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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by unzend: 11:17am On Jan 12, 2023
Please House where can I get original ceiling PVC in Lagos here.

Also at Ibadan

ANy leads?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ollykay619(m): 11:25am On Jan 12, 2023
folmus:


For Kobo Kobo, Long span is a sure banker!! The gauges are all good depending on your pocket.
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ollykay619(m): 11:26am On Jan 12, 2023
oduncojamaica:


If you are going for step tile - minimum of 0.5
Long span - 0.45 is good
Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 11:46am On Jan 12, 2023
Based on my experience in water tanks installation both in theory and practical.
If you have a building of 20-24ft it’s strongly advisable to do height of 30-38ft water tank.

If your building is btw 9-12ft (bungalow) it’s ok to do btw 15-18ft water tank height.

Here is it in theory and practical
If you need 1-2bar of water pressure which is just AVERAGELY ok for domestic building your tanks should be in height of 12-18ft in a bungalow this will give you 1-2bar which means a bucket of 20lts will filled up btw
2-3min
In practical plumber will run the supply pipe through ground which means the water tank still remain 12-18ft height to supply such pressure BUT if he try to run the water through roof it mean the height is just only 3-6ft which is VERY BAD bcs water heater will not run and shower also.

In case of a story building it’s the same theory and practical.

If your tank is 25-28ft and you run your water through roof same WATER SHORTAGE will happened bcs the height you have at upper floor is just ONLY 5-8ft ( the building height will be btw 20-22ft )
And if you run it through ground then go back up water shortage will still occurred in upper kitchen, shower etc ( it’s real ) means to filled up 20lts bucket it will take like 5-6min at 0.5 BAR mostly when your water reaches half tank … Any body can try this.

Most of my project I usually do 35-38ft ( duplex)
15-18ft bungalow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sethtsadopp: 12:02pm On Jan 12, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Client and Vendor have made contact. Number has been deleted

Thanks sir.
By the way, I know you're a very meticulous person so I wanted to know, has he done any cubicle work for you and recommended.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oduncojamaica(m): 12:05pm On Jan 12, 2023
rotecch77:
Based on my experience in water tanks installation both in theory and practical.
If you have a building of 20-24ft it’s strongly advisable to do height of 30-38ft water tank.

If your building is btw 9-12ft (bungalow) it’s ok to do btw 15-18ft water tank height.

Here is it in theory and practical
If you need 1-2bar of water pressure which is just AVERAGELY ok for domestic building your tanks should be in height of 12-18ft in a bungalow this will give you 1-2bar which means a bucket of 20lts will filled up btw
2-3min
In practical plumber will run the supply pipe through ground which means the water tank still remain 12-18ft height to supply such pressure BUT if he try to run the water through roof it mean the height is just only 3-6ft which is VERY BAD bcs water heater will not run and shower also.

In case of a story building it’s the same theory and practical.

If your tank is 25-28ft and you run your water through roof same WATER SHORTAGE will happened bcs the height you have at upper floor is just ONLY 5-8ft ( the building height will be btw 20-22ft )
And if you run it through ground then go back up water shortage will still occurred in upper kitchen, shower etc ( it’s real ) means to filled up 20lts bucket it will take like 5-6min at 0.5 BAR mostly when your water reaches half tank … Any body can try this.

Most of my project I usually do 35-38ft ( duplex)
15-18ft bungalow.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 12:14pm On Jan 12, 2023
sethtsadopp:


Thanks sir.
By the way, I know you're a very meticulous person so I wanted to know, has he done any cubicle work for you and recommended.

He has done other aluminum works for me.

Aluminum Windows, Aluminum Window Nets, he is about to do Aluminum doors for me.

I feel you are in safe hands
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Epsstore: 1:04pm On Jan 12, 2023
hamtabfawaz:



Unfortunately, I don't concur with you on this.

its not about whether you agree or not, its the same pop white & pop paint that is used to screed polystyrene, if your pop stopped the fire spreading further, why won,t the polystyrene ceiling react the same way since its screeded or plastered with the same pop cement/paint that was used to form pop?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:09pm On Jan 12, 2023
michlins:
the reason why public waters are elevated is because they're not serving just a duplex. It's public water and there are instances where some houses are taller than 25ft and high as 50ft. You will not notice any drop in pressure until the last drop of water off your tank.

Going by your analogy,in instances where you have 4 storeys building,that means you will have to do 90ft tank stand since you want to double the height.

The height of the water overhead water tank must be adequate to ensure a constant minimum pressure to all outlet. See the attached as a guide. This is best practice.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:14pm On Jan 12, 2023
rotecch77:
Based on my experience in water tanks installation both in theory and practical.
If you have a building of 20-24ft it’s strongly advisable to do height of 30-38ft water tank.

If your building is btw 9-12ft (bungalow) it’s ok to do btw 15-18ft water tank height.

Here is it in theory and practical
If you need 1-2bar of water pressure which is just AVERAGELY ok for domestic building your tanks should be in height of 12-18ft in a bungalow this will give you 1-2bar which means a bucket of 20lts will filled up btw
2-3min
In practical plumber will run the supply pipe through ground which means the water tank still remain 12-18ft height to supply such pressure BUT if he try to run the water through roof it mean the height is just only 3-6ft which is VERY BAD bcs water heater will not run and shower also.

In case of a story building it’s the same theory and practical.

If your tank is 25-28ft and you run your water through roof same WATER SHORTAGE will happened bcs the height you have at upper floor is just ONLY 5-8ft ( the building height will be btw 20-22ft )
And if you run it through ground then go back up water shortage will still occurred in upper kitchen, shower etc ( it’s real ) means to filled up 20lts bucket it will take like 5-6min at 0.5 BAR mostly when your water reaches half tank … Any body can try this.

Most of my project I usually do 35-38ft ( duplex)
15-18ft bungalow.

Well done. This is best practice.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:20pm On Jan 12, 2023
Until lately, tanks are placed on the rooftop and the water pressure is adequate for the home it's meant for. What suddenly changed or are you discussing issues you know absolutely nothing about.

Gravity is same everywhere, you don't increase gravity by increasing height of the fall.

Once your tank is above your shower head, you already have enough pressure you need.

diordaves:


The height of the water overhead water tank must be adequate to ensure a constant minimum pressure to all outlet. See the attached as a guide. This is best practice.
That being said,if you want to do 60ft for a bungalow, it's your money and I have zero control on how you choose to spend it. If anything, focus should be on the foundation of the tank stand.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:24pm On Jan 12, 2023
rotecch77:
Based on my experience in water tanks installation both in theory and practical.
If you have a building of 20-24ft it’s strongly advisable to do height of 30-38ft water tank.

If your building is btw 9-12ft (bungalow) it’s ok to do btw 15-18ft water tank height.

Here is it in theory and practical
If you need 1-2bar of water pressure which is just AVERAGELY ok for domestic building your tanks should be in height of 12-18ft in a bungalow this will give you 1-2bar which means a bucket of 20lts will filled up btw
2-3min
In practical plumber will run the supply pipe through ground which means the water tank still remain 12-18ft height to supply such pressure BUT if he try to run the water through roof it mean the height is just only 3-6ft which is VERY BAD bcs water heater will not run and shower also.

In case of a story building it’s the same theory and practical.

If your tank is 25-28ft and you run your water through roof same WATER SHORTAGE will happened bcs the height you have at upper floor is just ONLY 5-8ft ( the building height will be btw 20-22ft )
And if you run it through ground then go back up water shortage will still occurred in upper kitchen, shower etc ( it’s real ) means to filled up 20lts bucket it will take like 5-6min at 0.5 BAR mostly when your water reaches half tank … Any body can try this.

Most of my project I usually do 35-38ft ( duplex)
15-18ft bungalow.
a four storey building is 45ft, what's the ideal height of the tank stand and how do you intend to practically achieve it

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 1:44pm On Jan 12, 2023
michlins:
a four storey building is 45ft, what's the ideal height of the tank stand and how do you intend to practically achieve it

You want me to go deeper on water supply System both in domestic and industrial system. Well it what I know but I will just explain it in simpler form

You see high rise building and sky scraper water supply system connection is a bit critical.
This is it l, most of these high building mostly have there water tank setup on ground floor and a well design transfer pump will be installed to do the job plus booster pump in each section of the building ( the explanation is much and the sep up is critical than what I can explain fully here.)
Again some also do have GIANT WATER TANK with about 12inch diameter pipe from the height of about 100ft with about 100bar pressure to supply any building around the municipal, this system doesn’t need any booster pump to get pressure in any building around bcs all building around will be tapping the water from the 12inch pipe with 1 or 2inches pipe to supply such into the building
Imaging the pressure you wi get from 12 inches pipe to 1inch pipe.
Here is the standard system
You can try visit any 4-5 star hotel or any high riise building you will get my explanation beta
Or any water cooperation around


It’s a whole lot of work ooo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:03pm On Jan 12, 2023
rotecch77:


You want me to go deeper on water supply System both in domestic and industrial system. Well it what I know but I will just explain it in simpler form

You see high rise building and sky scraper water supply system connection is a bit critical.
This is it l, most of these high building mostly have there water tank setup on ground floor and a well design transfer pump will be installed to do the job plus booster pump in each section of the building ( the explanation is much and the sep up is critical than what I can explain fully here.)
Again some also do have GIANT WATER TANK with about 12inch diameter pipe from the height of about 100ft with about 100bar pressure to supply any building around the municipal, this system doesn’t need any booster pump to get pressure in any building around bcs all building around will be tapping the water from the 12inch pipe with 1 or 2inches pipe to supply such into the building
Imaging the pressure you wi get from 12 inches pipe to 1inch pipe.
Here is the standard system


It’s a whole lot of work ooo
I'm not talking about commercial skyscraper. Just a four storey building with just about eight flats. What's the ideal height of the tank stand?

You folks have a way of making simple things very much complicated

See, to whom it may concern, once your tank stand is at same height with your parapet, you're good to go and you will not notice any significant loss of water pressure until last drop.

But if doing 40ft tank stand for your 23ft building will give you the satisfaction of maximum water pressure, do it. If your standard is public water system that services homes hundreds of kilometres away,aim for it. The sky is your limit

It's your money that you will spend and if you pay me, I will do exactly what you want.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:12pm On Jan 12, 2023
michlins:
Until lately, tanks are placed on the rooftop and the water pressure is adequate for the home it's meant for. What suddenly changed or are you discussing issues you know absolutely nothing about.

Gravity is same everywhere, you don't increase gravity by increasing height of the fall.

Once your tank is above your shower head, you already have enough pressure you need.

That being said,if you want to do 60ft for a bungalow, it's your money and I have zero control on how you choose to spend it. If anything, focus should be on the foundation of the tank stand.


Ok
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by visaclick: 3:00pm On Jan 12, 2023
michlins:
I'm not talking about commercial skyscraper. Just a four storey building with just about eight flats. What's the ideal height of the tank stand?

You folks have a way of making simple things very much complicated

See, to whom it may concern, once your tank stand is at same height with your parapet, you're good to go and you will not notice any significant loss of water pressure until last drop.

But if doing 40ft tank stand for your 23ft building will give you the satisfaction of maximum water pressure, do it. If your standard is public water system that services homes hundreds of kilometres away,aim for it. The sky is your limit

It's your money that you will spend and if you pay me, I will do exactly what you want.
stop arguing the obvious, rotecch77 is very correct. My dad's home due to him being on budget he installed the tank overhead the kitchen and the bathroom shower can't even run properly, the kitchen tap is even the slowest and now we are planning to get the steel tank sooner. A water tank has to be sufficiently higher than the last floor level to gather sufficient pressure for Optimum h20 supply.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 3:19pm On Jan 12, 2023
visaclick:
stop arguing the obvious, rotecch77 is very correct. My dad's home due to him being on budget he installed the tank overhead the kitchen and the bathroom shower can't even run properly, the kitchen tap is even the slowest and now we are planning to get the steel tank sooner. A water tank has to be sufficiently higher than the last floor level to gather sufficient pressure for Optimum h20 supply.

I have experienced this before.

Question though what if someone has several thanks at that level, say 2 or 3 all connected to the same flat?

Would it still have pressure issues?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 3:30pm On Jan 12, 2023
FEGEITOK:


I have experienced this before.

Question though what if someone has several thanks at that level, say 2 or 3 all connected to the same flat?

Would it still have pressure issues?

You MAY still have the same issue irrespective of the number of tanks.

The game changer is at the position of your water heater as this is the highest point (outlet) of use in homes.

From the water heater point (level), the base of your tank must be minimum 5 meters higher to have good constant water pressure.

Again, the game changer is how high is the base of your tank from your water heater. If this is not high enough, you are significantly at risk to suffer periodic pressure issues.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 3:30pm On Jan 12, 2023
unzend:
Please House where can I get original ceiling PVC in Lagos here.

Also at Ibadan

ANy leads?

Amoula PVC seems to be your sure bet. They have been around. They have office in Lagos.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by visaclick: 3:45pm On Jan 12, 2023
FEGEITOK:


I have experienced this before.

Question though what if someone has several thanks at that level, say 2 or 3 all connected to the same flat?

Would it still have pressure issues?
if the tanks are connected in series then no it wouldn't. But talking about each tank supplying separate part of the building at lower head room yes there will be loss in pressure. This phenomena is similar to the fanta drinking straw grin. When the mouth is empty there's sufficient suction to draw up fluid but as the fluid fills the mouth theres less suction.
pressure increases with height and surface area.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 4:00pm On Jan 12, 2023
diordaves:


You MAY still have the same issue irrespective of the number of tanks.

The game changer is at the position of your water heater as this is the highest point (outlet) of use in homes.

From the water heater point (level), the base of your tank must be minimum 5 meters higher to have good constant water pressure.

Again, the game changer is how high is the base of your tank from your water heater. If this is not high enough, you are significantly at risk to suffer periodic pressure issues.

I just read it up.

The key factor is elevation, not distance.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 4:01pm On Jan 12, 2023
visaclick:
if the tanks are connected in series then no it wouldn't. But talking about each tank supplying separate part of the building at lower head room yes there will be loss in pressure. This phenomena is similar to the fanta drinking straw grin. When the mouth is empty there's sufficient suction to draw up fluid but as the fluid fills the mouth theres less suction.
pressure increases with height and surface area.

Thanks for the illustrations

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by unzend: 5:04pm On Jan 12, 2023
folmus:


Amoula PVC seems to be your sure bet. They have been around. They have office in Lagos.

Thanks
Their office location please?
and any contact number?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 5:07pm On Jan 12, 2023
P = pgh
Gravity and height are involved in determining pressure
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 5:10pm On Jan 12, 2023
michlins:
Until lately, tanks are placed on the rooftop and the water pressure is adequate for the home it's meant for. What suddenly changed or are you discussing issues you know absolutely nothing about.

Gravity is same everywhere, you don't increase gravity by increasing height of the fall.

Once your tank is above your shower head, you already have enough pressure you need.

That being said,if you want to do 60ft for a bungalow, it's your money and I have zero control on how you choose to spend it. If anything, focus should be on the foundation of the tank stand.

If you drop an egg-sized stone on to your head from a height just an inch above your head, you'll hardly get hurt, but just imagine same stone falling from the top of a four storey building on to your head on the ground floor grin grin ....My brother, height does matter a lot, no need to argue this one abeg.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 5:45pm On Jan 12, 2023
unzend:


Thanks
Their office location please?
and any contact number?

I don't have them but you can check them on Instagram or google for their website
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hezbola: 5:49pm On Jan 12, 2023
Hezbola:
Please where can I get this door handles and good door locks ..?
guys help nah..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 6:05pm On Jan 12, 2023
sonnie10:
P = pgh
Gravity and height are involved in determining pressure

You are right.

Sadly in this case our resident metal fabricator got it wrong.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 6:09pm On Jan 12, 2023
FEGEITOK:


You are right.

Sadly in this case our resident metal fabricator got it wrong.

Not really. It depends on the the desired pressure and the small p which is the intrinsic pressure from the tank’s content.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cash1115(m): 6:25pm On Jan 12, 2023
visaclick:
nice one bro congratulations. I knew this year will be a better year when I got alert on first morning of January grin cheesy
yea it’s gonna be a good year for us in Jesus name

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:26pm On Jan 12, 2023
Rany4all:
If you drop an egg-sized stone on to your head from a height just an inch above your head, you'll hardly get hurt, but just imagine same stone falling from the top of a four storey building on to your head on the ground floor grin grin ....My brother, height does matter a lot, no need to argue this one abeg.
sir, like I said,if you believe 40ft tank will give you the required pressure on a bungalow be willing to pay for it and I will be willing to do same for you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 7:45pm On Jan 12, 2023
Thanks for sharing this.

rotecch77:
Based on my experience in water tanks installation both in theory and practical.
If you have a building of 20-24ft it’s strongly advisable to do height of 30-38ft water tank.

If your building is btw 9-12ft (bungalow) it’s ok to do btw 15-18ft water tank height.

Here is it in theory and practical
If you need 1-2bar of water pressure which is just AVERAGELY ok for domestic building your tanks should be in height of 12-18ft in a bungalow this will give you 1-2bar which means a bucket of 20lts will filled up btw
2-3min
In practical plumber will run the supply pipe through ground which means the water tank still remain 12-18ft height to supply such pressure BUT if he try to run the water through roof it mean the height is just only 3-6ft which is VERY BAD bcs water heater will not run and shower also.

In case of a story building it’s the same theory and practical.

If your tank is 25-28ft and you run your water through roof same WATER SHORTAGE will happened bcs the height you have at upper floor is just ONLY 5-8ft ( the building height will be btw 20-22ft )
And if you run it through ground then go back up water shortage will still occurred in upper kitchen, shower etc ( it’s real ) means to filled up 20lts bucket it will take like 5-6min at 0.5 BAR mostly when your water reaches half tank … Any body can try this.

Most of my project I usually do 35-38ft ( duplex)
15-18ft bungalow.

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