Jokers

So my question remains, and just like Pope Francis alluded

WHY WAS NEGOTIATIONS SO IMPOSSIBLE BEFORE THE WAR??

Russian demands were clear (They literally asked that a status quo be maintained), what exactly were Ukrainian demand?

shouldn’t a truly wise Ukrainian leader (not that comic poppet/Churchill wannabe called Zelinksy) have used negotiations to get the best of offers (economically) from both the Russia & the west through negotiations instead of war?

THE ONLY party that had benefited from this war is THE UNITED STATES. The US Dollar is literally gang ra*ping all global currencies like never seen in the last 30 years

SenatePresdo:
Hahahaha Everybody Don tire.

If they don't make peace, this war would last 10 years and counting, because pride will never allow Putin to back off.

And Ukraine would be affected most in the long run, Russian citizens are living their lives.

The same Russian citizens they pulled off the streets and threw into the front as cannon fodder? The ones being slaughtered like pigs? The bereaved mothers that Weep daily?

Be like you no understand at all

Cantonese:


"US audio superpower"? And did you read about Iran training Russian pilots? How did it sound to you. With a plan to overrun Ukraine in days, so far we have witnessed months and massive loses on the side of the Russians.

Small pikin dey worry you. Una think say that "invasion", as the mad man put it, na bet9ja. Look, think and make proper judgements.

Overrunning Ukraine in days was not a claim made by the Russians themselves. It was the imagination turned mainstream assertion of the western media. They assumed it was going to be the type of American wars in Syria and Afghanistan where Obama ordered the bombing of schools and hospitals.

You would agree that Russia has shown restraint in this conflict; mainly targeting the military, routinely announcing withdrawal from heavy civilian areas and such other measures.

If they had done what Obama did and what the western media expected them to do by cowardly bombing school girls just to claim superpower, the human toll would have been enormous.

Kingsnairaland:
The collective West wants to create a World in its own image. 15% of the World's population that wants to impose upon the World a failed system controlled by Western elites and multinational corporations.

The West evil desires will fail.

Because 85% of world population are lazy and uninspiring. What they know is religious bigotry and producing babies like pigs. How did fulanis conquer larger hausa population? Stupid leaders from 85% are laundering money in the west.

texazzpete:


Cant be as bad as Putin. Threw his country into a senseless war that has killed and wounded well over a hundred thousand Russian troops, weakened their economy and permanently damaged relations with their European neighbors.

An incompetent, delusional dictator.

Bro, the biggest delusion here is from Zelinksy and the rest of Europe.

How they started this war without estimating the calamity on their respective Economies is laughable.

And yes, they will all loose there elected jobs in their respective polls. UK was the first casualty, Biden is now preparing for the blow back.

Russia was the one sanctioned, but Europe and its economy is bleeding with inflation!

It’s all emotion and noise to stand with Ukraine till the average European can’t afford power bills

alcuin:
Sanctions did not work.

Shit backfired like a MF

porka:


Overrunning Ukraine in days was not a claim made by the Russians themselves. It was the imagination turned mainstream assertion of the western media. They assumed it was going to be the type of American wars in Syria and Afghanistan where Obama ordered the bombing of schools and hospitals.

You would agree that Russia has shown restraint in this conflict; mainly targeting the military, routinely announcing withdrawal from heavy civilian areas and such other measures.

If they had done what Obama did and what the western media expected them to do by cowardly bombing school girls just to claim superpower, the human toll would have been enormous.

You have not been following Russian media. Prediction was 3days to 2 weeks. RA entered kiev oblast in 2 weeks. Putin was not expecting rapid response from west. They were expecting to welcome them with flowers. Please try to follow Russian channels and use google translator.

Vladimir Putin!!! Their fada!!!!!

Teaser4:
Most Eastern European countries are poor compared to the West, it’s a no brainer

There is no country in Europe with 70m population that is poor let alone Russia's 160m population.

Do well to mention a country in Europe with over 100m population thats poor, I am waiting.

brandmix:


Bro, the biggest delusion here is from Zelinksy and the rest of Europe.

How they started this war without estimating the calamity on their respective Economies is laughable.

And yes, they will all loose there elected jobs in their respective polls. UK was the first casualty, Biden is now preparing for the blow back.

Russia was the one sanctioned, but Europe and its economy is bleeding with inflation!

It’s all emotion and noise to stand with Ukraine till the average European can’t afford power bills

Can you explain how Zelensky started this war?

It's better to be a Coward and stay alive than to die trying to be a hero.

It's time the whole western nations to call that little rat Zelensky to order and caution him, they can't go into 3rd WW because of one small country.
Zelensky's ego and pride has caused so much economic crisis to the world.

fablani:
You see this America, after they pushed him to suicide mission by fighting Russia. Now they have turned around to the way of negotiation.
Why then is the war in the first place when they know they will seek for negotiation after all this monumental loss.

Is always good to use your sense and advise yourself instead of relying on people advice.
Now, is a lose-lose for Ukrainian citizens

Ukraine lost, Russia lost a bit,USA and it's allies lost,but the military industrial complex made massive gains from this conflict

uniquetechng:
There is no country in Europe with 70m population that is poor let alone Russia's 160m population.

Do well to mention a country in Europe with over 100m population thats poor, I am waiting.

which avenue you con open now, my initial statement was that “Most Eastern European countries are poor compared to the Western part of Europe “ which is a statement of fact, I didn’t mention population in my initial post. You was in Russia in 2013, i was in Russia
recently, I visited mostly the Eastern European countries. I mean before the War



Most Eastern European countries are poor compared to the Western part of Europe I stand by my initial statement, pls don’t shift goal post if I want to go deeper I’d have done that in my initially post.

If you response won’t counter the points I made above, there’s no point having this conversation. Have a good morning.

Adios !!!

SenatePresdo:
Hahahaha Everybody Don tire.

If they don't make peace, this war would last 10 years and counting, because pride will never allow Putin to back off.

And Ukraine would be affected most in the long run, Russian citizens are living their lives.

Russia a 3rd world country right now same goes to Ukraine. so who's loosing both

Quelme:
US audio superpower!

Putin dey put am for terrorist NATO body wotowoto. Na Ukraine I pity pass, Lugansk and Donetsk gone forever plus infrastructure and lives lost for a very unnecessary Zelensky/NATO proxy war against mother Rossiya.

Your just an imbecille. EMPTY brain. if USA could support Afghanistan for 20 years, who's Ukraine?

Zelensky doesn't want to listen to Putin at all, weda he has good or bad negotiation, all he wants is to leave his country. simple. so stop being dumb and read the war not by one opinion

Bentonite1:





Russia a 3rd world country right now same goes to Ukraine. so who's loosing both

The 11th economy in the world

The 6th GDP PPP in the world

Is a third world country? Are you saying America is a third world country?

Bentonite1:





Russia a 3rd world country right now same goes to Ukraine. so who's loosing both

lmao, that na pure and undiluted fallacy

SenatePresdo:
Hahahaha Everybody Don tire.

If they don't make peace, this war would last 10 years and counting, because pride will never allow Putin to back off.

And Ukraine would be affected most in the long run, Russian citizens are living their lives.

Correct your phrase Russia is no longer holding any Ukrainian territories, they already annexed part of the Russian speaking region in Ukraine to become Russia federation that’s the only areas they are defending currently, so they left other region n be lunching attacks with drones at the end of the day Ukraine is the only country losing in this war it will be difficult for Ukraine to reclaim it annexed region

Elvictor:


The 11th economy in the world

The 6th GDP PPP in the world

Is a third world country? Are you saying America is a third world country?

I don Laff taya wen I saw the comments, country wey dey control quite percentages of the world’s vital resources, Abi cnn dey show em something we don’t know ni cos I don’t understand. Russsia makes more money selling her resources during the war, more than peace time, they made and still making shitload of money, their economy is heading out of recession, while most western countries economies are getting ready to dive in….. nothing wey musa no go see for gate sha

Elvictor:


The 11th economy in the world

The 6th GDP PPP in the world

Is a third world country? Are you saying America is a third world country?

OP you mean GDP before or after Ukraine war?

How many companies pulled out Russia?
and sanction which Putin is begging for it be uplifted haha...

You know Sanction doesn't come in play immediately, but after the war you will understand haha...

almost all the countries that pulled also reached agreement to pay their workers in Russia for 6 months mass, currently it has stopped, they will all understand by next year. watch out

texazzpete:


Can you explain how Zelensky started this war?

First and foremost, Zelinksy is living what I call a “Harrison Ford”/ Winston Churchill fantasy at the expense of the lives of his people.

He reminds me of Aturo in the series Money Heist. Someone emotionally manipulative, entitled, actor, hell bent on the theatrical “going out guns blazing”

A smart leader does not sacrifice the lives of his people as a pawn for a shadow war with Russia and the US. That is just stupidity.

What he does is negotiate and get the best (which he would have gotten) from both parties.

Lastly, is Putin a saint? HELL NO. But what I can’t stand is the west hypocrisy when Putin pulls a card from their own playbook.

Abrahamweb:

Ukraine lost, Russia lost a bit,USA and it's allies lost,but the military industrial complex made massive gains from this conflict

US lost nothing.

Go look at the dollar strength against ALL currencies

Bentonite1:




OP you mean GDP before or after Ukraine war?

How many companies pulled out Russia?
and sanction which Putin is begging for it be uplifted haha...

You know Sanction doesn't come in play immediately, but after the war you will understand haha...

almost all the countries that pulled also reached agreement to pay their workers in Russia for 6 months mass, currently it has stopped, they will all understand by next year. watch out

do you know all the western countries still buy Russian oil and gas directly or indirectly?

Do you know Netherlands recently lifted 91 anti Russian sanctions ….

Russia makes more money during the war, than pre-war, that na fact

You’re free to fact check me

justuschi50:
lies, democracy is not compatible in some part of the world. Pls we should stop copying white people if military rule is the best for Africa let it be

So how is military rule working for Mali,? In the space of 5 months two counter military coups,
Please name me one Africa country were a military man is ruling and they are doing well?

Kingsnairaland:

US media reports say administration privately talking to Ukraine president over fears support from some countries may decline


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/06/biden-administration-privately-encouraging-zelensky-show-willingness/?fbclid=IwAR2kgGmLcXjglbiIBlhaUwQle6ir1t7jGiz3jGaU-jE1LpEIIEnUP5scst8

Zelensky is a fool to think the west or Americans will keep sponsoring them in fighting, currently both US and European countries are into crisis and inflation due to the on going war, no government in their right senses will keep financing a war in a foreign soil with their citizens taxpayers money while they allow the citizens paying the tax to be suffering in their own countries, soonest Americans will take to the streets to protest against Biden administration for using their taxpayers money to finance war in Ukraine while millions of Americans are starving homeless and don’t even have a job, Joe Biden has already kissed his second term a goodbye with this kind of move because no Americans will vote him the second time they are not like we Nigerians that blindly support politicians even while they flop in office

Behold the world is gradually coming to their senses that there’s no way they can engage Russia directly because it will end up in Nuclear war and no country will risk putting their citizens on such positions all because of small Ukraine,. I pity those still having such ideology una think say the world go end because of Ukraine make una think well soon everybody go leave Ukraine to face their problem

Teaser4:
do you know all the western countries still buy Russian oil and gas directly or indirectly?

Do you know Netherlands recently lifted 91 anti Russian sanctions ….

Russia makes more money during the war, than pre-war, that na fact

You’re free to fact check me

Worst sense of reasoning I have seen in my lifetime. Isn't Nigeria making trillions on daily basis? where is the money going to? same is happening in Russia. if the funds doesn't add value to the citizens, both poor, it's useless and not worth it.b