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43Ronin:
I don't think the nurses know you have gotten a phone. Go and give them the phone

why not come with your generation to come search for me so i will give you the phone to give to the nurses.

Maynman:
I keep learning from history especially jewish history. You keep learning from ignorance and delusions.
Where in the tanakh or New Testament did they use hebrews or israel.
Hope you know it was jacob name that was converted to israel.

You are empty.

your brain is already infested with false history. I told they are just impostors that only knew the half stories. Before jacob or isreal, their was isi-ra - the prince of isreal or the hebrews. Isreal was even gotten from his name. You might read all the book in the world and still be a spiritual olodo

bobestman:
your brain is already infested with false history. I told they are just impostors that only knew the half stories. Before jacob or isreal, their was isi-ra - the prince of isreal or the hebrews. Isreal was even gotten from his name. You might read all the book in the world and still be a spiritual olodo

You are empty and saying jargons purported by your deluded self.
Calling you an illiterate is an understatement.

israEL means Wrestled with EL.
El is the head patheon of the cannaite gods, he was the one that gave israEL nation as an inheritance to yahweh, which made him become the isrealite god.

You are empty!
Ode thinks knowing one of the languages of the middle east is “spiritual”.

Maynman:
You are empty and saying jargons purported by your deluded self.
Calling you an illiterate is an understatement.

israEL means Wrestled with EL.
El is the head patheon of the cannaite gods, he was the one that gave israEL nation as an inheritance to yahweh, which made him become the isrealite god.

You are empty!
Ode thinks knowing one of the languages of the middle east is “spiritual”.

lol see someone highly deluded calling another person deluded. You think i don't understand scriptures? You even mentioned yahweh? Lol. Your brain is full of jewish fables. Go cure yourself

bobestman:
lol see someone highly deluded calling another person deluded. You think i don't understand scriptures? You even mentioned yahweh? Lol. Your brain is full of jewish fables. Go cure yourself

Illiterate, what’s the meaning of the word “scriptures”?
You mean jewish writings?

Yes I mentioned yhwh, one of his tetragrammation is yahweh. Is that the israelite deity you worship?

Your brain is full of self inflicted delusions. Stop deluding yourself into meaningless mystery.

You are empty!

Maynman:
Illiterate, what’s the meaning of the word “scriptures”?
You mean jewish writings?

Yes I mentioned yhwht, one of his tetragrammation is yahweh. Is that the israelite deity you worship?

Your brain is full of self inflicted delusions. Stop deluding yourself into meaningless mystery.

You are empty!

jewish this, jewish that...all you know is jewish fables. The later j is not even up to 500yrs old and these things are far older. How did the j get in their? Answer jewish clown

43Ronin:
Do you stay close to yaba?

Was about asking the same

MaxInDHouse:
Just like all misinformed churchgoers you were never one of Jesus' disciples (Christians)

And so was Paul the Apostle who also never one of the 12 Jesus disciples...what kind spirit chased him to arabia? upon his alleged encounter of the morning star. Why didn't he show himself to the disciples before him in Jerusalem? What was Paul doing in Arabia for 3yrs after his alleged encounter with the morning star?(See. Job 38:7, Revelation 22:16)
https://www.nairaland.com/7522633/pour-out-spirit-series-part1

And still, there are so many cross-referenced biblical verses that expose how Paul contradicts Jesus. Being a former Judaism-scholar he was, boastfully tongue-twisting Jesus true and divine message... And i can still see till today every churchy people carrying the same boastfulness of Paul the Apostle, thinking they have cracked the divine message from God Almighty. Don't give me Paul's ( a former bounty-hunter, executioner) own version of the gospel oooh.... I won't accept it...And stop! Worshiping Jesus as God! for God Almighty cannot stoop so low to be borne out of a woman's farjaha nor to beget anyone. See Sura 112:3-4, He begetteth not, nor is he begotten.
And there is none like unto Him. Jesus was a mere Prophet (see matt.12:18-20) whose miraculous birth was nothing but a sign unto all men...God's prophets are also referred to as servants. And it's pretty remarkable that the servant is being called while still in his mother's womb in this Isaiah passage: God calls servants and prophets even before they are born!

And he said, “This is what your Lord said: ‘It is easy for me.
We shall make him a sign to all people, a blessing from us.’”
And so it was ordained. She conceived him. (Quran 19:16-22)

On how one becomes a child of God:

Paul says:
Rom.8
[23] and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
Gal.4
[5] to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.

Jesus says:
John.3
[3] Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is begotten from above,* he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is begotten of the flesh is flesh, and that which is begotten of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Do not marvel that I said to you, `You must be begotten from above.*

* John 3:3 and 3:7 are the author's translations. These differ from the RSV only in the expression "begotten from above" that replaces "born anew' in the RSV. "Born anew" does not represent the fullness of what Jesus is stating here, and does not correspond to the literal translation of the Greek, anothen (a()nwqen).

On the number and identity of teachers:

Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,


Jesus says:
Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.



On being justified:

Paul says:
Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.


Jesus says:
Matt.12
[37] for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.


On the God of the dead:

Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;


On the time of the coming of the Lord:

Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.


Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.

sonmvayina:
How many people listen to them/you..?

In our concluded assembly 92 persons got baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses just in one circuit. So it's unbelievers like you that's left behind millions are studying the Bible with us throughout the world!

You quoted verses out of context instead of asking questions to know what you missed.
Paul was led to the Apostles after he met Jesus {Act 9:27} and several times when issues arises himself and Barnabas went to the apostles in Jerusalem! Act 15:2

So Paul was narrating another event which he doesn't feel the need to go to the apostles!

MrCodeSolo:
And so was Paul the Apostle who also never one of the 12 Jesus disciples...what kind spirit chased him to arabia? upon his alleged encounter of the morning star. Why didn't he show himself to the disciples before him in Jerusalem? What was Paul doing in Arabia for 3yrs after his alleged encounter with the morning star?(See. Job 38:7, Revelation 22:16)
https://www.nairaland.com/7522633/pour-out-spirit-series-part1

And still, there are so many cross-referenced biblical verses that exposes how Paul contradicts Jesus. Being a former Judaism-scholar he was, boastfully tongue-twisted Jesus true and divine message... And i can still see till today every churchy people carrying the same boastfulness of Paul the Apostle, thinking they have cracked the divine message from God Almighty. Don't give me Paul's ( a former bounty-hunter, executioner) own version of the gospel oooh.... I won't accept it...Stop! Worshiping Jesus as God! for God Almighty cannot stoop so low to be borne out of a woman's farjaha nor to begot anyone. See Sura 112:3-4, He begetteth not, nor is he begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.

On how one becomes a child of God:

Paul says:
Rom.8
[23] and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
Gal.4
[5] to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.

Jesus says:
John.3
[3] Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is begotten from above,* he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is begotten of the flesh is flesh, and that which is begotten of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Do not marvel that I said to you, `You must be begotten from above.*

* John 3:3 and 3:7 are the author's translations. These differ from the RSV only in the expression "begotten from above" that replaces "born anew' in the RSV. "Born anew" does not represent the fullness of what Jesus is stating here, and does not correspond to the literal translation of the Greek, anothen (a()nwqen).

On the number and identity of teachers:

Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,


Jesus says:
Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.



On being justified:

Paul says:
Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.


Jesus says:
Matt.12
[37] for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.


On the God of the dead:

Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;


On the time of the coming of the Lord:

Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.


Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.

MaxInDHouse:
You quoted verses out of context instead of asking questions to know what you missed.
Paul was led to the Apostles after he met Jesus {Act 9:27} and several times when issues arises himself and Barnabas went to the apostles in Jerusalem! Act 15:2

So Paul was narrating another event which he doesn't feel the need to go to the apostles!

how did i quote out of context when i was clearly stating and referring to what the Op posted to be the subject of the whole discussions here...and you making mentions with this; "Just like all misinformed churchgoers you were never one of Jesus' disciples (Christians)"
So I drew your attention and summed up my own reasons for leaving a (Paul the Apostle) brain-washer's faith of outright confusion.

a religious following founded on lies and just like that; a bright shinning light struck Paul down with madness and confusion that made him knew no other place to turn to but headed to Arabia' to do what exactly? part 2 of this thread below is on the way soon as i would love to know you bible people thoughts on it.
https://www.nairaland.com/7522633/pour-out-spirit-series-part1

MrCodeSolo:
a religious following founded on lies and just like that; a bright shinning light struck Paul down with madness and confusion that made him knew no other place to turn to but headed to Arabia' to do what exactly? part 2 of this thread below is on the way soon as i would love to know you bible people thoughts on it.
https://www.nairaland.com/7522633/pour-out-spirit-series-part1

Some critics may quote a scripture out of context and give you a wrong application but you need to discuss with the real Christians first to hear from both side before running to conclusion.
Jesus met Paul on the road to Damascus and attacked him but later told him to go and meet the disciples to regain his sight and get further information on how to carry on with his job which was fighting for pure worship! Act 9:1-15

He later became a missionary and that's why he travelled to many places preaching, teaching and establishing congregations in the name of Christ Jesus.

The letters he wrote is to refresh the minds of members of the different congregations he formed in those places because Jesus made Paul their Apostle:

But the Lord said to (Ananias): “Go! because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel". Act 9:15

As they were ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Act 13:2

For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth. 1Timothy 2:7

Now I speak to you who are people of the nations. Seeing that I am an apostle to the nations, I glorify my ministry. Romans 11:13

If you want to discuss this just find JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES we will be glad to study the Bible with you.

May you have PEACE!

bobestman:
jewish this, jewish that...all you know is jewish fables. The later j is not even up to 500yrs old and these things are far older. How did the j get in their? Answer jewish clown

The letter “j” is more than 500 years old and besides the letter “j” is not an hebrew alphabet.
יהודי

You are empty!

Maynman:
The letter “j” is more than 500 years old and besides the letter “j” is not an hebrew alphabet.
יהודי

You are empty!

it is not. From 1524 till now is not up to 500. So stop lying. It is not an hebrew alphabet good, why then do wannabe hebrews who claim to be older aka jews - rev 3:3,9 use it as in jews, judaism? Na you full abi? Jewish clown with brain infested with jewish fables. What you know are the half stories

bobestman:
it is not. From 1524 till now is not up to 500. So stop lying. It is not an hebrew alphabet good, why then do wannabe hebrews who claim to be older aka jews - rev 3:3,9 use it as in jews, judaism? Na you full abi? Jewish clown with brain infested with jewish fables. What you know are the half stories

Which history did you read that said it was 1524? The corrupted history you’ve been shouting? Hope it’s not from google?
Please send link to where you saw “1524”

The jews don’t speak English or latin, they don’t use “j”.
Jew-יהודי
You’re a delusional liar!

Seems a lot of people here don't really know what's up.
I can tell you that Christianity is just a Jewish Sect built on rebranded ideas featured in Judaism.

The books you call the Old Testament undergone a series of changes in both interpretation and context.
If I want to write a article on this it will take over 20pages. So let me drop some important bullet points.

*Qumran Community (check this out)
*The 4 types of Interpretation Of Scripture during the Apostolic era:
1.Literalist
2.Midrashic
3.Pesher
4.Allegorical

*The wide-diversity of Christianity in the first century A.D (Check this out)
At least four rival Christian factions had a struggle until the later (proto-orthodox) emerged as victor's as the other factions were declared heretical and their (proto-orthodox a.k.a Pauline Christianity) writings became part of your modern New Testament.
1.Marcionites
2.Ebionites
3.Gnostics
4.Proto-Orthodox

Maynman:
Which history did you read that said it was 1524? The corrupted history you’ve been shouting? Hope it’s not from google?
Please send link to where you saw “1524”

The jews don’t speak English or latin, they don’t use “j”.
Jew-יהודי
You’re a delusional liar!

even the poster know. Stop reading fake history. Will talk about the evils of judaism and why they are impostor hebrews when free

bobestman:
even the poster know. Stop reading fake history. Will talk about the evils of judaism and why they are impostor hebrews when free

Judaism from Yahwism.

You are empty!

Maynman:
Judaism from Yahwism.

You are empty!

lol yahwism. Keep confusing yourself. They are still impostors forming hebrews

bobestman:
lol yahwism. Keep confusing yourself. They are still impostors forming hebrews

Lol illiteracy, Keep confusing yourself with ignorance.
Hebrew is a language. The israelites are cannanites.

Maynman:
Which history did you read that said it was 1524? The corrupted history you’ve been shouting? Hope it’s not from google?
Please send link to where you saw “1524”

The jews don’t speak English or latin, they don’t use “j”.
Jew-יהודי
You’re a delusional liar!

you too like argument. It's like oxygen to you

Trollronaldo:
you too like argument. It's like oxygen to you

Who is this?

Maynman:
Lol illiteracy, Keep confusing yourself with ignorance.
Hebrew is a language. The israelites are cannanites.

fool that is what they told you. It is both and that you guys know is paleo. It depends on how you understand it. It is the language of the hebrews just like english. They are one ppl with different clans. Though one language with different dialect. Just like igbo, yoruba, bantus etc are one ppl but their language differ. In the begining it was one pure language befor babel happened as they wrote it. Full man that is full of jewish fables

bobestman:
fool that is what they told you. It is both and that you guys know is paleo. It depends on how you understand it. It is the language of the hebrews just like english. They are one ppl with different clans. Though one language with different dialect. Just like igbo, yoruba, bantus etc are one ppl but their language differ. In the begining it was one pure language befor babel happened as they wrote it. Full man that is full of jewish fables

Rubbish, babel, the same one inside jewish books?

You are empty.

Maynman:
Rubbish, babel, the same one inside jewish books?

You are empty.

fool it is a hebrew book written by hebrew scribes before anyting called jewish came to existence

bobestman:
fool it is a hebrew book written by hebrew scribes before anyting called jewish came to existence

Idiot, Hebrew is a language.
The books you have in the tanakh are jewish books that were gotten from different sources.

Maynman:
Idiot, Hebrew is a language.
The books you have in the tanakh are jewish books that were gotten from different sources.

Fool your tanak and other sources are just half truth put together to control fools like you.

bobestman:
Fool your tanak and other sources are just half truth put together to control fools like you.

Illiterate it’s tanakh also called jewish bible, idiot is it not from that half truth you are quoting “babel”?

You’re empty!

Maynman:
Illiterate it’s tanakh also called jewish bible, idiot is it not from that half truth you are quoting “babel”?

You’re empty!

fool your tanakh or whatever is half truth. The true book has codes, only a certain ppl can unseal and tell you the truth at a certain time. You are full but with poo. All your books are half truth jewish clone

bobestman:
fool your tanakh or whatever is half truth. The true book has codes, only a certain ppl can unseal and tell you the truth at a certain time. You are full but with poo. All your books are half truth jewish clone

Nincompop, the tanakh are collection of books from various sources.
The tanakh we have now is a canon from the masoteric family.
Idiot, They are folklore, the one you were quoting “babel”.


You are empty!

Maynman:
Nincompop, the tanakh are collection of books from various sources.
The tanakh we have now is a canon from the masoteric family.
They are folklore, the one you were quoting “babel”.


You are empty!

jewish clone i know these things more than you and what is beyond them. You are just teaching air. You are full of jewish poo