TheKingIsHere:
One on one, who do you think will win?

PS: No dragons involved

TheKingIsHere:
One on one, who do you think will win?

PS: No dragons involved

kay9:


Jaime Lannister (with both hands) with beat them ALL. It's not even a contest.

budaatum:


Did Brienne of Tarth not rule them all in character and virtue and spirit and bravery too?

Kicked the butts of them that needed it and those that didn't need it weren't pigs.

TheKingIsHere:


Even against Jon Snow?

TheKingIsHere:


She found it difficult to beat a one handed Jamie (even tho jamie allowed her to win)

kay9:


Please be serious. Jon Snow is probably the LEAST capable swordsman there; the only person he may have a chance against is Aemond Kinslayer.

TheKingIsHere:
One on one, who do you think will win?

PS: No dragons involved

Barrywhyte1:


The way you guys disrespect Jon snow is crazy.

Dude has the best feats of all of them if you ask me.

Only Jaime Lannister I'd rate higher than him.

Remember when Ramsay said "the way northern people talk about you bastard, it's like you're the greatest swordman that's ever lived".

Dude had a growing reputation in westeros already.

Barrywhyte1:


The way you guys disrespect Jon snow is crazy.

Dude has the best feats of all of them if you ask me.

Only Jaime Lannister I'd rate higher than him.

Remember when Ramsay said "the way northern people talk about you bastard, it's like you're the greatest swordman that's ever lived".

Dude had a growing reputation in westeros already.

kay9:


What "growing reputation"? GOT is over. Nothing is growing anywhere.

Jon Snow was a great, honorable man, a true "son" of the great Ned. He was a wonderful leader, and one of the bravest men Westeros had even seen. But honor and bravery is not the same as swordsmanship, not matter how much we wish it.

At his prime, the greatest foes Jon faced where his poorly trained black brothers, even worse poorly trained wildlings, and white walkers - and he had valyrian steel which is complete cheat mode against white walkers.

The one real test of skill Jon faced was when he was younger against Qhorin Halfhand, and even Jon himself admits that Qhorin let him win. At that age, Jaime Lannister was already an established master swordsman and Barristan Selmy was already storming castles all by himself. Jon is a weak, weak comparison.

pu7pl3:


All Jaime's reputation was hear say...we no see any one

pu7pl3:


All Jaime's reputation was hear say...we no see any one

kay9:


What "growing reputation"? GOT is over. Nothing is growing anywhere.

Jon Snow was a great, honorable man, a true "son" of the great Ned. He was a wonderful leader, and one of the bravest men Westeros had even seen. But honor and bravery is not the same as swordsmanship, not matter how much we wish it.

At his prime, the greatest foes Jon faced where his poorly trained black brothers, even worse poorly trained wildlings, and white walkers - and he had valyrian steel which is complete cheat mode against white walkers.

The one real test of skill Jon faced was when he was younger against Qhorin Halfhand, and even Jon himself admits that Qhorin let him win. At that age, Jaime Lannister was already an established master swordsman and Barristan Selmy was already storming castles all by himself. Jon is a weak, weak comparison.

arantess:

his spin off series will come

TheKingIsHere:


When I saw kay9 post, I just shook my head. The Jon Snow disrespect is massive.

Only Jamie (with both hands) can match or win Jon snow in combat.

TheKingIsHere:


When I saw kay9 post, I just shook my head. The Jon Snow disrespect is massive.

Only Jamie (with both hands) can match or win Jon snow in combat.

kay9:


Disrespect? Lol ..

Even ignoring the books totally, Jon Snow was disarmed by Magnar of Thenn. Compare to what First Sword of Braavos, Syrio Forrel said to Arya about your sword and your arm, and you'll understand what it means for your "one of the greatest" to be disarmed in battle by a wildling that Sandor Clegane will make short work of.

By the end of GoT, King Crow was more battle-hardened and capable enough to hold his own in a melee, but in a class of the greats? Nope.

Go and rewatch Ser Arthur Dayne's fight versus Eddard Stark and his retainers. That's a Great Swordsman looks like.

TheKingIsHere:


It's funny how you forget that Jon Snow fought not just one but two top tier night walkers and WON! You think it is beans to defeat one top night walker?

If you think that was nothing, then I don't have anything else to say to you on this matter

kay9:


I guess you mean WHITE walkers.

Oga, stop displaying ignorance. With valyrian steel or dragonglass, even untrained wildlings can kill white walkers. Why do you think Jon was determined mine at Dragonstone?? You should probably go and check how many white walkers Sam killed before you used them as a yardstick. Or maybe Samwell Tarly a.k.a Sam the Slayer a.k.a Ser Piggy is now also a GREAT SWORDSMAN.

Kaycee7:
The post was talking about fighting in combat with White Walkers, not just killing them. Samwell Tarly killed that White Walker with a sneak attack. Making it sound like he killed it in combat is just disingenuous.

kay9:


I guess you mean WHITE walkers.

Oga, stop displaying ignorance. With valyrian steel or dragonglass, even untrained wildlings can kill white walkers. Why do you think Jon was determined mine at Dragonstone?? You should probably go and check how many white walkers Sam killed before you used them as a yardstick. Or maybe Samwell Tarly a.k.a Sam the Slayer a.k.a Ser Piggy is now also a GREAT SWORDSMAN.

TheKingIsHere:


You're the ignorant one here thinking Jon snow isn't a great swordsman. I don't have time for your clownish argument.

So watch;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqikUZ9hUSY

kay9:


Did you seriously post a video of Jon Snow fighting UNTRAINED Night's Watch RECRUITS as evidence of his "great" swordsmanship?? Chaii

Oberyn Martell, the Viper. Sandor Clegane the Hound. Ser Jaime Lannister the Kingslayer. Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. Any of these men would have wiped the floor with your "great" Jon Snow. If you too lazy to disabuse yourself of your ignorance, sorry.

TheKingIsHere:


LoL, so out of all the minutes, that's all what you saw? Fyi, they're all recruits without battle experience, including Jon Snow at that time, yet Jon bested them all.

If you choose to wallow and drown yourself in your ignorance, it's fine by me.

At least, everyone else can see Jon's swordsmanship from that little clip.

As for Prince Obreyn, we never saw him in battle. Just one on one combat with Sandor Clegane which he lost in the mostly gruesome way imagined, the hound got bested by two women and we are yet to see Jamie Lannister display such swordsmanship in different occasions in the TV show.

pu7pl3:


Jaime never showed it, not even once...
Even people that read the books can't point out one
memorable 1v1 where he showed the level of mastery they always praise him for.

Just hear say.

TheKingIsHere:


He had one fight scene with Ned Stark, it wasn't spectacular but rather boring that's why no one remembers that scene.

I guess the show runners didn't do him justice

TheKingIsHere:
One on one, who do you think will win?

PS: No dragons involved