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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:06pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Russia withdrawing my foot grin
Russia just captured IVANGRAD in the Artyomov direction grin
Even pull out of Kherson is textbook. They still there! And more over Barkmut is almost falling into the hands of the Russians grin

Bro, stop lying, Russians hasn't made any gains for over 3 months,
Please the so call amagadon general, was in Russian TV and declared that Russian force's are moving out of Kherson,
You are here claiming they are still there' grin
Please attached to your reply with Prof that Russia has made any gains in over 3 months,
Go to telegram and see pro Putin criticizing the pull out

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:06pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Who is busy offering peace terms? Is it Russia? Did Russia tell u dey are tired of fighting? grin
They’ve left Kiev in darkness to freeze by December ending. Who is winning now? grin

Power will be restored to Kyiv pretty soon.

But i can see the depths you people have fallen to. From counting victories in settlements captured, you're now settled for counting the number if civilians temporarily inconvenienced.

And yes, there's growing war fatigue in Russia. Go and ask the mothers of the mobilized troops if they want their kids to still be fighting Putin's senseless war.

Ukraine isn't offering peace terms. This story is false. They want to hammer Russia even more on the battlefield so when they come to the table, they'll come like beaten dogs.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by orisa37: 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2022
UKRAINE, FINLAND, NORWAY AND TURKEY ARE RIGHT FOR STRENGTHENING NATO.
RUSSIA IS UP TO NO GOOD. PUTIN IS THE MADMAN HERE. TELL PUTIN HE IS MAD FOR INVADING ANOTHER MAN IN HIS HOME.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by kingthreat(m): 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2022
Penguin2:
Lol

But where are the Putin supporters who predicted that Ukraine will be done with within 72 hours?

Where are those fools?

You’d be surprised how people would open their two eyes and choose to support evil; and be speaking big grammar on top of it.

Or are they Muslims that want the downfall of America or what?

Surprisingly, these same folks are the ones supporting Tinubu despite his frailties, ills and terrible past.

But I prophesy today, that as Putin failed in Ukraine with all his “Structure” and nuclear warheads against a “structureless” Ukraine who had to quickly assemble a military to combat Russia, so shall Tinubu and even Atiku fail with all their structures against a structureless Labour Party.

The war in Ukraine was not just a war, it was a battle between darkness and light, between freedom and repression, between the big boy who felt he had all the structure to bully the small guy and the small guy who is only seeking his self preservation.

And as always, light will always be victorious over darkness!

Is homosexuality light?
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Sagamite(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2022
SeeThisLoser:


https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/11/11/breaking-vladimir-putin-offered-surrender-terms-by-the-west-after-humiliating-kherson-loss/

Moronic and propagandish news report.

I am sure the only negotiations Putin will agree to are:

1) Crimea remains part of Russia
2) Donbas/captured region is run separately (like Taiwan/Kosovo)
3) The West ends/softens economic sanctions aimed at destroying Russia
4) Ukraine stops any military progress

Then Putin will stop the bombing of the Rest of Ukraine and let grains go around the world.

The West cannot sustain their support for Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain the war while the West is blocking his weapons development supply chain.

But Russia does have longer sustainance of war than the West's support sustainance. Hence, the West will have to come to the negotiating table.

As long as Russia intends to continue the war, the West will:

a) Have to fund Ukraine's War efforts
b) Send aid around the world as people starve
c) Deal with conflicts breaking out around the world as people blame governments for their hunger and bias/marginalisation
d) Then deal with high rates of migration to their countries as people flee hunger


These will be too expensive for the West and throw them in turmoil as they have too many woke iiidiots. They will want to end this war! They will rather use far less funds to help rebuild the rest of Ukraine.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by olugabbie(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2022
Onyiiobi7735:
grin grin The issue is, will Putin readily agree to surrender? But after this war comes to an end,many nations would have learnt a lesson from what befell Ukraine.Dancing to Western manipulation never ends well.

Crimea is simply not enough for Putin. The minimum he can take is the entire Donbas, part of Kherson the Russian troops currently occupy and part of Zaprophizia they occupy as well.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by israelmao(m): 2:09pm On Nov 12, 2022
Those who were here in Nigeria at the outset of Russia-Urkraine war and beating their chests on behalf of Russia in assurance of her ability of wipping out Urkraine in just one week should bury their heads in deep shame.Putin has fled before Urkraine in great fear.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Funmisurge(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2022
Penguin2:
Lol

But where are the Putin supporters who predicted that Ukraine will be done with within 72 hours?

Where are those fools?

You’d be surprised how people would open their two eyes and choose to support evil; and be speaking big grammar on top of it.

Or are they Muslims that want the downfall of America or what?

Surprisingly, these same folks are the ones supporting Tinubu despite his frailties, ills and terrible past.

But I prophesy today, that as Putin failed in Ukraine with all his “Structure” and nuclear warheads against a “structureless” Ukraine who had to quickly assemble a military to combat Russia, so shall Tinubu and even Atiku fail with all their structures against a structureless Labour Party.

The war in Ukraine was not just a war, it was a battle between darkness and light, between freedom and repression, between the big boy who felt he had all the structure to bully the small guy and the small guy who is only seeking his self preservation.

And as always, light will always be victorious over darkness!




U are just too myopics in thinking. How does Russia/Ukraine apply to our political scenarios in Nigeria. U are aiming at entering Aso Rock through gospel of obedientocrazy. Where is ur zoo nation madness few years back? Ipob sovereignty gospel of years back? Better go and have a rethink and build pan Nigeria instead of ethnicity bigotry and egocentric mannerism that have been ur way of life
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by olugabbie(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2022
Crimea is simply not enough for Putin. The minimum he can take is the entire Donbas, part of Kherson the Russian troops currently occupy and part of Zaprophizia they occupy as well.
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by HolyHero: 2:11pm On Nov 12, 2022
Russia special forces are still in Kherson… the Russians left their spetnaz unit In the town in plain clothes to disguise as civilians and commit sabotage against the Ukrainians and gain intelligence… they’re right at the edge of the dnipre river and they’re going to bomb the hell out of Kherson just like they did to Mariupol.. Putin has said his main objective is to liberate the donbass… he has completely liberated one part of it.. it’s remaining a small portion in Donetsk… the withdrawn troops from Kherson will be diverted to the donbass… A battle doesn’t define a war.. this is a tactical withdrawal… it doesn’t mean the war is lost… Kharkiv will fall, Kherson will fall and Odessa will fall… it’s a marathon not a sprint.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:12pm On Nov 12, 2022
texazzpete:


Meanwhile, Russia is winning by retreating. The first and only army in the world to rack up victories by fleeing occupied territories and abandoning equipment.
grin Russia abandoned equipment against in Kherson? grin Just like in Izyum and Lyman, Russia left Kherson not under Pressure
They left cos it’s militarily sound to do so.
In war, its better to wound an enemy than to kill the enemy! grin
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Russia withdrawing my foot grin
Russia just captured IVANGRAD in the Artyomov direction grin
Even pull out of Kherson is textbook. They still there! And more over Barkmut is almost falling into the hands of the Russians grin

They've been battling around Bakhmut for months now. No success. Ukraine is happy to tie down the bulk of Wagner there and inflict heavy casualties on them.

Imagine celebrating pulling out of massive, strategic Kherson to take over small hamlets like Ivangrad or Optyne at terrible cost.

E say na 'textbook' pull out. Elegant retreat, abi?
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by HolyHero: 2:14pm On Nov 12, 2022
orisa37:
UKRAINE, FINLAND, NORWAY AND TURKEY ARE RIGHT FOR STRENGTHENING NATO.
RUSSIA IS UP TO NO GOOD. PUTIN IS THE MADMAN HERE. TELL PUTIN HE IS MAD FOR INVADING ANOTHER MAN IN HIS HOME.
the west invaded iraq, Afghanistan and Libya too.. I’m just saying
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:16pm On Nov 12, 2022
slimghost:
Lol.

Russia tactically left Kherson and blew up all connecting bridges.

Humiliating loss bawo.

Foolish west and their propaganda

Tactically left, the 2nd strongest army in the world, the famed red army, is now tactically leaving grin
I feel your pain bro,
The same Kherson that Putin last month claimed will be Russian forever,
If you are current in the war you will know that the Russian blew up the brigades so the Ukrainian will not go after them,
So are you more Russian than Russian citizens who have been critical of the pull out of its forces in Kherson, you that don't even know were an international airport is is claiming others Wise grin

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SIRTee15: 2:17pm On Nov 12, 2022
Heathrow44:
This is the most senseless war I've ever witnessed in history , there were few wins here and there bt d cons far outweighs d benefits, this war was not to have been fought in the first place,

the wins

NATO had few cracks amongst them, this war really showed how" strong" NATO truly is, but is obvious Some countries in NATO are beginning to question their place, it shows NATO is just one disaster away from complete dissolution

Realigning of the world economy away from d dollar

Strengthening the working relationships of the BRICS, Including Iran, NK, Belarus

Russia has shown that US sanctions cannot be as devastating as they paint it to be, more countries would call US sanctions as Bluff henceforth

Dollar hegemony is not going away anytime soon. Not because of American bullying tactics but no nation wants it's currency to replace the dollar.
Even India insisted it will buy oil from Russia mostly in dollars and not in rubbles. They fear exchange of ruppies for rubbles will short change their own currency.
China's control over her currency is too tight to allow for free float- a requirement for globalised currency.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SIRTee15: 2:19pm On Nov 12, 2022
If russian accede to this demand, then this is the most useless war ever fought by Russians. What they offering Russia was her initial pre war status. That means u just killed your fellow russian men for nothing but stupid ego.
There's not even the assurance that Ukraine won't join NATO or EU..was that not the main bone of contention.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by franktech(m): 2:21pm On Nov 12, 2022
Russia willingly left the location my dear. The west and propaganda are like husband and wife
oneolajire:
Where are those shouting "Ukraine is winning on social media"?
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Russia abandoned equipment against in Kherson? grin Just like in Izyum and Lyman, Russia left Kherson not under Pressure
They left cos it’s militarily sound to do so.
In war, its better to wound an enemy than to kill the enemy! grin

The strongest army in Europe leaving because it was military sound grin
The reason why they left was because the Russians could not supplied their troops, because the Ukrainian has been hitting the bridges and supply routes of the Russian forces in Kherson.
You know why this sound as a big victory for Ukrainians
Is that Kherson was the only region whose capital was in Russian hands, two Kherson is strategic located as it is a gate way for future military advance to the island of Crimea..

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2022
texazzpete:


Power will be restored to Kyiv pretty soon.

But i can see the depths you people have fallen to. From counting victories in settlements captured, you're now settled for counting the number if civilians temporarily inconvenienced.

And yes, there's growing war fatigue in Russia. Go and ask the mothers of the mobilized troops if they want their kids to still be fighting Putin's senseless war.

Ukraine isn't offering peace terms. This story is false. They want to hammer Russia even more on the battlefield so when they come to the table, they'll come like beaten dogs.
grin If the news is false, then why are we even discussing now? U people are always about fake news! Russia called up reservists! Not fresh conscripts and no mother is crying in Russia grin
All u do is fake news! As for territories, Russia hasn’t stopped capturing territories. They recently got one. And the aim from the beginning was 1. Liberate Donbas 2. Demilitarize Ukraine and 3. Denazify the Kiev government. Not to capture Kiev or wot have u.
Then expect more darkness for Ukraine with carpet bombing on the way. More refugees will flow into Poland, and EU will be ruined.
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by thesicilian: 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2022
I don't know why most people are happy that Russia is retreating from Kherson and taking that to mean that NATO is winning.
Retreating to restrategize is a well known tactic of war that has been used by the greatest war veterans since the history of the earth itself. Russia's war against Ukraine/NATO/USA and it's allies is not only territorial, it is also economic.
So far Russia is winning on both fronts. Celebrating the defeat of Russia and issuing them "terms of surrender" is either just mind games from Biden's demented brain, or pure hubris.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2022
franktech:
Russia willingly left the location my dear. The west and propaganda are like husband and wife

Is there anything like willing left,
You high?
The same Kherson that Putin claimed last Month will be Russian forever, is now they willing Left,
Please educate yourself, the city of Kherson was the only region whose capital was in Russian hands,
And it is also strategic located as it is a gate way to the city of Crimea
Russia won't give up Kherson if it wasn't force to do so
Listen to the general who announce the pullout and learn instead of coming online to say rubbish..
The Russian forces were in danger of getting trapped in Kherson, as the bridges supplying the troops were destroyed

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:28pm On Nov 12, 2022
obedience4:


Bro, stop lying, Russians hasn't made any gains for over 3 months,
Please the so call amagadon general, was in Russian TV and declared that Russian force's are moving out of Kherson,
You are here claiming they are still there' grin
Please attached to your reply with Prof that Russia has made any gains in over 3 months,
Go to telegram and see pro Putin criticizing the pull out
grin Wot u believe is inconsequential. I am not interested in proving anything to western bots whos lifes are tied to CNN.
With all the progress of Wagner in Barkmut u can still be saying Russia made no gains in 3mnths? As for Kherson, even Zelensky is sure it’s a trap! He is not celebrating. U don’t know anything

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Eriokanmi: 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022
Useless Putin

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ariesbull: 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022
We know... Ukriane is winning online.. We are watching
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Russia abandoned equipment against in Kherson? grin Just like in Izyum and Lyman, Russia left Kherson not under Pressure
They left cos it’s militarily sound to do so.
In war, its better to wound an enemy than to kill the enemy! grin

Tell the people why it got to a situation where Russia had to abandon a major, strategic city. Was it not due to an Ukrainian counter-offensive? Was it not Ukrainian military action that forced Russia to evacuate what should have been a strongpoint?

HolyHero:
Russia special forces are still in Kherson… the Russians left their spetnaz unit In the town in plain clothes to disguise as civilians and commit sabotage against the Ukrainians and gain intelligence… they’re right at the edge of the dnipre river and they’re going to bomb the hell out of Kherson just like they did to Mariupol.. Putin has said his main objective is to liberate the donbass… he has completely liberated one part of it.. it’s remaining a small portion in Donetsk… the withdrawn troops from Kherson will be diverted to the donbass… A battle doesn’t define a war.. this is a tactical withdrawal… it doesn’t mean the war is lost… Kharkiv will fall, Kherson will fall and Odessa will fall… it’s a marathon not a sprint.

The only Russian forces left in Kherson in plain clothes are the ones who could not evacuate and are desperately hiding for their lives. They'll be rooted out.
Russian artillery can try to bomb kherson, but you should know this isn't the early days of the war. Ukraine has attained near parity with artillery and have more accurate, long range guns. They'll smoke the Russians if they tried any of that.

Russia can divert some of their withdrawn troops to the Donbas, but so can Ukraine repurpose some of the estimated 50K troops they earmarked for the Kherson assault.

They'll never be able to take Kharkiv. Odessa is an impossibility. And they certainly won't be allowed to smell Kherson.

Anyway, these are pipe dreams from you. Real russians are actually upset and pessimistic and they can see Russia putting down defensive lines at the North of Crimea.

Keep dreaming of a Russian comeback.Meanwhile the Ukrainian offensive is set to resume.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ariesbull: 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Wot u believe is inconsequential. I am not interested in proving anything to western bots whos lifes are tied to CNN.
With all the progress of Wagner in Barkmut u can still be saying Russia made no gains in 3mnths? As for Kherson, even Zelensky is sure it’s a trap! He is not celebrating. U don’t know anything
don't even blame them too much propaganda of CNN and BBC dey worry dem... Wait till winter they will fight in snows and shades

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by southpole: 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022
Moniya4Real:

Point of correction. Ukraine didn’t fight Russia. NATO and US Allies did either through weapons support or through sanctions. Imagine if Ukraine had not been supported with US advanced weapons not to talk of billions in military aid.
if Putin thought he can strike at Ukraine and the world will be watching without doing anything that shows that Putin may likely be a foolish person. Putin overestimated Russia and underestimated Ukraine and friends of Ukraine. overestimation and underestimation show that Putin is not wise enough. Again Putin did not collect intelligence to determine what other countries will do should he strike at Ukraine that itself shows some kind of foolishness. If you think you can attack a man and you think his friends who are your enemies will not support him, I don't know how to call that kind of thinking.

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022
Krismas:
grin Wot u believe is inconsequential. I am not interested in proving anything to western bots whos lifes are tied to CNN.
With all the progress of Wagner in Barkmut u can still be saying Russia made no gains in 3mnths? As for Kherson, even Zelensky is sure it’s a trap! He is not celebrating. U don’t know anything

Lol, I feel your pain, not just you,but thousands of your fellow Putin sons on telegram,
A city that Putin claimed was Russian forever
Is now been used as a trap

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Inyinese(m): 2:33pm On Nov 12, 2022
Penguin2:
Lol

But where are the Putin supporters who predicted that Ukraine will be done with within 72 hours?

Where are those fools?

You’d be surprised how people would open their two eyes and choose to support evil; and be speaking big grammar on top of it.
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Or are they Muslims that want the downfall of America or what?

Surprisingly, these same folks are the ones supporting Tinubu despite his frailties, ills and terrible past.

But I prophesy today, that as Putin failed in Ukraine with all his “Structure” and nuclear warheads against a “structureless” Ukraine who had to quickly assemble a military to combat Russia, so shall Tinubu and even Atiku fail with all their structures against a structureless Labour Party.

The war in Ukraine was not just a war, it was a battle between darkness and light, between freedom and repression, between the big boy who felt he had all the structure to bully the small guy and the small guy who is only seeking his self preservation.

And as always, light will always be victorious over darkness!
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by alobright17(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022
Osariemen12:
Laughs.


Ukraine is winning online.

Months ago you boasted that Russia will win within few days . So ?

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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SPENCERD(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022
War is easy, it is peace that will break your heart....... Zeddicus zuzorander
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022
ariesbull:
don't even blame them too much propaganda of CNN and BBC dey worry dem... Wait till winter they will fight in snows and shades
Cry cry baby,
Ukrainians have been fighting Russian backed rebels for over four years, mind you Ukrainian were also part of the old Soviet Union, dudes have been fighting in the winters for years grin

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