Workch:
Natural selection the the process by which the environment selects the best gene to survive that environment, which changes gene frequencies of a group of organisms.

Constant changing gene frequencies in a group of organisms over time will basically portray different phenotypic features up to the extent of speciation.

It’s not rocket science

I perfectly under you to this extent. But evolution is still far more than speciation. There are changes in a cell that accounts for speciation. That is why we see physical variations in animals of the same species today. But evolution claims to go far more than that. It tells that an organism can completely change it pre recorded Information in its dna and produce entirely another organism. That is impossible today.

Workch:
show me evidence that a tiger cannot become an ape since tigers never existed forever and obviously came from other animals.

Develop a scientific model that inhibits that

Which animal did tiger come from? And how did it happen? Infact how did life start from just a single cell? How did the first cell start?

Workch:
show me evidence that a tiger cannot become an ape since tigers never existed forever and obviously came from other animals.

Develop a scientific model that inhibits that

The evidence was explained in my passage above. It cannot be done even in a controlled experiment.

Michael547:

Which animal did tiger come from? And how did it happen? Infact how did life start from just a single cell? How did the first cell start?

i don’t know how life started from a single cell.
Tigers evolved from Miacids

Michael547:

The evidence was explained in my passage above. It cannot be done even in a controlled experiment.

Your evidence doesn’t factor in millions of years of speciation.

Show me an evidence that tigers cannot evolve into apes in another 70million years of constant speciations

Osamabinladenik:
Lol, you guys always have a way to defend you silly Bible stories

silly?
That isn't the case.

But primitive?
Yes, you can use the word primitive to describe certain bible stories especially in the old testament.
As a matter of fact, the primitive events are further proofs that these stories actually occurred in the ancient primitive world

Workch:
i don’t know how life started from a single cell.
Tigers evolved from Miacids

Is there any scientific proof to that. The last time I checked miacids were complete animals and no fossil shows how they gradually evolved to tigers.

Michael547:

I perfectly under you to this extent. But evolution is still far more than speciation. There are changes in a cell that accounts for speciation. That is why we see physical variations in animals of the same species today. But evolution claims to go far more than that. It tells that an organism can completely change it pre recorded Information in its dna and produce entirely another organism. That is impossible today.

It claims so because it see the evidence in DNA.
It’s not a coincidence that we see more DNA disparities as we move from species, to genus, to order to class, to family to phylum and then kingdom.

As a matter of fact, we have also detected many similarities between even humans and bacteria in DNA, which is prove that they originated from a single organism. Some Genes in bacteria and humans are exact the same, what other explanation is more logical than evolution?

Workch:
Your evidence doesn’t factor in millions of years of speciation.

Show me an evidence that tigers cannot evolve into apes in another 70million years of constant speciations

The evidence is in their dna. Every living organism today has an information in their cells that makes them what they are including me and you. That information cannot be completely altered. That is what we know about science today.

Michael547:

Is there any scientific proof to that. The last time I checked miacids were complete animals and no fossil shows how they gradually evolved to tigers.

Yes, they share 99.9% DNA, and two discovered that Tigers appeared in the fossil record as about the same time when maicids where going extinct.

It can’t be a coincidence, it’s not magic

Workch:
It claims so because it see the evidence in DNA.
It’s not a coincidence that we see more DNA disparities as we move from species, to genus, to order to class, to family to phylum and then kingdom.

As a matter of fact, we have also detected many similarities between even humans and bacteria in DNA, which is prove that they originated from a single organism. Some Genes in bacteria and humans are exact the same, what other explanation is more logical than evolution?

If the human dna and bacteria dna is the same, we would likewise have become microbes too. That is what science tells us. The information in our cell is different. And that is why we are different from bacterials

Michael547:

The evidence is in their dna. Every living organism today has an information in their cells that makes them what they are including me and you. That information cannot be completely altered. That is what we know about science today.

Can you show me evidence that tigers cannot become Apes slowly over a period of 70million years.
Do you have any evidence for that in form of DNA science and evolutionary biology?

Michael547:

If the human dna and bacteria dna is the same, we would likewise have become microbes too. That is what science tells us. The information in our cell is different. And that is why we are different from bacterials

Where did I say that humans and bacteria DNA are the same?
Point to it

Michael547:

Is there any scientific proof to that. The last time I checked miacids were complete animals and no fossil shows how they gradually evolved to tigers.

can you show me any maicid today that is not a fossil?

I am curious

Workch:
Yes, they share 99.9% DNA, and two discovered that Tigers appeared in the fossil record as about the same time when maicids where going extinct.

It can’t be a coincidence, it’s not magic

The fossil records do not prove what you are insinuating. There is no evidence to show that miacids biologically evolved to tigers.

Workch:
can you show me any maicid today that is not a fossil?

I am curious

Miacids have simply gone extinct just like mammoths and dinosaurs.

Michael547:

The fossil records do not prove what you are insinuating. There is no evidence to show that miacids biologically evolved to tigers.

So how come they share 99.9% DNA compositions with Tigers and other felines?

What explanation do you have for that?

Michael547:

Miacids have simply gone extinct just like mammoths and dinosaurs.

Why did they go extinct?

Michael547:

Miacids have simply gone extinct just like mammoths and dinosaurs.

Can you mention one animal today that was formed when earth was formed or few years after earth was formed and is still around today?

If you mention one, I will accept whatever you have to say about magical creations

Workch:
Why did they go extinct?

Likely food chain or environmental factors. Just the same way we experiment some specie of animals go extinct today.

Michael547:

Likely food chain or environmental factors. Just the same way we experiment some specie of animals go extinct today.

Good, if the first organism or the first sets of organisms all went extinct without evolving into another types, what do you think would have happened?

Workch:
Can you mention one animal today that was formed when earth was formed or few years after earth was formed and is still around today?

If you mention one, I will accept whatever you have to say about magical creations

I dont know exactly when animals was created on the earth. What I do know is that the fossil records show ancient animals that once lived at a particular time and that some were fully developed and even complex than some animals we have today. That oppose the evolution theory that living organisms has always evolved from simple cell to complex animals.

Michael547:

I dont know exactly when animals was created on the earth. What I do know is that the fossil records show ancient animals that once lived at a particular time and that some were fully developed and even complex than some animals we have today. That oppose the evolution theory that living organisms has always evolved from simple cell to complex animals.

We don’t know in science either, that’s because there’s none.

Now, since no organism today that was formed in the earliest times is still around, so what do you think would have happened if they didn’t evolve before going extinct?

Workch:
Good, if the first organism or the first sets of organisms all went extinct without evolving into another types, what do you think would have happened?

What would have happened was that for other family of animals to be on earth, they would need to have appeared suddenly. That is exactly what the fossil records show. That families or kinds of animals appeared suddenly.

Michael547:

What would have happened was that for other family of animals to be on earth, they would need to have appeared suddenly. That is exactly what the fossil records show. That families or kinds of animals appeared suddenly.

if they appeared suddenly then why do they share almost exactly the same DNA composition with the immediate organism that went extinct?

Why does it seem like there was just a little edition in their DNA code that made it seem like they came from preexisting organisms?

Where do they appear from?

Workch:
if they appeared suddenly then why do they share almost exactly the same DNA composition with the immediate organism that went extinct?

Why does it seem like there was just a little edition in their DNA code that made it seem like they came from preexisting organisms?

Where do they appear from?

The fact is that not all groups or families of animals share similarities in their dna. Like I have always said, there are biological barriers between groups or families of animals that would make it impossible for all living organisms on earth to have evolved from a single cell. That is what science teaches us today. And that is what the fossil record show.

Michael547:

What would have happened was that for other family of animals to be on earth, they would need to have appeared suddenly. That is exactly what the fossil records show. That families or kinds of animals appeared suddenly.

Again;
If organisms 1 over 1million years Speciate to form organisms 2,

2 repeats to forms 3

3 repeats to from 4

3 repeats to form 5

5 repeats to form 6

6 repeats to from 7

6 repeats to form 8


There has been 8million years between organism 1 and 8.

Question:

1. Will organisms 7 and 8 look more like a closely related species than organisms 1 and 8?

2. Will organism 1 and 7 function exactly in the same manner?

Michael547:

The fact is that not all groups or families of animals share similarities in their dna. Like I have always said, there are biological barriers between groups or families of animals that would make it impossible for all living organisms on earth to have evolved from a single cell. That is what science teaches us today. And that is what the fossil record show.

So tell me why the evidence in the DNA similarity tells us that they are closely related.
On what grounds will you disapprove a DNA paternity test between organism a and B and accept a DNA paternity test between human A And B when basically we use the same method for both.

Are you inferring that paternity test that prove that this person is related to this person is also false?

Workch:
Again;
If organisms 1 over 1million years Speciate to form organisms 2,

2 repeats to forms 3

3 repeats to from 4

3 repeats to form 5

5 repeats to form 6

6 repeats to from 7

6 repeats to form 8


There has been 8million years between organism 1 and 8.

Question:

1. Will organisms 7 and 8 look more like a closely related species than organisms 1 and 8?

2. Will organism 1 and 7 function exactly in the same manner?

When you say speciate, what do you actually mean? Is is the same as completely evolving?

Michael547:

The fact is that not all groups or families of animals share similarities in their dna. Like I have always said, there are biological barriers between groups or families of animals that would make it impossible for all living organisms on earth to have evolved from a single cell. That is what science teaches us today. And that is what the fossil record show.

All group of organisms on earth share similarities in their DNA.

As matter of fact, humans share 50% DNA its Bananas.

Humans share 88% with cats

1% difference in DNA similarities can be the difference between a a cheetah and a lion

Workch:
So tell me why the evidence in the DNA similarity tells us that they are closely related.
On what grounds will you disapprove a DNA paternity test between organism a and B and accept a DNA paternity test between human A And B when basically we use the same method for both.

Are you inferring that paternity test that prove that this person is related to this person is also false?

It's because that's how the families or group of animals appeared. Then from the group, other specific species are produced through reproduction. Just like we have hundreds of breeds of dogs today. But no matter how you crossbreed dogs they cannot become apes.

Michael547:

When you say speciate, what do you actually mean? Is is the same as completely evolving?

it seems you have not been reading my comments, I will define species again:

A species is a group of organisms that have the ability to mate and bear fertile offsprings.

Lions and Tigers can mate but their offspring called ligers are usually not fertile hence lions and tigers are different species.