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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 2:20am On Jan 02, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Firstly, I am not accusing you personally, I don't know you, plus I myself don't have anything to do with people who commit crimes such as these! I prefer to stay away from them. I will pray for them, and if I had the chance, I would tell them to stop doing it. And I have already explained to you, the Watchtower is not the only group who have committed these crimes. You just need to open up your mind and listen to the News, if none of it was true, then the Watchtower wouldn't be wrongfully accused, usually news like this 'comes from within "obviously the authorities found the evidence within the Watchtower, and yes" it's all over the net, news travels fast these days. MaxInDHouse:You must have a blind eye, or maybe you have chosen to close your eye's on the people who are actually involved in this type of behavior? I already gather you are from Nigeria-parts of Nigeria is known across the globe-how poor this country is. Africa reminds me of Asian countries, poverty always attracts crimes against humanity, it doesn't matter whether it is in Church or on the street. Where there's poverty, it attracts the rich who supports crimes such as these. even in my country. So now you admit you read this stuff on the net: if you aren't convinced, then search more, and find out where this news is coming from, most of the stories I have read: are written by Jehovah witnesses! where else does stories like these come from, So obviously these members are now classed as X Jehovah witnesses no longer exist within. MaxInDHouse:If the Watchtower were walking with God, then why are they accused of such Crimes by there own members? Not everyone is involved: but those that are, are hidden by the top. I have already written this down: about this sort of behavior does not just stop at the Watchtower-Churches or over the world have also turned their backs on God: committing crimes such as these.. MaxInDHouse:Like I said: no one is accusing you personally: I am not searching for prefect people-I have already found Jesus in my heart, and if I am looking for answers, all I have to do is search the scriptures. My personal point is this>I won't stand up with any Church who are involved in this sort of behavior, I would not call it my Church-and I will not defend it, now no-one is prefect, but I believe if we are truly walking with God, then we would believe in the Word of God. And if people were really obeying God: then no-one inside or outside the Church will be hearing these crimes against God's people.. {Joshua 1:8} This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success. I don't need a Church structure to tell me how I should worship God, when in fact I already have His manual to learn the Scriptures. MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:27am On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 9:03am On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:This is all i need in your lengthy story, there is no church of perfect worshipers any gathering is filled with imperfect people and since we must worship God as a church (congregation) which of the churches (congregations) is following the footsteps of the first century Christian Congregation? There must be rules and the punishment must be within tenets of Christianity since the report was made within the congregation of God and not to unbelievers. The punishment for wrongdoings in the first century congregation is REPROOF or DISFELLOWSHIP after a person has been reproved he can still be welcomed by the congregation because he showed a repentant attitude that's why his case didn't lead to disfellowship which means he is unrepentant. Jesus never told us to report our brothers to the worldly authorities due to wrongdoings rather what he told us is to take steps which may lead to reviving our brother spiritually {Matthew 18:15} but after all effort to regain him proves abortive then we must shun him {Matthew 18:16-17} that's the time he could be reported to the authorities because he's no longer willing to surrender himself under the same rule so those who deals with miscreants can now take over his case. That's what Christianity truly means not just following worldly thinking yet claiming you're a Christian. So from your comments it's obvious that there is different religions with different doctrines so you can't demonize a group due to their doctrines since nobody has been to heaven and come back to confirm which doctrine is acceptable to God. This should help you to see that there's no reason condemning people simply because they belong to a religion rather the best thing to do is present a better performing group for everyone to see why they need to leave groups not performing up to expectations as Christian groups. That's what we are doing not condemning people! |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 7:47am On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 12:42pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:The PEDDLING of Tantrums and wailings by this very WEREY ATHEISTS peddling peddler whose NO GET SENSE PEDDLING accompanied with SHAMELESSNESS that has no boundaries just confirmed that child sexual abuse is a live and present danger in his religious organization and it is not a new thing within their midst ![]() You can pass this your tantrums, WEREY and atheist peddling to your brothers in Jehovah here on nairaland who said it is only on the Internet that they hear such happenings Awon better performing performance group too are better in child sexual abuse and even confident to tell us no be new thing many problems for the WEREY, ATHEIST, tantrums peddling peddler on nairaland. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 7:51am On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:We know sey no be WEREY peddling peddler, No be ATHEISTS peddling peddler, No be NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER, No be empty tantrums peddling peddler, ![]() No be WAILINGS peddling peddler, Go carry us to that God's kingdom. Who seek your help regarding THAT? |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 1:45pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
achorladey: 1 Corinthians 5:1 "A man sleeping with his step mother" is a carry over of child sexual abuse , a practice of sexual immorality confirmed in other Nairaland threads, for example in the link: https://www.nairaland.com/5108650/man-sexually-molested-househelp-age#77138848 Achorladey NO GET SENSE PEDDLING accompanied with SHAMELESSNESS that has no boundaries. Nah 1 Corinthians 5:1 dey cause Achorladey sifia pains & tantrums. . D ![]() achorladey:My brothers have the right to post what they want,in as much as they have not missed the lessons of 1 Corinthians 5:1,9-13. Awon Werey Atheist, exercise your right to continue WAILING in sifia pains. . achorladey:Did 1 Corinthians 5:1,9-13 happen in your Bible? Sexual immorality is not new under the sun. but JWs NEVER applauded it. Awon werey WAILER,nah you post this screenshot for this forum. ![]() ![]()
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:55pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Now I have another lengthy letter from you>You are right, there is No one, who truly follow God: {Romans 3:10-12} As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”. So what makes you believe the Jehovah witnesses are the true believers, when in fact, you know you are not perfect.. MaxInDHouse:I don't see this as a punishment within your congregation when it allows these fools to mix with Children' even after they had committed a crime against Children, their repentance shouldn't allow them to associate with any child after their crime. And because they had repented to God: they still have to obey the Law of the Land: and allow the Court Judge convict them from their crimes. if the Watchtower were sincere, they wouldn't have hidden these matters away from the authorities, it should have been reported to police. MaxInDHouse:{Romans 13:1-2} Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow. {Titus 3:1} Titus also tells us to be obedient and submissive to rulers and authorities. {Matthew 18;15} doesn't cover your argument: So if your fellow brother keeps on molesting your son-daughter, and he repeats raping your son-daughter daily, and comes to you with repentance daily, you will forgive Him daily and keep on allowing your brother to play with your children, you wouldn't report him to the authorities, because he repented. "so your brother is free. MaxInDHouse:If you refuse to believe the Word of God is written by God's Word: then it's understandable why you are with the Watchtower 'because of your unbelief.. MaxInDHouse:{Matthew 7:5} How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? Then you must ask yourself-why do you condemn: MaxInDHouse: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 2:29pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky: 1 Corinthians 5:1 "A man sleeping with his step mother" is a carry over of child sexual abuse , a practice of sexual immorality confirmedNo get sense peddling peddler and one whose SHAMELESSNESS is SEALED case, I did not ask what is a carry over of child abuse or prerequisite for child abuse. The above is the result of your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING . Achorladey NO GET SENSE PEDDLING accompanied with SHAMELESSNESS that has no boundaries.Nah 1 Corinthians 5:1 dey cause Achorladey sifia pains & tantrums.You are tired of being the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland. You are looking for RECRUIT. That cannot be said about you. The reason you keep going from thread to thread peddling NO GET SENSE, WAILINGS, MUMU, WEREY, ATHEIST with SHAMELESSNESS that has no bounds. My brothers have the right to post what they want,in as much as they have not missed the lessons of 1 Corinthians 5:1,9-13Many problems that accompany the WEREY peddling peddler, atheist peddling peddler, Mumu and no get sense peddling peddler with SHAMELESSNESS. Who stopped your brothers from posting WHAT they want. Na result your WAILINGS and TANTRUMS peddling you see soooo ![]() Awon Werey Atheist, exercise your right to continue WAILING in sifia pains.Awon WEREY peddling peddler, ATHEIST peddling peddler, MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER of Nairaland. You are free to exercise your right to keep peddling WAILINGS and enjoy the PAINS such peddling comes with. ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 3:44pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:Don't bother reading his many words. His words are actually what he uses to reassure himself that he is in the right religion. It is just delusion. Look at a typical example of Watchtower covering up a JW Elder raping children. This case is even worse because not only is he given free access to rape children for decades, he also videos the act along with other JWs and engages in the Occult. A victim has also accused him of being part of the Occult Because he engages in Satanic Rituals along with some other JWs in a house where they rape and torture children. Child Sexual Abuse is tied to Satanism which is why I keep repeating it in this forum that JW is a Satanic Cult, a Freemason Cult! This is what we call Child P@rnography laced with Child Sex Trafficking and Satanism. No wonder Watchtower says Child P@rnography is NOT Child Abuse in the Elders Manual. I am glad that a News station in the US is reporting this Satanic act. If you want to read the whole story, click on the link below: https://www.fox21news.com/news/crime/affidavit-religious-elder-abused-raped-children-for-decades/
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 3:47pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab, this is the report about the Occult tied to this Child Sexual Abuse case. The JW Pedophiles you see in the News arrested by the Authorities are the Freemason JWs I talked about in the Are Jehovah's witnesses tied to Freemasons thread.
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 4:26pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Courz:Nah Achorladey your Atheist crew member posted this screenshot evidence on this forum. Courz IBERIBEIST continue your PROVEN delusion. .
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 4:30pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Courz:US Court Judge have NOT given any judgement on this case,NL IBERIBEIST done set up kangaroo judgement inside him head. Insanity does not have another meaning. ![]()
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 4:32pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:That screenshot that your NO GET SENSE and MUMU PEDDLING on nairaland first called LIES and MALIGNING your religious organization only to come back with your NO GET SENSE and MUMU PEDDLING to say they are indeed TRUTH and now they are EVIDENCE about the ways of some of the members and prominent members among your religious organization ![]() No doubt, THE WEREY PEDDLER, ATHEIST PEDDLER, NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER filled with WAILINGS, PAINS and TANTRUMS PEDDLING at his best always accompanied with his usual SHAMELESSNESS ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 4:39pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:Many problems of the IBERIBEIST peddling peddler wants to add INSANITIES like his brother in Jehovah to colour the matter by adding....... ![]() US Court Judge have NOT given any judgement on this case. Why are you agitating about him setting up kangaroo courts? Are your members are not at liberty again to commit such acts now? Since you have been trying to prove to us that the first century Christians doing such is VALIDITY for your members to carry out such acts. Many problems for WEREY and ATHEISTS peddling peddler ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 4:41pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
achorladey:[b]1 Corinthians 5:1 in his Atheist brain is "NO GET SENSE and SHAMELESSNESS all over nairaland." His fellow Atheists & 3 deities believers are serving jail terms for child molestation, yet he's on this forum WAILING over JWs. Awon werey Atheist typing GIBBERISH. Deluded attention seeker. ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 4:44pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:No get sense peddling peddler and one whose SHAMELESSNESS is SEALED case and now coupled with DELUSIONS peddling, I did not ask what is a carry over of child abuse or prerequisite for child abuse. The above is the result of your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING grin grin grin. You are tired of being the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland. You are looking for RECRUIT. :oshocked shocked. You will look for it tire. I don’t go about peddling NO GET SENSE and SHAMELESSNESS all over nairaland simply because someone do not dance to the tune of what I am saying.That cannot be said about you. The reason you keep going from thread to thread peddling NO GET SENSE, WAILINGS, MUMU, WEREY, ATHEIST with SHAMELESSNESS that has no bounds. Many problems that accompany the WEREY peddling peddler, atheist peddling peddler, Mumu and no get sense peddling peddler with SHAMELESSNESS. Who stopped your brothers from posting WHAT they want? Na result your WAILINGS and TANTRUMS peddling you see soooo Awon WEREY peddling peddler, ATHEIST peddling peddler, MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER of Nairaland. You are free to exercise your right to keep peddling WAILINGS and enjoy the PAINS such peddling comes with If not for your DELUSIONS and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING, how will a person that indeed have SENSE be peddling Bible verses for someone he called ATHEIST at the same. Confirmation of your WEREY PEDDLING, ATHEIST PEDDLING MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING on nairaland. Jehovah go airpyou and strengthen your WAILING and Pains peddling about it all. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 4:55pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
achorladey:Achorladey awon werey Atheist goes to extremes to push wereyism to extraordinary. Sane people don't set up kangaroo Court nor practice subjudice. ![]() achorladey:Achorladey,How does 1 Corinthians 5:1,9-13 mean Validity to commit what God has condemned? Carry your werey GIBBERISH outta here. Achorladey awon werey atheist upgraded IBERIBEISM to extraordinary. . |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:01pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:Weed smoker Janosky, why did Watchtower coverup a JW Elder for many decades who sexually abused children, filmed the act and engages in Satanic Rituals along with some other JWs according to this report below?
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by achorladey: 5:01pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:How can I be answering questions from MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER ON nairaland? ![]() Many problems of the IBERIBEIST peddling peddler wants to add INSANITIES like his brother in Jehovah. Na your work do it well ![]() Why are you agitating about him setting up kangaroo courts? Are your members are not at liberty again to commit such acts now? Since you have been trying to prove to us that the first century Christians doing such is VALIDITY for your members to carry out such acts. Many problems for WEREY and ATHEISTS peddling peddler Carry your werey GIBBERISH outta here.Many problems of MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland. Your MUMU and NO GET SENSE PEDDLING made you forget that you didn't bring me here in the first place and one your not the owner of this platform . Na WAILINGS and PAINS peddling cause this one ![]() Achorladey awon werey atheist upgraded IBERIBEISM to extraordinary.You are liberty to keep peddling your UPGRADED WEREY, UPGRADED ATHEISTS and extraordinary IBERIBEISM accompanied by SHAMELESSNESS and more DELUSIONS peddling. Na your work do am well. |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:07pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Weed smoker Janosky, why is Child P@rnography, Child sex trafficking and Occultic activities happening in your one true religion? Remember, Watchtower said there is no big deal in Child P@rnography and said it is NOT child abuse. This is the reason why Watchtower allowed this JW Elder to commit his heinous crimes. Is the Rape of Children responsible for the Billionaire status of Watchtower? |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:07pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Courz:Courz continue to practice sub judice & confirm your IBERIBEISM. ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:16pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:Weed smoker Janosky, why did Watchtower coverup a JW Elder for many decades who sexually abused children, filmed the act and engages in Satanic Rituals along with some other JWs according to this report below?
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:16pm On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 5:32pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
So if anybody is involved in child molesting, and he/she repents to Jehovah, then kingdom hall would use {Matthew 18:15} as an excuse to help cover up his/her crime. So as far as you Janosky are concerned, since this happens all the time, the Watchtower have taken the matters into their own kangaroo court. Just so they can be set free. ''Is that what happened to you-were you set free.. Janosky: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:20pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Janosky:Weed smoker Janosky, Why is Watchtower covering up Pedophiles, chooses to do nothing about this particular Pedophile who is a Freemason, threatens victims to keep their mouth shut or else they will be disfellowshipped, removed an Elder who decided to investigate the case, orders Elders not to cooperate with the authorities and even condones Satanic Rituals while children are being sexually abused by numerous JWs at a time? What kind of religion does this? A religion from God or Satan? Answer Weed smoker Janosky.
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:22pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:Janosky must be a Rapist. I heard rape also goes on amongst JWs in Nigeria here. Janosky, were you let go like this when you raped a child?
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:25pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:Oga, nah your friend posted this screenshot. The other option is to carry your GIBBERISH outta here.
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:31pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Well it is a question to ask, since they are over protective based upon this issue. Courz: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:34pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
In the Are Jehovah's Witnesses tied to Freemasons thread, I mentioned testimonies from Freemason JWs that included the rape of children. In one testimony, it was mentioned that Freemason Elders are fixed in specific congregations and the GB orders them to rape Children whenever the demons they communicate with demand for it to make rituals work. Lo and behold, we are seeing too many cases being publicised of Child Sexual Abuse cases in JW. What is pathetic about this case is that this JW Elder was free to carry out this abominable act for many decades without repercussions. He even boasted of being untouchable. And here we have a victim accusing him of being Occultic and exposed their Satanic meetings they hold. The victim also mentioned two other JWs in the same congregation doing the same thing. All of these make all the testimonies from Freemason JWs to be true. To make matters worse, the Sexual Abuse are recorded to produce Child P@rnography. I ask, what kind of religion does this? A religion from God or Satan?
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| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:54pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
What is your job in the kingdom? It must be important to you... You are over protective, concerning certain members in Kingdom hall. Your Kingdom must be proud Janosky: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 5:55pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:What is very suspicious of JW is that when a JW commits fornication, Adultery or any other wrong doing, the Elders are very quick to act and disfellowship. But Child P@rnography is not a serious sin to Watchtower and Pedophilia is condoned with Pedophiles protected. What does this show? It shows that Watchtower is part of this whole disgusting act and are in support of it. Do you know that their Leaders, some of their Governing body members who are late now, were Pedophiles as well? Is this a religion for God or for Satan? |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:59pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
Well we already know the answer to that, I wouldn't call any Church that's involved in this sort of behavior my Church.. Courz: |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:22pm On Jan 02, 2023 |
brocab:This is the question right thinking people often ask and it's a very good question! Jesus said no one is good except God and he made this statement when called "GOOD" {Luke 18:19} meaning even himself is not qualified to be called "GOOD" except Jehovah. Now this is where the critical thinking skills will help you. Jesus was approved by God {Matthew 17:5} and Jesus declared that even himself is not good except his father and God. This means there is a standard set by the one who is Good (God) and anyone exerting himself to live by that standard will gain God's approval. But since each person will claim he is living up to God's standard Jesus started gathering individuals who are willing to subject themselves to God's standard, he sent out imperfect humans as his representatives (disciples) surely anyone expecting perfection from imperfect humans can never accept Jesus' group as unique and approved by God? So what makes Jesus' group stands out though they are imperfect humans? Well it's because they humbly followed Jesus in the first century while their contemporaries kept finding faults with Jesus the one God approved as Christ! Matthew 3:16-17 Today most people wants to be called Jesus' friends but Jesus has foreseen this that's why he foretold what honest hearted and sincere individuals to observe perhaps Satan creates lots of groups all in Jesus' name. God's Holy Spirit will continue to work with those who are truly willing to subject themselves to Jesus' counsel so even though their group is filled with imperfect humans we will notice the fruit of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} what are the attributes of this spirit? LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} in any gathering of imperfect humans where this is noticed know that God has approved their worship. This is how we know that only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is approved by God despite the fact that the group is made up of imperfect humans like all other religious groups! ![]() |
| Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:45pm On Jan 02, 2023*. Modified: 12:26am On Jan 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Jehovah's Witnesses believe that: God the Father (whose name is Jehovah) is "the only true God". Jesus Christ is his firstborn son, is inferior to God, and was created by God. The Holy Spirit is not a person; it is God's active force So how does the Holy Spirit work with you, when in fact you claim the Holy Spirit is a active force; it would be like having a electric shock, every time you want to call upon God for answers. You need to test every word you are taught by your elders, do not to be afraid of the scriptures>do you know the work of the Holy Spirit is to exalt Christ in our hearts. He forms the image of Christ in us. We owe all to God in salvation. The Father gave us the Son, the Son gave his life for us, and the Spirit gives us life and faith in Christ. MaxInDHouse: |
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