Lalar27:
This is what am saying concerning the presidential election.
Nigeria politics is like a cacus if the want you to join their group they will let you join if they don't want you you can never join no Matter how popular or influential you think you are.
Yes obi is a good candidate for the president seat but he can never beat asiwaju this election. Lai lai it will never be possible.
Peter obi is just like a church rat in front of Tinubu when it come to politics
Tinubu is more powerful Among the politicians
Tinubu will surely win the election take it or leave it

so what r you doing? Discouraging pple from voting the right candidate?

Okoroawusa:
Kyase, why Obidients carry this matter for head pass PDP?

Its pretty obvious na😀😀😀
Obi supporters are lowkey PDP na
And again, what they expect from BVAs and what they are seeing are in contrast 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Disappointment dey their body

Penguin2:
The lead judgment of the Osun Tribunal was hinged on over voting.

But what did the 2022 Electoral Act say about over voting?

Read the provision of the Electoral Act on over voting as captured in section 51 and decide for yourself if justice was truly served in Osun or not.

Justice was not served in Osun. If you say there was over voting in some polling units, then cancel all the votes in those units so that nobody benefits from the illegal votes, since you can't categorically tell which candidates have the over voting scenario from record. The manner in which the vote deductions were applied shows clearly that the tribunal was very biased, and were looking for any avenue to reduce Adeleke's votes.

Suffice to say that, if x number of votes from the problematic polling units are canceled, then deduct x votes from each candidates already earned votes. But doing so will ensure that Adeleke will maintain the lead, so the tribunal introduced reversed mathematics to give Oyetola victory. All of them are Mad!
This judgment is dead on arrival.

Afamed:


Your Opinion is inconsequential.

PDP mole

You like attacking this guy

AdaojoTheUrchin:
These corrupt Judges are playing with the mandates of Nigerians, they are playing with serious fire.

The Judiciary should continue to be held responsible for the anarchy they created in Imo state.

Blame INEC, not the Judiciary for the killings, destructions and arrested development in Imo state (Orlu to be precise). INEC failed to contest against the false votes handwritten by the incumbent governor.

fergie001:
Have you read the minority judgement, No? You based your assertion on the majority....hmm.

Pls Share the minority judgement,
As far as am concerned, Money had change hands to give that Majority Judgement

garfield1:


You like attacking this guy

I like speaking truth to him, he likes manipulating the minds of people on Nairaland.

He is pure PDP agent.

Does he know more than the Judges who gave verdict?

Does he know more than the SAN who represented APC?
Does he know more than the INEC who have decided not to appeal the judgement?
Those are the reasons why I called him PDP moles

Afamed:


I like speaking truth to him, he likes manipulating the minds of people on Nairaland.

He is pure PDP agent.

Does he know more than the Judges who gave verdict?

Does he know more than the SAN who represented APC?
Does he know more than the INEC who have decided not to appeal the judgement?
Those are the reasons why I called him PDP moles

I know he is pro pdp and atiku but he is at times objective

garfield1:


I know he is pro pdp and atiku but he is at times objective

Is he objective in his submission here now?

Do not allow that boy to fool you, he is completely PDP agent

New electoral law is clear.

Any polling unit , where there is an established case of over voting. The law says such polling unit should be cancelled

Both APC and PDP had overvoting. And as such results were cancelled in such units,

Why is he now crying more than the loser?

fergie001:
See, the Tribunal Chairman based his evidence on the BVAS report which is a secomdary evidence rather than the primary evidence, the machine itself.

What about the voter's register.... Useless to Justice Kume.

One of two things will happen at the Appeal Court, either it is upturned or a retrial will be ordered but since there is no time, it should be upturned.

It is funny....just take a look at the majority judgement and tell me you wouldn't laugh.

Lol. Very funny. You should know better than this. What exactly is wrong with the BVAS report? Why should the certified true copy of the BVAS report issued by INEC immediately after the election be jettisoned and not relied upon by the tribunal?

The so called second BVAS report that you guys are saying created inconsistencies and so we should jettison both and rely only on the physical machine is actually a nullity. It was manufactured a month after APC had served INEC, PDP and Adeleke its petition based on the original BVAS report. I’m sure you know that evidence cannot be manufactured during the pendency of a case.

garfield1:


I also support tonye but it seems he isn't campaigning for tinubu

Yeah!! The feelers said that He and The Lion struck a deal with Atiku to get at least 25%, that if Atiku wins, the Lion and his team would replace Wike in PDP. They said that Tinubu is brazenly supporting Magnus who's contending as the rivers governor as APC is doing. The feelers said that Lion and APC supporters are not really happy with Tinubu supporting another part in the state but wants the APC in state to support him at the presidency. Amaechi and Tonye have cut deal with AA already. Wike should just pray that Atiku doesn't win this presidency, otherwise, they are going to sack wike and his team and bring Amaechi back to the PDP. That's what the feelers are saying.

vicdom:

Yeah!! The feelers said that He and The Lion struck a deal with Atiku to get at least 25%, that if Atiku wins, the Lion and his team would replace Wike in PDP. They said that Tinubu is brazenly supporting Magnus who's contending as the rivers governor as APC is doing. The feelers said that Lion and APC supporters are not really happy with Tinubu supporting another part in the state but wants the APC in state to support him at the presidency. Amaechi and Tonye have cut deal with AA already. Wike should just pray that Atiku doesn't win this presidency, otherwise, they are going to sack wike and his team and bring Amaechi back to the PDP. That's what the feelers are saying.

If amechi cannot give buhari 25% as a minister with all the resources,then it is a wasted pact

BluntCrazeMan:
If the requirements for “A DIRECT WIN” are not satisfied, then there should be a rerun.

Meanwhile,, in the appeal, the PDP might include it in their prayers

No new prayers are brought into appeals.

garfield1:


If amechi cannot give buhari 25% as a minister with all the resources,then it is a wasted pact

If APC and some PDP (who are not loyal to wike) with PDP structures in the state, AA might get 25%. PDP structure is very strong in Rivers oooo, no go there at all.

seunmsg:


Lol. Very funny. You should know better than this. What exactly is wrong with the BVAS report? Why should the certified true copy of the BVAS report issued by INEC immediately after the election be jettisoned and not relied upon by the tribunal?

The so called second BVAS report that you guys are saying created inconsistencies and so we should jettison both and rely only on the physical machine is actually a nullity. It was manufactured a month after APC had served INEC, PDP and Adeleke its petition based on the original BVAS report. I’m sure you know that evidence cannot be manufactured during the pendency of a case.

Absolutely

garfield1:


If amechi cannot give buhari 25% as a minister with all the resources,then it is a wasted pact

He gave Buhari his highest votes ever in rivers State in 2019.

Heffalump:


Justice was not served in Osun. If you say there was over voting in some polling units, then cancel all the votes in those units so that nobody benefits from the illegal votes, since you can't categorically tell which candidates have the over voting scenario from record. The manner in which the vote deductions were applied shows clearly that the tribunal was very biased, and were looking for any avenue to reduce Adeleke's votes.

Suffice to say that, if x number of votes from the problematic polling units are canceled, then deduct x votes from each candidates already earned votes. But doing so will ensure that Adeleke will maintain the lead, so the tribunal introduced reversed mathematics to give Oyetola victory. All of them are Mad!
This judgment is dead on arrival.

You be mumu. Read the judgement and stop relying on hearsay. They removed votes from both candidates in the affected polling units.

garfield1:


If amechi cannot give buhari 25% as a minister with all the resources,then it is a wasted pact

Absolutely!
I'll prefer to have an understanding with Wike in Rivers than Amaechi. If Wike and Abe can work for Tinubu in Rivers State. Who needs Amaechi? He's not on ground jooor.

May I ask which is more important, BVAS machine or its report?Adeleke cannot ask of BVAS report since he won election. He only asked for it after APC filled their petition. Therefore, both BVAS reports are from INEC and are legitimate. Unfortunately, both reports are contradictory. When asked INEC why it produces two dissimilar reports, INEC said they were still updating
their machines when the reports were made. Mind you electoral act mandated INEC to regularly do this. INEC contended that APC asked for the report just 24 hours after the election leading to the inconsistencies while updating is ongoing. Now there's problem with the 2 BVAS reports and judge cannot cheerypick. Now how will it be resolved? The BVAS machine itself which contain the reports will be needed to decide the actual data. BVAS machines were brought to the open court and the data on it confirms that there was no over-voting except in 6 polling units. This was proved in the open court and was not countered by APC.
However, the majority ruling said he believed in the report (giving to APC) than the source where it was generated, the BVAS machines. There are 3 materials needed to confirm or refute over-voting in election according to my reading of 2022 electoral act.
They are results sheets, voters register and BVAS machines. APC didn't plead voters register in their petition, but the tribunal said it doesn't matter. I think it's not yet uhuru!

seunmsg:


Lol. Very funny. You should know better than this. What exactly is wrong with the BVAS report? Why should the certified true copy of the BVAS report issued by INEC immediately after the election be jettisoned and not relied upon by the tribunal?

The so called second BVAS report that you guys are saying created inconsistencies and so we should jettison both and rely only on the physical machine is actually a nullity. It was manufactured a month after APC had served INEC, PDP and Adeleke its petition based on the original BVAS report. I’m sure you know that evidence cannot be manufactured during the pendency of a case.

Carmal90:


He gave Buhari his highest votes ever in rivers State in 2019.

It's not about the quantity of votes, it's about the percentage of votes obtained. That's why the constitution talks about 25 percent in 24 states of the federation.

vicdom:

If APC and some PDP (who are not loyal to wike) with PDP structures in the state, AA might get 25%. PDP structure is very strong in Rivers oooo, no go there at all.

True though rivers is where he should be winning

Indispensable85:



It's not about the quantity of votes, it's about the percentage of votes obtained. That's why the constitution talks about 25 percent in 24 states of the federation.

If it is true that lion and his team has cut deal with AA.
Lion and his teams plus PDP structure will deliver more than 25% for AA

garfield1:


I know he is pro pdp and atiku but he is at times objective

Delta state don enter 1 chance

Lalar27:
This is what am saying concerning the presidential election.
Nigeria politics is like a cacus if the want you to join their group they will let you join if they don't want you you can never join no Matter how popular or influential you think you are.
Yes obi is a good candidate for the president seat but he can never beat asiwaju this election. Lai lai it will never be possible.
Peter obi is just like a church rat in front of Tinubu when it come to politics
Tinubu is more powerful Among the politicians
Tinubu will surely win the election take it or leave it

But with the help of God, maker of all and the support of the people who truly love this land bestowed upon us, PO shall win.

Carmal90:


If it is true that lion and his team has cut deal with AA.
Lion and his teams plus PDP structure will deliver more than 25% for AA

A deal with Wike plus Abe will deliver much more for Tinubu.

Indispensable85:



A deal with Wike plus Abe will deliver much more for Tinubu.

I disagree.
One thing we tend to forget is rivers is PDP state, I would have agree to what you said if they are both working for Obi

sangresan:


You be mumu. Read the judgement and stop relying on hearsay. They removed votes from both candidates in the affected polling units.

You're the greatest mumu I've ever seen. Your writing clearly shows that you're an "Urchin". Keep Basking in your euphoria, but it won't be long. Stupid idiot!!

fergie001:
See, the Tribunal Chairman based his evidence on the BVAS report which is a secomdary evidence rather than the primary evidence, the machine itself.

What about the voter's register.... Useless to Justice Kume.

One of two things will happen at the Appeal Court, either it is upturned or a retrial will be ordered but since there is no time, it should be upturned.

It is funny....just take a look at the majority judgement and tell me you wouldn't laugh.

What do you have to say about the minority judgement attached

Heffalump:


Justice was not served in Osun. If you say there was over voting in some polling units, then cancel all the votes in those units so that nobody benefits from the illegal votes, since you can't categorically tell which candidates have the over voting scenario from record. The manner in which the vote deductions were applied shows clearly that the tribunal was very biased, and were looking for any avenue to reduce Adeleke's votes.

Suffice to say that, if x number of votes from the problematic polling units are canceled, then deduct x votes from each candidates already earned votes. But doing so will ensure that Adeleke will maintain the lead, so the tribunal introduced reversed mathematics to give Oyetola victory. All of them are Mad!
This judgment is dead on arrival.

What you said here in your first paragraph was exactly what the Tribunal did so I don't where you got this your second paragraph illustration.
Trusting that you will get the CTC of the judgement & hold your peace going forward.

Housing:


What do you have to say about the minority judgement attached

Reviewing this with objectivity I still stay with the majority verdicts of the Tribunal. Of course the Voters register is crucial during or after elections but the Petitioner doesn't necessarily require it in their petition to prove the said overvoting since they are not claiming that the votes casted is more than the numbers of registered voters..Over voting can as well be established if the votes cast is more than the total accredited voters.

On what ground can over voting be said to
have occurred?

A..if the total numbers of votes cast is more than the Total registered voters

B..if the total numbers of votes cast is more than total numbers of accredited voters.

In the case of Osun, I believe the Petitioners focused more on B since they could not establish that votes cast were more than registered voters but vote cast were more than accredited voters for the said units..So Judging from the attached CTC of the minority verdict,all I see is emotions from the Judge nothing is hinged on the Law here.

Heffalump:


Justice was not served in Osun. If you say there was over voting in some polling units, then cancel all the votes in those units so that nobody benefits from the illegal votes, since you can't categorically tell which candidates have the over voting scenario from record. The manner in which the vote deductions were applied shows clearly that the tribunal was very biased, and were looking for any avenue to reduce Adeleke's votes.

Suffice to say that, if x number of votes from the problematic polling units are canceled, then deduct x votes from each candidates already earned votes. But doing so will ensure that Adeleke will maintain the lead, so the tribunal introduced reversed mathematics to give Oyetola victory. All of them are Mad!
This judgment is dead on arrival.

Thank you!

Ejimatic this is the answer to your last question.

There’s no need typing an answer to you since someone already summarized it for me.

[quote author=adee17 post=120444761]May I ask which is more important, BVAS machine or its report?Adeleke cannot ask of BVAS report since he won election. He only asked for it after APC filled their petition. Therefore, both BVAS reports are from INEC and are legitimate. Unfortunately, both reports are contradictory. When asked INEC why it produces two dissimilar reports, INEC said they were still updating
their machines when the reports were made. Mind you electoral act mandated INEC to regularly do this. INEC contended that APC asked for the report just 24 hours after the election leading to the inconsistencies while updating is ongoing. Now there's problem with the 2 BVAS reports and judge cannot cheerypick. Now how will it be resolved? The BVAS machine itself which contain the reports will be needed to decide the actual data. BVAS machines were brought to the open court and the data on it confirms that there was no over-voting except in 6 polling units. This was proved in the open court and was not countered by APC.
However, the majority ruling said he believed in the report (giving to APC) than the source where it was generated, the BVAS machines. There are 3 materials needed to confirm or refute over-voting in election according to my reading of 2022 electoral act.
They are results sheets, voters register and BVAS machines. APC didn't plead voters register in their petition, but the tribunal said it doesn't matter. I think it's not yet uhuru!






@ the bolded, the Petitioner needs not the Voters register since they are not arguing that the total number of vote cast is more than the registered voters,they were simply saying vote was more than accredited voters.