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MaxInDHouse:
Today most people wants to be called Jesus' friends but Jesus has foreseen this that's why he foretold what honest hearted and sincere individuals to observe perhaps Satan creates lots of groups all in Jesus' name.
This is how we know that only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is approved by God despite the fact that the group is made up of imperfect humans like all other religious groups!

MaxInDHouse:
This is the question right thinking people often ask and it's a very good question!

Jesus said no one is good except God and he made this statement when called "GOOD" {Luke 18:19} meaning even himself is not qualified to be called "GOOD" except Jehovah.

Now this is where the critical thinking skills will help you. Jesus was approved by God {Matthew 17:5} and Jesus declared that even himself is not good except his father and God.
This means there is a standard set by the one who is Good (God) and anyone exerting himself to live by that standard will gain God's approval.
But since each person will claim he is living up to God's standard Jesus started gathering individuals who are willing to subject themselves to God's standard, he sent out imperfect humans as his representatives (disciples) surely anyone expecting perfection from imperfect humans can never accept Jesus' group as unique and approved by God?
So what makes Jesus' group stands out though they are imperfect humans?
Well it's because they humbly followed Jesus in the first century while their contemporaries kept finding faults with Jesus the one God approved as Christ! Matthew 3:16-17
Today most people wants to be called Jesus' friends but Jesus has foreseen this that's why he foretold what honest hearted and sincere individuals to observe perhaps Satan creates lots of groups all in Jesus' name.
God's Holy Spirit will continue to work with those who are truly willing to subject themselves to Jesus' counsel so even though their group is filled with imperfect humans we will notice the fruit of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} what are the attributes of this spirit?
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} in any gathering of imperfect humans where this is noticed know that God has approved their worship.

This is how we know that only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is approved by God despite the fact that the group is made up of imperfect humans like all other religious groups!

MaxInDHouse:
Today most people wants to be called Jesus' friends but Jesus has foreseen this that's why he foretold what honest hearted and sincere individuals to observe perhaps Satan creates lots of groups all in Jesus' name. This is how we know that only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is approved by God despite the fact that the group is made up of imperfect humans like all other religious groups!

MaxInDHouse:
This is the question right thinking people often ask and it's a very good question!

Jesus said no one is good except God and he made this statement when called "GOOD" {Luke 18:19} meaning even himself is not qualified to be called "GOOD" except Jehovah.

Now this is where the critical thinking skills will help you. Jesus was approved by God {Matthew 17:5} and Jesus declared that even himself is not good except his father and God.
This means there is a standard set by the one who is Good (God) and anyone exerting himself to live by that standard will gain God's approval.
But since each person will claim he is living up to God's standard Jesus started gathering individuals who are willing to subject themselves to God's standard, he sent out imperfect humans as his representatives (disciples) surely anyone expecting perfection from imperfect humans can never accept Jesus' group as unique and approved by God?
So what makes Jesus' group stands out though they are imperfect humans?
Well it's because they humbly followed Jesus in the first century while their contemporaries kept finding faults with Jesus the one God approved as Christ! Matthew 3:16-17
Today most people wants to be called Jesus' friends but Jesus has foreseen this that's why he foretold what honest hearted and sincere individuals to observe perhaps Satan creates lots of groups all in Jesus' name.
God's Holy Spirit will continue to work with those who are truly willing to subject themselves to Jesus' counsel so even though their group is filled with imperfect humans we will notice the fruit of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} what are the attributes of this spirit?
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} in any gathering of imperfect humans where this is noticed know that God has approved their worship.

This is how we know that only Jehovah's Witnesses organization is approved by God despite the fact that the group is made up of imperfect humans like all other religious groups!

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 5:1 in his Atheist brain is "NO GET SENSE and SHAMELESSNESS all over nairaland."
His fellow Atheists & 3 deities believers are serving jail terms for child molestation, yet he's on this forum WAILING over JWs.
Awon werey Atheist typing GIBBERISH.
Deluded attention seeker

MaxInDHouse:
Restlessness made brocab responded three times to just one post!

Well these are the main points:

[1] Only God is good that's what Jesus said!
[2] Only God sets standards for being good!
[3] Mankind is imperfect in general!
[4] Not all worship is approved by God!
[5] Yet God called a gathering "Holy"
[6] The gathering of God's people is filled with imperfect humans.


So all you need to find out now is what is the criteria of the gathering of Holy ones not how to argue over doctrines that you can't present any gathering that's doing what you are saying.

The sin those criticizing Jesus and his group in the first century committed is condemning the standard God set to bind imperfect humans together and make them do His will. Matthew 12:31-32
The preaching and teaching campaign of God's Kingdom started when Jesus began gathering imperfect humans and handed over the work to them. The fruit of God's Holy Spirit is what will help imperfect humans in carrying out this job and this are the attributes of God's Holy Spirit:

On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS, SELF-CONTROL. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

So you have nothing to say against any group of people carrying out this work because that is the IDENTIFYING MARK of pure worship and the gathering of the Holy ones not perfect humans!

brocab:
Explain to me How "Holy" does this sound: when in fact you would rather trust in man' before you would trust in Christ to bring you into salvation:
As I have already written>the Watchtower began over 200 years ago by Charles Russell-one who was a 33 degree Freemason.
Charles Russell is your savor, once you have joined the Watchtower you put all your trust in this man' he led you into Watchtower salvation..
You don't know Christ: if you had fellowship with Christ: you wouldn't deny His Word: instead you use the Word of God as a mockery as your tool to persuade lost souls.
Your Love for the Lost souls is out of context:

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky:

you love to continually lie and blaspheme, calling the Christians Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3 deities" whch means 3 gods,
you have also called them: "the 3 dogheads", and you have called the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible: "the ole demon ghost":

Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Please state the Bible verses where your own Jesus worshipping 3 persons deities.

Or get lost!

MaxInDHouse:
You should be more concerned about the group that's carrying out the assignment Jesus commissioned for now not arguing about the wrong group, find out the group that's doing Jesus' work since you're sure that it's not all the groups that's following Jesus' teachings!

MaxInDHouse:
He commanded his disciples to go preaching and teaching throughout the earth as a group {Matthew 10:11-13} and assured that this group will become known globally {Matthew 5:13-16} due to the assignment he gave them! Act 1:8
Now you're saying the one and only group that is actively carrying out this assignment doesn't know Jesus because a man (Russell) and some men were used to restructure Jesus' group for the endtime work.

MaxInDHouse:
If you say you believe in Jesus i will also say i believe in Jesus because Jesus's name is found written in the Bible and the book says "Jesus is God's Son"
That's why different sects are claiming they know the first century young Jewish carpenter but then what is the evidence that you truly know Jesus?
He commanded his disciples to go preaching and teaching throughout the earth as a group {Matthew 10:11-13} and assured that this group will become known globally {Matthew 5:13-16} due to the assignment he gave them! Act 1:8
Now you're saying the one and only group that is actively carrying out this assignment doesn't know Jesus because a man (Russell) and some men were used to restructure Jesus' group for the endtime work.
For your information Russell is just like any other servant of my God that lived and carried out the work assignment to them they don't know what i know today because Jesus is the founder of his group!
During his lifetime Russell didn't know that the celebration of Christmas is wrong. So how is he the founder of the group if he never knew so many things members of the group preach and teach today?
Do you remember John the baptist?
Well he himself was the prophet who was to come in the manner of Elijah {Malachi 4:5} only Jesus knew this {Matthew 11:14} but did John himself know this? NO! All he could decipher is that the voice he heard said he should go into the wilderness and start preparing the way for Jehovah! John 1:20-23
After seeing God's Holy Spirit landing on Jesus' head and hearing God's own voice confirming Jesus as the Christ {John 1:29-34} Yet when Jesus didn't act on John's anticipation he sent his disciples to ask if Jesus is the Christ or not {Matthew 11:2-3} but did Jesus condemn John for questioning his authenticity?
NO! Jesus used that opportunity to tell the Jews who already held John the baptist as true prophet of their God {Luke 20:6} that John was the Elijah they were expecting! Matthew 11:14

So if you feel that Russell is not a messenger of your own God it's OK but i am 100% sure that he has done a great work for my Lord Jesus Christ by preparing a multitude of disciples globally even though he never knew how it will turn out during his own time!

You should be more concerned about the group that's carrying out the assignment Jesus commissioned for now not arguing about the wrong group, find out the group that's doing Jesus' work since you're sure that it's not all the groups that's following Jesus' teachings!

May you have PEACE!

brocab:
There's only One group of Christian's God Himself have ordained, One must be Born Again before He can enter into the Kingdom of God.

Prosper1912:
Which one be born again?

Jesus said: “Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) So being born again prepares a person to rule with Christ in God’s Kingdom. This Kingdom rules from heaven, so the Bible describes the “new birth” as providing an inheritance that is “reserved in the heavens.” (1 Peter 1:​3, 4) Those who are born again are given the conviction that they will “rule together as kings” with Christ.​—2 Timothy 2:​12; 2 Corinthians 1:​21, 22.

When Jesus discussed the subject, he said that those born again would be “born from water and spirit.” (John 3:5) This expression refers to baptism in water followed by baptism with holy spirit.​—Acts 1:5; 2:​1-4.

Jesus was the first person to be born again. He was baptized in the Jordan River, after which God anointed (or, baptized) him with holy spirit. Jesus was thus born again by holy spirit as a son of God with the hope of returning to life in heaven. (Mark 1:​9-​11) God fulfilled this hope by resurrecting Jesus as a spirit creature.​—Acts 13:33.

Others who are born again are also baptized in water before they receive the holy spirit. a (Acts 2:​38, 41) They then have the sure hope of life in heaven, which God will fulfill in the resurrection.​—1 Corinthians 15:42-​49.

So the question now is that
A PERSON Must Be Born Again To Gain SALVATION OR TO BE A CHRISTIAN?

Christ’s sacrifice provides salvation not only for those who are born again as the ones who will rule with Christ in heaven but also for the earthly subjects of God’s Kingdom. (1 John 2:​1, 2; Revelation 5:​9, 10) That second group of Christians have the opportunity to live forever in Paradise on earth.​—Psalm 37:29; Matthew 6:​9, 10; Revelation 21:​1-5.

So the question now is that

CAN A PERSON CAN CHOOSE TO BE BORN AGAIN?

The opportunity to have a relationship with God and gain salvation is open to all. (1 Timothy 2:​3, 4; James 4: However, God chooses those who will be born again, or anointed with holy spirit. According to the Bible, being born again “depends, not on a person’s desire or on his effort, but on God.” (Romans 9:​16) The expression “born again” can also be rendered “born from above,” confirming that the selection of those who are born again comes “from above,” or from God.​—John 3:3, footnote.

a One exception was the case of Cornelius and those with him.​—Acts 10:44-48.

MaxInDHouse:
From the viewpoint of Churchgoers only born again can have everlasting life!

Prosper1912:
Which one be born again?
Jesus said: “Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) So being born again prepares a person to rule with Christ in God’s Kingdom. This Kingdom rules from heaven, so the Bible describes the “new birth” as providing an inheritance that is “reserved in the heavens.” (1 Peter 1:​3, 4) Those who are born again are given the conviction that they will “rule together as kings” with Christ.​—2 Timothy 2:​12; 2 Corinthians 1:​21, 22.
When Jesus discussed the subject, he said that those born again would be “born from water and spirit.” (John 3:5) This expression refers to baptism in water followed by baptism with holy spirit.​—Acts 1:5; 2:​1-4.
Jesus was the first person to be born again. He was baptized in the Jordan River, after which God anointed (or, baptized) him with holy spirit. Jesus was thus born again by holy spirit as a son of God with the hope of returning to life in heaven. (Mark 1:​9-​11) God fulfilled this hope by resurrecting Jesus as a spirit creature.​—Acts 13:33.
Others who are born again are also baptized in water before they receive the holy spirit. a (Acts 2:​38, 41) They then have the sure hope of life in heaven, which God will fulfill in the resurrection.​—1 Corinthians 15:42-​49.
So the question now is that
A PERSON Must Be Born Again To Gain SALVATION OR TO BE A CHRISTIAN?
Christ’s sacrifice provides salvation not only for those who are born again as the ones who will rule with Christ in heaven but also for the earthly subjects of God’s Kingdom. (1 John 2:​1, 2; Revelation 5:​9, 10) That second group of Christians have the opportunity to live forever in Paradise on earth.​—Psalm 37:29; Matthew 6:​9, 10; Revelation 21:​1-5.
So the question now is that
CAN A PERSON CAN CHOOSE TO BE BORN AGAIN?
The opportunity to have a relationship with God and gain salvation is open to all. (1 Timothy 2:​3, 4; James 4: However, God chooses those who will be born again, or anointed with holy spirit. According to the Bible, being born again “depends, not on a person’s desire or on his effort, but on God.” (Romans 9:​16) The expression “born again” can also be rendered “born from above,” confirming that the selection of those who are born again comes “from above,” or from God.​—John 3:3, footnote.
a One exception was the case of Cornelius and those with him.​—Acts 10:44-48.

MaxInDHouse:
Who is not BORN AGAIN out of all these people contradicting themselves on this forum?

brocab:
Jesus made a point of it 'when he was talking with the Pharisee-Jesus told Nicodemus, one must be born again before he can enter into God's kingdom. These are the true Christians, Jesus had separated them, from the rest of the world..
{john 3:1-3} Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Jehovah witnesses, are born into there organisation: without your organisation Jehovah witnesses believe they are disqualified from becoming a Christian. Jehovah witnesses rely upon the Watchtower to see them though.
That's the different's you are born into your organisation, without it, you are classed as a outcast.
[color=#000000]And how do I know a true Christian: by their words, I recognize God's language they speak. We are One in Christ.[/color]
Many have come in Jesus's Name, but they come speaking another language, this language is not from God.
{James 2:19} You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
There's only one door into Heaven-through Jesus Christ, you can call on Jehovah as much as you like, but he can't save you, all authority was given to Jesus.
Jehovah witnesses believe Watchtowers chosen few of a 144000 will be fit to be with Jehovah in heaven-while the rest stay behind waiting for Jehovah to give them the new earth, so while you JW's wait upon the Watchtowers promise.
Let the Word of God prove to you your theory is wrong-let's look further into the Word. where does God's people souls go after they die?
.{ Luke 23:36-43} Two men who were guilty of their crimes hung next to Him that fateful day. Both men spoke to Jesus, but only one would die to be greeted into the promise of Heaven. Jesus speaks these truthful words: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
Now we know the criminal's spirit isn't waiting around in the grave waiting for Christ to come back, the criminal's spirit is already with the Lord. As promised..
{John 14:6} Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Many have come in Jesus Name claiming to be Christian, And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
Jehovah witnesses believe Michael the archangel is Jesus, they also believe Satan and Jesus are brothers. So obviously Charles Russell seen a light, but with Charles description of Jehovah is not what it seems.

MaxInDHouse:
Just name one or two of your fellow believers on this forum who aren't BORN AGAIN that's all!

Janosky:
Please state the Bible verses where your own Jesus worshipping 3 persons deities.
Or get lost!

MaxInDHouse:
Just name one or two of your fellow believers on this forum who aren't BORN AGAIN that's all!

brocab:
Janosky and of course you Max are not fellow believers and you are not born again!

Janosky:
Please state the Bible verses where your own Jesus worshipping 3 persons deities.

Or get lost!

brocab:
What Bible verses support the Trinity?
The word “Trinity” never appears in the Bible, but God reveals himself throughout Scripture as one being {Deut 6:4, John 10:30} in three persons {Gen 1:2; Matt 3:16–17, 1 Pet 1:2}
The Trinity exists in 3 persons
{Isaiah 48:16}
{Matthew 3:16–17}
{Matthew 28:19}
Now open your eye's Janosky and wake up to yourself-the scriptures don't lie against the truth..

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah for you o!

Now i believe you're not from Nigeria because you often miss simple and straightforward questions.

I asked for two of your fellow believers not JWs nah?

In fact none of the JWs on this forum is BORN AGAIN so mention just two of your own brethren who aren't BORN AGAIN!

Janosky:


God is a Spirit. A spirit is one being.
Jesus Christ is another spirit, therefore a distinct being, different from his Father.
1 Corinthians 11:3, a man & wife are not 1 being, neither Jesus & his Father.
Brocab you are a polytheist worshipping your 3 beings.
Oga, stop deceiving yourself

brocab:
It was a stupid question, so I refuse to answer something so childish.
It's easy for me to recognize who's my fellow believers, I read their language how they speak about God.
It's like I recognize your language, it's not from God-it's Watchtowers literature: which has nothing to do with Jesus.
You may come claiming-but the Watchtower are more focused upon Jehovah-not Jesus.
So obviously you are speaking another language, that has nothing to do with God Himself. Turn from your evil way Max and give yourself to Christ-only He can save you-heal you, and takeaway the blindness out of your eye;s..

MaxInDHouse:
Just name one or two of your fellow believers on this forum who aren't BORN AGAIN that's all!

MaxInDHouse:
Still you haven't answered the simple question Mr Churchgoer
Satanists always contradicting yourselves on this forum yet you're all claiming BORN AGAIN!

brocab:
Would I have any fellow believers on this forum who aren't born again, answer to that, "No they wouldn't be my fellow believers
My fellow believers are born again in Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Jesus said his BORN AGAIN friends will have the same line of thought {John 17:22} so go and settle your differences first before coming to advertise your type of BORN AGAIN to JWs!

brocab:
{Luke 3:16} John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
{Luke 11:13} If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”
So now we have the Father and the Son given their Spirit {One Holy Spirit} to the believer's. it's no good arguing against the scriptures janosky you are acting us a fool trying.
{John 1:33} I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.

Brocab,in which sentence of your Luke11:33 or John 1:33 did Jesus call holy spirit your deity or say worship it?

Oga, carry your mumu doctrine go to dustbin.

brocab:
{John 17:22} I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one.
You don't even believe in this verse-when Jesus claims He is One with His Father, so how can you be one with them, when you don't believe in the word trinity, so it would be impossible for you, to believe, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One.
You JW's believe Jesus spirit is separate from Jehovah's spirit, so how does your spirit connect?
Your knowledge of the Holy Spirit, is some type of a active force, so how does a active force connect-it would be like a electric shock.
If you were honest within, and told me you were a stoner, I would believe you.

Janosky:
You are desperate to add to the holy scriptures.

Is "holy spirit" mentioned at John 17:22?

Oga,carry your GIBBERISH outta this thread.

Janosky:
Brocab,in which sentence of your Luke11:33 or John 1:33 did Jesus call holy spirit your deity or say worship it?

Oga, carry your mumu doctrine go to dustbin.

brocab:
I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one.

brocab:
If you told me you were a stoner like I believe Max is, I would believe you too,