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Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by ImperialYoruba: 12:09am On Jan 28, 2023
Penguin2:
When I saw the “Go lo lo lo” and “Buga won” references, it dawned on me that the judgment was written and given to Justice Kume to read.

I cannot, and will never believe, [s]that a Judge who is from Benue and does not understand Yoruba[/s] will be making reference to a Yoruba line in a song in the most trivial of manners for a case as serious as the mandate of the generality of Osun people.

I’m ashamed that something like this can still happen now, when we thought our judiciary was beginning to get things right.

I’m no longer surprised how Akpabio and APC governorship candidate in Akwa Ibom got their judgments.
Bold part of OP remark has been struck out for lack of evidence and coherence.

The OP shall remain remanded in prison pending a bail hearing hereby set for May 30th.

Court adjourns!
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:11am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
Section 136 clearly states that a tribunal can nullify the winner if he wasn't validly elected and declare the next person winner
Unbelievable.
In other words, if one was awarded victory with, for example, a million votes ahead of the first runners up, but an election Tribunal later discovers thar the winner had, for example, 500 invalid votes counted in his favour, the runners up who trailed behind with 950,000 valid votes scored, can be declared winner? Don't tell this to politicians.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Julliet1122: 12:11am On Jan 28, 2023
fergie001:
Have you read the minority judgement, No?
You based your assertion on the majority....hmm.
Let me even tell you judges are even bias in their judgment with the minority judgement? Adeleke SSCE is F9 parallel that already knocked him down but a lot of you act as if you know better than the law itself when mixing your emotions with what should be normal reasoned Adeleke and his party know how they settled during the election INEC official without calculating the consequence will get the money allow over voting, record and announce you dey trust politicians at your own peril
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Julliet1122: 12:16am On Jan 28, 2023
onuman:
Unbelievable.
In other words, if one was awarded victory with for example, a million votes ahead of the loser, but an election Tribunal later discovers thar the winner had, for example, 500 invalid votes counted in his favour, the loser that trailed behind with 950,000 valid votes can be declared winner? Don't tell this to politicians.
See yourself the court will minus the 500 invalid vote and count whatever remaining the winner as cited by you still lead by 500k vote do you still need explanation for that the only problem wey people get with this case is their emotion and I see a lot of angry Davido fan
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:22am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
If the requirements for “A DIRECT WIN” are not satisfied, then there should be a rerun.

Meanwhile,, in the appeal, the PDP might include it in their prayers
There is nothing like "direct" win.dont add or subtract.
Subsection one says if a winner wasn't validly elected on any ground at all,there should be fresh elections within 90 days.take note of fresh elections
Subsection 2 says if if the winner wasn't qualified,the next runner up is declared winner.no rerun.
Subsection 3 says if the winner wasn't validly elected,that is he did not score a majority of lawful or valid votes as in the case of osun,the person who scored it will be declared winner.there is no provision for a rerun,supplementary.it is either a fresh elections or a winner emerges.since cancellations were partial,there cannot be any election.the only authority with power to cancel results and order rerun based on overvoting is inec
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:25am On Jan 28, 2023
Julliet1122:
See yourself the court will minus the 500 invalid vote and count whatever remaining the winner as cited by you still lead by 500k vote do you still need explanation for that the only problem wey people get with this case is their emotion and I see a lot of angry Davido fan
You are not intelligible.
Allow me and garfield1 talk.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:25am On Jan 28, 2023
onuman:
Unbelievable.
In other words, if one was awarded victory with, for example, a million votes ahead of the first runners up, but an election Tribunal later discovers thar the winner had, for example, 500 invalid votes counted in his favour, the runners up who trailed behind with 950,000 valid votes scored, can be declared winner? Don't tell this to politicians.
He cannot be declared because if you minus 500 from 1 million,it is still more than 950,000
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by olatuns2017: 12:27am On Jan 28, 2023
Lalar27:
This is what am saying concerning the presidential election.
Nigeria politics is like a cacus if the want you to join their group they will let you join if they don't want you you can never join no Matter how popular or influential you think you are.
Yes obi is a good candidate for the president seat but he can never beat asiwaju this election. Lai lai it will never be possible.
Peter obi is just like a church rat in front of Tinubu when it come to politics
Tinubu is more powerful Among the politicians
Tinubu will surely win the election take it or leave it
Reminder


But APC won last Gov elections in Bayelsa but because of certificate of deputy he was sacked and PDP declared winner

And

APC was at the federal level


It's not about caucus


Thou

This elections is between ATiku and Tinubu

The north will never allow OBI come close to presidency esp his attitude towards IPOB



Seyi Makinde's Main Musician, and SA on Culture Taye Currency is BATified.

Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Wickedfacts: 12:29am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
Please help me with the judgmenr
Part 1 Pdf file is like 72MB. I'll look at how to upload it and send it to you.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Julliet1122:
[quotew author=onuman post=120436580]You are not intelligible.
Allow me and garfield1 talk.[/quote]
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by BluntCrazeMan: 12:32am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
Oyetola has satisfied the requirement of having the highest valid votes and spread
Section-51..Sub-section-4 should not be thrown away.

The Tribunal performed the Functions of INEC in determining over-voting..
Then it should also complete all the INEC functions in Section-51.. Sub-section-4, which has to do with the CONCLUSIVITY of the election.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:36am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Section-51..Sub-section-4 should not be thrown away.

The Tribunal performed the Functions of INEC in determining over-voting..
Then it should also complete all the INEC functions in Section-51.. Sub-section-4, which has to do with the CONCLUSIVITY of the election.
Brosman,this thing is sequential na.section 51 is not being thrown away but relevant.it is self explanatory.section 51 refers to what inec should do when there is overvoting.section 136 now refers to what the courts should do when it gets to them.section 51 at this stage irrelevant and academic.

Now,what is the job of a tribunal? It performs inec job once inec fails to do the right thing
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by BluntCrazeMan: 12:36am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
There is nothing like "direct" win.dont add or subtract.
Subsection one says if a winner wasn't validly elected on any ground at all,there should be fresh elections within 90 days.take note of fresh elections
Subsection 2 says if if the winner wasn't qualified,the next runner up is declared winner.no rerun.
Subsection 3 says if the winner wasn't validly elected,that is he did not score a majority of lawful or valid votes as in the case of osun,the person who scored it will be declared winner.there is no provision for a rerun,supplementary.it is either a fresh elections or a winner emerges.since cancellations were partial,there cannot be any election. [i]the only authority with power to cancel results and order rerun based on overvoting is inec[/b]
This becomes another Error from INEC..
Their first error in Imo State cost them so much.
They wouldn't learn from it.

Now,, they had committed another one.


Well.
Let's watch how it plays out in the higher courts
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:37am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
He cannot be declared because if you minus 500 from 1 million,it is still more than 950,000
But you earlier stated that Election Tribunal can nullify the victory awarded to a candidate if the Tribunal discovers overvoting in favour of the candidate, then award victory to the runner-up.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:38am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
This becomes another Error from INEC..
Their first error in Imo State cost them so much.
They wouldn't learn from it.

Now,, they had committed another one.


Well.
Let's watch how it plays out in the higher courts
You know experience is the best teacher.they will learn
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:39am On Jan 28, 2023
onuman:
But you earlier stated that Election Tribunal can nullify the victory awarded to a candidate if the Tribunal discovers overvoting in favour of the candidate, then award victory to the runner-up.
There is a clause.the overvoting must be substantial enough to declare another person winner
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:41am On Jan 28, 2023
Wickedfacts:
Part 1 Pdf file is like 72MB. I'll look at how to upload it and send it to you.
Or send me the link,I'll download
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by BluntCrazeMan: 12:41am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
You know experience is the best teacher.they will learn
Well..


Anything that would bring about a better Electoral System is very very okay by me.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 12:43am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
Well..


Anything that would bring about a better Electoral System is very very okay by me.
bvas is at work here
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:44am On Jan 28, 2023
Julliet1122:
See the intelligible man forming know better than the justice department your pain mend just start mumu
I did not write: "you are not intelligent."
I wrote: "you are not intelligible." Don't get offended, it's your own misunderstanding.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:47am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
There is a clause.the overvoting must be substantial enough to declare another person winner
So how substantial is overvoting in favour of the dancing governor that made the Election Tribunal award victory to the runner-up?
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Penguin2(op): 12:50am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
You were referring to Sub-section 3, that there won't be any return, until the election in such cancelled Polling-units were re-conducted..

However,, consider the Sub-section 4...
Where it says that, if the cancelled Polling-units are not going to affect the over-all results of the election, then a winner would be announced.

So..
We are assuming that they considered the 4th Sub-section too, and it was satisfied.
So you agree that the votes from over 700 polling units do not significantly affect an election and that subsection 4 is satisfied?
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by fergie001(mod): 12:51am On Jan 28, 2023
Julliet1122:
Let me even tell you judges are even bias in their judgment with the minority judgement? Adeleke SSCE is F9 parallel that already knocked him down but a lot of you act as if you know better than the law itself when mixing your emotions with what should be normal reasoned Adeleke and his party know how they settled during the election INEC official without calculating the consequence will get the money allow over voting, record and announce you dey trust politicians at your own peril
Your results is not necessary to show you are qualified.

Are you aware that you need only FSLC and having served in an organisation acceptable to INEC to contest as a Governor? It is the Constitution and it's wrong.

Job seekers need NYSC but politicians simply need FSLC.

Everybody settles in an election, if you can prove yours... Better.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by fergie001(mod): 12:53am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
But it will most certainly favour ohuhu.some of them in calabar are meeting to travel home.they want to present one candidate from ohafia aro exis
The Dep-Gov is my first pick. He is the head of the Atiku/Okowa Campaign in the State and his LGA pulls the biggest votes for the PDP in Abia-N. APC have a foothold on others.

Again, he was Speaker when TA was Governor but we'll see how it goes.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Penguin2(op): 12:54am On Jan 28, 2023
ImperialYoruba:
Bold part of OP remark has been struck out for lack of evidence and coherence.

The OP shall remain remanded in prison pending a bail hearing hereby set for May 30th.

Court adjourns!
Joker!
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by onuman: 12:54am On Jan 28, 2023
BluntCrazeMan:
This becomes another Error from INEC..
Their first error in Imo State cost them so much.
They wouldn't learn from it.

Now,, they had committed another one.


Well.
Let's watch how it plays out in the higher courts
INEC's first error in Imo state did not just cost INEC so much, it brought disaster to one part of the state, with loss of scores of lives there, and still going on.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Wickedfacts: 1:02am On Jan 28, 2023
garfield1:
Or send me the link,I'll download
Okay, I've uploaded it here.
https://files.fm/u/g62nscver?ak=8bcf6
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Wickedfacts: 1:04am On Jan 28, 2023
fergie001:
childish indeed!

Did I write the majority judgement?
I've uploaded the judgment here.
https://files.fm/u/g62nscver?ak=8bcf6

Read it and stop making yourself a laughingstock.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 1:08am On Jan 28, 2023
Wickedfacts:
Okay, I've uploaded it here.
https://files.fm/u/g62nscver?ak=8bcf6
I've seen it already. Thanks
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by Freebills12: 1:10am On Jan 28, 2023
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LegendHero:
All this you stated is INEC guideline itself, I don’t think it is binding on the court decision.

That is what INEC should have done themselves so don’t conflict the two.

You can see they are mentioning the presiding officer and etc. Check your screenshot well.



INEC the commission already declared their result. How this one take concern the court and the judgement at hand?
Haba! INEC rules that was passed in the House Respresentative and Senate House is not bidding on Election Petition Tribunal... Mr think twice. The highest APC can get from this case is fresh election in affected areas.
Re: Osun Tribunal: What The Law Says In Case Of Over Voting (picture) by garfield1: 1:12am On Jan 28, 2023
fergie001:
The Dep-Gov is my first pick. He is the head of the Atiku/Okowa Campaign in the State and his LGA pulls the biggest votes for the PDP in Abia-N. APC have a foothold on others.

Again, he was Speaker when TA was Governor but we'll see how it goes.
I just read the full judgment.the judge is witty and comical like lord justice ogbuinya.throughout the document,he made references to comics,novels,to draw home his points so using that term buga won is in tandem with the ruling
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