey use buga after they pay their gbese...

why are you so quick to look for a way to insult me than see the reason of the argument ?

And if I stay in a “face me I face you”, what is your business? Am I living my life to please you ? is that the gist of the matter or you can’t comprehend english language?

I live in California and I have seen Latino immigrants who work without work permit or social security live as crowds in small apartments- they don’t want to live in a nice place because it’s very expensive and their goal is to save as much money as they can because they don’t know the day they will be deported so they want to save as much as possible

they send all their money they work to mexico or guatemala… so if they rent a beat up 3 bedroom apartment for like $1,100 a month in a slum area - guess what ? if they are 11 - they can split the rent to be $100 per person per month

so if they are earning low wages like $1,700 a month working undocumented jobs in a construction site, they can afford to save $800-$1000 each every months - and in a year they can save up to $10,000 each - that’s where am talking from

as a Nigerian you can’t live like that - No Nigerian will want to live like that in America - so if you have that kind job of $1,700 as a Nigerian - by the time you pay full rent of $800 as a new immigrant your money is finished - as other bills will eat the rest


that’s my argument before u brought up attacks on me like say na me decree poverty on your life

Guy, if na hungry dey beat u go find food chop no be me be your problem


thank you

What's the contradiction abeg?

If I buy a house here and pay 5% down, it's my choice. Will I live under the bridge or will I build the house in Nigeria and go from there to work here? Do I want to keep paying one landlord $2500 monthly as rent when I can buy a house and pay that $2500 monthly as part of my repayment?

Lekan239:
omo u just said 5percent of the money required to buy a house over there will build a comfortable house in Nigeria. And you are still saying over there is better than Nigeria. Stop contradicting yourself abeg

Skyview01:
Our leaders are extremely selfish. Imagine Ekweremadu with no known job outside pilitics in the past 20 years, with more than 40 houses.
They deserve to be shot for destroying the country.

One can't help but fail at every attempt at being hopeful for a better country.

So effing negotiating and a hopeless situation.

I feel sorry for the poor citizens...

I used to have same feelings until I had a feel of the abroad thing. You can live a comfortable live on the minimum wage doing 40hrs a week work but I doubt if anyone with the minimum wage in Nigeria can live a comfortable live without being at the mercy of the rich. You are sure of world class education for your kids and the quality of life is priceless. If you have the means to Japaa legally, do not hesitate for a sec. Naija will be great again.

Primusinterpares:
Maybe true. But can you compare the taxes you pay over there and the one you pay here?
What about the fees?

In all our 9ja kids still got brains more than some of these western kids...

Lie. Oga, wake up. Na stereotype. The world has left Nigerian kids behind.

Honestly yes. I left Nigeria since 2009 to united state of America, and now the difference is clear. Brothers and sisters, if you have the opportunity to leave that country.leave oooh.
Ama special advisor on America visa. My Facebook account is political pastor.



post=117984178]So lately I have seen friends, families, colleagues at work, church members relocating abroad.
These people are "doing well" here in Nigeria.
Many of them resign from their high paying jobs, sells their properties and put up to like 25 - 40 million naira to relocate a family of say 5.
Is it really worth it?
Can't we make a good living here in Nigeria especially people with a good job here?
I need clarifications from those that have gone to enlighten me.[/quote]

elijah101:
Then why are you pushing for people to stay back in a place with a bad system … Nigeria is only for making money … not to raise a family … truth is u will make the most money in Nigeria if them share u the secret … but thats what nigeria is good for … making money out of the ignorant bunch … and giving your family better shot at the good things life has to offer … its just one life ooo ..enjoy life oooo… enjoy comfort … comfort is not that expensive in some places ooo … only in Nigeria

Oga he is not trying to push ppl not to travel, he is trying to disclaim the guy bogus claims. But for real why will a person spend 7 to 8 millions to go to a country like UK when you are not medically or IT related inclined, to me that is a waste of fund, basically, u can use that money to set up a biz here that can keep u comfortable, as time goes on u can build normal houz, buy a normal car. I know alot of men that sent dia kids to sch abroad with proceeds from regular buying and selling in regular Nigerian market. Nawadays kids don't want to break a sweat.

Creamcrest:
Sharrap, Nigeria is not nearing collapse,it's still one of the best countries on earth.

Nigerians in Canada and America are even complaining of not being able to build wealth.

Shootings and gun violence also happens in America and Canada.

Some Nigerians here have 24hrs power using inverters and solar.

Most Nigerians can easily build their houses while you niggas in canada and US will be paying for mortgages for several years.

Most Nigerians can build their houses. You don't know the meaning of most clearly

Munamoqel:
nearing collapse ? 500 bn USD economy the largest in Africa bigger than eypt south Africa and Algeria and top FDI and FPI investment destination . Nearing collapse and MTN just raise 100m USD for network expansion .nearing collapse and the FDI lekki 3 bn USD port is ready .nearing collapse the America embassy is building 550m USD embassy in Eko Atlantic .nearing collapse Nigeria student form the 3 largest student population in uk this year .una just van validate the 2 class citizens life una dey live abroad . ( Self consolation )

Keep telling yourself nonsense. The budget of London Ontario is more than Nigeria's total budget.

When it comes to money Nigeria is broke and the system is nearly Collapsed. No power, poor education, majority of Nigerians live in abject poverty and insecurity is an all time high.

Munamoqel:
Nigeria is a very strange Nation .this year I made around 7m from been insurance agent . It started from a oil and gas firm that wanted to do GIT insurance and the owner contacted me ! I contacted some insurance firm I was familiar with and they agree to take underwrite the policy .I jokely ask if they are paying me commission .they said yes . a large insurance firm agree 15 percent .second 10 .na so e happen . 2 week later several oil and gas logistics firm contacted me via referrals from the first . Baam I have done 13 firm counting . It yearly and renewable and my commission will paid yearly too . This is Nigeria a land of magical opportunities . This just a side unplanned business . Don't let any body tell you it nearing collapse . Those Indians and Chinese will not be here . Lastly zero tax on this commission/income. Unlike Uk yeye tax people go they chase me.up.and down

Typical Nigerian we should celebrate that you don't pay taxes. How will the government build schools , roads and other amenities?

7m naira is just about 10000usd , many Nigerians abroad make 10x this amount

Jackofalltrade:
Ko ni da fun e

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