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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 1:29pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


No need for Obi to disguise we know he is a Biafran agitator which is why he finds it hard to condemn them.

Your candidate doesn't believe in one Nigeria and he's the one pleading for secessionist movement.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:29pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


Amen
angry angry grin

Mumu man
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 1:29pm On Jan 10, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:41pm On Jan 10, 2023
Emaprince:
angry angry grin

Mumu man

What's this about?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:41pm On Jan 10, 2023
EmmanuelScott1:


Your candidate doesn't believe in one Nigeria and he's the one pleading for secessionist movement.

There is nowhere Tinubu was asked about Yoruba Nation that he did not condemn them unlike Obi
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 1:44pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


There is nowhere Tinubu was asked about Yoruba Nation that he did not condemn them unlike Obi

grin grin your candidate wanted secessionist movement since 1997, before Nnamdi kanu did, Tinubu already did
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 1:47pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


At a venue where APC were canvassing for votes to be the party ticket holder

Tinubu said If it's by intellect, I am well educated. If it's by age, I am the oldest. This ticket it's Yorubas turn and among Yoruba it's my turn.

Now what is the issue you have with that statement given by Tinubu to strictly APC delegates when he was in primary season?
The point is for him to have based his ambition on the frail irresponsible idea in the bolded. Such selfish irresponsibility and insensitivity.

He cares for one alone. Himself.

He will not rule the country. God forbid that the lives of future generations would be sacrificed on the alter of a single selfish human being.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:51pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


What's this about?
Nothing serious.

Be like you don lose your sense of humour
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:00pm On Jan 10, 2023
DissTroy:



Also, El Rufail mentioned in his memoir "The Accidental Public Servant" that Tinubu fraudulently connived to bankrupt NEPA and own the organisation and acted with late Chief Bola Ige who was Minister of Justice under Obasanjo. Tinubu wanted to steal a federal coy the whole economy and country depends on as his.
He tricked Obasanjo to sign and if not for El Rufai, we'd have grown up shouting "Up BAT!" instead of "Up NEPA" when electricity is restored.


Let any of them deny it, and I'd provide the link. They believed Obi prevented El Rufai from going to Anambra during elections so they must believe El Rufai's accusations on BAT now too.

El Rufai on how he stopped Bola Tinubu from ripping off the federal government:


"One of my memorable early experiences in BPE was a political baptism of fire – an encounter that opportunity to cash in on that misfortune. They did something similar in India in the 1990s and it went really wrong but they learnt some lessons and came to Nigeria with a more refined approach. What

Enron proposed was to supply second-hand, barge-based generators (moveable and easy to relocate in case of payment defaults) using diesel initially, to be supplied by Wale Tinubu’s Ocean & Oil Ltd. (now Oando) [b] until gas pipelines are extended from Egbin to the barges’ location, to provide initially 90MW and expandable to 540MW of electricity exclusively for Lagos State.


[b]
The Lagos State governor, Bola Tinubu, his finance commissioner Wale Edun, budget commissioner Yemi Cardoso, Gbenga Oyebode of Aluko & Oyebode, Wale Tinubu and Tunde Folawiyo, all of them friends or acquaintances of mine, were involved in the transaction at various levels and capacities.
There were only three hurdles that needed to be crossed. First was the legal reality of the time: that only federally-owned National Electricity Power Authority (NEPA) could buy, transmit and distribute power so the cooperation of the Federal Government (FGN) was needed.


Second was that NEPA was notorious for not paying its bills (even to government-owned companies like the Nigerian Gas Company which supplies it with feedstock), so some payment security arrangements needed to be put in place in anticipation of NEPA’s default, and finally Enron would require a sovereign guarantee in the event that NEPA fails to pay and the security arrangement fails to crystallise or is exhausted by multiple defaults. Enron and Bola Tinubu found a way by getting Chief Bola Ige, a fellow opposition AD party leader working in a PDP administration, to get Obasanjo to sign off on the transaction without any cabinet review or rigorous inter-agency discussions. Bola Ige also obtained the president’s consent to sign a sovereign guarantee on behalf of the Federal Government of Nigeria something only the Minister of Finance was legally authorized to do.

There were no loud protest from NEPA management who could foresee the dangers of potential corporate insolvency because they all believe resistance was fruitless since Minister Bola Ige had the ears of President Obasanjo. Everything was signed, sealed and delivered and we all read about it in the newspapers. I was concerned that this could negatively impact the future privatization of NEPA and requested the VP to obtain copies of the agreements signed for our review. This was barely two weeks after I resumed, and then early in December 1999, we received the ‘power purchase agreement’ (PPA) of over 100 pages including annexes, annexures and other attachments.


We could not make any sense out of it. We approached Norton Rose of the UK, and two local law firms, A B Mahmoud & Co. based in Kano and George Ikoli & Okagbue of Lagos to undertake a review of the power purchase agreement. Norton Rose needed several weeks, and instinctively I knew we had to figure this out before it got too late, and several weeks night be too late. The local law firms submitted the outcome of their reviews within a short period, but what we got were not very helpful in isolating the potential impact of the PPA on our power sector reform programme.

The agreement was highly technical with enough equations and integrals to scare all but the most mathematically proficient of lawyers. At this point, I approached the World Bank country office for assistance. Trevor Byer, the country director who fortuitously had been involved in power sector reforms elsewhere before his posting to Nigeria, was very very helpful, proactive and immediately responsive. Within a couple of weeks, we received a summary of the agreement, its impact on privatization, what the equations and annexes meant in terms of tariffs, security arrangements, dollar payments and contingent liabilities. I immediately briefed the Vice President who was alarmed at the findings, and he instructed me to draft a memo for onward transmission to President Obasanjo.


Within five weeks of taking over the headship of BPE, I drafted the first of many memos which would be forwarded to the drawing attention to surreptitious steps being taken by line ministries to frustrate sector reforms and privatization.
The Lagos State-Enron case was particularly dangerous as it would have bankrupted NEPA almost overnight! The president immediately put the transaction on hold and commended the vice president for briefing him on the implications of the deal.



The VP set up a ministerial committee chaired by Minister of State Danjuma Goje, with BPE, the Federal Ministry of Finance,and Lagos State Government represented as members,to review the agreement. Enron immediately hired GoodWorks International, the global advisory firm co-founded by former US Ambassador to the UN, Andrew Young, to influence the outcome of the review, while Bola Ige and some sections of the South-West media got busy attacking me, the vice president and the BPE for depriving Lagos and Yoruba people of steady electricity’.
Note how Tinubu played the tribal card after being caught trying to bankrupt Nigeria? Let's move on.

We declined to respond, focusing on fixing what we saw as a potential stumbling block to reforming and privatizing our electricity supply industry.


I am glad we truncated the original deal, but even the better and arrangement which reduced tariffs from 8.5 cents per kilowatt – hour to just 1 cent a kilowatt – hour ended up placing huge financial burdens on NEPA years into the future – and the undertaking we extracted from Lagos State to share part of the burden was subsequently challenged court, and remained in dispute until we left office.

My Enron experience was an education of sort. I learnt many new lessons that dispelled my naivety. Well-informed and trusted friends put pressure on me to look the other way because they were advisers or consultants to Enron, or were potential; beneficiaries in the transaction. My explanations and passionate representations that the transaction was inimical to national interest, negatively impacts the long-term viability of NEPA and threatened the reforms of the electricity industry were neither nor relevant to their position.


I saw starkly how government officials were willing to prevent the interest of the country to impress foreigners, or obtain preferences for those they thought were their kinsmen.
It was an early sobering experience and an appreciation of the reigning dictum of every one for himself, and no one for the country."


~ Source: The Accidental Public Servant (Page 81 – 84) by Nasir El Rufai


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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:02pm On Jan 10, 2023
Spy360:

The point is for him to have based his ambition on the frail irresponsible idea in the bolded. Such selfish irresponsibility and insensitivity.

He cares for one alone. Himself.

He will not rule the country. God forbid that the lives of future generations would be sacrificed on the alter of a single selfish human being.

This was exactly the same thing Obi said and I'm waiting for you to call it frail and irresponsible

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:03pm On Jan 10, 2023
EmmanuelScott1:


grin grin your candidate wanted secessionist movement since 1997, before Nnamdi kanu did, Tinubu already did

Tinubu did not give excuse and make himself the spokesman for secessionist agitators like Obi
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 2:04pm On Jan 10, 2023
EmmanuelScott1:

grin grin your candidate wanted secessionist movement since 1997, before Nnamdi kanu did, Tinubu already did

Spy360:

The point is for him to have based his ambition on the frail irresponsible idea in the bolded. Such selfish irresponsibility and insensitivity.
He cares for one alone. Himself.
He will not rule the country. God forbid that the lives of future generations would be sacrificed on the alter of a single selfish human being.

Talk true, like honestly honestly, what do you think you will achieve by going back and forth with dayo on this politics issue? Like do you really believe there is a reasonable dialogue to be had with dayo? You people are just wasting your time and every single person on tgis thread knows it so why waste the effort? We already know the makeup of his mindset.

If you really want to shut him up for good, keep asking him the reasons for making the ugly posts he has made before and watch him run away, at least he can't accuse you people of beefing him.

Ask him why he nicknamed the Igbo tribe as cannibals and beasts. Ask him why he thinks Jonathan founded Boko Haram in conjunction with shekau, ask him why he advised Nigerians to vote purely on the basis of tribe, ask him why tribe should be a factor in elections regardless of candidate quality. Ask him what Obasanjo did to him.

Ask him all these and watch him run away within 2 seconds.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 2:07pm On Jan 10, 2023
If you want dayo to run away, ask him what he was thinking when typing these.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 2:11pm On Jan 10, 2023
Collectively put pressure on him to explain these and watch how he is relegated to making jokes to cover it up. grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 2:52pm On Jan 10, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:00pm On Jan 10, 2023
Donjazet2:
Collectively put pressure on him to explain these and watch how he is relegated to making jokes to cover it up. grin

LOL You are such a loser in life that its so funny

Collectively lets put pressure

You have not asked people to collectively help you to fix your wretched life

72hours ago it was Blueray abeg help me join body for this emotional blackmail

12hrs ago its wailing about how come my brother 1b1me you are not joining me in my crusade against Dayo

Today its my fellow comrades lets collectively put pressure

LOL Maybe there might be some losers who will join you sha

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:01pm On Jan 10, 2023
Donjazet2:
If you want dayo to run away, ask him what he was thinking when typing these.

What were you thinking when you posted the below

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Jan 10, 2023
Donjazet2:




Talk true, like honestly honestly, what do you think you will achieve by going back and forth with dayo on this politics issue? Like do you really believe there is a reasonable dialogue to be had with dayo? You people are just wasting your time and every single person on tgis thread knows it so why waste the effort? We already know the makeup of his mindset.

If you really want to shut him up for good, keep asking him the reasons for making the ugly posts he has made before and watch him run away, at least he can't accuse you people of beefing him.

Ask him why he nicknamed the Igbo tribe as cannibals and beasts. Ask him why he thinks Jonathan founded Boko Haram in conjunction with shekau, ask him why he advised Nigerians to vote purely on the basis of tribe, ask him why tribe should be a factor in elections regardless of candidate quality. Ask him what Obasanjo did to him.

Ask him all these and watch him run away within 2 seconds.

We need to ask you why you told us that APC is sponsoring Simon Ekpa your brother
Why did you wish Obi will die in a terrible plane crash
Why did you call Yoruba bastards

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 3:10pm On Jan 10, 2023
Juju believers needs to see this:

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 3:15pm On Jan 10, 2023
BlueRayDick watch your man interview. You go laugh tire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWQ_ikPkWGE
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 3:19pm On Jan 10, 2023
See this one giving weed to a child like wtf is wrong with people

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 3:24pm On Jan 10, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 3:31pm On Jan 10, 2023
raumdeuter:


LOL You are such a loser in life that its so funny
Collectively lets put pressure
You have not asked people to collectively help you to fix your wretched life
72hours ago it was Blueray abeg help me join body for this emotional blackmail
12hrs ago its wailing about how come my brother 1b1me you are not joining me in my crusade against Dayo
Today its my fellow comrades lets collectively put pressure
LOL Maybe there might be some losers who will join you sha


Is that fear I smell? grin cheesy grin
The fear of "losers" asking you why you decided to be very foolish and wicked because of tribalism? grin

Are you scared kitty kitty that a bunch of "losers" will get to be curious as to why you were calling Jonathan a Boko Haram founder and nicknaming the igbos cannibals and beasts?

Is that fvcking fear I smell? grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 3:34pm On Jan 10, 2023
Itsrm:
BlueRayDick watch your man interview. You go laugh tire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWQ_ikPkWGE
The guy go sell as comedian
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Jan 10, 2023
Donjazet2:


Is that fear I smell? grin cheesy grin
The fear of "losers" asking you why you decided to be very foolish and wicked because of tribalism? grin

Are you scared kitty kitty that a bunch of "losers" will get to be curious as to why you were calling Jonathan a Boko Haram founder and nicknaming the igbos cannibals and beasts?

Is that fvcking fear I smell? grin

You smell fear? Given the history of your sense of smell its no suprise

You smelt that I was sleek-433, you smelt that I was nihilist, you smelt that I was Gbola you have smelt many horrible things that have messed up your life already

I am curious why you will say APC is responsible for Simon Ekpa

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Jan 10, 2023
I cant do this agenda alone. I cannot face Dayo alone he is beating me

Bluray come and help me, 1bim3 dont leave me alone help me, R0landd how come you have not said anything in my support, Politics thread come and see someone beating me, you have gone to call your fellow losers from politics section you have gone everywhere to beg for support

Is it because you are intellectually incapable of facing me yourself that you need backup?

Boo hoo hoo help me Dayo is making my life miserable

Arinze Your suffering just begin. By February ending it would be compounded

I am sure whoever raised you will be ashamed of the type of weakling they raised who is seeking a mob to help him out

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 3:50pm On Jan 10, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 4:11pm On Jan 10, 2023
iamoyindamola:

The guy go sell as comedian
This is what I always say cause his speech is always a comic relief to me grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:22pm On Jan 10, 2023
iamoyindamola:

The guy go sell as comedian

That's what I thought as I watched. He likely would have done well as a comedian cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 4:29pm On Jan 10, 2023
DissTroy:

It's on GoodReads. Google Books too. Just google "The Accidental Public Servant by El Rufai".
You'd find the incidences I referenced in pages 81 through 84.
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Uncharacteristically, you have played blind to my comments comparing Tinubu and Obi. Today. You realise there's nothing to defend Tinubu for based on the debt profile and campaigning with tribe.

I preempt if you even attempt to answer, you'd go the tribal while ignoring the #817 billion debt despite high IGR, and FAAC allocations.
I didn't realize anything bro. I want to read the book for myself.

As for debt, countries owe debt, not only Nigeria, so it's nothing new. Countries borrow to execute project, it's not new. However what I find repulsive is when such money borrowed isn't used for what it was borrowed for.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 5:00pm On Jan 10, 2023
izzou:


Hero beer is hardly seen in Lagos. The bar has to be patronised by mostly SEasterners for them to sell it. Even in Trade fair that i am, many beer sellers do not have it. You are a liar on that, and yes i stand by what I said

Hero is a shiity beer and i agreed with you. So unless you have problems with reading or comprehension, i can't remember where i dragged you for calling it shitty

In the SE, Hero is among the top 3 brands. I said SE. All my comments have been centred on the SE. If you want to rate it in the whole country, that is your headache.

Heineken and Budweiser are the most expensive beers in the country. They taste better, but i don't understand what you mean by outclass.

For every bottle of Heineken or Bud that they sell in a bar, someone must have taken two bottles of Life, Goldberg, 33, Hero, Trophy, etc. Anybody going to beer parlours know this

If Heineken was dominating the market in the SE, why will NB create a new brand then?

Stop arguing with your emotions. You know nothing, my guy

My brand back in the day.....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:03pm On Jan 10, 2023
Itsrm:
BlueRayDick watch your man interview. You go laugh tire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWQ_ikPkWGE

Portable my man grin. Wotowoto dey bring money !

I watched the interview on TikTok about a week ago. Portable weyrey say all those people wey help am no help am, he say na rip dem rip am grin

There was a part he mentioned that anytime he wants to apply for visa they will just find people join body add am and dem go deny am visa . The guy mouth no get filter at all

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