Uchesis:
Pele never won the champions league. Messi is the GOAT abeg

A treasure... Wetin he wan carry UCL do

blueAgent:
Rubbish, win 3 World cups with a star studded team.
When world cup was less competitive, Brazil and a few countries dominated it.
This generation a young Pele with this Brazilian squad would not get to 2 semi finals talkless of carrying 3 world cup.

Most blacks are sympathetic towards Pele been the GOAT

Did you watch pele?

Heffalump:
When I see Messi fans jubilating with all manner of fantasy, calling him GOAT with so much adulation and encomiums, as if he single handedly won the world cup for Argentina, I concluded that these people are myopic and jobless. Afterall, one shishi will not enter your pocket out of the millions in Messi's account. Some even went ahead to drag CR7, who is far richer than Messi as if they're doing Messi a great honor and favor.

When I see these people, I just laugh. The actual football GOAT is no one but the indomitable "KING PELE", not Ronaldo or Messi.

Go and rest you are the greatest bitter leaf of all time

Benitoh:
See why i hate black skin people, their mind set are demonic, wicked and primitive as the color of their blackness.

All they know how to do is to destroy, kill, envy and wickedness in their blood vessels and they're too dull and lazy...spitsssss.

Just like you

Anticrime77:


I hear u Mofo

Lolzzzs... One sef na luck... Three no be luck ooo

Sagamite:


Foolish statement by a non-analytical brain!

I don't know where it is written that Pele won any WC.

I know of places where it is written that Brazil (with its team) has won WC, but no where Pele, Maradona or Messi have won it.

Teams win Cups!

Oliseh obviously lacks an analytical brain. He is probably a doer and needs to be told what to implement. He is not supposed to be a member of the thinking department.

In his stupid mind, Cafu, Garrincha and Zagallo are the second greatest players ever "because they won 2 WCs".

Using team statistics to assess individual performance is height of stupidity.

All German players in 1990 were greater players than him because "they won WC"?

Foolishness always astonish me!

And they wonder why they struggle to get thinking jobs.

Where you dey go gangan

Sagamite:


Foolish statement by a non-analytical brain!

I don't know where it is written that Pele won any WC.

I know of places where it is written that Brazil (with its team) has won WC, but no where Pele, Maradona or Messi have won it.

Teams win Cups!

Oliseh obviously lacks an analytical brain. He is probably a doer and needs to be told what to implement. He is not supposed to be a member of the thinking department.

In his stupid mind, Cafu, Garrincha and Zagallo are the second greatest players ever "because they won 2 WCs".

Using team statistics to assess individual performance is height of stupidity.

All German players in 1990 were greater players than him because "they won WC"?

Foolishness always astonish me!

And they wonder why they struggle to get thinking jobs.

Where you dey go gangan...

Talawaka:


Pele played at a time when the ball was heavier, when two-footed tackles were still very much in vogue, and the chances of ending up in an orthopedic ward after a match was fairly high. The era of the hard man - you know, miss the ball but not the man

Hell, Pele is the G.O.A.T


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnHqVfrJZg8

Football was difficult those times... Even 90s football there are hard tackles

Messi is the GOAT .. pls leave us ...

Uchesis:

Pele was a local champion. He never played in Europe. That's not the kind of GOAT we want abeg. Maradona tried at least he played at Napoli

Do you know why pele didnt play in europe... He was a national treasure

Masterviolence:


Ronaldo's fans are the one bringing this argument up.
During pelé era, the world cup was less competitive compared to nowadays, and they were the best team at that time,with less rules.
It has been 52 years since pelé won his last world cup. And Brazil has only won it twice since the then.

And Brazil won their last world cup 2 decades ago.

Pelé is great but cannot be compared to Lionel Messi.

You've said it all

maestroferddi:
Pele wouldn't have been able to win three world cups if he were playing today...

For the fact he was not tried in Europe leaves a very important box unchecked in his resume...

If a human can perform as Messi did on Sunday and indeed all through their matches in Qatar, that human is the GOAT...

Na only for naija una dey make yeye argument, elsewhere Messi has been declared the GOAT by almost all knowledgeable sportspeople...

And you have google on your phone ?...
Their is nothing like goat ... They didnt play same time

It is unbelievable how someone that won three world cups is being compared with the one that won one. World cup is the ultimate trophy in world football and Pele won thrice. So honestly, Pele remains the greatest until a player emerges in the future or next generation to win more world cup
than him. Olisehis right

Amalekki:
In other words, someone won 3 world cup titles so the one that managed to finally win just one can't be the greatest

Slynation:
I don't know what you are saying...

But keep the Talent of Messi during Pele's era, he would be banging in 5 goals on average per match...

But keep Pele's talent in this Messi's era, he would not even make second eleven in any professional team...

You can Argue this pure facts with your keyboard...

Very true

iykofias:
Pele had some unaccounted goals because he played in so many exhibitions/tour matches around the world against amateur players that can be best described as ‘farmers’.
Yes, he won three World Cup, but that Brazilian team was filled with super talents, he sat out the large majority of the 1962 World Cup. something you can’t say about that Maradona or Messi team.

But Brazil won it 1962 with Garrincha after Pele's absence due to injury. Pele remains the greatest of all. Four world cup appearances and winning three. Scored over 1300 career and exhibition goals.

### Best player of his generation ###
Lionel Messi the only player to have won MVP in all football tournaments he has played in for both country and club at least once in the history of football as well as winning each competition at least once cheesy.
Right from U20, Copa America young best player, 2X MVP in Copa America, 2X world cup golden ball winner, best player in the club league multiple times, Best player in Uefa champions league multiple times. Make I no talk bout 7 ballon dors, 6 european golden boot, 8 league highest goalscorer + Multiple times IFHHS Playmaker of the year award.
Excellent at freekicks, king of dribbling, too good with key passes...total package. Insane number of assists n man of the match awards…damn. Just mention a retired or active player who has everything or even have close to this combined talent coupled with the discipline to keep it up for over 10 years

Masterviolence:

So do you mean those pundit and football legends that are using the word GOAT are messing the word up?

Its opinions ... The football governing body dont have the award sir...

Slawomirr:
Damnnn niggar

Wetin Sunday olisheh know

The good thing about this Messi lifting this trophy is that we now know the number of penaldians

Make I pepper them with Peter drury words once more

"The little boy from rosario Argentina santa fe!
on behalf of every little boy wearing his shirt!
messi on a million backs!
messi for a million flash bulbs!
messi crowned his Stella career

He was beautiful

He was the point of difference
He has always been the point of difference

Unparalleled
And maybe today there will of course always be those who argue
Always be those who debate and the debate can rage on if you like

But has He falls in love with the objects in the world that is heart most desired
It is hard to escape the supposition that he has rendered himself today
the GREATEST OF ALL TIME"

Peter dury exact words lol

yinkeys:

The most competitive leagues are in Europe not South America or Africa
Usain bolt is faster than ancient runners
World Records are broken every year
Ask Tobi Amusan

Many old records are still standing... Flojo records still stands ... No one comes close... No modern players has won three WC...

Shut up your hot tempered animal , that used ur arrogance to push our best goalkeeper Enyima out of the super eagle team, say Nigeria no get better keeper na this animal cause em

Fearyourcreator:

Many old records are still standing... Flojo records still stands ... No one comes close... No modern players has won three WC...

Bruh
The quality of those World Cups 50 years ago were not beyond today’s Afcon
Qatar 2022 is the hardest World Cup ever
The competition was insane
The quality and standard of football from many nations is extremely high now
It wasn’t one or two teams dominating the entire tournament like we had in 2002, 98 etc
I sure say these Argentines body go dey sore like mad
Emi Martinez was just the difference in the finals
We have 32 teams competing compared to

Fearyourcreator:

Its opinions ... The football governing body dont have the award sir...

It is best you say it's based on people's opinion than saying we're messing the word up.

It was not messed up when Ronaldo was in the debate of the GOAT, but now that Messi is mile ahead of him it automatically became a messed up word.

Comment of a kid. No further comment.

touchalex25:
how many teams were playing in the World Cup then. Did you watch any of pele’s games. Pele is an OG can’t argue with that but it’s harder to win the World Cup now than back then I think

Masterviolence:

Are you a Ronaldo fan?

Am not

SouthSouth1914:
Word!! Foolish Messi fans would rush to attack him without reasoning. Anyone who doesn’t support Messi questionable quest is an enemy.

Shame!

Cry more,Foolish penaldo fan.

The facts speak for themselves.

Any one that denies facts and reality is mentally unstable

Messi's World cup records.

Even Pele or Maradona cannot boasts of this records.

Note this records does not include his club records.


1. Most Appearances - 26

2. First Ever Two-Time Golden Ball Winner

3.Most Player Of The Match Awards - 11

4.Most Player Of The Match Awards At One World Cup

5.Most Goal Contributions - 21

6. Most Games As Captain

7. First Player To Register An Assist At Five World Cups

8. First Player To Score In Every Round

9. Most World Cups Played For Argentina

10. Most World Cup Goals For Argentina

TMSMedia:
IGBERETV report

'He Won 3 World Cups': Brazil's Pele Remains The Greatest Player Ever – Sunday Oliseh



https://www.instagram.com/p/CmYusF_NOOm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Oliseh called himself elderly sha
This dude should shut the gas up
He should go back to coaching school

HBB1:


Did you watch Pele play?

Videos

Harrytimbog:
### Best player of his generation ###
Lionel Messi the only player to have won MVP in all football tournaments he has played in for both country and club at least once in the history of football as well as winning each competition at least once cheesy.
Right from U20, Copa America young best player, 2X MVP in Copa America, 2X world cup golden ball winner, best player in the club league multiple times, Best player in Uefa champions league multiple times. Make I no talk bout 7 ballon dors, 6 european golden boot, 8 league highest goalscorer + Multiple times IFHHS Playmaker of the year award.
Excellent at freekicks, king of dribbling, too good with key passes...total package. Insane number of assists n man of the match awards…damn. Just mention a player living or alive who has everything or even have close to this combined talent coupled with the discipline to keep it up for over 10 years

So true.

Idiots dey call mbappe were King Leo dey.

Even Pele did nor achieve all this records you listed above, Coupled with the fact that World cup then was easier .

Niwdog:
Absolutely balderdash

if this oliseh were to be from Colombia, he would been in the yonder by now, for his error in gifting massaro that pass to ultimately got to baggio that led to that equalizer, that sent Nigeria out of the world cup.
As a coach, he fled. He is only good at making noise on supersport.
You never witnessed Pele Play, but you are witnessing messi creating magic, yet you are complementing Pele, the same Pele that has already acknowledged messi.
The problem with southern Nigerians is that they can never hide their envy and jealousy.

Uchesis:

Pele was a local champion. He never played in Europe. That's not the kind of GOAT we want abeg. Maradona tried at least he played at Napoli

Do you know what happened when Pele and his Santos team, the then champions of South America, met the then champions of your Europe? Here is what happened in 1962:

The 1962 Intercontinental Cup was a football tie held over two legs between Brazilian club Santos, winners of the 1962 Copa Libertadores, and Portuguese club Benfica, winners of the 1961–62 European Cup. Santos won the Intercontinental Cup for the first time.

The tie is remembered as pitching Brazilian player Pelé against Portuguese player Eusébio, two of the leading players of the 1960s, who played against each other on only three occasions.

It is considered that the second leg, Santos' 5–2 win in Lisbon, in which Pelé scored a hat-trick, was the greatest performance ever seen in the competition.

The next year Santos retained the title by beating AC Milan of Italy with Pele scoring 2 goals in the first leg.

Jaytecq:



Its simple: Messi has won EVERYTHING in football

WINNING is not everything.... making a revolution to the sport is more important. What has Messi done to take the sport to another level?

ebor:
It is unbelievable how someone that won three world cups is being compared with the one that won one. World cup is the ultimate trophy in world football and Pele won thrice. So honestly, Pele remains the greatest until a player emerges in the future or next generation to win more world cup
than him. Olisehis right

See your reasoning with rented brain.

Pele did not win 3world cups all alone infact they are aleast 11GOATS, all Pele teammates are Goat.

GOAT is given based on individual ability , and Messi is far ahead of Pele.