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SeniorMan715:
How can your father explain it when he was just a pretense among jw, you said on this thread that him and your mother told you and your siblings to lie . How can a true Christian be teaching his children how to be a liar, like father like son shallow people.

Courz:
You who knows better than me, explain it better. What did Jesus mean when he said, Fear not those who kill the body but cannot destroy or Kill the Soul?

SubPlot:
Mark 3:4

Smith's Literal Translation
And he says to them, Is it lawful in the sabbaths to do good, or to do evil? to save a soul, or to kill?

Jesus said "to Save a soul ,or to KILL a SOUL".

Are you that daft?

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry for the late response i was at a cork take party, today is my friend's wedding anniversary.

Please hold your Bible at hand and let's do the digging for spiritual gems!

The Bible is God's message to mankind and it's like a guidebook or manual God gave us. The entire human race are faced with one problem and that's how to know the source of divine guidance, since demons are also disguising as angels of light {2Corinthians 14:11} many books has been written all in the name of Holy scriptures. So God told us what to expect from the source of divine wisdom {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} according to this verses God's Holy Spirit will move round the earth and gathered millions of faithful people in all races, they will become like a global family using the Bible as their guidebook, they will use what they found in God's word to settle all their racial disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their hearts and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

Jesus said there will be falsehood during the endtime as Satan's agents will be serving as prophets {Matthew 7:15} but by their end result you will know them {Matthew 7:16} because those who are truly connected to Christ will be the only one yielding positive results! Matthew 7:17-18

Please let me know if there is any other group claiming Christians that is producing what God said at Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 apart from Jehovah's Witnesses. If there's any other group then we have to consider those feeding them spiritually speaking to ascertain if they're also part of the faithful and discreet slave Jesus foretold during the endtime! Matthew 24:45


Thanks for your time!

Courz:
Typical JW response when they are frustrated and can't answer simple questions. They start insulting. Why are you dodging the question? You don't want to embarrass yourself right? Temple333 said this question gives you JWs tough time to answer. I was expecting you to prove him wrong but From your response, He was absolutely correct. Your fellow JWs even ran away.

I ask again, You who knows better than me and who is not daft like me, explain it better. What did Jesus mean when he said, Fear not those who kill the body but cannot Kill the Soul? While you are cracking your brain to explain, add 1 Peter 3 vs 19 and 20. What are these verses also saying?

Janosky:
New Testament Greek 5590 lexicon is the answer.
Matthew 10:28 = Mark 3:4, screenshots evidences.
A human being can kill a SOUL (living person) but can not destroy the opportunity of a dead soul (person/life of a dead person) to come back to life through the resurrection of the dead promised by Jesus Christ. John 5:28.

Dubious atheist fraudulent Courz deserves a ban on this forum for spewing GIBBERISH to MISLEAD this forum.[right][/right]

Sand2022:
No group. Not even Jehovah's witnesses. Nations today still learn war and fight one another. The prophesy has Jerusalem in mind. It contrast Jerusalem, the Jews to nations, gentiles. So contextually, this is not happening. Perhaps it will happen when God's kingdom come. I can't remember any nation that has ceased from fighting.

If you want to give it a figurative interpretation, then it is open to biased interpretation.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what we call TRUTH but if you feel it's not then keep whatever you know we are OK!

Sand2022:
It's allowed. What matters is morality. When we enter God's kingdom, then we shall get perfect understanding. 1cor 13:8-13

While we can disagree on doctrine, we shouldn't think that God would disqualify another because of doctrine when he accepts the basic teachings of the bible.

Be good brotherly.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is why you can't be my brother but neighbour because you won't agree with the basic teachings of the Bible!

Sand2022:
Which one do I not agree?

Sand2022:
Which one do I not agree?

Courz:
Typical JW response when they are frustrated and can't answer simple questions. They start insulting. Why are you dodging the question? You don't want to embarrass yourself right? Temple333 said this question gives you JWs tough time to answer. I was expecting you to prove him wrong but From your response, He was absolutely correct. Your fellow JWs even ran away.

I ask again, You who knows better than me and who is not daft like me, explain it better. What did Jesus mean when he said, Fear not those who kill the body but cannot Kill the Soul?

Courz:
While you are cracking your brain to explain, add 1 Peter 3 vs 19 and 20. What are these verses also saying?

SubPlot:

Mark 3:4

Smith's Literal Translation
And he says to them, Is it lawful in the sabbaths to do good, or to do evil? to save a soul, or to kill?
Greek lexicon 5590.....
Courz Iti bolibo pro max.



Is Greek 5590 Soul @ 1 Peter 3 vs 19 and 20?

Wahala for iti bolibo pro max.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus Christ is God's only begotten Son through whose teaching man must be saved! John 3:16

Sand2022:
I agree. That's basic.

Courz:
Idiot! Your quoting of Greek bla bla bla won't save you. Explain these verses below let me see.

Is Greek lexicon 5590 soul @ Matthew 10:28 & Mark 3 :4?
Yes.

Does Greek lexicon 5590 meaning the same thing @ Mark 3:4 & Matthew 10:28?
Yes.
Mark 3:4,Jesus PROVEN that Men can kill a soul on Sabbath & as well save a soul on Sabbath.

Is there Greek lexicon 5590 @ 1Peter3:18-19?
No.
This, first evidence that Courz is a LIAR.

Why would JWs explain 1 Peter 3:18-19 to an atheist already PROVEN to have been LYING about 1 Peter 3:18-19?

Is Courz ready to learn the meaning of 1 Peter 3:18-19 from JWs he calls "idiot"?

I say it again:
"By any standard,Courz is not wise.

Janosky:
Is Greek lexicon 5590 soul @ Matthew 10:28 & Mark 3 :4?
Yes.

Does Greek lexicon 5590 meaning the same thing @ Mark 3:4 & Matthew 10:28?
Yes.
Mark 3:4,Jesus PROVEN that Men can kill a soul on Sabbath & as well save a soul on Sabbath.

Is there Greek lexicon 5590 @ 1Peter3:18-19?
No.
This, first evidence that Courz is a LIAR.

Why would JWs explain 1 Peter 3:18-19 to an atheist already PROVEN to have been LYING about 1 Peter 3:18-19?

Is Courz ready to learn the meaning of 1 Peter 3:18-19 from JWs he calls "idiot"?

I say it again:
"By any standard,Courz is not wise.

Courz:
I knew that was your other moniker.
Idiot! Your quoting of Greek bla bla bla won't save you. Explain these verses below let me see.

SubPlot:

Mark 3:4
Smith's Literal Translation
And he says to them, Is it lawful in the sabbaths to do good, or to do evil? to save a soul, or to kill?
Greek lexicon 5590.....
Courz Iti bolibo pro max.

Is Greek 5590 Soul @ 1 Peter 3 vs 19 and 20?
Wahala for iti bolibo pro max.

MaxInDHouse:
Despicable idiot!

What did your new teachers say about the verse or let's say what did you feel is the meaning?

MaxInDHouse:
A SOUL is the CHARACTER.

When God destroyed evildoers in Noah's days it was written:

"Eight souls were saved" 1Peter 3:20

Yet God still refer to other creatures as soul @ Numbers 31:28

This is so because when you have a domestic pet that soul (character) is what you cherish not it's body, imagine someone killed your sheep and offer to buy you another that look exactly like the one killed, will you be OK with such a replacement? Surely you will be OK with such a replacement if it's the meat (body) that you need but when talking about the character (soul) you won't accept it because you know what your pet is capable of doing and you don't know if the replacement can be better.

That's why God referred to just eight humans in Noah's ark as "SOULS" {1Peter 3:20} whereas there are many living creatures in the Ark! Well it's Noah and his family that are CHARACTERS cherished by God when all other creatures in the Ark are like replacements for those destroyed in the flood.

MaxInDHouse:
So what do you think about Jesus being the "Prince of Peace" {Isaiah 9:6} yet there are over 41,000 of sects in contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines {Luke 11:23} all claiming denominations under Christ {2Corinthians 4:4} and not only that they're all engaging in politics, racism and military services which leads them into killing one another {Revelations 6:3-4} yet they're claiming they believe in Jesus' coming government (Kingdom) Matthew 6:10

Courz:
Big Fool! Look at the rubbish you typed. Which one is Soul is the character, body is the Meat? Where did you get such rubbish from? Where is it in the Bible that souls are characters? You didn't even show Bible verses to prove this nonsense! You JWs are very bad in explaining your doctrines. How on earth is it proper to use Guesswork to explain verses? Foolish Janosky said one thing, you are saying another showing your answers are not consistent and also shows you JWs are very confused people.

Let's replace Soul with Character. So, what you're saying is Jesus meant that, Fear not those who kill the meat but cannot kill the Character. Fear the one who kills both Meat and Character.

Mad MaxInDHouse, does the above sentence look like something coming from a sane person to you? Does this look like what is written in the Bible? Show me from the Bible where it says Soul is the Character.

Sand2022:
JWs teach that soul is a person. That is actually true from my understanding. Perhaps the guy doesn't understand what JWs teach or he himself has his own understanding of the meaning of a soul.

Using that understanding it wouldn't go against the fact that the souls asked for their blood to be avenged. The soul in that book of Revelation would represent the righteous persons that had arisen to heaven.

As for the spirits in prison. There are differences of opinions here. One school of thought says is refers to the spirits of the humans killed by the flood, while another says it refers to the fallen angels who disobeyed during the time of Noah.

Which one makes sense to you and why?

Sand2022:
There are various reasons that make that happen. Some form churches when no one called them, no appearance by God's angel, no inspired direction for a ministry. They just open a church to make money or for other reasons best known to them. Others open church because of wrong understanding of the bible. They are sincere, but wrong understanding of the bible led them to form the church. It doesn't matter the reason, Jesus says that in the harvest, he will collect from the word any whose service is ok in his sight. Till then, we worship God in spirit and truth till the day of reckoning. Worship of God knows no building or church name, but the heart.

But one has to obey the basic teachings of the bible. But we shouldn't judge who will or who will not make it, only God can decide that. Because if you want to talk about doctrine, logically a teaching might make sense, but be humble to accept this truth; unless you have an inspired direction, you cannot be sure of which persons doctrine is right or wrong. There are exceptions, yes, but unless God tells you, you may be wrong but you think you're right in a teaching. The history of JWs should even prove that point.

Sand2022:
JWs teach that soul is a person. That is actually true from my understanding. Perhaps the guy doesn't understand what JWs teach or he himself has his own understanding of the meaning of a soul.

MaxInDHouse:
All creatures are souls based on how related they are to others but the character is what God values!
You can destroy a person's body giving him no chance to continue living but you can't erase the character from God's memory! Matthew 10:28
So while all of us are growing old and expiring many are forgotten to rotten in their graves {Psalms 9:17} while some are safely kept in God's memory book for a chance to live again! Job 14:13-15