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Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:42pm On Nov 30, 2022
Skankamola:
Dogs, cats, lions, birds also fight out to be superior to one another, they offend God too?
They are not created in the IMAGE of God:

Meaning they lack reasoning on how to make life better through invention but as for humans we are supposed to control them so that when they act as animals we act as humans: Creatures in the image of the Creator! Genesis 1:26 smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:47pm On Nov 30, 2022
Aemmyjah:
As if science can tell us the meaning of life and how to make the best out of it
It really amuses me the way they want to place science side by side with God because science is all about trial and error. Before humans discover anything the first set of humans that started that invention must have died during the errors, but after all the sacrifices atheists wants to get the glory! smiley
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:48am On Dec 01, 2022
Skankamola:
Dogs, cats, lions, birds also fight out to be superior to one another, they offend God too?
No, to offend someone is to rebel or disobey against him. But before that happens, one has to have take in knowledge

Made in the image of God. What does that mean?
An image is a reflection of someone or something
But no man has seen God at any time and we're flesh but he is a spirit.,So man is not the image of God in physicality or semblance in appearance

It means we can reflect God's cardinal qualities like love, compassion, empathy, wisdom, holiness, spirituality, justice, etc
Animals were also made by God but not in his image
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
No, to offend someone is to rebel or disobey against him. But before that happens, one has to have take in knowledge

Made in the image of God. What does that mean?
An image is a reflection of someone or something
But no man has seen God at any time and we're flesh but he is a spirit.,So man is not the image of God in physicality or semblance in appearance

It means we can reflect God's cardinal qualities like love, compassion, empathy, wisdom, holiness, spirituality, justice, etc
Animals were also made by God but not in his image
Once you quote a phrase in the Bible they are offended they just don't want to hear anything about SUPERIOR AUTHORITY that won't force or threatening them with weapons, to them it's a crime to take instructions from someone they can't see, at least one that pose no threat! wink
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op):
Aemmyjah:
Lol
Don't forget that mutations are usually harmful
Gene mutations are usually deadly

So, stop assuming and present SCIENTIFIC FACTS
You still have not learnt anything illiterate.

Mutations are not usually harmful.

Everytime you give birth to a baby, that baby must inherit a mutation. Every gas damn time.

Mutations happen everytime, you are an illiterate.

During every step of gene replication, mutations always happens because the enzyme responsible for replication is DNA polymerase, does genes proofreads but the proofreading is not 100% accurate hence a mutation will always occur as a result of little mistakes. This mutation is usually neutral not more harmful, sometimes it could be beneficial. It’s good because it helps the gene pool and makes sure that the genome of the offspring is not exactly 50/50 of that of the parent.

This mutation that develops from replaication is why we cannot seem to wrap our head around HIV, HIV reverse transcriptase enzyme is responsible for replication of its RNA. It’s very bad at proofreading hence creating many mutations, this mutations helps the virus collectively to elude our medicinal approach sufficiently.
So this mutations are on the average always beneficial to them.

You are blunt illiterate who keeps shouting about what he knows nothing about.


There’s no way you didn’t inherit a mutation from your patients, it’s impossible. So for the umpteenth time, mutations are not usually harmful, you don’t just know biology.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:09am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
You still have not learnt anything illiterate.

Mutations are not usually harmful.

Everytime you give birth to a baby, that baby must inherit a mutation. Every gas damn time.

Mutations happen everytime, you are an illiterate.

During every step of gene replication, mutations always happens because the enzyme responsible for replication is DNA polymerase, does genes proofreads but the proofreading is not 100% accurate hence a mutation will always occur as a result of little mistakes. This mutation is usually neutral and more harmful, sometimes it could be beneficial. It’s good because it helps the gene pool and makes sure that the genome of the offspring is not exactly 50/50 of that of the parent.

This mutation that develops from replaication is why we cannot seem to wrap our head around HIV, HIV reverse transcriptase enzyme is responsible for replication of its RNA. It’s very bad at proofreading hence creating many mutations, this mutations helps the virus collectively to elude or medicinal approach sufficiently.
So this mutations are on the average always beneficial to them.

You are blunt illiterate who keeps shouting about what he knows nothing about.


There’s no way you didn’t inherit a mutation from your patients, it’s impossible. So for the umpteenth time, mutations are not usually harmful, you don’t just know biology.
A scientist from the best university keeps blabbing without proving his claims. Continue blabbing
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:12am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
A scientist from the best university keeps blabbing without proving his claims. Continue blabbing
You are thick.

Just stop spreading junk science about mutations always being harmful when you don’t even know what mutations are.

You keep recycling the jargons you learnt from your creationist YouTube channel grin
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:15am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
A scientist from the best university keeps blabbing without proving his claims. Continue blabbing
I can bet that you didn’t even read what I explained there because you are dull.
Even you did, you cannot understand because you learn science from creationist YouTube pages.

Only extreme illiterates of science think that mutations are usually destructive. What nonsense talk is that? grin
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:20am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
I can bet that you didn’t even read what I explained there because you are dull.
Even you did, you cannot understand because you learn science from creationist YouTube pages.

Only extreme illiterates of science think that mutations are usually destructive. What nonsense talk is that? grin
I never said there are no beneficial mutations
I know what I said and you have not disprove it till now
Mutations are USUALLY deleterious. A higher percentage goes to it being destructive, then being neutral, a little percentage is beneficial
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:22am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
You still have not learnt anything illiterate.

Mutations are not usually harmful.

Everytime you give birth to a baby, that baby must inherit a mutation. Every gas damn time.

Mutations happen everytime, you are an illiterate.

During every step of gene replication, mutations always happens because the enzyme responsible for replication is DNA polymerase, does genes proofreads but the proofreading is not 100% accurate hence a mutation will always occur as a result of little mistakes. This mutation is usually neutral not more harmful, sometimes it could be beneficial. It’s good because it helps the gene pool and makes sure that the genome of the offspring is not exactly 50/50 of that of the parent.

This mutation that develops from replaication is why we cannot seem to wrap our head around HIV, HIV reverse transcriptase enzyme is responsible for replication of its RNA. It’s very bad at proofreading hence creating many mutations, this mutations helps the virus collectively to elude our medicinal approach sufficiently.
So this mutations are on the average always beneficial to them.

You are blunt illiterate who keeps shouting about what he knows nothing about.


There’s no way you didn’t inherit a mutation from your patients, it’s impossible. So for the umpteenth time, mutations are not usually harmful, you don’t just know biology.
Again,they are usually harmful
Besides, I have NEVER visited youtube for creationist ideas. I don't know any creationist page my whole life.
What causes cancers and gene disorders? Can you tell us?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:23am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
I never said there are no beneficial mutations
I know what I said and you have not disprove it till now
Mutations are USUALLY deleterious. A higher percentage goes to it being destructive, then being neutral, a little percentage is beneficial
by percentage, about 95% (I am not sure about this exact figure) mutations are not destructive.

The most common form of mutation occurs during gene replication and this type of mutations are almost always neutral. They only help to create more diversity.

You are still wrong, mutations are not usually destructive.

There’s nothing wrong is being wrong, dropping your wrong notions and accepting facts.

It’s seem that you hardly learn anything new and that’s why you are still a creationist.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:25am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Again,they are usually harmful
Besides, I have NEVER visited youtube for creationist ideas. I don't know any creationist page my whole life.
What causes cancers and gene disorders? Can you tell us?
If you read and understood that post you won’t still be asking me whether mutations are usually harmful.
Be ready to learn and change what you know, don’t be incorrigible in ignorance.

Okay, dont take my word for it

Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:36am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
by percentage, about 95% (I am not sure about this exact figure) mutations are not destructive.

The most common form of mutation occurs during gene replication and this type of mutations are almost always neutral. They only help to create more diversity.

You are still wrong, mutations are not usually destructive.

There’s nothing wrong is being wrong, dropping your wrong notions and accepting facts.

It’s seem that you hardly learn anything new and that’s why you are still a creationist.
Lol.
You were shouting that mutations ARE beneficial and mentioning some beneficial mutations. Now, you say that mutations - about 95% are neutral. Are you making sense at all?
Okay, I now accept I was wrong but which should I accept. Mutations are usually beneficial or neutral?
You seem to be the one adjusting your understanding of scientific facts. You're yet to thank me for that
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:41am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
If you read and understood that post you won’t still be asking me whether mutations are usually harmful.
Be ready to learn and change what you know, don’t be incorrigible in ignorance.

Okay, dont take my word for it
Lemme drop mine too
Maybe I was wrong in saying mutations are usually harmful. I am not like you that won't accept correction
From that shot, mutations tend to be more harmful than harmless if not neutral.
You were not taught at school

Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:44am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Lemme drop mine too
Maybe I was wrong in saying mutations are usually harmful. I am not like you that won't accept correction
From that shot, mutations tend to be more harmful than harmless if not neutral.
You were not taught at school
“Most non-neutral”
“Most non-neural”

Did you fail English in school too?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:47am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Lol.
You were shouting that mutations ARE beneficial and mentioning some beneficial mutations. Now, you say that mutations - about 95% are neutral. Are you making sense at all?
Okay, I now accept I was wrong but which should I accept. Mutations are usually beneficial or neutral?
You seem to be the one adjusting your understanding of scientific facts. You're yet to thank me for that
Some beneficial mutations in humans

1. Lactose tolerance mutation
2. HIV resistance mutation
3. Increase bone density mutation
4. Malaria resistance mutation
5. Tetrachromatic vision mutation


What are you talking about that there’s no beneficial mutations?

All mutations are not harmful
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:48am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
“Most non-neutral”
“Most non-neural”

Did you fail English in school too?
Shame on you
Is that too difficult to comprehend for you?
Ok, let's agree that mutations are shown to be mostly neutral
Now, the ones that are not neutral tend to be more deleterious than harmless and I think you should know what deleterious mean if you passed English in school.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:50am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
Some beneficial mutations in humans

1. Lactose tolerance mutation
2. HIV resistance mutation
3. Increase bone density mutation
4. Malaria resistance mutation
5. Tetrachromatic vision mutation


What are you talking about that there’s no beneficial mutations?

All mutations are not harmful
My God!
When did I ever say there are no beneficial mutations?!
Liar!
You want to hide your embarrassment to make me look stupid in this forum
Are you not the one preaching that mutations are beneficial?
If mutations are 95% neutral as you said. Then tell us, how many percent is harmful and how many is beneficial?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:54am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
My God!
When did I ever say there are no beneficial mutations?!
Liar!
You want to hide your embarrassment to make me look stupid in this forum
Are you not the one preaching that mutations are beneficial?
If mutations are 95% neutral as you said. Then tell us, how many percent is harmful and how many is beneficial?
Whos keeping the record of how many percentage is harmful or beneficial?

You argument is that most mutations are harmful and that’s a lie. Deal with it.

Love and bring another creationist lie for us to dismantle
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 7:55am On Dec 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
They are not created in the IMAGE of God:

Meaning they lack reasoning on how to make life better through invention but as for humans we are supposed to control them so that when they act as animals we act as humans: Creatures in the image of the Creator! Genesis 1:26 smiley
This is just a lie you invent to escape reality, animals use tools to make things easy for themselves also depending on how much intelligence they could get. Birds build nests, monkeys can use rocks and sticks for attack or defence, hermit crabs rely on empty snail shells for shelter. Man has more intelligence does not make him so much different in that aspect.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 7:57am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Shame on you
Is that too difficult to comprehend for you?
Ok, let's agree that mutations are shown to be mostly neutral
Now, the ones that are not neutral tend to be more deleterious than harmless and I think you should know what deleterious mean if you passed English in school.
for every one harmful mutations you mention, I will mention 8 non-harmful mutations.

You agree?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:57am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
Some beneficial mutations in humans

1. Lactose tolerance mutation
2. HIV resistance mutation
3. Increase bone density mutation
4. Malaria resistance mutation
5. Tetrachromatic vision mutation


What are you talking about that there’s no beneficial mutations?

All mutations are not harmful
Examples of harmful mutations
1. Angelman syndrom
2. Canavan disease
3. color blindness
4. cri-du-chat syndrome
5. cystic fibrosis
6. Down syndrome
7. Duchenne muscular dystrophy,
8. haemochromatosis
9. haemophilia
10. Klinefelter syndrome
11. phenylketonuria
12. Prader–Willi syndrome
13. Tay–Sachs disease
14. Turner syndrome

I now accept that most mutations are neutral but if 'non-neutral', they tend to be more harmful than beneficial. Mr Tell Aviv biochemist. I may go to a third world school but I will give you FACTS.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:57am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
for every one harmful mutations you mention, I will mention 8 non-harmful mutations.

You agree?
Right
Let's go!!!!
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:59am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
Whos keeping the record of how many percentage is harmful or beneficial?

You argument is that most mutations are harmful and that’s a lie. Deal with it.

Love and bring another creationist lie for us to dismantle
I now agree that most mutations are neutral
What about you who have been claiming that they are beneficial?
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 8:02am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
No, to offend someone is to rebel or disobey against him. But before that happens, one has to have take in knowledge

Made in the image of God. What does that mean?
An image is a reflection of someone or something
But no man has seen God at any time and we're flesh but he is a spirit.,So man is not the image of God in physicality or semblance in appearance

It means we can reflect God's cardinal qualities like love, compassion, empathy, wisdom, holiness, spirituality, justice, etc
Animals were also made by God but not in his image
Animals also show love, compassion, empathy, wisdom, and maybe spirituality too who knows? Your ignorance on mutations and science in general has been addressed.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 8:06am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Examples of harmful mutations
1. Angelman syndrom
2. Canavan disease
3. color blindness
4. cri-du-chat syndrome
5. cystic fibrosis
6. Down syndrome
7. Duchenne muscular dystrophy,
8. haemochromatosis
9. haemophilia
10. Klinefelter syndrome
11. phenylketonuria
12. Prader–Willi syndrome
13. Tay–Sachs disease
14. Turner syndrome

I now accept that most mutations are neutral but if 'non-neutral', they tend to be more harmful than beneficial. Mr Tell Aviv biochemist. I may go to a third world school but I will give you FACTS.
more beneficial mutations

1. ACTN3 and the super-sprinter variant
2. hDEC2 and the super-sleeper mutation
3. TAS2R38 and the supertaster variant
4. LRP5 and the unbreakable mutation
5. CETP and the low-cholesterol mutation
6. BDNF and SLC6A4 and the super coffee-drinker variants
7. ALDH2*2: The super-flusher variant
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:06am On Dec 01, 2022
Skankamola:
Animals also show love, compassion, empathy, wisdom, and maybe spirituality too who knows? Your ignorance on mutations and science in general has been addressed.
Lol
Do you know what love is? You don't
Parental care is not love, I hope you know

Why not go to a zoo and enter a lion's cage or tiger or snakes or even crocodile? If you don't have a zoo, go to a thick forest that have wild animals and test your theory of animal love and compassion and empathy
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06am On Dec 01, 2022
Skankamola:
This is just a lie you invent to escape reality, animals use tools to make things easy for themselves also depending on how much intelligence they could get. Birds build nests, monkeys can use rocks and sticks for attack or defence, hermit crabs rely on empty snail shells for shelter. Man has more intelligence does not make him so much different in that aspect.
According to the Bible:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

 Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters.

And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light.

After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness.

God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.

Then God said: “Let there be an expanse between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.” Genesis 1:1-6


Hello my friend!
Do you notice the advancement?

Please tell me one creature that has been making advancement in the way they build their houses apart from humans whom the Bible rightly said: in God's image He created them! Genesis 1:26-28 smiley

Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 8:08am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Right
Let's go!!!!
Hope you know that every time gene replication occurs, a mutation will happen that is not harmful, going by that we have 8billion in the world with mutations that are not harmful, you will have to provide 1billion harmful mutations to match that figure grin
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Workch(op): 8:09am On Dec 01, 2022
Aemmyjah:
I now agree that most mutations are neutral
What about you who have been claiming that they are beneficial?
Yes na, some mutations are beneficial, while some are harmful.

No one really knows the percentage. Deal with it dude.

You assertion that most mutations are harmful is wrong.
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:12am On Dec 01, 2022
Workch:
more beneficial mutations

1. ACTN3 and the super-sprinter variant
2. hDEC2 and the super-sleeper mutation
3. TAS2R38 and the supertaster variant
4. LRP5 and the unbreakable mutation
5. CETP and the low-cholesterol mutation
6. BDNF and SLC6A4 and the super coffee-drinker variants
7. ALDH2*2: The super-flusher variant
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I laugh you in arabic spanish.
Are you familiar with these or you just copy and paste from the internet?
Are these natural or artificial mutations?
You're making me laugh real hard
Pls try again
I'm sure you've not even heard just one of these things you dropped. You should thank me for helping you learn more about mutations than you were taught in Israel
Or lemme say, you've won. I concede cos I can't mention ABCD and the eloquent mutation or WXYZ and the exquisite variant but I'm not saying you are wrong
Congratulations
Hahahaha
Re: Did Humans Evolve From Apes Or Are Humans Apes? by Nobody: 8:13am On Dec 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

 Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters.

And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light.

After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness.

God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.

Then God said: “Let there be an expanse between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.” Genesis 1:1-6


Hello my friend!
Do you notice the advancement?

Please tell me one creature that has been making advancement in the way they build their houses apart from humans whom the Bible rightly said: in God's image He created them! Genesis 1:26-28 smiley
The difference is simply the amount of intelligence acquired. Are you sure you want to analyse genesis 1?
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