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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Raheeqilmaktoom: 4:31pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:

Where should I do the research if not social media? Social media is heavily dominated by very enlightening people. If social media prefers Peter Obi then it obvious the educated and sensible ones prefer Peter Obi. How else do I do the research then?

What's the % of people using social media have bachelor's degree? What's the % of that are educated without using social media?

There are thousands (or millions) of people who are educated and who are not on social media, having an SM account is not a measure that certifies a person as educated and not having one does not disqualifies one's education.

What's the composition of the people who take part in online polls that show Obi with significant lead? 80% igbo, is that how you derive objective analysis and inferences in an election where a). The igbo are the third ethinicity in voting strength? b). Majority of those rooting are people that are not even going to vote?
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by IgOga(m): 4:31pm On Dec 16, 2022
grin

Whay call Cameroon Kamerun...wetin dem do you grin grin grin grin Nor let Atiku vex for you o grin
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Raheeqilmaktoom: 4:33pm On Dec 16, 2022
amanda2013:
Lol. Obi will struggle to make a dent in south south you say? You are not serious and you know it. Well whatever makes you sleep well at night.

Lol, I just won't subtitute reality for online hype and noise.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by OnyeAshuaUru: 4:34pm On Dec 16, 2022
See BATstards trying so hard to promote their deceptions.
Peter Obi is the next President of Nigeria.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by oluwole1211(m): 4:36pm On Dec 16, 2022
I beg enough of this unnecessary and unrealistic permutations, let's wait until election day and let the electorate decide.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by PeterObi4LP: 4:46pm On Dec 16, 2022
OP read my lips... Tinubu will/can never win the election come 2023 dead or alive.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by houzing: 4:52pm On Dec 16, 2022
Moh247:
cool


Obi governed Anambra State,

Tinubu governed Lagos

Kwankwaso governed Kano State



Obi has a second class in Philosophy from Nsuka

Tinubu has a Bsc honours in Chicago state university

Kwankwaso has a PhD in Engineering UK

Tinubu worked with Delliote, ExxonMobil became a Senator and A Governor

Obi worked as a director in a commercial bank owned by his family

Kwankwaso worked as a Civil Servants, became a Senator, Governor and later a Minister


Do you in all honesty think Obi can fool everyone with all this annoying insult and propaganda?!

Make una dey fear God small small nau

I honestly tried to watch Obi on many platform since he began campaigning and I can tell you.. Atiku is far sound than Obi, Kwankwaso is not even in his class, even Sowore has far more indepth knowledge of Nigeria
.

How many governors left N75 billion for their successors?

Honestly answer and you have the reason PO is better than the 3 combined.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Moh247: 4:55pm On Dec 16, 2022
houzing:


How many governors left N75 billion for their successors?

Honestly answer and you have the reason PO is better than the 3 combined.

Ladoja and Yahaya bello also saved money from FAAC account in private banks

Banks made money through intrest, workers refused to get salary, no projects completed

Guess what this Governors made huge money from 18% to 20% intrest rate bank charges
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by kingjoe(m): 4:56pm On Dec 16, 2022
Moh247:
cool


Obi governed Anambra State,

Tinubu governed Lagos

Kwankwaso governed Kano State



Obi has a second class in Philosophy from Nsuka

Tinubu has a Bsc honours in Chicago state university

Kwankwaso has a PhD in Engineering UK

Tinubu worked with Delliote, ExxonMobil became a Senator and A Governor

Obi worked as a director in a commercial bank owned by his family

Kwankwaso worked as a Civil Servants, became a Senator, Governor and later a Minister


Do you in all honesty think Obi can fool everyone with all this annoying insult and propaganda?!

Make una dey fear God small small nau

I honestly tried to watch Obi on many platform since he began campaigning and I can tell you.. Atiku is far sound than Obi, Kwankwaso is not even in his class, even Sowore has far more indepth knowledge of Nigeria


You are not intelligent at all.
Tinubu received pension as governor
Obi doesn't.
Tinubu receives contract from Lagos.
Obi doesn't from Anambra.
Tinubu believes in godfatherism obi doesn't.
Tinubu s wife and kids are fully involved in politics and control.
Obi's children and family are independent of govt contract and politics.
Tinubu lives in Lagos with various mansions spanning acres of land.
Obi lives in a rented apartment in lagos.owns a building occupying 2plots of land.im aambara
Tinubu lives a luxury life with private jets obi doesn't.
Who should you trust on the nation resources


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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Odibembem: 5:05pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:

Where should I do the research if not social media? Social media is heavily dominated by very enlightening people. If social media prefers Peter Obi then it obvious the educated and sensible ones prefer Peter Obi. How else do I do the research then?

Obi is the candidate of the shallow thinker who believes cost cutting would solve our problems whereas what we have is a revenue problem which Obi has no clue how to solve. Obi is the candidate of the riff raffs, the yahoo boys, empty headed easy virtue ladies who have heard that the fashionable thing on social media is to be Obidient. But the deep and critical thinker, the realist, the pragmatists and goal getters are all for Asiwaju. These goal getters control the political space, the power elites of the south west and north and they are going to slam dunk Asiwaju into Aso Rock. Would be a miracle of Obi wins three states. Realistically he may win Anambra and then Edo and if u push it, maybe Abia but that's all he can do, no more !

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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Nefort: 5:25pm On Dec 16, 2022
Raheeqilmaktoom:


What's the % of people using social media have bachelor's degree? What's the % of that are educated without using social media?

There are thousands (or millions) of people who are educated and who are not on social media, having an SM account is not a measure that certifies a person as educated and not having one does not disqualifies one's education.

What's the composition of the people who take part in online polls that show Obi with significant lead? 80% igbo, is that how you derive objective analysis and inferences in an election where a). The igbo are the third ethinicity in voting strength? b). Majority of those rooting are people that are not even going to vote?
First of all I never mentioned that having a social media account makes you educated. I only said educated people dominate social media platforms. When I say "educated" in this context I don't mean having a Bsc or master's degree or a PhD. I mean being enlightening and knowledgeable. Majority of people using social media fall into this category. This is only a small sample of the total number of educated people. But the interesting thing is that whatever result you get from the small sample of educated people on social media will still reflect the same result when you conduct a larger poll which includes all the educated people outside social media. These category of educated people have a similar opinion about life so the results outside social media will still be the same.

I find it funny and ignorant you mentioned social media is made up of 80% of Igbos. There was a time Nairaland did a census by ethnicity the result showed that Yorubas dominated Nairaland. But if you conduct a poll on Nairaland to chose between Tinubu and Peter Obi you will always see that Peter Obi wins the polls inspite of Yorubas being higher in number. Of course the reason is because they are mostly educated to see that Tinubu is a bad candidate. The same thing repeats on Twitter as well. Are you saying Twitter is also 80% Igbo?
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Fibonacci88: 5:32pm On Dec 16, 2022
Agbado urchins have changed tactics. Now they want to dampen obidient spirit by spinning nonsensical analysis. Our minds have already been made, February b4 6pm election day Buhari will congratulate Obi. Tinubu can drink snipper after that.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by yemex04(m): 5:36pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:

But how come a large percentage of the educated voters prefer Peter Obi? What do you think is the reason? Doesn't it tell you something?








"Educated voters" is very relative please & as a matter of fact this election circle has made me realize we have a very huge population of "educated illiterates''. In all sincerity, a truly educated or genuinely knowledgeable person would realize Obi isn't worth the hype seen around but it is understandable, the hype is majorly by social media influencers & ENDSARS debacle.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 16, 2022
Tiniubu will never win this particular election peter obi will win it just be watching
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Arafat2022: 6:09pm On Dec 16, 2022
Don't be deceive Tinubu and Apc will never make it, evern the Northern States that are under APc they will never Vote Apc their Tinubu

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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Nefort: 6:17pm On Dec 16, 2022
yemex04:









"Educated voters" is very relative please & as a matter of fact this election circle has made me realize we have a very huge population of "educated illiterates''. In all sincerity, a truly educated or genuinely knowledgeable person would realize Obi isn't worth the hype seen around but it is understandable, the hype is majorly by social media influencers & ENDSARS debacle.
Of course Peter Obi is not perfect. But is Tinubu or Atiku better? Just be sincere.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by blahc007: 8:13pm On Dec 16, 2022
Kingzeez10:


You mentioned all the crisis but you chose to ignore IPOB/ESN killings. I mean you igbos killing igbos. You're killing yourselves. Whose fault is that?
Criminals are everywhere.... criminals kill people... criminals destroy properties,
It's not today you started hearing of criminals terrorizing people .......

It's not your fault that it is happening...but the guy I responded to painted a terrible picture of Igbos killing northerners ....that's what I am trying to address
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Raheeqilmaktoom: 8:13pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:

First of all I never mentioned that having a social media account makes you educated. 1. I only said educated people dominate social media platforms. When I say "educated" in this context I don't mean having a Bsc or master's degree or a PhD. I mean being enlightening and knowledgeable. 2. Majority of people using social media fall into this category. This is only a small sample of the total number of educated people. But the interesting thing is that whatever result you get from the small sample of educated people on social media will still reflect the same result when you conduct a larger poll which includes all the educated people outside social media. 3. These category of educated people have a similar opinion about life so the results outside social media will still be the same.

4. I find it funny and ignorant you mentioned social media is made up of 80% of Igbos. There was a time Nairaland did a census by ethnicity the result showed that Yorubas dominated Nairaland. But if you conduct a poll on Nairaland to chose between Tinubu and Peter Obi you will always see that Peter Obi wins the polls inspite of Yorubas being higher in number. Of course the reason is because they are mostly educated to see that Tinubu is a bad candidate. The same thing repeats on Twitter as well. Are you saying Twitter is also 80% Igbo?

1. I beg to differ. For anyone following use of online forums in Nigeria over the past decade must have observed this. They may be educated with B.sc and M.scs, they may have travelled to different places but a lot of the people using SM are very, very ignorant. The major importance of education and enlightment is objectivity and a great deal of that mob lack it.

Check different threads and see the 'so called' educated people making assumptions that a nursery pupil won't make. The coiners of the term Zombidients were not just using it to insult that mob but also show people who are loud and empty, incapable of simple critical reasoning.

2. Addressed in my point above, if you have any doubt, check threads or create some yourself, you will be appalled by what you see.

The premises you were trying to make are both weak assumptions: that most SM users are educated and objective and for that, they support Obi is not proven by any fact.

3. Carry out a survey on educated/enlightened people from Nigeria's 3 main regions and you will discard your assertion yourself.

4. Never mentioned that igbos make up 80% SM usage, I said people taking part in online polls and I stand to be corrected. It good to make reference to the some didn't scenario mentioned earlier, they behaved like a mob (they were) and attack anything that goes contrary to their thought process, multiple threads and tweets have been made callling on them to take those polls as do or die to give their followers a semblance of strength.

How many northerners do you genuinely think we're taking part in those polls?

Besides, if those polls were true in who's getting what where, do you seriously feel the current political trajectory would hold? Everyone is mocking the Obi horde, make the loudest noise online and be nowhere to be found offline.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Raheeqilmaktoom: 8:14pm On Dec 16, 2022
yemex04:









"Educated voters" is very relative please & as a matter of fact this election circle has made me realize we have a very huge population of "[b]educated illiterates''. [/b]In all sincerity, a truly educated or genuinely knowledgeable person would realize Obi isn't worth the hype seen around but it is understandable, the hype is majorly by social media influencers & ENDSARS debacle.

This is the term I was looking for. You marvel at their ignorance.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Raheeqilmaktoom: 8:22pm On Dec 16, 2022
houzing:


How many governors left N75 billion for their successors?

Honestly answer and you have the reason PO is better than the 3 combined.

See the thought process of a typical obidient.

I used to say I would vote for Tinubu ahead of Kwankwaso and Obi. Both of this guys rely on their kindergarten and mediocre knowledge of building roads, they think that's what develops a society.

Societies develop when systems and policies are put in place to derive growth without a govt needing to literally be on its toes, just overseeing and regulating.

Presidency is not about building roads and schools, it more about policy direction and the candidate that has shown understanding of that is none other than Atiku (hate to admit that, but it's the truth). He knows you can achieve a lot by just a change in policy than by building roads and commissioning fly overs (bot saying they are not important).
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by 00FFT00(m): 8:38pm On Dec 16, 2022
Moh247:
cool


Obi governed Anambra State,

Tinubu governed Lagos

Kwankwaso governed Kano State



Obi has a second class in Philosophy from Nsuka

Tinubu has a Bsc honours in Chicago state university

Kwankwaso has a PhD in Engineering UK

Tinubu worked with Delliote, ExxonMobil became a Senator and A Governor

Obi worked as a director in a commercial bank owned by his family

Kwankwaso worked as a Civil Servants, became a Senator, Governor and later a Minister


Do you in all honesty think Obi can fool everyone with all this annoying insult and propaganda?!

Make una dey fear God small small nau

I honestly tried to watch Obi on many platform since he began campaigning and I can tell you.. Atiku is far sound than Obi, Kwankwaso is not even in his class, even Sowore has far more indepth knowledge of Nigeria



.

The highlighted lies above are yet to be substantiated. And Obi excelled in the private sector where Tinubu dared not venture.

He was:

Chairman: Board of Nigeria Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
Chairman: Fidelity Bank Plc.
Chairman: Guardian Express Mortgage Bank, Ltd.
Chairman: Future Views Securities, Ltd.
Chairman: Paymaster Nigeria Plc.
Chairman: Next International (Nigeria) Ltd
Director: Guardian Express Bank Plc.
Director: Chams Nigeria Plc.
Director: Emerging Capital Ltd
Director: Card Centre Plc
Member: Nigerian Economic Summit Group (NESG)
Member: Nigerian Chartered Institute of Bankers

Verifiably attended:

The University of Nigeria, Nsukka (B.A. Philosophy)
Lagos Business School, Nigeria (Chief Executive Program)
Harvard Business School, Boston, U.S.A. (Mid to Mid Marketing)
Harvard Business School, Boston, U.S.A. (Changing the Game)
London School of Economics (Financial Mgmt/Business Policy)
Columbia Business School, New York, U.S.A. (Marketing Mgmt )
Institute for Management Development, Switzerland (Senior Executive Program)
Institute for Management Development, Switzerland (Break-Through Program for CEOs)
Kellogg Graduate School of Management, U.S.A. (Advanced Executive Program)
Kellogg School of Management U.S.A. (Global Advanced Mgmt Program)
Oxford University: Said Business School, (Advanced Mgmt& Leadership Program)
Cambridge University: George Business School (Advanced Leadership Program)


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/10/peter-obi-a-complete-profile/

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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by OsunOriginal: 8:44pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:
I am not an expert in politics and I wish Peter Obi would win but when I look at all the northern states ruled by APC as indicated with light blue in the attached image, it gives me a feeling Tinubu has an advantage in the north and will likely win most of the northern votes. The south West votes plus the little scraps he would get from the south-south and south-east might be enough to seal his victory.

Most of the uneducated voters are in the north. They don't know anything about Peter Obi because they don't follow the news media or social media where his ovation is loud. These are the kind of voters that can be scammed using religion or one stupid thing or the other. These are the kind of voters that gives Tinubu a chance. The fact that APC governors rule those states is enough to influence those voters to vote for APC/Tinubu.

If Tinubu eventually wins the election it will finally prove our problem is not about having bad leaders as many will always say, but having a large pool of uneducated voters who outnumber the educated ones. And these uneducated voters end up voting for bad leaders.

So, the SW voters too are also uneducated? I laugh when these zombidients ignorantly open their mouth and spew trash. These losers won't learn.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Christistruth00: 8:47pm On Dec 16, 2022
blahc007:

Ok
I believe with your moniker, you represent the truth....but it I am ashamed you aren't a truth lover.

Easterners suffered in the hands of northerners years back; Kano crisis, Jos crisis and other northern states....these crisis destroyed lives and properties......yet you voted in Buhari in 2015.

Christians have suffered in the hands of Fulani herdsmen during the farmers herders clash...before we could understand clearly that these weren't just herdsmen, but bandits....though it took your buhari years to declare and treat them terrorists....you voted buhari in 2019.

What has northerners not done, yet they are in power....another northerner is here....I trust you will still support him.

You and I knows that the terrorists in the east are inflicting injury on all.

Northerners have suffered it, easterners have suffered more.....
If you Don't want to vote Obi, it fine, you have a candidate you should vote.....vote him in peace.....Obi wins or not, all lives will keep moving.....you are in Nigeria, you must feel the
Impact of who ever you voted....

But please stop linking the issue in the east to the Igbos....
That's not who we are.....you know the truth about everything happening.....you know how it started....

Stop being a fool.....



If you were a Lover Of Truth you would not watch IPOB and Nnamdi Kanu drag your People
Into the same Calamity that Ojukwu dragged 3 Million Precious Souls that perished for nothing into
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Ekpeitit(m): 8:57pm On Dec 16, 2022
Only a fool would believe that someone from the South East can win the presidential election in Nigeria right now. Majority of the voters are in the North and Northerners will never vote for any candidate from the South East, even if Obi was the candidate of PDP he would have still lost.Obi was never and is not a contender in this election, every good politician in Nigeria knows that.Soludo is not a fool,even Kalu said the only time he would run for president is if the two parties zone it to the South East. It's okay for IPOB people and Peter Obi to dream but dreams don't win elections in Nigeria. For an Igbo man to win election in Nigeria he will have to at least win the South West and that will never happen due to the insults and the kind of politics South East people play. This is the reality of Nigerian politics but some people don't believe in reality.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Odibembem: 9:05pm On Dec 16, 2022
[quote author=kingjoe post=119204360][/quote]

Did you just say Obi doesn't believe in godfatherism? How did Obiano become governor? Or u don't know the man was never a politician but a Director in a bank Obi had large shareholding? Obi imposed him on APGA and Anambra and when d man became gov tried to control him but failed hence they parted ways. Obi is a failed godfather.
You said Obi children are what? Why did he hide assets in the name of his daughter in Virgin Island as exposed by Pandora Papers?
You say Obi doesn't collect contract or pension from d state? Yet he invested d money of d state in his private biz, he benefitted from that investment, that's called conflict of interest, in d US or UK he goes to jail, in China, they execute him.
Obi has no record of performance in Anambra, Chris Ngige did better roads than him, grew IGR more than he did, Obiano also grew IGR more than he did. Obi has d unenviable record of not conducting LG elections all through his tenure till d last year. So what happened to their allocations? Abeggi
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by MarketDispatch: 11:24pm On Dec 16, 2022
Nefort:
I am n.

Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by faceLAGOS: 11:29pm On Dec 16, 2022
For INEC not to disqualify Tinubu for all the controversies wey dey around am, I fit bet say na the man go win.

He (apc) already put the system in place to enable him rig win the election.

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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by IGBOSON1: 11:39pm On Dec 16, 2022
DMerciful:
What did Tinubu do as governor? Or you think this propaganda of Tinubu built Lagos will fly?

Tinubu is too shady to be president of any country! There's no way Nigerians will knowingly elect a fraudulent and extremely corrupt person

Hehehehehe grin grin grin

Bros, who said anything about ELECTING!?
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by tiger28: 12:55am On Dec 17, 2022
Raheeqilmaktoom:


Your problem Obi supporters is that you are dumb, tribalistic and naive.

The way you carry your Obi madness for head thinking he is the best thing since the big bang occurred is the way other's genuinely feel their candidates are, this is not IPOB mad zone where Kanu's words are revelation from heaven. People have different perspectives and worldviews and they are not wrong when they don't support your view, learn to consider that.

The possibility of Tinubu or Atiku winning this election is 95%, Obi's victory is only remotely possible in your own alternate reality. The way you hype Obi to the high heavens is the same way others see him as worse than the devil. Learn to acknowledge different perspectives.

VERY sadly, ibos don't have a PLAN B.

They have abused Tinubu and Atiku .....and one of these two will be the President of Nigeria. E go hot well well for them.

Next na to dey shout Biafla Biafla!

Ibos no get Brain jor!

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Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Solsix(m): 5:53am On Dec 17, 2022
Moh247:
cool


Obi governed Anambra State,

Tinubu governed Lagos

Kwankwaso governed Kano State



Obi has a second class in Philosophy from Nsuka

Tinubu has a Bsc honours in Chicago state university

Kwankwaso has a PhD in Engineering UK

Tinubu worked with Delliote, ExxonMobil became a Senator and A Governor

Obi worked as a director in a commercial bank owned by his family

Kwankwaso worked as a Civil Servants, became a Senator, Governor and later a Minister


Do you in all honesty think Obi can fool everyone with all this annoying insult and propaganda?!

Make una dey fear God small small nau

I honestly tried to watch Obi on many platform since he began campaigning and I can tell you.. Atiku is far sound than Obi, Kwankwaso is not even in his class, even Sowore has far more indepth knowledge of Nigeria



.
Sorry obi owned the bank. He never worked there as director, get your facts right
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Nefort: 6:08pm On Dec 17, 2022
OsunOriginal:


So, the SW voters too are also uneducated? I laugh when these zombidients ignorantly open their mouth and spew trash. These losers won't learn.
Of course we have uneducated voters everywhere in Nigeria and it's much higher in the north. When you combine those uneducated voters in the South West and then spiced with tribal affiliation it should be enough to make Tinubu win there.
Re: It Seems Tinubu Might Win The Election by Perfectbeing(m): 6:34pm On Dec 17, 2022
Raheeqilmaktoom:


Your problem Obi supporters is that you are dumb, tribalistic and naive.

The way you carry your Obi madness for head thinking he is the best thing since the big bang occurred is the way other's genuinely feel their candidates are, this is not IPOB mad zone where Kanu's words are revelation from heaven. People have different perspectives and worldviews and they are not wrong when they don't support your view, learn to consider that.

The possibility of Tinubu or Atiku winning this election is 95%, Obi's victory is only remotely possible in your own alternate reality. The way you hype Obi to the high heavens is the same way others see him as worse than the devil. Learn to acknowledge different perspectives.
The fact that some of them (including Obi himself) think that Nigeria didn't qualify for WC because Obi isn't President shows how foolish humans can be.

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