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MufasaLion:
There's a difference between the sexual rapist, drug dealers and the financial/emotional rapist. All leave a scar on their victims and we can't quantify it.

Yes, you're right, RAPE IS RAPE! Although I don't believe it is spiritual.

When I mean spiritual. . . .I mean it attacks just not your physical being, but your spiritual entity. You will question GOD and all you hold dear in your spiritual beliefs.

Nothing to do with witches or wizards. Or 'VILLAGE PEOPLE'!

KanwuliaExtra:
And who was campaigning for a sex offender, fraudster or criminal?
Sometimes, it is good to step back and look at things closely.
NOBODY campaigned for a sex offender, fraudster or criminal ON THIS THREAD OR ANY OTHER.

All people were trying to do was to give another chance to re-visit a conviction and look at what evidence the convict had been sharing. Does that mean you are supporting a sex-offender, fraudster or criminal? NO!

You only did that because of your emotional investment in the case(some where insinuating financial gain). . . .gosh! Who wants financial gain from a convict whose funds are probably depleted to minus ZERO balance due to legal fees?

You think the US does officials are this jobless and illiterate?

You seem to be getting me wrong. What brought about the "campaign for a sex offender" were the questions about his family, kids and wife. Kindly read back our comments again. I wasn't referring to anyone on this thread or you.

Kindly read and understand.

MufasaLion:
Someone like him don't put their private life in the public. He knows he's a monster and wouldn't dare to put them in harm's way. Ironically, he was also a predator to them, just that it didn't manifest.

Only with Africans.
If it were foreign countries. . . . . the family members will be granting interviews to explain how he fell off the psycho-social wagon of life.
Even in Japan. . . his pictures are there.
Will they hide for ever?

MufasaLion:
You seem to be getting me wrong. What brought about the "campaign for a sex offender" were the questions about his family, kids and wife. Kindly read back our comments again. I wasn't referring to anyone on this thread or you.

Kindly read and understand.

My question to you was. . . .who is campaigning for a sex offender/fraudster or criminal on or off this thread?
I can only think within the context of this thread because MANY HAVE EXPRESSED SUCH SENTIMENTS HERE.

What do you mean by 'campaign'? To me, it means 'support'. Ok. What kind of support?

What does the fact finding mission about his familial background got to do with the notion of 'a campaign' here?
Totally unrelated.

KanwuliaExtra:
Only with Africans.
If it were foreign countries. . . . . the family members will be granting interviews to explain how he fell off the psycho-social wagon of life.
Even in Japan. . . his pictures are there.
Will they hide for ever?

No, they won't hide forever but maybe longer than imagined. In fact, it's good his kids are not in the spotlight. Their childhood shouldn't be tainted with their father's wrong decisions in life.

MufasaLion:
No, they won't hide forever but maybe longer than imagined. In fact, it's good his kids are not in the spotlight. Their childhood shouldn't be tainted with their father's wrong decisions in life.

WRONG!

They should not be protected. . . the victim's and her family were not.

KanwuliaExtra:
My question to you was. . . .who is campaigning for a sex offender/fraudster or criminal on or off this thread?
I can only think within the context of this thread because MANY HAVE EXPRESSED SUCH SENTIMENTS HERE.

What do you mean by 'campaign'? To me, it means 'support'. Ok what kind of support?

This is simple, you asked about his family, origin, kids and all. So, I responded by telling you that nobody (I mean, family, wife, kids, relatives, friends) will be ready or willing to campaign for someone like him, most especially a big case like that. I have no business with anyone on this thread supporting or not supporting him.

If you read my comments from the beginning of our engagement, you will understand but it seems you couldn't do that. Kindly do so.

MufasaLion:
This is simple, you asked about his family, origin, kids and all. So, I responded by telling you that nobody (I mean, family, wife, kids, relatives, friends) will be ready or willing to campaign for someone like him, most especially a big case like that. I have no business with anyone on this thread supporting or not supporting him.

If you read my comments from the beginning of our engagement, you will understand but it seems you couldn't do that. Kindly do so.

Ok. I misunderstand. Let me restate my point too. The word campaign is misleading to me.

This thread started as A CAMPAIGN DRIVE. . . which people mistook for a 'support' for a rapist. WRONG!

The family speaking on the incident does not constitute a campaign on only level. If at all, it should be on the level of apologizing or supporting the victim and her family. Why must every interaction be termed under a 'campaign'?

You can come out and relate with the incident and perhaps we can get an incite on this psyche of the perpetrator. It would give some humanity to his existence. Simple!

KanwuliaExtra:
WRONG!

They should not be protected. . . the victim's and her family were not.

The kids were never in the spotlight because the guy never put them online before the crime was committed. You shouldn't drag them into it. Their father committed the crime, not them.

The victim and her family were in the spotlight because there was no other way around it. I mean, you can't be in a victim's position and be in hiding or under the radar. You need to be on the forefront to fight for justice, supported by your family and friends.

MufasaLion:
The kids were never in the spotlight because the guy never put them online before the crime was committed. You shouldn't drag them into it. Their father committed the crime, not them.

The victim and her family were in the spotlight because there was no other way around it. I mean, you can't be in a victim's position and be in hiding or under the radar. You need to be in the forefront to fight for justice, supported by your family and friends.

Life does not work like that. You can't drag someone's child out in public by defiling her and then protect yours. No one cares really. But what are they being protected from? Reality? The sooner they learn to live it, the better. Early therapy is a good thing.

KanwuliaExtra:
Life does not work like that. You can't drag someone's child out in public by defiling her and then protect yours. No one cares really. But what are they being protected from? Reality? The sooner they learn to live it, the better. Early therapy is a good thing.

That shouldn't be anybody's concern. They were/are not in the spotlight and nobody can drag them into it legally. Leave it at that.

Whatever happens in the future after they become aware of their father's past shouldn't be anyone's concern. It's theirs to deal with.

MufasaLion:
That shouldn't be anybody's concern. They were/are not in the spotlight and nobody can drag them into it legally. Leave it at that.

Whatever happens in the future after they become aware of their father's past shouldn't be anyone's concern. It's theirs to deal with.

Fine. All I am stating is that, he needs some kind of family connection at this time. . . . Very important in a self-cleansing journey.
When the going was ever-so-good. . . .they enjoyed the wealth abi?

My closing prayers: May I NEVER be abandoned by my family in my lowest points in life and VICE VERSA. . . AMEN.

KanwuliaExtra:
Ok. I misunderstand. Let me restate my point too. The word campaign is misleading to me.

This thread started as A CAMPAIGN DRIVE. . . which people mistook for a 'support' for a rapist. WRONG!

The family speaking on the incident does not constitute a campaign on only level. If at all, it should be on the level of apologizing or supporting the victim and her family. Why must every interaction be termed under a 'campaign'?

You can come out and relate with the incident and perhaps we can get an incite on this psyche of the perpetrator. It would give some humanity to his existence. Simple!

Yes, it would be a good thing if his family could come out to show support for the victim and apologize for the misdeed of the convict, but they hold no legal obligation to do so. Only Bah have the answers to why he had nobody come out.

MufasaLion:
Yes, it would be a good thing if his family could come out to show support for the victim and apologize for the misdeed of the convict, but they hold no[b] legal obligation[/b] to do so. Only Bah have the answers to why he had nobody come out.

No, but the have a FAMILIAL OBLIGATION to come and claim their misfit which they partially-created and brought into this world!
A.O.B. . . may not have all the answers.
He may be repeating THE CYCLE OF ABUSE he was exposed to.
You think only girls get raped?
Let me share this. This wan neva recover ra ra.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycGcaWyImCk

KanwuliaExtra:
Fine. All I am stating is that, he needs some kind of family connection at this time. . . . Very important in a self-cleansing journey.
When the going was ever-so-good. . . .they enjoyed the wealth abi?

My closing prayers: May I NEVER be abandoned by my family in my lowest points in life and VICE VERSA. . . AMEN.

It's not a matter of prayer. It's a matter of you doing the right thing at the right time so as to be rewarded when the time comes.

Last week, a lady made a comment about how his father abandoned her, her siblings and her mother at their lowest while the man was busy philandering. Now, the man is weak and sick but need financial support from the lady. The lady decided not to help him and I see nothing wrong in it.

So many men will go out to spend on other women meanwhile the kids and wife are starving at home. When such man have health challenges, him, his family and the society will want and expect the neglected wife and kids to care for him. That's wrong, hypocritical and wicked!

In life, you can't eat your cake and have it.

KanwuliaExtra:
No, but the have a FAMILIAL OBLIGATION to come and claim their misfit which they partially-created and brought into this world!
A.O.B. . . may not have all the answers.
He may be repeating THE CYCLE OF ABUSE he was exposed to.
You think only girls get raped?
Let me share this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycGcaWyImCk

Nobody have a familial obligation towards someone that might have been a nuisance right for younger days. Well, I wouldn't know why they didn't and haven't come out to the public, but for nobody to even come out says a lot about the convict, especially we Africans that live a communal life.

MufasaLion:
It's not a matter of prayer. It's a matter of you doing the right thing at the right time so as to be rewarded when the time comes.

Last week, a lady made a comment about how his father abandoned her, her siblings and her mother at their lowest while the man was busy philandering. Now, the man is weak and sick but need financial support from the lady. The lady decided not to help him and I see nothing wrong in it.

So many men will go out to spend on other women meanwhile the kids and wife are starving at home. When such man have health challenges, him, his family and the society will want and expect the neglected wife and kids to care for him. That's wrong, hypocritical and wicked!

In life, you can't eat your cake and have it.

Simplistic.
Not in our powers sometimes. Sometimes, life can throw you a 'satanic curve ball'. Growing up in ABJECT POVERTY is the greatest challenge of all in AFRICA. Dealing with your pain and dysfunction is only by the grace of higher powers. Which it the only salvation for A. O. B. He can't do it alone.

MufasaLion:
Nobody have a familial obligation towards someone that might have been a nuisance right for younger days. Well, I wouldn't know why they didn't and haven't come out to the public, but for nobody to even come out says a lot about the convict, especially we Africans that live a communal life.

True. If you don't know his story. . . . and the whole story. . . .you cannot judge him either.
How many Nigerians live communal lives?
Even when the wealthy send their children abroad to study and raise themselves?
Or is it the ones that live in abject poverty?

It is easy to say . . . . . but I can't question your beliefs.

KanwuliaExtra:
Simplistic.
Not in our powers sometimes. Sometimes, life can throw you a 'satanic curve ball'. Dealing with your pain and dysfunction is only by the grace of higher powers. Which it the only salvation for A. O. B. He can't do it alone.

The more you're bringing spirituality and demon into our conversation, the less I have interest in it. I would appreciate it if we could have a discourse based on the reality of things and not spirituality, grace, salvation or whatever.

KanwuliaExtra:
True. If you don't know his story. . . . and the whole story. . . .you cannot judge him either.

Hence the reason I said it earlier that only him can tell the world why he was/is abandoned by people.

But concerning the rape case that he's doing time for, he's GUILTY beyond reasonable doubt.

KanwuliaExtra:
True. If you don't know his story. . . . and the whole story. . . .you cannot judge him either.
How many Nigerians live communal lives?
Even when the wealthy send their children abroad to study and raise themselves?
Or is it the ones that live in abject poverty?

It is easy to say . . . . . but I can't question your beliefs.

Many Nigerians live a communal life and not only the ones living in abject poverty.

MufasaLion:
Hence the reason I said it earlier that only him can tell the world why he was/is abandoned by people.

But concerning the rape case that he's doing time for, he's GUILTY beyond reasonable doubt.

He is not there yet. He is still battling inner-demons. Only family member can give us another view to his childhood and upbringing.

He has been guilty for over 3 years from a JURY of 12. What else do you want to tell the world?
You are only re-stating the obvious. No argument there. He will lose ALL appeals.
I will not waste my time restating the obvious.
I spend way to much time on ID channel and watching 'stories that touch' on forensic science to get any form of emotional hard-on from such verdicts. Especially when IRON-CLAD FACTS have been presented.

Looking for new angles to discuss. . . .

MufasaLion:
Many Nigerians live a communal life and not only the ones living in abject poverty.

Sure. . . .and many live in dysfunction.
How many are truly healthy?
In Nigeria of all places?
Ta!

Where modern-day slavery is still practiced long after the white man has abandoned the trade?
We are still exporting our sisters and BROTHERS to Libya for prostitution. Some are even volunteering themselves for slavery across deserts and seas to avoid poverty.
All na 'communal living'.
I hear you bro!

KanwuliaExtra:
He is not there yet. He is still battling inner-demons. Only family member can give us another view to his childhood and upbringing.

He has been guilty for over 3 years from a JURY of 12. What else do you want to tell the world?
You are only re-stating the obvious. No argument there. He will lose ALL appeals.
I will not waste my time restating the obvious.
I spend way to much time on ID channel and watching 'stories that touch' on forensic science to get any form of emotional hard-on from such verdicts. Especially when IRON-CLAD FACTS have been presented.

Looking for new angles to discuss. . . .

He's not battling any demon. I knew this conversation would tilt this way and I strongly don't believe in any of such. I hate when people tend to bring out excuse or justify bad behaviors.

MufasaLion:
He's not battling any demon. I knew this conversation would tilt this way and I strongly don't believe in any of such. I hate when people tend to bring out excuse or justify bad behaviors.

. . . . .And your point is?

Did you state justification?
Just like my problem with the use of of the word 'campaign'.
Re-check please.

KanwuliaExtra:
. . . . .And your point is?

My point is he was found guilty with solid evidence and he was convicted for that. Also, that guy seem to be criminal-minded with all his footprints littered online. He might be a product of dysfunctional family and society, which I can agree with, but that still holds no water when one commits crimes. Do the crime and do the time.

It's not about any demon or spiritual whatever.

KanwuliaExtra:
. . . . .And your point is?

Did you state justification?
Just like my problem with the use of of the word 'campaign'.
Re-check please.

You're trying to justify his actions by bringing in "he's battling demon bla bla bla."

MufasaLion:
My point is he was found guilty with solid evidence and he was convicted for that. Also, that guy seem to be criminal-minded with all his footprints littered online. He might be a product of dysfunctional family and society, which I can agree with, but that still holds no water when one commits crimes. Do the crime and do the time.

It's not about any demon or spiritual whatever.

No apologies.

ANY ADULT(MALE OR FEMALE) WHO CAN FIND AND A CHILD(MALE OR FEMALE) SEXUALLY-ATTRACTIVE IS NOT ONLY MENTALLY-SICK BUT POSSESSED BY SPIRITUAL-DEMONS.
That includes the socio-cultural deviants AMONGST US that use religion to promote pedophilia. . . . marrying under-age girls!

Facts!

KanwuliaExtra:
No apologies.

ANY ADULT WHO WILL FIND A CHILD SEXUALLY-ATTRACTIVE NOT ONLY SICK BUT POSSESSED BY DEMONS.

Facts!

Seems he's found a new attorney (you) that can make the court overturn his conviction on the premise of DEMON POSSESSION.

Goodluck!

MufasaLion:
Seems he's found a new attorney (you) that can make the court overturn his conviction on the premise of DEMON POSSESSION.

Goodluck!

How many such cases have ben overturned on such premises?
Please, be serious.

KanwuliaExtra:
How many such cases have ben overturned on such premises?
Please, be serious.

I wouldn't know, but since you believe his misdeed was caused by DEMON POSSESSION, you can get all the information online or from attorneys that don't use the constitution of the land to argue at the court.