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Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 10:14am On Dec 16, 2022
They didn't only wear those revealing attires for ceremonial and religious purposes more than 100 years ago.

It was only when years went by that they only wore them for ceremonial and cultural purposes.

I know I'm not a Yoruba and I'm also not a Nigerian, but I sometimes like doing some research about other African tribes during my spare time.

And like I said, I have proof... Do you want to see it?
Xchii:
Yorubas wore revealing attires for ceremonial and religious ritual purposes. This doesn't change fact that Yorubas wore clothes and weren't naked.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 10:22am On Dec 16, 2022
Ikennaford:
I think no...

Because God didn't give us the capacity to do so... I mean to develop by ourselves upon our natural resources, I've done so many research on how black people came about for those of you that believe in Bible like me, in the Bible, there are 2 creation in the Bible, the creation of Adam(white man) he ate the fruit of knowledge and the creation of blacks, (ignoramus people) all of us here on nairaland including me and all the blacks around the world, so I'll create that thread on 25th Dec 2023,,my birthday... I'll be 30....

Back to the main topic, please your views

Hell noooo...we want halfcast women and halfcast childrens!!! angry
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Xchii: 10:27am On Dec 16, 2022
hardon1:
I just bolded your confession, at least you know why we are backwards to some extent

I don't know your definition of better civilization . The ancients Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, Arabs, Chinese, Cretans and the likes; had well developed languages with indigenous alphabets thousands of years ago even before Christ...

Yet just 300 yrs ago, some African languages were not fully developed, let alone developing a writing/scripting process for it. Our civilization was nowhere better abeg

I just believe nature made SSA to be highly backward for a reason which I don't know
you're very ignorant. And you shouldn't generalize your selfhate on others. Yes several ethnic groups were isolated from other civilizations for thousands of years and it affected the technological advancement of SSA but that doesn't mean others are better than us, it only means other benefitted from trade of ideas, technology, culture and so on... Example. The English, french, germans all never had any writing system. The Romans you mentioned got their writing system from the Greeks while the Greeks got theirs from the Phoenicians, the Phoenicians and Arabs all got their writing system from the ancient Egyptians. If you read carefully you'll understand that most of these civilizations were Mediterranean Civilizations that were able to trade among themselves for a long time and influenced themselves. Even the East Asians benefitted from the global trade back then with the silk road networks... But black Africans didn't because of the large barrier i.e the Sahara desert. Infact most people didn't know the Americas existed until the Portuguese started using the Atlantic ocean. Pls just read history bro, stop coming here to push anti-black rhetorics. Global academical researchers, historians, anthropologists all concluded that race has nothing to do with progress has far as history is concern. Nature didn't do anything to us, if you're suffering from depression or anything pls seek help.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Xchii: 10:30am On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
They didn't only wear those revealing attires for ceremonial and religious purposes more than 100 years ago.

It was only when years went by that they only wore them for ceremonial and cultural purposes.

I know I'm not a Yoruba and I'm also not a Nigerian, but I sometimes like doing some research about other African tribes during my spare time.

And like I said, I have proof... Do you want to see it?
yes pls send the proof abeg, I know Yorubas and benins have been exporting fabrics to the Portuguese traders for centuries and were not naked like Ibos or Zulus.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BigBashiru: 10:43am On Dec 16, 2022
Xchii:
you're very ignorant. And you shouldn't generalize your selfhate on others. Yes several ethnic groups were isolated from other civilizations for thousands of years and it affected the technological advancement of SSA but that doesn't mean others are better than us, it only means other benefitted from trade of ideas, technology, culture and so on... Example. The English, french, germans all never had any writing system. The Romans you mentioned got their writing system from the Greeks while the Greeks got theirs from the Phoenicians, the Phoenicians and Arabs all got their writing system from the ancient Egyptians. If you read carefully you'll understand that most of these civilizations were Mediterranean Civilizations that were able to trade among themselves for a long time and influenced themselves. Even the East Asians benefitted from the global trade back then with the silk road networks... But black Africans didn't because of the large barrier i.e the Sahara desert. Infact most people didn't know the Americas existed until the Portuguese started using the Atlantic ocean. Pls just read history bro, stop coming here to push anti-black rhetorics. Global academical researchers, historians, anthropologists all concluded that race has nothing to do with progress has far as history is concern. Nature didn't do anything to us, if you're suffering from depression or anything pls seek help.
My dear you don't know the full truth. SSA is more advanced than western europe.. there was no isolation only colonization....much of what western europe presents today as their technology advancement was stolen from Africa and other colonies....think about this....if they stole Benin art works and kept it chances are they also stole African technologies.... Google Timbuktu manuscripts....

Let me repeat western Europe isn't more technologies advanced than Africa. This includes computers and chips Africa played a role in its creation. Even phones....cobalt found in phones is only found in Africa so its Africans technologists that discovered it
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 10:49am On Dec 16, 2022
I'm not a Zulu, but I don't think Zulu people were ever naked even though they wore revealing clothes, which they still do even now.
Xchii:
yes pls send the proof abeg, I know Yorubas and benins have been exporting fabrics to the Portuguese traders for centuries and were not naked like Ibos or Zulus.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Fmghewzy2: 11:22am On Dec 16, 2022
Persephone1:
We would survive and probably live and die better. Civilization is no doubt both a blessing and a curse
I wish all your comments can be like this
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 2:01pm On Dec 16, 2022
These are the Yoruba women back in the 1800 and if you check the Yoruba artifacts, they are dressed exactly the same way as those Yoruba women.

Meaning that's how they used to dress before they started covering up.
Xchii:
yes pls send the proof abeg, I know Yorubas and benins have been exporting fabrics to the Portuguese traders for centuries and were not naked like Ibos or Zulus.

Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 5:27pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
These are the Yoruba women back in the 1800 and if you check the Yoruba artifacts, they are dressed exactly the same way as those Yoruba women.

Meaning that's how they used to dress before they started covering up.
the people in this picture are not Yorubas... I can show you pictures of malinkes, hausas, benins, Chinese, whites in random pics with breasts open. This doesn't change the fact that Yorubas have one of the most diverse attires in the continent.. Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to European countries for centuries....The Brits that traveled across Yoruba country said that yoruba made better clothes than the ones made in Liverpool. Search it up on google.. Those yoruba wooden artifacts depict men or women practicing ritual and religious ceremonies.... The ethnic groups known to be naked where Ibos, xhosas, Zulus and so on.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 16, 2022
How are those people not Yorubas? grin cheesy grin.. I mean everything is clear here.

And if they're not Yorubas, then what tribe are they?

And you don't need to show me pictures of other ethnic groups because right now we're only talking about the Yoruba tribe and.
BanyXchi:
the people in this picture are not Yorubas... I can show you pictures of malinkes, hausas, benins, Chinese, whites in random pics with breasts open. This doesn't change the fact that Yorubas have one of the most diverse attires in the continent.. Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to European countries for centuries....The Brits that traveled across Yoruba country said that yoruba made better clothes than the ones made in Liverpool. Search it up on google.. Those yoruba wooden artifacts depict men or women practicing ritual and religious ceremonies.... The ethnic groups known to be naked where Ibos, xhosas, Zulus and so on.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 6:11pm On Dec 16, 2022
Sarah Forbes was a Yoruba girl whom Queen Victoria grew fond of and took her in as her God daughter, her real birth name was Aina from Oyo state.
BanyXchi:
the people in this picture are not Yorubas... I can show you pictures of malinkes, hausas, benins, Chinese, whites in random pics with breasts open. This doesn't change the fact that Yorubas have one of the most diverse attires in the continent.. Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to European countries for centuries....The Brits that traveled across Yoruba country said that yoruba made better clothes than the ones made in Liverpool. Search it up on google.. Those yoruba wooden artifacts depict men or women practicing ritual and religious ceremonies.... The ethnic groups known to be naked where Ibos, xhosas, Zulus and so on.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 6:31pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
How are those people not Yorubas? grin cheesy grin.. I mean everything is clear here.

And if they're not Yorubas, then what tribe are they?

And you don't need to show me pictures of other ethnic groups because right now we're only talking about the Yoruba tribe and.
you're the one that posted any pic without source in the background.... I have to mention other ethnic groups and races because it's dumb to think Yorubas started covering in the 1800s.. lol you're very funny... Do you know anything about the yorubas at allhuh Pls read well before coming to say that... Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to Portugal since the 1400s, just search it up on google... We literally civilized and influenced the attires of many ethnic groups in Nigeria....I've seen pictures and read history of many ethnic groups in Africa, I know those that are naked because it was well documented. Even if those people in the picture were Yorubas (they aren't)it won't change that fact. Which ethnic group are you from btw? I know all the ethnic groups in the SADC region were naked.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 6:33pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
Sarah Forbes was a Yoruba girl whom Queen Victoria grew fond of and took her in as her God daughter, her real birth name was Aina from Oyo state.
you don't need to tell me about Forbes, I know about her ok? She was a yoruba little girl captured by the Dahomies but saved by a British slave trader and taken to the Queen... There was only one single picture of Forbes. None of those women in the picture was her.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 7:28pm On Dec 16, 2022
I'm not arguing with the fact that Yoruba people were exporting fabrics, but I'm saying that's how they used to dress back in the 1800.

You know very well that a person can sell alcohol, but not consume it.
BanyXchi:
you're the one that posted any pic without source in the background.... I have to mention other ethnic groups and races because it's dumb to think Yorubas started covering in the 1800s.. lol you're very funny... Do you know anything about the yorubas at allhuh Pls read well before coming to say that... Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to Portugal since the 1400s, just search it up on google... We literally civilized and influenced the attires of many ethnic groups in Nigeria....I've seen pictures and read history of many ethnic groups in Africa, I know those that are naked because it was well documented. Even if those people in the picture were Yorubas (they aren't)it won't change that fact. Which ethnic group are you from btw? I know all the ethnic groups in the SADC region were naked.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 7:32pm On Dec 16, 2022
If those people are not the Yoruba women, then who are they?

And how come the Yoruba artifacts are dressed exactly the same way as them?
BanyXchi:
you don't need to tell me about Forbes, I know about her ok? She was a yoruba little girl captured by the Dahomies but saved by a British slave trader and taken to the Queen... There was only one single picture of Forbes. None of those women in the picture was her.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 7:47pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
I'm not arguing with the fact that Yoruba people were exporting fabrics, but I'm saying that's how they used to dress back in the 1800.

You know very well that a person can sell alcohol, but not consume it.
sorry but you sound like a troll... There are several pictures and drawings of Yorubas from centuries back made by Europeans. It won't take you 3mins to check them out... You can even get the infos on this forum. Check up threads about Yoruba arts, architecture... Which ethnic group are you from?
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 7:52pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
If those people are not the Yoruba women, then who are they?

And how come the Yoruba artifacts are dressed exactly the same way as them?
lol you sent a picture here and you're still asking me who are they? Where did you get this picture from? There should be labels, source and authors to old pictures like this.

There are several types of yoruba artifacts. And Yorubas had the best artifacts in Africa that could only be rivaled by Egypt..... As you can see, those artifacts are wooden figures of women carrying objects likes pots and women on their knees... Like I said earlier, if you watch Yoruba movies, sometimes you'll see instances where some women go naked or half naked if they are occultic or in a ritual ceremony... It's part of yoruba culture, sometimes they even paint or draw tattoos on their bodies. Do you hate Yorubas?? If you don't you wouldn't be asking questions like this, you can just search them up yourself...
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 7:55pm On Dec 16, 2022
Already I know about the Yoruba arts.

There's no need for me to get info from this forum because it's clear that most of you are in denial in here.

You're not answering my questions sir.

If those women are not from the Yoruba tribe, then what tribe are they from?

And how come they're dressed exactly the same way as those Yoruba artifacts?
BanyXchi:
sorry but you sound like a troll... There are several pictures and drawings of Yorubas from centuries back made by Europeans. It won't take you 3mins to check them out... You can even get the infos on this forum. Check up threads about Yoruba arts, architecture... Which ethnic group are you from?
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by hardon1(m): 8:16pm On Dec 16, 2022
Xchii:
you're very ignorant. And you shouldn't generalize your selfhate on others. Yes several ethnic groups were isolated from other civilizations for thousands of years and it affected the technological advancement of SSA but that doesn't mean others are better than us, it only means other benefitted from trade of ideas, technology, culture and so on... Example. The English, french, germans all never had any writing system. The Romans you mentioned got their writing system from the Greeks while the Greeks got theirs from the Phoenicians, the Phoenicians and Arabs all got their writing system from the ancient Egyptians. If you read carefully you'll understand that most of these civilizations were Mediterranean Civilizations that were able to trade among themselves for a long time and influenced themselves. Even the East Asians benefitted from the global trade back then with the silk road networks... But black Africans didn't because of the large barrier i.e the Sahara desert. Infact most people didn't know the Americas existed until the Portuguese started using the Atlantic ocean. Pls just read history bro, stop coming here to push anti-black rhetorics. Global academical researchers, historians, anthropologists all concluded that race has nothing to do with progress has far as history is concern. Nature didn't do anything to us, if you're suffering from depression or anything pls seek help.
I though I was arguing with a sane human. Since you can not hold an argument without throwing insult, it tells who you are.

No need to wast my energy
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 9:25pm On Dec 16, 2022
Samantha123:
Already I know about the Yoruba arts.

There's no need for me to get info from this forum because it's clear that most of you are in denial in here.

You're not answering my questions sir.

If those women are not from the Yoruba tribe, then what tribe are they from?

And how come they're dressed exactly the same way as those Yoruba artifacts?
I already answered your questions... You're the one that couldn't answer mine... You sound like a troll. I won't reply you anymore.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 9:37pm On Dec 16, 2022
You didn't answer any of my questions and there's no need for you to call me a troll for refusing to answer my questions.

The bottom line is that the Yoruba women wore revealing clothes back in the 1800, something that you guys were never told about.. you can be in denial all you want, but don't forget that the internet never forgets.

Goodbye.
BanyXchi:
I already answered your questions... You're the one that couldn't answer mine... You sound like a troll. I won't reply you anymore.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 7:49am On Dec 17, 2022
Samantha123:
You didn't answer any of my questions and there's no need for you to call me a troll for refusing to answer my questions.

The bottom line is that the Yoruba women wore revealing clothes back in the 1800, something that you guys were never told about.. you can be in denial all you want, but don't forget that the internet never forgets.

Goodbye.
the only internet that never forgets is in your illusions. Smart people know they only need to Google to know Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to Europe since the 1400s. Our women were never naked like ibos, Zulus, ndebeles and the rest. Yes you're a troll because I answered your question and you still continue to say the same thing. Which one have I not answered?? It's almost like you're biased and you don't want to learn at all. You already made your mind made up and you probably hate Yorubas. And you couldn't even mention your ethnic group?
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 8:19am On Dec 17, 2022
Oh! Noo, I love the Yoruba people and I have a Yoruba friend, I've been asking him to teach me the Yoruba language but he always comes up with excuses.

Me telling the truth does not mean I hate you guys and why mention my ethnic group when we're not talking about it?

And I don't remember you answering any of my questions.

Why are those women dressed the same way as the Yoruba artifacts if they're not Yoruba women?

BanyXchi:
the only internet that never forgets is in your illusions. Smart people know they only need to Google to know Yorubas have been exporting fabrics to Europe since the 1400s. Our women were never naked like ibos, Zulus, ndebeles and the rest. Yes you're a troll because I answered your question and you still continue to say the same thing. Which one have I not answered?? It's almost like you're biased and you don't want to learn at all. You already made your mind made up and you probably hate Yorubas. And you couldn't even mention your ethnic group?
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 8:22am On Dec 17, 2022
Samantha123:
Oh! Noo, I love the Yoruba people and I have a Yoruba friend, I've been asking him to teach me the Yoruba language but he always comes up with excuses.

Me telling the truth does not mean I hate you guys and why mention my ethnic group when we're not talking about it?

And I don't remember you answering any of my questions.

Why are those women dressed the same way as the Yoruba artifacts if they're not Yoruba women?
There's no truth in that misinformation. I already answered that question. Idk about your yoruba friend, but like I said earlier on you are biased and you don't want to learn. why can't you just search it up and see how long Yoruba have been making and exporting several fabrics. Pls watch any yoruba movie on YT that has to deal with Iseese (yoruba religion). Also what ethnic group are you from.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 8:30am On Dec 17, 2022
There's no need for me to go and watch Yoruba movies because you guys have already changed your ways of dressing and you're in denial of how your ancestors used to dress, again I've heard that most Yoruba movies are scary and I hate horror movies.

If you can answer my questions first, I'll then tell you my ethnic group, but I'm neither Zulu, Xhosa, or Ndebele. grin grin grin
BanyXchi:
I already answered that question. Pls watch any yoruba movie on YT that has to deal with Iseese (yoruba religion). Also what ethnic group are you from.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by BanyXchi: 8:36am On Dec 17, 2022
Samantha123:
There's no need for me to go and watch Yoruba movies because you guys have already changed your ways of dressing and you're in denial of how your ancestors used to dress, again I've heard that most Yoruba movies are scary and I hate horror movies.

If you can answer my questions first, I'll then tell you my ethnic group, but I'm neither Zulu, Xhosa, or Ndebele. grin grin grin
Yorubas are not a monolith. There are several Yoruba tribes with their own attires. We are not in denial about how our ancestors used go dress. You're the one ashamed to mention the tribe you hail from.... Why do I need to deny something that can be researched. Like I said earlier on its obvious you are biased.i keep telling you go search up yoruba attires and when we've been wearing them and you're still arguing with me...if you can't mention the tribe you hail from, abeg shift.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 9:13am On Dec 17, 2022
WHY ARE THOSE WOMEN DRESSED THE SAME WAY AS THE YORUBA ARTIFACTS IF THEY'RE NOT YORUBAShuh??

Answer this one.

And don't tell me to go and research about the attires you guys started wearing in the 1900.
BanyXchi:
Yorubas are not a monolith. There are several Yoruba tribes with their own attires. We are not in denial about how our ancestors used go dress. You're the one ashamed to mention the tribe you hail from.... Why do I need to deny something that can be researched. Like I said earlier on its obvious you are biased.i keep telling you go search up yoruba attires and when we've been wearing them and you're still arguing with me...if you can't mention the tribe you hail from, abeg shift.
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by habsydiamond(m): 12:31pm On Dec 18, 2022
Samantha123:
Sir, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you when you say the Yoruba people didn't open their body anyhow.

I don't understand Pidgin, buy I'm guessing that you're saying that the Yoruba people always covered their bodies.. I have proof that they wore revealing clothes more than 100 years ago.
please share the proof oo
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by Nobody: 12:34pm On Dec 18, 2022
I already did.
habsydiamond:
please share the proof oo
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by habsydiamond(m): 12:35pm On Dec 18, 2022
Gerrard59:
Maybe Yorubas but not all ethnic groups in the sub-continent dress similarly. Cultures in Southern Africa are even way more liberal.
that's true... south africa comes to mind
Re: Will African Countries And Black Nations Survive Without White Men by habsydiamond(m): 12:40pm On Dec 18, 2022
Samantha123:
I already did.
how did you know that they are from the yoruba tribe. Those in the pictures u shared are Africans but I don't think they are Nigerians. They are probably zulus from SouthAfrica showcasing their cultural heritage
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